Oh oh, looks like Obama's Iran deal is collapsing.

[Bobby1250]

If this guy votes against it, it's over, because a big coalition will vote whichever way he does. And all signs are that he will. That is, if he's interested in being re elected.

Iran nuclear deal Growing signs Schumer will oppose it - POLITICO

Why is it Obama's deal? This was between Iran and the most powerful half dozen countries in the world?
If Republicans ruin this, they will make themselves look like morons and America look ridiculous. Course, after they last 40 years, you would think they would be used to that.

Ohhh, the propaganda is even worse than just singling 0bama out.

Now, the Republican Jewish Coalition is saying 0bama is "demonizing" poor Israel.

 

[Roudy]

You are forgetting about the hundreds of billions in frozen assets the Iranians are about to get for bamboozling a bunch of fools running this administration.

Will Iran Get Its Billions Back - US News

U.S. to Award Iran 11.9 Billion Through End of Nuke Talks Washington Free Beacon

Iran s 300 Billion Shakedown Foreign Policy

The US doesn't control "hundreds of billions" of frozen Iranian assets. The vast majority of those assets are held by France and the UK.

The amount that we control is pennies, comparitively.

Wrong, after the Shah was deposed in 1979 and the U.S. Embassy was attacked and diplomats hostage for over 500 days, over 20 billion of Iranian assets were initially frozen. These were assets previously owned by the Iranian govt. under the Shah. The frozen assets kept increasing as U.S. Govt discovered more and more held by Iranian govt officials using secret covers or fronts. And of course after the sanctions regime heated up, even more assets were seized. Why don't you look it up for yourself?

Obama Freezes Iranian Government Bank Assets in U.S. - Bloomberg Business

Obama Plan to Release 11.9B to Iran Slammed by Group of Senators

The assets frozen during the hostage crisis were "unfrozen" as soon as the hostages were released in 1981. Keep up.

The vast majority (65 billion or so) of frozen Iranian assets are held by European countries and not by the US - as can be seen by the fact that Iran has already gotten most of it back.

The hostages were released because Reagan sent a message before his inauguration that he will consider it an act of war. All frozen or seized assets have stayed frozen for the last 35 years.

You are laughably incorrect.

http://www.parstimes.com/history/algiers_accords.pdf

Yes there was a little bit of carrot associated. But the hostage takers were mostly afraid of what Reagan would do. Bush Sr. the ex spy chief made sure the Iranians understood that Reagan would rip them a new one. Since then the US has seized much more.
Treasury Designates Companies Tied to Iran s Bank Melli as Proliferators

 

[NotfooledbyW]

From the OP link: All you need to know, Schumer will vote to keep the deal alive and prevent another round of war in the Persian Gulf region.

"Schumer will “have the support of the majority of American Jews” if he backs the deal, said Jessica Rosenblum, a spokeswoman for J Street."

Read more: Iran nuclear deal Growing signs Schumer will oppose it - POLITICO

The headline from politico is bogus if you read what they actually wrote.

 

[Roudy]

If this guy votes against it, it's over, because a big coalition will vote whichever way he does. And all signs are that he will. That is, if he's interested in being re elected.

Iran nuclear deal Growing signs Schumer will oppose it - POLITICO

Why is it Obama's deal? This was between Iran and the most powerful half dozen countries in the world?
If Republicans ruin this, they will make themselves look like morons and America look ridiculous. Course, after they last 40 years, you would think they would be used to that.

Of course it's Obama's deal. Majority of congress and American people are against it. Obama even insulted and disrespected the congress by taking the deal to the UN first. On that alone the deal should be refused. Course, one Carter and now Obama is enough to cancel dozens of republican fuckups.

 

[Bobby1250]

From the OP link: All you need to know, Schumet will vote to keep the deal alive and prevent another round of war in the Persian Gulf region.

"Schumer will “have the support of the majority of American Jews” if he backs the deal, said Jessica Rosenblum, a spokeswoman for J Street."

Read more: Iran nuclear deal Growing signs Schumer will oppose it - POLITICO

Yep.

