Occupy Wall Street: The Movement Grows

[Preius]

There has been a VERY - VERY - VERY successful protest movement against Wall Street interest for well over a year now.
It is called - The Tea Party.

You make an interesting point. It would appear that OWS (Occupy Wall Street), and the Tea Party are on the same wave link. The Tea Party takes a similar message to the ultra right that OWS takes to the left, moderate Republicans, and hopefully more and more conservatives. Real question is are both movements really 'grass roots?' Some, (both parties), are already trying to drive a wedge between OWS and the Tea Party. Regardless, I believe both will come together at some point. I mean when it comes down to it who is REALLY gives a damn about the upper 1% besides the upper 1%? What have the upper 1% done for you lately? Outsourced some of our better jobs.

Americans want solutions, they don't care about party ideology.

Permit me to point out an example from history about Thomas Jefferson. Jefferson believed and campaigned for president based upon a weak Federal Government. Then France offered to sell us the Louisiana purchase for peanuts. Jefferson believed in manifest destiny, took the deal, and let his principles of small government go. Had Jefferson not done this deal, we may never have had the States from Louisana to Minnesota to Montanna. The United States was founded on compromise, all Americans want is the best solution we can get regardless of the source. Most of us are content to have a secure job, a home, food on the table, some vacation, and the promise of a better tomorrow if we work hard. We really don't give a damn what you call it - conservative, liberal, capitalist, socialist, communist or libertarian. The question is who can deliver to the American working class, middle class, upper-middle class, and even some upper class. Wall Street has made the mistake of ignoring us, the 99%. Now you have the OWS and the Tea Party. 2012 will be an historic election, and we get to be here to watch and participate! It could be good news for all of us 99%ers

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[Si modo]

There has been a VERY - VERY - VERY successful protest movement against Wall Street interest for well over a year now.
It is called - The Tea Party.

You make an interesting point. It would appear that OWS (Occupy Wall Street), and the Tea Party are on the same wave link. The Tea Party takes a similar message to the ultra right that OWS takes to the left, moderate Republicans, and hopefully more and more conservatives. Real question is are both movements really 'grass roots?' Some, (both parties), are already trying to drive a wedge between OWS and the Tea Party. Regardless, I believe both will come together at some point. I mean when it comes down to it who is REALLY gives a damn about the upper 1% besides the upper 1%? What have the upper 1% done for you lately? Outsourced some of our better jobs.

Americans want solutions, they don't care about party ideology.

Permit me to point out an example from history about Thomas Jefferson. Jefferson believed and campaigned for president based upon a weak Federal Government. Then France offered to sell us the Louisiana purchase for peanuts. Jefferson believed in manifest destiny, took the deal, and let his principles of small government go. Had Jefferson not done this deal, we may never have had the States from Louisana to Minnesota to Montanna. The United States was founded on compromise, all Americans want is the best solution we can get regardless of the source. Most of us are content to have a secure job, a home, food on the table, some vacation, and the promise of a better tomorrow if we work hard. We really don't give a damn what you call it - conservative, liberal, capitalist, socialist, communist or libertarian. The question is who can deliver to the American working class, middle class, upper-middle class, and even some upper class. Wall Street has made the mistake of ignoring us, the 99%. Now you have the OWS and the Tea Party. 2012 will be an historic election, and we get to be here to watch and participate! It could be good news for all of us 99%ers

​

A fundamental difference between the two movements is that the Tea Party is a proponent of personal accountability. That doesn't seen like it would be easily reconcilable.

 

[Stephanie]

There has been a VERY - VERY - VERY successful protest movement against Wall Street interest for well over a year now.
It is called - The Tea Party.

