Obama's record trickle down economics is not working.

[LordBrownTrout]

You're the one who made this about Bush, not me. You're the one complaining that the poverty rate is the highest it's been since 1965. Well no president has pushed more people into poverty than Bush since that time, so that's the source of your complaint.

Obama now owns that record of pushing more people into poverty.

Don't be stupid, just because the rate is higher now doesn't mean Obama added more. Obama's policies have added about one percentage point to the Poverty rate while Bush's policies added about 2.5 percentage points.

I believe its pretty well documented that Obama is the poverty president. We're at 50 year record levels.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Obama now owns that record of pushing more people into poverty.

Don't be stupid, just because the rate is higher now doesn't mean Obama added more. Obama's policies have added about one percentage point to the Poverty rate while Bush's policies added about 2.5 percentage points.

I believe its pretty well documented that Obama is the poverty president. We're at 50 year record levels.

Noooooooooooooooo!!!.........NooooooOOOooooOOOOoooooo!!!!!!!
It is not Obama...It is Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuusssshhhhh!!!!

 

[Faun]

You're the one who made this about Bush, not me. You're the one complaining that the poverty rate is the highest it's been since 1965. Well no president has pushed more people into poverty than Bush since that time, so that's the source of your complaint.

No that would be you who bought Bush into this. We all know Obama has been dealt a bad hand yada, yada, yada. The facts show Obama dismal performance, and the only thing you can say to counter that is Boooooosh.

The fact is -- Bush was dealt a bad hand but nobody wants to talk about how he got us out of a recession and prevented us from falling into a Depression after 9/11

For those of you who care (excludes dimocrap morons) the S&P P/E ratio was higher when Bush took Office than it was the day before Black Monday of 1929

For those of you who have an IQ (excludes dimocrap morons) The NASDAQ crash was the worst market crash in history...... By a WIDE margin.

The DJIA crash of 1929 was caused when it lost 12% of its value. Wowee-zowee, batfink.

NASDAQ lost 78% of its value under the rapist, Clinton.

Oh, the 'DAQ isn't as big as the DJIA?

Wanna bet?

The 'Daq includes three of the top five BIGGEST COMPANIES ON EARTH.....

Apple, Microsoft, Google.....

Then there was the attacks on 9/11.... In large part allowed to happen because the rapist, Clinton, gutted our CIA, invoked the "Torricelli Principle" (look it up) and sent Jamie Gore-Lick (why isn't that **** rotting in a prison cell?) around to erect the "Wall" that prevented the CIA and Military Intelligence (Able Danger, look it up) from telling the FBI that, "Houston, we have a problem"

But Bush brought us back from all that. Within five years of him taking Office, our economy was flat-out SCREAMING.

Had it not been for his reluctance to becalled a 'racist' by ever race-baiting dimocrap scumbag on The Hill and had it not been for the WORST FED CHAIRMAN EVER -- Greenspawn (husband of Andrea Mitchell), things may have been different.

But that's not the problem.

The problem is this...... A LOT of presidents are handed a shitty situation when they take Office. A LOT.

Ronald Reagan, George W Bush, and barack insane obama.....

Reagan and Bush did magnificent jobs of fixing things. Reagan even defeated the most evil empire, the most murdering scum that ever existed without firing a shot... Much to my disappointment.... I can talk about that later.

Bush brought us back from the brink.... A terrible economy and the worst attack on American Soil in History...

the Stuttering Clusterfuck and his dumber-than-dirt supporters...?

All they can do is blame Bush. And Reagan. And the Cookie Monster. And -- Whatever.

You know what folks..... If you blamed others at your job as much as you blame others in politics, you'd get fired in a heart beat.

obama is an incompetent douchebag. For you to defend him only makes you look stupid.

This is a great example for why Conservatives shouldn't be allowed near numbers -- they fuck 'em up every time....

The DJIA fell from 381 to 41. That's an 89% loss. How the fuck did you figure 381 to 41 is only a 12% loss?? What kind of drugs are you on? And how do you figure NASDAQ lost 78% under Clinton? It was 700 when Clinton became president. It's all time low after the dot com crash and 9.11 was 1100. That's still a 57% gain.

 

[Faun]

Obama now owns that record of pushing more people into poverty.

Don't be stupid, just because the rate is higher now doesn't mean Obama added more. Obama's policies have added about one percentage point to the Poverty rate while Bush's policies added about 2.5 percentage points.

I believe its pretty well documented that Obama is the poverty president. We're at 50 year record levels.

That's some pretty demented logic there ... you must be a Conservative. Let's say, for argument's sake, the most cash you ever had in your wallet was $99 ... I come along and give you $1... your logic credits me (and not the $99 you were already carrying) for the reason you've now got more cash in your wallet than ever before.