NEW POLL: Majority of American Jews Support Iran Nuclear Deal

60% For
40% Against

 

[Roudy]

From the OP link: All you need to know, Schumer will vote to keep the deal alive and prevent another round of war in the Persian Gulf region.

"Schumer will “have the support of the majority of American Jews” if he backs the deal, said Jessica Rosenblum, a spokeswoman for J Street."

Read more: Iran nuclear deal Growing signs Schumer will oppose it - POLITICO

The headline from politico is bogus if you read what they actually wrote.

Well, nobody knows how he will really vote, but if you're living in NY or keeping up with the news there, you know that if he wants his job back he better vote against it.

 

[Roudy]

From the OP link: All you need to know, Schumet will vote to keep the deal alive and prevent another round of war in the Persian Gulf region.

"Schumer will “have the support of the majority of American Jews” if he backs the deal, said Jessica Rosenblum, a spokeswoman for J Street."

Read more: Iran nuclear deal Growing signs Schumer will oppose it - POLITICO

Yep.

NEW POLL: Majority of American Jews Support Iran Nuclear Deal

60% For
40% Against

A poll conducted by J street? Engage flush.

 

[Roudy]

Here's the poll that truly counts:

A poll conducted by the well-respected Quinnipiac University and published on Monday, Aug. 3, reveals that American voters oppose by a margin of two to one the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action agreed to by U.S. negotiators and their partners in the P5+1, regarding Iran’s nuclear program.

Not surprisingly, party membership is a strong predictor of whether a voter supports the deal or not, but even only a slight majority of Democrats favor the deal. The overall split is 57 percent against the deal, to 27 percent in favor.

Republicans oppose the deal 86 to 3 percent, while Democrats support it 52 to 32 percent.

Interestingly, men and women responded quite similarly: men oppose the deal 59 to 30 percent, and women oppose it 56 to 27 percent.

The assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Poll, Tim Malloy, said “There’s not a lot of love for the proposed nuclear deal with Iran. Only a bare majority of Democrats support the pact.”

The pollsters reached 1,644 registered voters by phone between July 23 – 28, across the country. The poll had a margin of error of +/- 2.4 percent.

 

[Bobby1250]

From the OP link: All you need to know, Schumet will vote to keep the deal alive and prevent another round of war in the Persian Gulf region.

"Schumer will “have the support of the majority of American Jews” if he backs the deal, said Jessica Rosenblum, a spokeswoman for J Street."

Read more: Iran nuclear deal Growing signs Schumer will oppose it - POLITICO

Yep.

NEW POLL: Majority of American Jews Support Iran Nuclear Deal

60% For
40% Against

A poll conducted by J street? Engage flush.

So?

 

[Bobby1250]

Here's the poll that truly counts:

A poll conducted by the well-respected Quinnipiac University and published on Monday, Aug. 3, reveals that American voters oppose by a margin of two to one the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action agreed to by U.S. negotiators and their partners in the P5+1, regarding Iran’s nuclear program.

Not surprisingly, party membership is a strong predictor of whether a voter supports the deal or not, but even only a slight majority of Democrats favor the deal. The overall split is 57 percent against the deal, to 27 percent in favor.

Republicans oppose the deal 86 to 3 percent, while Democrats support it 52 to 32 percent.

Interestingly, men and women responded quite similarly: men oppose the deal 59 to 30 percent, and women oppose it 56 to 27 percent.

The assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Poll, Tim Malloy, said “There’s not a lot of love for the proposed nuclear deal with Iran. Only a bare majority of Democrats support the pact.”

The pollsters reached 1,644 registered voters by phone between July 23 – 28, across the country. The poll had a margin of error of +/- 2.4 percent.

A poll conducted by Quinnipiac University? Engage flush.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

It would sure be nice but I'd say it's a longshot Chuck takes his head out of Barry''s ass.

My bet is that Chucky boy will vote for Israel.

Obama' reign is almost over.

And Schumer's base is NY jews. .....

