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The Republicans' target specifically is felons pardoned by Gov. Cuomo in May being able to vote in today's primaries.
NY Gov Fredo Cuomo signed an EO to allow convicted sex offenders onto school property so they can register and vote (for democRATs no doubt.)
VALHALLA, NY — Local officials are concerned about an issue that's been getting a lot of traction on social media from New York Republicans in the past two days: the fact that the people pardoned this spring can vote in today's primaries.
State Sen. Terrence Murphy said he received calls from parents worried that a deviant level 3 sexual offender registered to vote at the Hawthorne Elementary School would show up to vote there.
Officials Object To Sex Offenders Voting In School Polling Places
Depends upon the state they are in.
Only a communist would take away a persons rights once they paid their debt to society.
We’ve been over this before. A felony is a lifetime debt to society. Their prison time may end but the civil death is irreversible except through pardon. Who taught you to conflate time served with a debt to society? It has never been so in the legal systems of common law.
Oh horse shit. A 17 year old stealing a car does not owe society a lifetime debt, what a load of fucking bullshit.
You just want as few people voting a possible. I bet you are a gun grabber too and think anyone with a felon should never own a gun.
People like you make me want to puke, you care nothing at all about personal liberty.
It's true I don't have that fetish for mindless voting that you have imbibed. You still confuse the mechanism of freedom with freedom itself. You are like a person who thinks the reason we drive is to put gas in the tank.
Our common and western law traditions gave us a legacy of liberty. Not your feel goodism and shallow interpretation of freedom. probably more tyrannies have been voted into existence in human history than imposed by any other means.
And once again you take the liberal way out by using the exception to attack the rule. There are mechanisms to deal with such exceptional cases. In fact the executive pardon (another long standing western bulwark of freedom) is in part designed to deal with just such cases.
A felony is a felony. You dont care about 17 year old car thieves. Its a lever to use against our American traditions of felony disenfranchisement which protects civil society from rule by people who have no use for civil society.
Maybe your time could be better spent warning 17 year olds that crime can ruin a life.
Depends upon the state they are in.
Only a communist would take away a persons rights once they paid their debt to society.
We’ve been over this before. A felony is a lifetime debt to society. Their prison time may end but the civil death is irreversible except through pardon. Who taught you to conflate time served with a debt to society? It has never been so in the legal systems of common law.
Definition of DEBT TO SOCIETY
Definition of debt to society
—used in phrases such as pay your debt to society to refer to being punished for committing a crime
- After 10 years in prison, he has paid his debt to society and is a free man.
somebody has paid their debt to society | meaning of somebody has paid their debt to society in Longman Dictionary of Contemporary English | LDOCE
somebody has paid their debt to societyused to say that someone who has done something illegal has been fully punished for it→ pay
Examples from the Corpus
somebody has paid their debt to society• After 20 years in jail, Murray feels he has paid his debt to society.
Depends upon the state they are in.
Only a communist would take away a persons rights once they paid their debt to society.
We’ve been over this before. A felony is a lifetime debt to society. Their prison time may end but the civil death is irreversible except through pardon. Who taught you to conflate time served with a debt to society? It has never been so in the legal systems of common law.
Definition of DEBT TO SOCIETY
Definition of debt to society
—used in phrases such as pay your debt to society to refer to being punished for committing a crime
- After 10 years in prison, he has paid his debt to society and is a free man.
somebody has paid their debt to society | meaning of somebody has paid their debt to society in Longman Dictionary of Contemporary English | LDOCE
somebody has paid their debt to societyused to say that someone who has done something illegal has been fully punished for it→ pay
Examples from the Corpus
somebody has paid their debt to society• After 20 years in jail, Murray feels he has paid his debt to society.
The punishment for a felony is the civil death. It lasts a lifetime. it may also include prison time as well. Prison times ends. The civil death usually doesnt.
Depends upon the state they are in.
Only a communist would take away a persons rights once they paid their debt to society.
We’ve been over this before. A felony is a lifetime debt to society. Their prison time may end but the civil death is irreversible except through pardon. Who taught you to conflate time served with a debt to society? It has never been so in the legal systems of common law.
Definition of DEBT TO SOCIETY
Definition of debt to society
—used in phrases such as pay your debt to society to refer to being punished for committing a crime
- After 10 years in prison, he has paid his debt to society and is a free man.
somebody has paid their debt to society | meaning of somebody has paid their debt to society in Longman Dictionary of Contemporary English | LDOCE
somebody has paid their debt to societyused to say that someone who has done something illegal has been fully punished for it→ pay
Examples from the Corpus
somebody has paid their debt to society• After 20 years in jail, Murray feels he has paid his debt to society.
