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Predicting the numbers of deaths in an out of control epidemic by Aug. is about as accurate as predicting the Dow Jones Average at end of Aug.March 24, 2020 - United States - 54,916
March 25, 2020 - United States - 68,489 - 24.7% increase
March 26, 2020 - United States - 85,594 - 24.97% increase
March 27, 2020 - United States - 104,256 - 21.8% increase
March 28, 2020 - United States - 123,776 - 18.7% increase
March 29, 2020 - United States - 142,224 - 14.9% increase
March 30, 2020 - United States - 164,266 - 15.5% increase
March 31, 2020 - United States - 188,578 - 14.8% increase
April 1, 2020 - United States - 215,300 - 14.2% increase
April 2, 2020 - United States - 245,193 - 13.9% increase
April 3, 2020 - United States - 277,475 - 13.2% increase
April 4, 2020 - United States - 311,635 - 12.3% increase
April 5, 2020 - United States - 336,830 - 8.1% increase
April 6, 2020 - United States - 367,629 - 9.1% increase
April 7, 2020 - United States - 400,540 - 9.0% increase
April 8, 2020 - United States - 435,160 - 8.6% increase
April 9, 2020 - United States - 468,895 - 7.8% increase
April 10, 2020 - United States - 502,876 - 7.3% increase
If you show the actual differential, you'll see the actual number staying pretty steady. As a percentage of the whole (and keep in mind these are total cases.....we have about 45,000 resolved cases) they will decrease because the whole is getting larger.
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At one point, before I was making the chart, you were having an increasing rate of increase per day, despite the total becoming larger every day. The nightmare situation was staying at 27% increase per day and having 100 million people infected by April 25. Now that the rate has dropped below 8%, were looking at maybe 3 million infections in a month, but that's if we stay around 8% a day. Hopefully that will be cut further.
If the prediction is for 60,000 deaths by August, then at the current death rate, that will mean about 1,560,000 confirmed infections by August. That would suggest that were about 1/3 of the way through this first wave. Of course, these are all just projections based on current numbers.
Yes.
If we have an out of control epidemic, we should be warry.
Fortunately all we are dealing with the Corona. The only issue there is the panic created by our fearless know-nothings.
Yes.
If we have an out of control epidemic, we should be warry.
Fortunately all we are dealing with the Corona. The only issue there is the panic created by our fearless know-nothings.
Not just panic, problem are also accurate counts for infected and for causes of deaths.
My first neighbor works at the hospital and she sees problems with tests and results they're getting. So I wrote down few terms and notes, and try to make sense from what she said and what I found out. Well, she's not top specialist, but she works with them, and to me she damn right looks like she knows what she's talking about. Since I am in Michigan, I hope I won't be arrested for socializing with neighbors.
To test for corona virus, they're using something called RT-PCR, you can read about it here. What's wrong with the test is that is not looking for corona virus directly, but for presence of certain strain of RNA, and since it's believed that corona virus is an RNA virus, there is certain RNA wrapped in proteins. Where it goes from there... they are assuming that if that RNA can be detected, than patient must have corona virus. It's assumption, not certainty, and that's fallacy, because there is nothing to prove that RNA that show positive test did not come from some other source, like bacteria, fungi, or patient's other cells.
That's why there is big question about legitimacy of confirmed cases of corona virus. While it's true that RNA could've come from corona virus, it could have come from tons of other sources unrelated to corona virus. Now, how to actually prove someone has corona virus for real, what would be proper procedure? Well, that something called purification... way I understood it is, they need to find exact RNA protein structure of corona virus, purify it, then extract RNA from the structure that match original RNA found in Wuhan, and only if those are the match, than person has corona virus.
Since they're not doing that, there is no actual proof of the corona virus itself, just proof of presence of RNA that could come from various/different sources. Regardless of suspect nature of their declared number of "confirmed" cases, the possibility of confirming the corona virus is not achievable with current testing kits.
And we've now passed up Italy in total deaths.
Is it possible for us to have fucked this up any worse than we have?
I don't think so. But now the only thing we can do is, is try and find a way out of this hole, this disaster, back to some sense of normality.
I am finding more people are living a lot more normal than you would think.
And the states they live in have less than 100 deaths.
Sorry....your fairy tale is falling apart.
Yes.
If we have an out of control epidemic, we should be warry.
Fortunately all we are dealing with the Corona. The only issue there is the panic created by our fearless know-nothings.
Not just panic, problem are also accurate counts for infected and for causes of deaths.