You make an interesting point. It would appear that OWS (Occupy Wall Street), and the Tea Party are on the same wave link. The Tea Party takes a similar message to the ultra right that OWS takes to the left, moderate Republicans, and hopefully more and more conservatives. Real question is are both movements really 'grass roots?' Some, (both parties), are already trying to drive a wedge between OWS and the Tea Party. Regardless, I believe both will come together at some point. I mean when it comes down to it who is REALLY gives a damn about the upper 1% besides the upper 1%? What have the upper 1% done for you lately? Outsourced some of our better jobs.

Americans want solutions, they don't care about party ideology.

Permit me to point out an example from history about Thomas Jefferson. Jefferson believed and campaigned for president based upon a weak Federal Government. Then France offered to sell us the Louisiana purchase for peanuts. Jefferson believed in manifest destiny, took the deal, and let his principles of small government go. Had Jefferson not done this deal, we may never have had the States from Louisana to Minnesota to Montanna. The United States was founded on compromise, all Americans want is the best solution we can get regardless of the source. Most of us are content to have a secure job, a home, food on the table, some vacation, and the promise of a better tomorrow if we work hard. We really don't give a damn what you call it - conservative, liberal, capitalist, socialist, communist or libertarian. The question is who can deliver to the American working class, middle class, upper-middle class, and even some upper class. Wall Street has made the mistake of ignoring us, the 99%. Now you have the OWS and the Tea Party. 2012 will be an historic election, and we get to be here to watch and participate! It could be good news for all of us 99%ers

​

Dream on...The Tea Party is NOTHING like this movement and WILL NEVER come join hands them. good gawd..
Calling yourselves the 99%ers is enough to Turn people off and go, huh??? and just have a good damn laugh really

 

[Dr Grump]

Dream on...The Tea Party is NOTHING like this movement and WILL NEVER come join hands them. good gawd..
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We know...the teabaggers aren't fit to wipe their butts....

 

[Stephanie]

Dream on...The Tea Party is NOTHING like this movement and WILL NEVER come join hands them. good gawd..
:

We know...the teabaggers aren't fit to wipe their butts....

who would want too..from seeing them taking a shit on police cars and probably in their own camp sites....icky icky icky

 

[Dragon]

Dream on...The Tea Party is NOTHING like this movement and WILL NEVER come join hands them. good gawd..

It's already happening.

 

[Stephanie]

Dream on...The Tea Party is NOTHING like this movement and WILL NEVER come join hands them. good gawd..

It's already happening.

yeah right, probably your alls MADE UP Tea Party because you certainly can't do anything RIGHT on your alls own. but the people I know from the Tea Party would never associate themselves with this idiotic movement (Occupying). The Tea Party believe in doing things in lawful manner..This movement is FAR FROM THAT.
so like I said, DREAM ON.

 

[Dragon]

yeah right, probably your alls MADE UP Tea Party

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tp-eapYpL8c]Occupy Wallstreet Update! The Marines are Coming to PROTECT the Protesters - YouTube[/ame]

"I'm a Tea Party patriot, and I do not agree with all of the politics of these young people, but I agree with and I support the fact that Wall Street has way too much influence on Washington DC and we all need to stand together against this corruption."

Quite a few of the protesters describe themselves as Tea Party people. My guess is that most of them are members of the original TP before it was co-opted by Koch money, Fox News, and the GOP.

 

[Stephanie]

yeah right, probably your alls MADE UP Tea Party

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tp-eapYpL8c]Occupy Wallstreet Update! The Marines are Coming to PROTECT the Protesters - YouTube[/ame]

"I'm a Tea Party patriot, and I do not agree with all of the politics of these young people, but I agree with and I support the fact that Wall Street has way too much influence on Washington DC and we all need to stand together against this corruption."

Quite a few of the protesters describe themselves as Tea Party people. My guess is that most of them are members of the original TP before it was co-opted by Koch money, Fox News, and the GOP.

well good for you...you have ONE video and ANYONE can say they are FROM the Tea Party..so play your alls games..you Progressive-Commies don't mind lying to achieve your agenda..that is a known fact..
and no one cares about your...guesses..