The punishment for a felony is the civil death. It lasts a lifetime. it may also include prison time as well. Prison times ends. The civil death usually doesnt.
“In one oft-cited 2002 study, sociologists looked at voting patterns in Florida during the 2000 election and concluded that Al Gore would have carried the state, and the Electoral College, over George W. Bush had voting rights been extended to people with felony records. The same study looked at 400 Senate elections from 1978 and 2000 and found that seven may have been reversed in favor of Democrats if not for felony disenfranchisement.”
Find the study here.
7 out of 400!
Too bad. Kavenaugh is the next SC justice...and the slight edge felons would have given Democrats is something you will have to regret not having.
“In one oft-cited 2002 study, sociologists looked at voting patterns in Florida during the 2000 election and concluded that Al Gore would have carried the state, and the Electoral College, over George W. Bush had voting rights been extended to people with felony records. The same study looked at 400 Senate elections from 1978 and 2000 and found that seven may have been reversed in favor of Democrats if not for felony disenfranchisement.”
Find the study here.
7 out of 400!
You see what I mean by shallow? More interested in defending democrats than truth arent you. Felons give Democrats the edge. Never republicans. It may be a slight edge but apparently it is worth pursuing for them. It doesnt turn every race. But according to the study it always improves the Democrats odds.
And if felons could vote Al Gore would have been President. You ignored that in your dishonest answer.
Couldn't they use seven more senators right now? Or even two more
You never did answer if you were a gun grabber not wanting felons to ever own a gun again. What are you hiding there my little commie?
You just want as few people voting a possible. I bet you are a gun grabber too and think anyone with a felon should never own a gun.
Felony-level criminals should lose the right to vote permanently as part of the penalty for their crime.
It's ridiculous to let such people choose the direction of the country.
Highly unconstitutional in my opinion.
Someone who steals a car when they are 17 because they were stupid should not be punished for the rest of their life.
A felony-level criminal can join the military and serve their country then they should be able to vote.
I don't think they should lose the right to vote at all, even while incarcerated. You don't lose the fundamental right to marry while incarcerated so why should you lose the fundamental right to vote?
I'd like to see these laws challenged.
I have no problem with them not being able to vote while incarcerated, then again I would not allow them to marry either.
“In one oft-cited 2002 study, sociologists looked at voting patterns in Florida during the 2000 election and concluded that Al Gore would have carried the state, and the Electoral College, over George W. Bush had voting rights been extended to people with felony records. The same study looked at 400 Senate elections from 1978 and 2000 and found that seven may have been reversed in favor of Democrats if not for felony disenfranchisement.”
Find the study here.
7 out of 400!
You see what I mean by shallow? More interested in defending democrats than truth arent you. Felons give Democrats the edge. Never republicans. It may be a slight edge but apparently it is worth pursuing for them. It doesnt turn every race. But according to the study it always improves the Democrats odds.
And if felons could vote Al Gore would have been President. You ignored that in your dishonest answer.
Couldn't they use seven more senators right now? Or even two more
Only in your fucked up little world is that the case.
Got a link to that little tidbit? What law is it written in? I am curious where you came up with it since I have not heard it in my lifetime.
Got a link to that little tidbit? What law is it written in? I am curious where you came up with it since I have not heard it in my lifetime.
Ahh the link. Nothing exists without the link does it? You could have found it as easily yourself rather than asking me you know? Perhaps looking up "civil death" or "outlawery" or, if feeling especially brave and willing to venture out of your bubble, try "caput lupinum". Use Wikipedia. I'm not asking you to actually read books or study history or to try and really understand anything. Im just directing you to links as you asked. Because you know thats all that is needed to grasp complex subjects...a link and four minutes of intense study will surely be enough to educate you.
As far as the where the laws are written....are you of the opinion, like Golfing Gator , that because you dont like the laws they dont exist? I thought the noxious laws as written were the whole point behind this discussion? Findlaw.com should bring you to the laws on felony disenfranchisement. If not then try Justia.com.
“In one oft-cited 2002 study, sociologists looked at voting patterns in Florida during the 2000 election and concluded that Al Gore would have carried the state, and the Electoral College, over George W. Bush had voting rights been extended to people with felony records. The same study looked at 400 Senate elections from 1978 and 2000 and found that seven may have been reversed in favor of Democrats if not for felony disenfranchisement.”
Find the study here.
7 out of 400!