My first neighbor works at the hospital and she sees problems with tests and results they're getting. So I wrote down few terms and notes, and try to make sense from what she said and what I found out. Well, she's not top specialist, but she works with them, and to me she damn right looks like she knows what she's talking about. Since I am in Michigan, I hope I won't be arrested for socializing with neighbors.
To test for corona virus, they're using something called RT-PCR, you can read about it here. What's wrong with the test is that is not looking for corona virus directly, but for presence of certain strain of RNA, and since it's believed that corona virus is an RNA virus, there is certain RNA wrapped in proteins. Where it goes from there... they are assuming that if that RNA can be detected, than patient must have corona virus. It's assumption, not certainty, and that's fallacy, because there is nothing to prove that RNA that show positive test did not come from some other source, like bacteria, fungi, or patient's other cells.
That's why there is big question about legitimacy of confirmed cases of corona virus. While it's true that RNA could've come from corona virus, it could have come from tons of other sources unrelated to corona virus. Now, how to actually prove someone has corona virus for real, what would be proper procedure? Well, that something called purification... way I understood it is, they need to find exact RNA protein structure of corona virus, purify it, then extract RNA from the structure that match original RNA found in Wuhan, and only if those are the match, than person has corona virus.
Since they're not doing that, there is no actual proof of the corona virus itself, just proof of presence of RNA that could come from various/different sources. Regardless of suspect nature of their declared number of "confirmed" cases, the possibility of confirming the corona virus is not achievable with current testing kits.
None of the fuckers who are shouting for a continued killing of the economy are looking at this.
They simply scream and yell because they are afraid someone might die. Even though 7,500 people die in the U.S. every day.
I've been in an area where social distancing is not being strictly practiced and never has been from what I can tell. And the state is way low in cases and deaths (and has two very sizable population centers).
Yes.
If we have an out of control epidemic, we should be warry.
Fortunately all we are dealing with the Corona. The only issue there is the panic created by our fearless know-nothings.
Not just panic, problem are also accurate counts for infected and for causes of deaths.
My first neighbor works at the hospital and she sees problems with tests and results they're getting. So I wrote down few terms and notes, and try to make sense from what she said and what I found out. Well, she's not top specialist, but she works with them, and to me she damn right looks like she knows what she's talking about. Since I am in Michigan, I hope I won't be arrested for socializing with neighbors.
To test for corona virus, they're using something called RT-PCR, you can read about it here. What's wrong with the test is that is not looking for corona virus directly, but for presence of certain strain of RNA, and since it's believed that corona virus is an RNA virus, there is certain RNA wrapped in proteins. Where it goes from there... they are assuming that if that RNA can be detected, than patient must have corona virus. It's assumption, not certainty, and that's fallacy, because there is nothing to prove that RNA that show positive test did not come from some other source, like bacteria, fungi, or patient's other cells.
That's why there is big question about legitimacy of confirmed cases of corona virus. While it's true that RNA could've come from corona virus, it could have come from tons of other sources unrelated to corona virus. Now, how to actually prove someone has corona virus for real, what would be proper procedure? Well, that something called purification... way I understood it is, they need to find exact RNA protein structure of corona virus, purify it, then extract RNA from the structure that match original RNA found in Wuhan, and only if those are the match, than person has corona virus.
Since they're not doing that, there is no actual proof of the corona virus itself, just proof of presence of RNA that could come from various/different sources. Regardless of suspect nature of their declared number of "confirmed" cases, the possibility of confirming the corona virus is not achievable with current testing kits.
March 24, 2020 - United States - 54,916
March 25, 2020 - United States - 68,489 - 24.7% increase
March 26, 2020 - United States - 85,594 - 24.97% increase
March 27, 2020 - United States - 104,256 - 21.8% increase
March 28, 2020 - United States - 123,776 - 18.7% increase
March 29, 2020 - United States - 142,224 - 14.9% increase
March 30, 2020 - United States - 164,266 - 15.5% increase
March 31, 2020 - United States - 188,578 - 14.8% increase
April 1, 2020 - United States - 215,300 - 14.2% increase
April 2, 2020 - United States - 245,193 - 13.9% increase
April 3, 2020 - United States - 277,475 - 13.2% increase
April 4, 2020 - United States - 311,635 - 12.3% increase
April 5, 2020 - United States - 336,830 - 8.1% increase
April 6, 2020 - United States - 367,629 - 9.1% increase
April 7, 2020 - United States - 400,540 - 9.0% increase
April 8, 2020 - United States - 435,160 - 8.6% increase
April 9, 2020 - United States - 468,895 - 7.8% increase
April 10, 2020 - United States - 502,876 - 7.3% increase
April 11, 2020 - United States - 533,115 - 6.0% increase
Again, they will never know, because they didn’t collect benchmark data. It will merely be opinionsIn an epidemic counts can be high or low. Doctors don't spend a lot time determine the cause of a single death when they have a ward filled with very sick people who tested positive for Covid 19. Maybe there are only 400,000 cases or maybe there is really 600,000. That's not really going change anything.Data is all over the map.