 

[Dragon]

All I can tell you is that I'm in contact with a number of people who are involved in these protests in several cities, and eyewitness accounts show a fair amount of crossover. The majority of participants aren't also TP, but many are.

The Tea Party was originally protesting the same essential issue as OWS, namely excessive corporate influence on the government. That's not a left-right issue, it's a top-bottom issue, the 1% vs. the 99% as the OWS people are putting it.

 

[Preius]

There has been a VERY - VERY - VERY successful protest movement against Wall Street interest for well over a year now.
It is called - The Tea Party.

You make an interesting point. It would appear that OWS (Occupy Wall Street), and the Tea Party are on the same wave link. The Tea Party takes a similar message to the ultra right that OWS takes to the left, moderate Republicans, and hopefully more and more conservatives. Real question is are both movements really 'grass roots?' Some, (both parties), are already trying to drive a wedge between OWS and the Tea Party. Regardless, I believe both will come together at some point. I mean when it comes down to it who is REALLY gives a damn about the upper 1% besides the upper 1%? What have the upper 1% done for you lately? Outsourced some of our better jobs.

Americans want solutions, they don't care about party ideology.

Permit me to point out an example from history about Thomas Jefferson. Jefferson believed and campaigned for president based upon a weak Federal Government. Then France offered to sell us the Louisiana purchase for peanuts. Jefferson believed in manifest destiny, took the deal, and let his principles of small government go. Had Jefferson not done this deal, we may never have had the States from Louisana to Minnesota to Montanna. The United States was founded on compromise, all Americans want is the best solution we can get regardless of the source. Most of us are content to have a secure job, a home, food on the table, some vacation, and the promise of a better tomorrow if we work hard. We really don't give a damn what you call it - conservative, liberal, capitalist, socialist, communist or libertarian. The question is who can deliver to the American working class, middle class, upper-middle class, and even some upper class. Wall Street has made the mistake of ignoring us, the 99%. Now you have the OWS and the Tea Party. 2012 will be an historic election, and we get to be here to watch and participate! It could be good news for all of us 99%ers

​

A fundamental difference between the two movements is that the Tea Party is a proponent of personal accountability. That doesn't seen like it would be easily reconcilable.

I am a proponent of personal accountability and responsibility. I have not seen one word from the OWS, (Occupy Wall Street) folks on this point. Frankly, I can not think of any group who has ignored taking responsibility for their actions than Wall Street bankers. They are morally corrupt, and many should be in prison.

 

[Stephanie]

All I can tell you is that I'm in contact with a number of people who are involved in these protests in several cities, and eyewitness accounts show a fair amount of crossover. The majority of participants aren't also TP, but many are.

The Tea Party was originally protesting the same essential issue as OWS, namely excessive corporate influence on the government. That's not a left-right issue, it's a top-bottom issue, the 1% vs. the 99% as the OWS people are putting it.

Lies..That was not and is not the Tea Party..

 

[Dragon]

Lies..That was not and is not the Tea Party..

Of course it was. The original Tea Party was a libertarian movement protesting a government that served the fat cats instead of the people, specifically in regard to the TARP program, which OWS also talks about ("The banks got bailed out, we got sold out"). That original message is wholly in common with OWS.

 

[Si modo]

You make an interesting point. It would appear that OWS (Occupy Wall Street), and the Tea Party are on the same wave link. The Tea Party takes a similar message to the ultra right that OWS takes to the left, moderate Republicans, and hopefully more and more conservatives. Real question is are both movements really 'grass roots?' Some, (both parties), are already trying to drive a wedge between OWS and the Tea Party. Regardless, I believe both will come together at some point. I mean when it comes down to it who is REALLY gives a damn about the upper 1% besides the upper 1%? What have the upper 1% done for you lately? Outsourced some of our better jobs.

Americans want solutions, they don't care about party ideology.