 

[Erand7899]

This conversation shows just how badly the GOP mindset is screwed. The same people ranting about "big government regulations" creating unemployment, income inequality and making rich people richer are also complaining about "big government regulations" hurting the economy and that government shouldn't have any say in what rich people do?

What do you Republicans want? If the government deregulates everything, meaning no more big government regulations or laws, then Wall Street runs amok and creates massive income inequality. If big government gets involved to fix the massive inequality created by deregulation and financial crimes, you people scream that the big government is engaging in "Socialist wealth redistribution".

Get a fucking clue.

Here's the clue, Dumbass. There is a wide range of options between over regulation that strangles the economy, and complete deregulation that also hurts the economy. It is not all or nothing.

Here's another clue for you. Big business is best held in check by competition, and over regulation severely hampers new and innovative business startups. It is the little guy that is hurt the most by over regulation. Today, most small businesses do not know if they are in compliance with all government regulations, and they do not have the resources to find out. They will find out when some bureaucrat demands that they pay a huge fine.

If you want a healthy middle class, you need to figure out what makes the middle class healthy. Regulations and red tape are not conducive to a healthy middle class.

 

[Avorysuds]

Despite $trillions in bail outs...$85,000,000,000 PER MONTH in bond buying schemes...$100's millions in outright corporate gifting, several $billion is "shovel ready" projects....

The income gap in America has grown and continues to grow at a pace not seen before in modern history.

Again - from this President we get lip service and pandering to low information supporters...but in the end..it is worse.

Hope and Change.

I love it when those who fight to prevent any tax increase on the wealthy, fight against increasing the minimum wage, fight healthcare, fight education funding

Then gloat that the income gap has increased

That's because we get all of these things. increased taxes, higher min wage, more Government HC/Education and so on.... Then things get worse. Trickle down Government economics does not work because if they spend 1 trillion dollars only a few billion gets to their target yest that trillion either ends up as debt or in taken from everyone.


But that's what's wrong with you religious faith based economic nutters.

 

[Avorysuds]

I am with you

Do you support more federal funding for programs that help working Americans and the poor?

I do....so does the President

You just do not get it. You live in a fantasy world where reality is fantasy and fantasy is reality. The president doesnt give a fuck about the poor. He cares abotu seeing his ideology come to fruition. He believes, much like you do, that MORE government is the answer. That more corporatism is the answer. As long as government grows, everythimng is going splendid.

Meanwhile, in reality, where the rest of us live, all of the redistribution schemes, the programs for the "poor", amount to nothing more than creatign the very climate that he, and folks like you, clamor over it being fixed by these very actions.

It really could be classified as a mental disorder. But nothing will stop the true believer from believing. No amount of observation to will make you question the belief.

Come on....lets hear your magical solutions

Massive wealth and income inequality

Trickle down does not work.....what is the solution in a Libertarian world?

<I already know.....fuck em>

Seriously, what is Government spending other than trickle down economics? The difference is the Government does not need to turn a profit, thus they can do things that don't work near indefinitely.

The real problem here is YOU have got your way, several times.... And despite not working you say "fuck em" and continue to destroy peoples lives by the hundreds of millions. Why, because you care about getting your way far more than being right.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

This conversation shows just how badly the GOP mindset is screwed. The same people ranting about "big government regulations" creating unemployment, income inequality and making rich people richer are also complaining about "big government regulations" hurting the economy and that government shouldn't have any say in what rich people do?

What do you Republicans want? If the government deregulates everything, meaning no more big government regulations or laws, then Wall Street runs amok and creates massive income inequality. If big government gets involved to fix the massive inequality created by deregulation and financial crimes, you people scream that the big government is engaging in "Socialist wealth redistribution".

Get a fucking clue.

Here's the clue, Dumbass. There is a wide range of options between over regulation that strangles the economy, and complete deregulation that also hurts the economy. It is not all or nothing.

Here's another clue for you. Big business is best held in check by competition, and over regulation severely hampers new and innovative business startups. It is the little guy that is hurt the most by over regulation. Today, most small businesses do not know if they are in compliance with all government regulations, and they do not have the resources to find out. They will find out when some bureaucrat demands that they pay a huge fine.

If you want a healthy middle class, you need to figure out what makes the middle class healthy. Regulations and red tape are not conducive to a healthy middle class.

Liberals, particularity progressive liberals will never-ever admit to themselves that poor people need a hand up, not a hand out.
Opportunity is the best medicine there is, and ever will be to lower poverty.
When a person falls down - what do they need? If anything, they just need someone to help them stand back up again.
For a liberal when someone falls...they given them a pillow, a few blankets and a bed.