And we still don't know if we are counting correctly.
Deaths...due to Corona....
Actual cases....not enough testing....
All data is suspect.
And we are killing our economy (but the stock market seems O.K.).
Sadly, the choice is going be between lives and the economy. If social distancing is responsible for lowering the rate of infection, eliminating social distancing is going to be responsible for increasing that rate of infection, a very inconvenient truth that most of us don't want to face.
And here you are being a crybaby. The irony. My parents always told me to watch out playing with fireworks, they can blow up in your facePathetic whataboutism. There are 5 billion crybaby Obama threads on this board, we don't need 5 billion and 1. Thanks.Can you point to just one of your posts where you're criticizing Barry's handling of Swine Flu?
So roughly 1 in 650 people gets itMarch 24, 2020 - United States - 54,916
March 25, 2020 - United States - 68,489 - 24.7% increase
March 26, 2020 - United States - 85,594 - 24.97% increase
March 27, 2020 - United States - 104,256 - 21.8% increase
March 28, 2020 - United States - 123,776 - 18.7% increase
March 29, 2020 - United States - 142,224 - 14.9% increase
March 30, 2020 - United States - 164,266 - 15.5% increase
March 31, 2020 - United States - 188,578 - 14.8% increase
April 1, 2020 - United States - 215,300 - 14.2% increase
April 2, 2020 - United States - 245,193 - 13.9% increase
April 3, 2020 - United States - 277,475 - 13.2% increase
April 4, 2020 - United States - 311,635 - 12.3% increase
April 5, 2020 - United States - 336,830 - 8.1% increase
April 6, 2020 - United States - 367,629 - 9.1% increase
April 7, 2020 - United States - 400,540 - 9.0% increase
April 8, 2020 - United States - 435,160 - 8.6% increase
April 9, 2020 - United States - 468,895 - 7.8% increase
April 10, 2020 - United States - 502,876 - 7.3% increase
April 11, 2020 - United States - 533,115 - 6.0% increase
When we were kids we attached ourselves to rock stars. As we matured we no longer pretended. Are you still a kid or just a cellar dwelling doofus?Yes.
If we have an out of control epidemic, we should be warry.
Fortunately all we are dealing with the Corona. The only issue there is the panic created by our fearless know-nothings.
Not just panic, problem are also accurate counts for infected and for causes of deaths.
My first neighbor works at the hospital and she sees problems with tests and results they're getting. So I wrote down few terms and notes, and try to make sense from what she said and what I found out. Well, she's not top specialist, but she works with them, and to me she damn right looks like she knows what she's talking about. Since I am in Michigan, I hope I won't be arrested for socializing with neighbors.
To test for corona virus, they're using something called RT-PCR, you can read about it here. What's wrong with the test is that is not looking for corona virus directly, but for presence of certain strain of RNA, and since it's believed that corona virus is an RNA virus, there is certain RNA wrapped in proteins. Where it goes from there... they are assuming that if that RNA can be detected, than patient must have corona virus. It's assumption, not certainty, and that's fallacy, because there is nothing to prove that RNA that show positive test did not come from some other source, like bacteria, fungi, or patient's other cells.
That's why there is big question about legitimacy of confirmed cases of corona virus. While it's true that RNA could've come from corona virus, it could have come from tons of other sources unrelated to corona virus. Now, how to actually prove someone has corona virus for real, what would be proper procedure? Well, that something called purification... way I understood it is, they need to find exact RNA protein structure of corona virus, purify it, then extract RNA from the structure that match original RNA found in Wuhan, and only if those are the match, than person has corona virus.
Since they're not doing that, there is no actual proof of the corona virus itself, just proof of presence of RNA that could come from various/different sources. Regardless of suspect nature of their declared number of "confirmed" cases, the possibility of confirming the corona virus is not achievable with current testing kits.
