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I suspect the virus is spread not by just coughing. Remember the choir where 45 people became infected from choir practices plus a lot of cases have no identifiable contact.
There could be a lot of good things come out this epidemic. If the social distancing and the other common sense health precautions such as hand washing, avoiding handshaking, and reduction in hand touching of the face becomes a habit with many people, it could have a dramatic impact on the flu, pneumonia, digestive infections, the common cold, etc.. and that would have dramatic impact on the cost of healthcare and worker productivity. In fact there are a number of good things that could come out all this. Maybe I should start thread about it.
The population density in Utah is 33 people per square mile. The population density of New York City is 28,000 people per square mile. High density populations have high numbers of cases and deaths.View attachment 322606
An epidemic with an exponential growth in the number of cases is out of control. An epidemic is considered under control when the number of new cases are decreasing.Predicting the numbers of deaths in an out of control epidemic by Aug. is about as accurate as predicting the Dow Jones Average at end of Aug.March 24, 2020 - United States - 54,916
March 25, 2020 - United States - 68,489 - 24.7% increase
March 26, 2020 - United States - 85,594 - 24.97% increase
March 27, 2020 - United States - 104,256 - 21.8% increase
March 28, 2020 - United States - 123,776 - 18.7% increase
March 29, 2020 - United States - 142,224 - 14.9% increase
March 30, 2020 - United States - 164,266 - 15.5% increase
March 31, 2020 - United States - 188,578 - 14.8% increase
April 1, 2020 - United States - 215,300 - 14.2% increase
April 2, 2020 - United States - 245,193 - 13.9% increase
April 3, 2020 - United States - 277,475 - 13.2% increase
April 4, 2020 - United States - 311,635 - 12.3% increase
April 5, 2020 - United States - 336,830 - 8.1% increase
April 6, 2020 - United States - 367,629 - 9.1% increase
April 7, 2020 - United States - 400,540 - 9.0% increase
April 8, 2020 - United States - 435,160 - 8.6% increase
April 9, 2020 - United States - 468,895 - 7.8% increase
April 10, 2020 - United States - 502,876 - 7.3% increase
If you show the actual differential, you'll see the actual number staying pretty steady. As a percentage of the whole (and keep in mind these are total cases.....we have about 45,000 resolved cases) they will decrease because the whole is getting larger.
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At one point, before I was making the chart, you were having an increasing rate of increase per day, despite the total becoming larger every day. The nightmare situation was staying at 27% increase per day and having 100 million people infected by April 25. Now that the rate has dropped below 8%, were looking at maybe 3 million infections in a month, but that's if we stay around 8% a day. Hopefully that will be cut further.
If the prediction is for 60,000 deaths by August, then at the current death rate, that will mean about 1,560,000 confirmed infections by August. That would suggest that were about 1/3 of the way through this first wave. Of course, these are all just projections based on current numbers.
Yes.
If we have an out of control epidemic, we should be warry.
Fortunately all we are dealing with the Corona. The only issue there is the panic created by our fearless know-nothings.
And in many cases it is decreasing.
I've been posting several key examples.
When we were kids we attached ourselves to rock stars. As we matured we no longer pretended. Are you still a kid or just a cellar dwelling doofus?Yes.
If we have an out of control epidemic, we should be warry.
Fortunately all we are dealing with the Corona. The only issue there is the panic created by our fearless know-nothings.
Not just panic, problem are also accurate counts for infected and for causes of deaths.
My first neighbor works at the hospital and she sees problems with tests and results they're getting. So I wrote down few terms and notes, and try to make sense from what she said and what I found out. Well, she's not top specialist, but she works with them, and to me she damn right looks like she knows what she's talking about. Since I am in Michigan, I hope I won't be arrested for socializing with neighbors.
To test for corona virus, they're using something called RT-PCR, you can read about it here. What's wrong with the test is that is not looking for corona virus directly, but for presence of certain strain of RNA, and since it's believed that corona virus is an RNA virus, there is certain RNA wrapped in proteins. Where it goes from there... they are assuming that if that RNA can be detected, than patient must have corona virus. It's assumption, not certainty, and that's fallacy, because there is nothing to prove that RNA that show positive test did not come from some other source, like bacteria, fungi, or patient's other cells.
That's why there is big question about legitimacy of confirmed cases of corona virus. While it's true that RNA could've come from corona virus, it could have come from tons of other sources unrelated to corona virus. Now, how to actually prove someone has corona virus for real, what would be proper procedure? Well, that something called purification... way I understood it is, they need to find exact RNA protein structure of corona virus, purify it, then extract RNA from the structure that match original RNA found in Wuhan, and only if those are the match, than person has corona virus.