Permit me to point out an example from history about Thomas Jefferson. Jefferson believed and campaigned for president based upon a weak Federal Government. Then France offered to sell us the Louisiana purchase for peanuts. Jefferson believed in manifest destiny, took the deal, and let his principles of small government go. Had Jefferson not done this deal, we may never have had the States from Louisana to Minnesota to Montanna. The United States was founded on compromise, all Americans want is the best solution we can get regardless of the source. Most of us are content to have a secure job, a home, food on the table, some vacation, and the promise of a better tomorrow if we work hard. We really don't give a damn what you call it - conservative, liberal, capitalist, socialist, communist or libertarian. The question is who can deliver to the American working class, middle class, upper-middle class, and even some upper class. Wall Street has made the mistake of ignoring us, the 99%. Now you have the OWS and the Tea Party. 2012 will be an historic election, and we get to be here to watch and participate! It could be good news for all of us 99%ers

​

A fundamental difference between the two movements is that the Tea Party is a proponent of personal accountability. That doesn't seen like it would be easily reconcilable.

I am a proponent of personal accountability and responsibility. I have not seen one word from the OWS, (Occupy Wall Street) folks on this point. Frankly, I can not think of any group who has ignored taking responsibility for their actions than Wall Street bankers. They are morally corrupt, and many should be in prison.

One here - 'FactFinder' - does not think those who have defaulted on their mortgages should have to lose 'their' homes.

Another agreed - that poster's name was 'LoneLaughter'. Those were just the two posters I can recall who had that belief. There were others.

They claimed to be part of OWS.

Thinking that people should not have to pay back something they borrowed does not reflect any appreciation for personal accountability.

 

[boedicca]

All I can tell you is that I'm in contact with a number of people who are involved in these protests in several cities, and eyewitness accounts show a fair amount of crossover. The majority of participants aren't also TP, but many are.

The Tea Party was originally protesting the same essential issue as OWS, namely excessive corporate influence on the government. That's not a left-right issue, it's a top-bottom issue, the 1% vs. the 99% as the OWS people are putting it.

Lies..That was not and is not the Tea Party..

Correct. The two issues which spurred the Tea Party were the Stimulus package (cf. Rick Santelli's "mortgage bailout" rant) and ObamaCare. The Tea Party is against Big Government, which does by definition include funneling taxpayer money to corporate interests - but is not the a protest against business.

 

[Dragon]

Correct. The two issues which spurred the Tea Party were the Stimulus package (cf. Rick Santelli's "mortgage bailout" rant) and ObamaCare.

No, because the Tea Party started before either of those existed, and even before Obama took office.

 

[boedicca]

Correct. The two issues which spurred the Tea Party were the Stimulus package (cf. Rick Santelli's "mortgage bailout" rant) and ObamaCare.

No, because the Tea Party started before either of those existed, and even before Obama took office.

No, it didn't.

It started in response to the Porkulus Bill in January 2009, unless you are referring the original Boston Tea Party.

 

[Dragon]

It started in response to the Porkulus Bill in January 2009, unless you are referring the original Boston Tea Party.

I'm referring to the original Tea Party movement that was heavy with Ron Paul supporters and began in December 2007.

 

[boedicca]

It started in response to the Porkulus Bill in January 2009, unless you are referring the original Boston Tea Party.

I'm referring to the original Tea Party movement that was heavy with Ron Paul supporters and began in December 2007.

That's not the original Tea Party movement. That a movement for Ron Paul supporters...some of whom now have participate in the Tea Party.

You pathetic Lefties only fool yourselves with your sad attempts to rewrite a history in which the Tea Party is not a response to Obamanomics.

 

[Dragon]

That's not the original Tea Party movement. That a movement for Ron Paul supporters...some of whom now have participate in the Tea Party.

No, it's the original Tea Party movement, before it was moved in on by the Koch brothers, the GOP, and Fox News. It called itself the Tea Party movement, and the same movement continued into the one that protested against the stimulus bill. There were not two separate movements, although the influx of money and organization did change it.