You see what I mean by shallow? More interested in defending democrats than truth arent you. Felons give Democrats the edge. Never republicans. It may be a slight edge but apparently it is worth pursuing for them. It doesnt turn every race. But according to the study it always improves the Democrats odds.
And if felons could vote Al Gore would have been President. You ignored that in your dishonest answer.
Couldn't they use seven more senators right now? Or even two more
7 out of 400 is statistically insignificant and falls within the margin of error of the study.
You are dumber than a box of rocks
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“In one oft-cited 2002 study, sociologists looked at voting patterns in Florida during the 2000 election and concluded that Al Gore would have carried the state, and the Electoral College, over George W. Bush had voting rights been extended to people with felony records. The same study looked at 400 Senate elections from 1978 and 2000 and found that seven may have been reversed in favor of Democrats if not for felony disenfranchisement.”
Find the study here.
7 out of 400!
You see what I mean by shallow? More interested in defending democrats than truth arent you. Felons give Democrats the edge. Never republicans. It may be a slight edge but apparently it is worth pursuing for them. It doesnt turn every race. But according to the study it always improves the Democrats odds.
And if felons could vote Al Gore would have been President. You ignored that in your dishonest answer.
Couldn't they use seven more senators right now? Or even two more
I am happy about Kavanaugh you dumb fuck.
Your ignorance shows through more and more with each post.
“In one oft-cited 2002 study, sociologists looked at voting patterns in Florida during the 2000 election and concluded that Al Gore would have carried the state, and the Electoral College, over George W. Bush had voting rights been extended to people with felony records. The same study looked at 400 Senate elections from 1978 and 2000 and found that seven may have been reversed in favor of Democrats if not for felony disenfranchisement.”
Find the study here.
7 out of 400!
You see what I mean by shallow? More interested in defending democrats than truth arent you. Felons give Democrats the edge. Never republicans. It may be a slight edge but apparently it is worth pursuing for them. It doesnt turn every race. But according to the study it always improves the Democrats odds.
And if felons could vote Al Gore would have been President. You ignored that in your dishonest answer.
Couldn't they use seven more senators right now? Or even two more
7 out of 400 is statistically insignificant and falls within the margin of error of the study.
You are dumber than a box of rocks
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LOL.. Now you are desperate enough to make up sciency sounding objections? Do tell...what is the "margin of error" in this report and where is it cited?
(1) no margin of error is given. You made that up.
(2) a margin of error would apply to each statistical analysis. Not to how many races would have been changed by such analysis.
Once again...the shallowest interpretation possible. Mr Libertarian LOL
Let me give you the real results of this paper, conducted with scientific rigor, which you did not read and will never read.
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Felony-level criminals should lose the right to vote permanently as part of the penalty for their crime.
It's ridiculous to let such people choose the direction of the country.
Highly unconstitutional in my opinion.
Someone who steals a car when they are 17 because they were stupid should not be punished for the rest of their life.
A felony-level criminal can join the military and serve their country then they should be able to vote.
I don't think they should lose the right to vote at all, even while incarcerated. You don't lose the fundamental right to marry while incarcerated so why should you lose the fundamental right to vote?
I'd like to see these laws challenged.
I have no problem with them not being able to vote while incarcerated, then again I would not allow them to marry either.
And while we're at it, let's also suspend their right to free speech, their protection against self incrimination, their right to a lawyer, their protections against cruel and unusual punishment....hell, let's go ahead and just eliminate their right to life altogether.
Felony-level criminals should lose the right to vote permanently as part of the penalty for their crime.
It's ridiculous to let such people choose the direction of the country.
Highly unconstitutional in my opinion.
Someone who steals a car when they are 17 because they were stupid should not be punished for the rest of their life.
A felony-level criminal can join the military and serve their country then they should be able to vote.
I don't think they should lose the right to vote at all, even while incarcerated. You don't lose the fundamental right to marry while incarcerated so why should you lose the fundamental right to vote?
I'd like to see these laws challenged.
I have no problem with them not being able to vote while incarcerated, then again I would not allow them to marry either.
And while we're at it, let's also suspend their right to free speech, their protection against self incrimination, their right to a lawyer, their protections against cruel and unusual punishment....hell, let's go ahead and just eliminate their right to life altogether.
That is what people like DOTR would like. No guns, no voting, no free speech, no private property.
You're no better. If you will arbitrarily remove one right just because you can, what's to stop yo from doing the same with other rights? Depriving someone of their rights as punishment for a crime must have a logical basis that contributes to the well being of society. If not, then it's nothing more than a petty tyranny.