Since they're not doing that, there is no actual proof of the corona virus itself, just proof of presence of RNA that could come from various/different sources. Regardless of suspect nature of their declared number of "confirmed" cases, the possibility of confirming the corona virus is not achievable with current testing kits.
The fact that people are having to be buried in mass graves in New York City do to the bodies stacking up outside of hospitals is all the proof you need about how dangerous and devastating this pandemic is. When was the last time New York City was forced to use mass graves to bury people do to the sudden surge of deaths?
So roughly 1 in 650 people gets itMarch 24, 2020 - United States - 54,916
March 25, 2020 - United States - 68,489 - 24.7% increase
March 26, 2020 - United States - 85,594 - 24.97% increase
March 27, 2020 - United States - 104,256 - 21.8% increase
March 28, 2020 - United States - 123,776 - 18.7% increase
March 29, 2020 - United States - 142,224 - 14.9% increase
March 30, 2020 - United States - 164,266 - 15.5% increase
March 31, 2020 - United States - 188,578 - 14.8% increase
April 1, 2020 - United States - 215,300 - 14.2% increase
April 2, 2020 - United States - 245,193 - 13.9% increase
April 3, 2020 - United States - 277,475 - 13.2% increase
April 4, 2020 - United States - 311,635 - 12.3% increase
April 5, 2020 - United States - 336,830 - 8.1% increase
April 6, 2020 - United States - 367,629 - 9.1% increase
April 7, 2020 - United States - 400,540 - 9.0% increase
April 8, 2020 - United States - 435,160 - 8.6% increase
April 9, 2020 - United States - 468,895 - 7.8% increase
April 10, 2020 - United States - 502,876 - 7.3% increase
April 11, 2020 - United States - 533,115 - 6.0% increase
50,000 seat stadium wise, 77 infecteds and 49,923 not,
Definitely NOT a reason to shut down the USA
Yes.
If we have an out of control epidemic, we should be warry.
Fortunately all we are dealing with the Corona. The only issue there is the panic created by our fearless know-nothings.
Not just panic, problem are also accurate counts for infected and for causes of deaths.
My first neighbor works at the hospital and she sees problems with tests and results they're getting. So I wrote down few terms and notes, and try to make sense from what she said and what I found out. Well, she's not top specialist, but she works with them, and to me she damn right looks like she knows what she's talking about. Since I am in Michigan, I hope I won't be arrested for socializing with neighbors.
To test for corona virus, they're using something called RT-PCR, you can read about it here. What's wrong with the test is that is not looking for corona virus directly, but for presence of certain strain of RNA, and since it's believed that corona virus is an RNA virus, there is certain RNA wrapped in proteins. Where it goes from there... they are assuming that if that RNA can be detected, than patient must have corona virus. It's assumption, not certainty, and that's fallacy, because there is nothing to prove that RNA that show positive test did not come from some other source, like bacteria, fungi, or patient's other cells.
That's why there is big question about legitimacy of confirmed cases of corona virus. While it's true that RNA could've come from corona virus, it could have come from tons of other sources unrelated to corona virus. Now, how to actually prove someone has corona virus for real, what would be proper procedure? Well, that something called purification... way I understood it is, they need to find exact RNA protein structure of corona virus, purify it, then extract RNA from the structure that match original RNA found in Wuhan, and only if those are the match, than person has corona virus.
Since they're not doing that, there is no actual proof of the corona virus itself, just proof of presence of RNA that could come from various/different sources. Regardless of suspect nature of their declared number of "confirmed" cases, the possibility of confirming the corona virus is not achievable with current testing kits.
The fact that people are having to be buried in mass graves in New York City do to the bodies stacking up outside of hospitals is all the proof you need about how dangerous and devastating this pandemic is. When was the last time New York City was forced to use mass graves to bury people do to the sudden surge of deaths?
Mass graves? Linky?
Tell me something, when you can't have burials, and when bodies cannot be released to families or funeral homes, what do you do with them? You think those bodies in tailors are just COVID deaths?
New York + New Jersey + Michigan carry 67% of yesterday's deaths.
The rest of the country could give a shit.
Yes.
If we have an out of control epidemic, we should be warry.
Fortunately all we are dealing with the Corona. The only issue there is the panic created by our fearless know-nothings.
Not just panic, problem are also accurate counts for infected and for causes of deaths.
My first neighbor works at the hospital and she sees problems with tests and results they're getting. So I wrote down few terms and notes, and try to make sense from what she said and what I found out. Well, she's not top specialist, but she works with them, and to me she damn right looks like she knows what she's talking about. Since I am in Michigan, I hope I won't be arrested for socializing with neighbors.