The fact that people are having to be buried in mass graves in New York City do to the bodies stacking up outside of hospitals is all the proof you need about how dangerous and devastating this pandemic is. When was the last time New York City was forced to use mass graves to bury people do to the sudden surge of deaths?
Yes.
If we have an out of control epidemic, we should be warry.
Fortunately all we are dealing with the Corona. The only issue there is the panic created by our fearless know-nothings.
Not just panic, problem are also accurate counts for infected and for causes of deaths.
My first neighbor works at the hospital and she sees problems with tests and results they're getting. So I wrote down few terms and notes, and try to make sense from what she said and what I found out. Well, she's not top specialist, but she works with them, and to me she damn right looks like she knows what she's talking about. Since I am in Michigan, I hope I won't be arrested for socializing with neighbors.
To test for corona virus, they're using something called RT-PCR, you can read about it here. What's wrong with the test is that is not looking for corona virus directly, but for presence of certain strain of RNA, and since it's believed that corona virus is an RNA virus, there is certain RNA wrapped in proteins. Where it goes from there... they are assuming that if that RNA can be detected, than patient must have corona virus. It's assumption, not certainty, and that's fallacy, because there is nothing to prove that RNA that show positive test did not come from some other source, like bacteria, fungi, or patient's other cells.
That's why there is big question about legitimacy of confirmed cases of corona virus. While it's true that RNA could've come from corona virus, it could have come from tons of other sources unrelated to corona virus. Now, how to actually prove someone has corona virus for real, what would be proper procedure? Well, that something called purification... way I understood it is, they need to find exact RNA protein structure of corona virus, purify it, then extract RNA from the structure that match original RNA found in Wuhan, and only if those are the match, than person has corona virus.
Since they're not doing that, there is no actual proof of the corona virus itself, just proof of presence of RNA that could come from various/different sources. Regardless of suspect nature of their declared number of "confirmed" cases, the possibility of confirming the corona virus is not achievable with current testing kits.
None of the fuckers who are shouting for a continued killing of the economy are looking at this.
They simply scream and yell because they are afraid someone might die. Even though 7,500 people die in the U.S. every day.
I've been in an area where social distancing is not being strictly practiced and never has been from what I can tell. And the state is way low in cases and deaths (and has two very sizable population centers).
Yes.
If we have an out of control epidemic, we should be warry.
Fortunately all we are dealing with the Corona. The only issue there is the panic created by our fearless know-nothings.
Not just panic, problem are also accurate counts for infected and for causes of deaths.
My first neighbor works at the hospital and she sees problems with tests and results they're getting. So I wrote down few terms and notes, and try to make sense from what she said and what I found out. Well, she's not top specialist, but she works with them, and to me she damn right looks like she knows what she's talking about. Since I am in Michigan, I hope I won't be arrested for socializing with neighbors.
To test for corona virus, they're using something called RT-PCR, you can read about it here. What's wrong with the test is that is not looking for corona virus directly, but for presence of certain strain of RNA, and since it's believed that corona virus is an RNA virus, there is certain RNA wrapped in proteins. Where it goes from there... they are assuming that if that RNA can be detected, than patient must have corona virus. It's assumption, not certainty, and that's fallacy, because there is nothing to prove that RNA that show positive test did not come from some other source, like bacteria, fungi, or patient's other cells.
That's why there is big question about legitimacy of confirmed cases of corona virus. While it's true that RNA could've come from corona virus, it could have come from tons of other sources unrelated to corona virus. Now, how to actually prove someone has corona virus for real, what would be proper procedure? Well, that something called purification... way I understood it is, they need to find exact RNA protein structure of corona virus, purify it, then extract RNA from the structure that match original RNA found in Wuhan, and only if those are the match, than person has corona virus.
Since they're not doing that, there is no actual proof of the corona virus itself, just proof of presence of RNA that could come from various/different sources. Regardless of suspect nature of their declared number of "confirmed" cases, the possibility of confirming the corona virus is not achievable with current testing kits.
The fact that people are having to be buried in mass graves in New York City do to the bodies stacking up outside of hospitals is all the proof you need about how dangerous and devastating this pandemic is. When was the last time New York City was forced to use mass graves to bury people do to the sudden surge of deaths?
No, sorry, im just not going to breath life onto a whiny cultists whataboutism attempts. Sorry whiner.Oh, you can blame Trump and defend Barry, and you can compare the two in your post, but when asked to clarify, your tail goes between legs.
You tell is something now:Yes.
If we have an out of control epidemic, we should be warry.
Fortunately all we are dealing with the Corona. The only issue there is the panic created by our fearless know-nothings.