New York's 9th district was already lost to the Republicans over Obama's anti Israel stance. There's real danger here for Chuck-U.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

Oh, by the way....we are now expanding bombing campaigns in Syria to assist "rebels" (read terrorists) there. I don't hear a peep out of any of the Chicken Littles purportedly so afraid of war in Iran even though Bashar al Asaad is a client of Iran and Iran is not likely to look kindly on this. Obama expands bombing in Syria to support U.S.-backed rebels - LA Times

No one is afraid of war in Iran. They are afraid this sham deal will fall through and
it will be a black mark (excuse the expression) on the record of Barry Hussein Obama and it will be that much harder for Iran to get their bomb.

Who has claimed to be "afraid" of war with Iran?

Are you kidding? It's a very popular theme. If we don't agree to the Obama/Iran deal then war is the only option. Look around.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

The US doesn't control "hundreds of billions" of frozen Iranian assets. The vast majority of those assets are held by France and the UK.

The amount that we control is pennies, comparitively.

Wrong, after the Shah was deposed in 1979 and the U.S. Embassy was attacked and diplomats hostage for over 500 days, over 20 billion of Iranian assets were initially frozen. These were assets previously owned by the Iranian govt. under the Shah. The frozen assets kept increasing as U.S. Govt discovered more and more held by Iranian govt officials using secret covers or fronts. And of course after the sanctions regime heated up, even more assets were seized. Why don't you look it up for yourself?

Obama Freezes Iranian Government Bank Assets in U.S. - Bloomberg Business

Obama Plan to Release 11.9B to Iran Slammed by Group of Senators

The assets frozen during the hostage crisis were "unfrozen" as soon as the hostages were released in 1981. Keep up.

The vast majority (65 billion or so) of frozen Iranian assets are held by European countries and not by the US - as can be seen by the fact that Iran has already gotten most of it back.

The hostages were released because Reagan sent a message before his inauguration that he will consider it an act of war. All frozen or seized assets have stayed frozen for the last 35 years.

You are laughably incorrect.

http://www.parstimes.com/history/algiers_accords.pdf

Yes there was a little bit of carrot associated. But the hostage takers were mostly afraid of what Reagan would do. Bush Sr. the ex spy chief made sure the Iranians understood that Reagan would rip them a new one. Since then the US has seized much more.
Treasury Designates Companies Tied to Iran s Bank Melli as Proliferators

First of all: The "Reagan was so manly and powerful that all he had to do was look at Iran and they capitulated" meme is horseshit.

Second, no matter how many links you find from decades ago talking about Iranian assets frozen in the US, it's not going to change the fact that we hold very little of the total of Iranian frozen assets. Read the news, dude - much of those assets have already been unfrozen.

At least you're admitting that you were completely incorrect in saying that the assets frozen during the hostage crisis were unfrozen 35 years ago.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Oh, by the way....we are now expanding bombing campaigns in Syria to assist "rebels" (read terrorists) there. I don't hear a peep out of any of the Chicken Littles purportedly so afraid of war in Iran even though Bashar al Asaad is a client of Iran and Iran is not likely to look kindly on this. Obama expands bombing in Syria to support U.S.-backed rebels - LA Times

No one is afraid of war in Iran. They are afraid this sham deal will fall through and
it will be a black mark (excuse the expression) on the record of Barry Hussein Obama and it will be that much harder for Iran to get their bomb.

Who has claimed to be "afraid" of war with Iran?

Are you kidding? It's a very popular theme. If we don't agree to the Obama/Iran deal then war is the only option. Look around.

Without a deal, war is the "only option" for what? How does that imply being "afraid" of war?

Why don't you try to articulate your own opinion, rather than attempting to argue against straw men?

 

[theDoctorisIn]

It would sure be nice but I'd say it's a longshot Chuck takes his head out of Barry''s ass.

My bet is that Chucky boy will vote for Israel.

Obama' reign is almost over.

And Schumer's base is NY jews. .....

New York's 9th district was already lost to the Republicans over Obama's anti Israel stance. There's real danger here for Chuck-U.

New York s 9th congressional district - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Yvette Clarke is not a Republican.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

It would sure be nice but I'd say it's a longshot Chuck takes his head out of Barry''s ass.