To test for corona virus, they're using something called RT-PCR, you can read about it here. What's wrong with the test is that is not looking for corona virus directly, but for presence of certain strain of RNA, and since it's believed that corona virus is an RNA virus, there is certain RNA wrapped in proteins. Where it goes from there... they are assuming that if that RNA can be detected, than patient must have corona virus. It's assumption, not certainty, and that's fallacy, because there is nothing to prove that RNA that show positive test did not come from some other source, like bacteria, fungi, or patient's other cells.
That's why there is big question about legitimacy of confirmed cases of corona virus. While it's true that RNA could've come from corona virus, it could have come from tons of other sources unrelated to corona virus. Now, how to actually prove someone has corona virus for real, what would be proper procedure? Well, that something called purification... way I understood it is, they need to find exact RNA protein structure of corona virus, purify it, then extract RNA from the structure that match original RNA found in Wuhan, and only if those are the match, than person has corona virus.
Since they're not doing that, there is no actual proof of the corona virus itself, just proof of presence of RNA that could come from various/different sources. Regardless of suspect nature of their declared number of "confirmed" cases, the possibility of confirming the corona virus is not achievable with current testing kits.
The fact that people are having to be buried in mass graves in New York City do to the bodies stacking up outside of hospitals is all the proof you need about how dangerous and devastating this pandemic is. When was the last time New York City was forced to use mass graves to bury people do to the sudden surge of deaths?
Mass graves? Linky?
Tell me something, when you can't have burials, and when bodies cannot be released to families or funeral homes, what do you do with them? You think those bodies in tailors are just COVID deaths?
Does not matter why or how the people died. Mass graves have become necessary in New York.
New York + New Jersey + Michigan carry 67% of yesterday's deaths.
The rest of the country could give a shit.
Actually the rest of the country does care, except maybe some idiots in these states that have yet to issue a statewide stay at home order:
North Dakota
South Dakota
Nebraska
Iowa
Arkansas
Oklahoma
Wyoming
Utah
Your Google's broken again, eh? Bummer. It must suck to have to beg strangers on the internet for widely, publicly available information. Kinda defeats the purpose of the internet, no?Yes.
If we have an out of control epidemic, we should be warry.
Fortunately all we are dealing with the Corona. The only issue there is the panic created by our fearless know-nothings.
Not just panic, problem are also accurate counts for infected and for causes of deaths.
My first neighbor works at the hospital and she sees problems with tests and results they're getting. So I wrote down few terms and notes, and try to make sense from what she said and what I found out. Well, she's not top specialist, but she works with them, and to me she damn right looks like she knows what she's talking about. Since I am in Michigan, I hope I won't be arrested for socializing with neighbors.
To test for corona virus, they're using something called RT-PCR, you can read about it here. What's wrong with the test is that is not looking for corona virus directly, but for presence of certain strain of RNA, and since it's believed that corona virus is an RNA virus, there is certain RNA wrapped in proteins. Where it goes from there... they are assuming that if that RNA can be detected, than patient must have corona virus. It's assumption, not certainty, and that's fallacy, because there is nothing to prove that RNA that show positive test did not come from some other source, like bacteria, fungi, or patient's other cells.
That's why there is big question about legitimacy of confirmed cases of corona virus. While it's true that RNA could've come from corona virus, it could have come from tons of other sources unrelated to corona virus. Now, how to actually prove someone has corona virus for real, what would be proper procedure? Well, that something called purification... way I understood it is, they need to find exact RNA protein structure of corona virus, purify it, then extract RNA from the structure that match original RNA found in Wuhan, and only if those are the match, than person has corona virus.
Since they're not doing that, there is no actual proof of the corona virus itself, just proof of presence of RNA that could come from various/different sources. Regardless of suspect nature of their declared number of "confirmed" cases, the possibility of confirming the corona virus is not achievable with current testing kits.
The fact that people are having to be buried in mass graves in New York City do to the bodies stacking up outside of hospitals is all the proof you need about how dangerous and devastating this pandemic is. When was the last time New York City was forced to use mass graves to bury people do to the sudden surge of deaths?
Mass graves? Linky?
Tell me something, when you can't have burials, and when bodies cannot be released to families or funeral homes, what do you do with them? You think those bodies in tailors are just COVID deaths?
Does not matter why or how the people died. Mass graves have become necessary in New York.
Still no linky?
Your Google's broken again, eh? Bummer. It must suck to have to beg strangers on the internet for widely, publicly available information. Kinda defeats the purpose of the internet, no?Yes.
If we have an out of control epidemic, we should be warry.
Fortunately all we are dealing with the Corona. The only issue there is the panic created by our fearless know-nothings.
Not just panic, problem are also accurate counts for infected and for causes of deaths.