Not just panic, problem are also accurate counts for infected and for causes of deaths.
My first neighbor works at the hospital and she sees problems with tests and results they're getting. So I wrote down few terms and notes, and try to make sense from what she said and what I found out. Well, she's not top specialist, but she works with them, and to me she damn right looks like she knows what she's talking about. Since I am in Michigan, I hope I won't be arrested for socializing with neighbors.
To test for corona virus, they're using something called RT-PCR, you can read about it here. What's wrong with the test is that is not looking for corona virus directly, but for presence of certain strain of RNA, and since it's believed that corona virus is an RNA virus, there is certain RNA wrapped in proteins. Where it goes from there... they are assuming that if that RNA can be detected, than patient must have corona virus. It's assumption, not certainty, and that's fallacy, because there is nothing to prove that RNA that show positive test did not come from some other source, like bacteria, fungi, or patient's other cells.
That's why there is big question about legitimacy of confirmed cases of corona virus. While it's true that RNA could've come from corona virus, it could have come from tons of other sources unrelated to corona virus. Now, how to actually prove someone has corona virus for real, what would be proper procedure? Well, that something called purification... way I understood it is, they need to find exact RNA protein structure of corona virus, purify it, then extract RNA from the structure that match original RNA found in Wuhan, and only if those are the match, than person has corona virus.
Since they're not doing that, there is no actual proof of the corona virus itself, just proof of presence of RNA that could come from various/different sources. Regardless of suspect nature of their declared number of "confirmed" cases, the possibility of confirming the corona virus is not achievable with current testing kits.
The fact that people are having to be buried in mass graves in New York City do to the bodies stacking up outside of hospitals is all the proof you need about how dangerous and devastating this pandemic is. When was the last time New York City was forced to use mass graves to bury people do to the sudden surge of deaths?
Mass graves? Linky?
Tell me something, when you can't have burials, and when bodies cannot be released to families or funeral homes, what do you do with them? You think those bodies in tailors are just COVID deaths?
No, sorry, im just not going to breath life onto a whiny cultists whataboutism attempts. Sorry whiner.Oh, you can blame Trump and defend Barry, and you can compare the two in your post, but when asked to clarify, your tail goes between legs.
You tell is something now:Yes.
If we have an out of control epidemic, we should be warry.
Fortunately all we are dealing with the Corona. The only issue there is the panic created by our fearless know-nothings.
Not just panic, problem are also accurate counts for infected and for causes of deaths.
My first neighbor works at the hospital and she sees problems with tests and results they're getting. So I wrote down few terms and notes, and try to make sense from what she said and what I found out. Well, she's not top specialist, but she works with them, and to me she damn right looks like she knows what she's talking about. Since I am in Michigan, I hope I won't be arrested for socializing with neighbors.
To test for corona virus, they're using something called RT-PCR, you can read about it here. What's wrong with the test is that is not looking for corona virus directly, but for presence of certain strain of RNA, and since it's believed that corona virus is an RNA virus, there is certain RNA wrapped in proteins. Where it goes from there... they are assuming that if that RNA can be detected, than patient must have corona virus. It's assumption, not certainty, and that's fallacy, because there is nothing to prove that RNA that show positive test did not come from some other source, like bacteria, fungi, or patient's other cells.
That's why there is big question about legitimacy of confirmed cases of corona virus. While it's true that RNA could've come from corona virus, it could have come from tons of other sources unrelated to corona virus. Now, how to actually prove someone has corona virus for real, what would be proper procedure? Well, that something called purification... way I understood it is, they need to find exact RNA protein structure of corona virus, purify it, then extract RNA from the structure that match original RNA found in Wuhan, and only if those are the match, than person has corona virus.
Since they're not doing that, there is no actual proof of the corona virus itself, just proof of presence of RNA that could come from various/different sources. Regardless of suspect nature of their declared number of "confirmed" cases, the possibility of confirming the corona virus is not achievable with current testing kits.
The fact that people are having to be buried in mass graves in New York City do to the bodies stacking up outside of hospitals is all the proof you need about how dangerous and devastating this pandemic is. When was the last time New York City was forced to use mass graves to bury people do to the sudden surge of deaths?
Mass graves? Linky?
Tell me something, when you can't have burials, and when bodies cannot be released to families or funeral homes, what do you do with them? You think those bodies in tailors are just COVID deaths?
Is it, in fact, your truly idiotic claim that they are handling no more deaths than usual, but simply cant release the bodies?
Thats a yes/no question.