My bet is that Chucky boy will vote for Israel.

Obama' reign is almost over.

And Schumer's base is NY jews. .....

New York's 9th district was already lost to the Republicans over Obama's anti Israel stance. There's real danger here for Chuck-U.

New York s 9th congressional district - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Yvette Clarke is not a Republican.

I'm talking about the Bob Turner upset of 2011. But then, you already knew that.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

It would sure be nice but I'd say it's a longshot Chuck takes his head out of Barry''s ass.

My bet is that Chucky boy will vote for Israel.

Obama' reign is almost over.

And Schumer's base is NY jews. .....

New York's 9th district was already lost to the Republicans over Obama's anti Israel stance. There's real danger here for Chuck-U.

New York s 9th congressional district - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Yvette Clarke is not a Republican.

I'm talking about the Bob Turner upset of 2011. But then, you already knew that.

...and where is Bob Turner now?

The only reason the Dems lost the 9th was Anthony Weiner's penis. Israel had nothing to do with it.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

It would sure be nice but I'd say it's a longshot Chuck takes his head out of Barry''s ass.

My bet is that Chucky boy will vote for Israel.

Obama' reign is almost over.

And Schumer's base is NY jews. .....

New York's 9th district was already lost to the Republicans over Obama's anti Israel stance. There's real danger here for Chuck-U.

New York s 9th congressional district - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Yvette Clarke is not a Republican.

I'm talking about the Bob Turner upset of 2011. But then, you already knew that.

...and where is Bob Turner now?

The only reason the Dems lost the 9th was Anthony Weiner's penis. Israel had nothing to do with it.

Nonsense. There was an uproar from Jews all over New York over Obama's handling of Israel, particularly trying to get them to give up land. Turner rode that wave, it was the pivotal issue of his campaign.

Stop lying, Leftists!

 

[rdean]

In this case Israel's and America's best interests are the same (as is usually the case). Let's hope Schumer wakes up and helps kill this wang sucking tribute to the Mullahs of Iran Obama has created. It's a very, very bad deal for the U.S.

Iran isn't a threat to America.

And I could care less about Israel. .....

Republicans have terrorized America into believing otherwise.

 

[rdean]

Wrong, after the Shah was deposed in 1979 and the U.S. Embassy was attacked and diplomats hostage for over 500 days, over 20 billion of Iranian assets were initially frozen. These were assets previously owned by the Iranian govt. under the Shah. The frozen assets kept increasing as U.S. Govt discovered more and more held by Iranian govt officials using secret covers or fronts. And of course after the sanctions regime heated up, even more assets were seized. Why don't you look it up for yourself?

Obama Freezes Iranian Government Bank Assets in U.S. - Bloomberg Business

Obama Plan to Release 11.9B to Iran Slammed by Group of Senators

The assets frozen during the hostage crisis were "unfrozen" as soon as the hostages were released in 1981. Keep up.

The vast majority (65 billion or so) of frozen Iranian assets are held by European countries and not by the US - as can be seen by the fact that Iran has already gotten most of it back.

The hostages were released because Reagan sent a message before his inauguration that he will consider it an act of war. All frozen or seized assets have stayed frozen for the last 35 years.

You are laughably incorrect.

http://www.parstimes.com/history/algiers_accords.pdf

Yes there was a little bit of carrot associated. But the hostage takers were mostly afraid of what Reagan would do. Bush Sr. the ex spy chief made sure the Iranians understood that Reagan would rip them a new one. Since then the US has seized much more.
Treasury Designates Companies Tied to Iran s Bank Melli as Proliferators

First of all: The "Reagan was so manly and powerful that all he had to do was look at Iran and they capitulated" meme is horseshit.

Second, no matter how many links you find from decades ago talking about Iranian assets frozen in the US, it's not going to change the fact that we hold very little of the total of Iranian frozen assets. Read the news, dude - much of those assets have already been unfrozen.

At least you're admitting that you were completely incorrect in saying that the assets frozen during the hostage crisis were unfrozen 35 years ago.

Manly and powerful? Fer-in-ners fainted at the sight of him?