My first neighbor works at the hospital and she sees problems with tests and results they're getting. So I wrote down few terms and notes, and try to make sense from what she said and what I found out. Well, she's not top specialist, but she works with them, and to me she damn right looks like she knows what she's talking about. Since I am in Michigan, I hope I won't be arrested for socializing with neighbors.
To test for corona virus, they're using something called RT-PCR, you can read about it here. What's wrong with the test is that is not looking for corona virus directly, but for presence of certain strain of RNA, and since it's believed that corona virus is an RNA virus, there is certain RNA wrapped in proteins. Where it goes from there... they are assuming that if that RNA can be detected, than patient must have corona virus. It's assumption, not certainty, and that's fallacy, because there is nothing to prove that RNA that show positive test did not come from some other source, like bacteria, fungi, or patient's other cells.
That's why there is big question about legitimacy of confirmed cases of corona virus. While it's true that RNA could've come from corona virus, it could have come from tons of other sources unrelated to corona virus. Now, how to actually prove someone has corona virus for real, what would be proper procedure? Well, that something called purification... way I understood it is, they need to find exact RNA protein structure of corona virus, purify it, then extract RNA from the structure that match original RNA found in Wuhan, and only if those are the match, than person has corona virus.
Since they're not doing that, there is no actual proof of the corona virus itself, just proof of presence of RNA that could come from various/different sources. Regardless of suspect nature of their declared number of "confirmed" cases, the possibility of confirming the corona virus is not achievable with current testing kits.
The fact that people are having to be buried in mass graves in New York City do to the bodies stacking up outside of hospitals is all the proof you need about how dangerous and devastating this pandemic is. When was the last time New York City was forced to use mass graves to bury people do to the sudden surge of deaths?
Mass graves? Linky?
Tell me something, when you can't have burials, and when bodies cannot be released to families or funeral homes, what do you do with them? You think those bodies in tailors are just COVID deaths?
Does not matter why or how the people died. Mass graves have become necessary in New York.
Still no linky?
Yeah, well, good for you. Peraonally, i look up info for myself, instead of staying ignorant to make a point. Enjoy your "stand".But if you or someone else make a claim, you should provide the source of the claim.
Can you demonstrate the necessity for a stay at home order in those states?Actually the rest of the country does care, except maybe some idiots in these states that have yet to issue a statewide stay at home order:
thejewishvoice.com
You're showing signs that malt liquor will rot a brain.1 term president lol and you base that on what?Emotional investment in a false scenario is very difficult to dislodge
12 months from now, just like the ongoing Muller is still working delusion, 50 million liberals will declare that 65,000 did not die but rather 1.7-2.2 million did because that’s the emotional investment material that was fed to them and they gobbled it down and now it’s ingrained in them.
Ha, 12 months from now sycophants will still be saying that trump was the greatest 1-term president ever because a lower level of education prevents critical thinking.
That trump is a total fuck up.
Good for us, we've passed the 2½ million mark on testing. Still a long way to go.
Country,
OtherTotal
CasesNew
CasesTotal
DeathsNew
DeathsTotal
RecoveredActive
CasesSerious,
CriticalTot Cases/
1M popDeaths/
1M popTotal
TestsTests/
1M popWorld 1,685,533 +81,881 102,099 +6,407 375,221 1,208,213 49,774 216 13.1 USA 493,426 +24,860 18,331 +1,640 26,783 448,312 10,896 1,491 55 2,502,643 7,561 Spain 157,053 +3,831 15,970 +523 55,668 85,415 7,371 3,359 342 355,000 7,593 Italy 147,577 +3,951 18,849 +570 30,455 98,273 3,497 2,441 312 906,864 14,999 France 124,869 +7,120 13,197 +987 24,932 86,740 7,004 1,913 202 333,807 5,114 Germany 121,045 +2,810 2,728 +121 53,913 64,404 4,895 1,445 33 1,317,887 15,730 China 81,907 +42 3,336 +1 77,455 1,116 144 57 2 UK 73,758 +8,681 8,958 +980 135 64,665 1,559 1,086 132 316,836 4,667 Iran 68,192 +1,972 4,232 +122 35,465 28,495 3,969 812 50 242,568 2,888 Turkey 47,029 +4,747 1,006 +98 2,423 43,600 1,667 558 12 307,210 3,643 Belgium 26,667 +1,684 3,019 +496 5,568 18,080 1,278 2,301 260 84,248 7,269 Switzerland 24,551 +500 1,002 +54 11,100 12,449 386 2,837 116 178,500 20,625 Netherlands 23,097 +1,335 2,511 +115 250 20,336 1,424 1,348 147 101,534 5,926 Canada 22,046 +1,281 556 +47 5,834 15,656 518 584 15 370,315 9,812
What our rate of testing per 100,000 people?
