Oh oh, looks like Obama's Iran deal is collapsing.

[theDoctorisIn]

My bet is that Chucky boy will vote for Israel.

Obama' reign is almost over.

And Schumer's base is NY jews. .....

New York's 9th district was already lost to the Republicans over Obama's anti Israel stance. There's real danger here for Chuck-U.

New York s 9th congressional district - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Yvette Clarke is not a Republican.

I'm talking about the Bob Turner upset of 2011. But then, you already knew that.

...and where is Bob Turner now?

The only reason the Dems lost the 9th was Anthony Weiner's penis. Israel had nothing to do with it.

Nonsense. There was an uproar from Jews all over New York over Obama's handling of Israel, particularly trying to get them to give up land. Turner rode that wave, it was the pivotal issue of his campaign.

Stop lying, Leftists!

You're welcome to believe whatever you want to believe, if it helps you get through the night.

But you might want to ask yourself a question - if the 9th district was so anti-Obama based on Israel, how come that district re-elected Obama by a 10 point margin less than a year later?

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

New York's 9th district was already lost to the Republicans over Obama's anti Israel stance. There's real danger here for Chuck-U.

New York s 9th congressional district - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Yvette Clarke is not a Republican.

I'm talking about the Bob Turner upset of 2011. But then, you already knew that.

...and where is Bob Turner now?

The only reason the Dems lost the 9th was Anthony Weiner's penis. Israel had nothing to do with it.

Nonsense. There was an uproar from Jews all over New York over Obama's handling of Israel, particularly trying to get them to give up land. Turner rode that wave, it was the pivotal issue of his campaign.

Stop lying, Leftists!

You're welcome to believe whatever you want to believe, if it helps you get through the night.

But you might want to ask yourself a question - if the 9th district was so anti-Obama based on Israel, how come that district re-elected Obama by a 10 point margin less than a year later?

Short memories.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

New York s 9th congressional district - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Yvette Clarke is not a Republican.

I'm talking about the Bob Turner upset of 2011. But then, you already knew that.

...and where is Bob Turner now?

The only reason the Dems lost the 9th was Anthony Weiner's penis. Israel had nothing to do with it.

Nonsense. There was an uproar from Jews all over New York over Obama's handling of Israel, particularly trying to get them to give up land. Turner rode that wave, it was the pivotal issue of his campaign.

Stop lying, Leftists!

You're welcome to believe whatever you want to believe, if it helps you get through the night.

But you might want to ask yourself a question - if the 9th district was so anti-Obama based on Israel, how come that district re-elected Obama by a 10 point margin less than a year later?

Short memories.

So you think that the most orthodox Jewish district in New York forgot that Obama was "anti-Israel" in the 6 months between the special election and the Presidential election?

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

They say memory is the first thing to go...

 

[Roudy]

Here's the poll that truly counts:

A poll conducted by the well-respected Quinnipiac University and published on Monday, Aug. 3, reveals that American voters oppose by a margin of two to one the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action agreed to by U.S. negotiators and their partners in the P5+1, regarding Iran’s nuclear program.

Not surprisingly, party membership is a strong predictor of whether a voter supports the deal or not, but even only a slight majority of Democrats favor the deal. The overall split is 57 percent against the deal, to 27 percent in favor.

Republicans oppose the deal 86 to 3 percent, while Democrats support it 52 to 32 percent.

Interestingly, men and women responded quite similarly: men oppose the deal 59 to 30 percent, and women oppose it 56 to 27 percent.

The assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Poll, Tim Malloy, said “There’s not a lot of love for the proposed nuclear deal with Iran. Only a bare majority of Democrats support the pact.”

The pollsters reached 1,644 registered voters by phone between July 23 – 28, across the country. The poll had a margin of error of +/- 2.4 percent.

A poll conducted by Quinnipiac University? Engage flush.

Hold on, I'll pull on your ear.

 

[Roudy]

Wrong, after the Shah was deposed in 1979 and the U.S. Embassy was attacked and diplomats hostage for over 500 days, over 20 billion of Iranian assets were initially frozen. These were assets previously owned by the Iranian govt. under the Shah. The frozen assets kept increasing as U.S. Govt discovered more and more held by Iranian govt officials using secret covers or fronts. And of course after the sanctions regime heated up, even more assets were seized. Why don't you look it up for yourself?

Obama Freezes Iranian Government Bank Assets in U.S. - Bloomberg Business

Obama Plan to Release 11.9B to Iran Slammed by Group of Senators

The assets frozen during the hostage crisis were "unfrozen" as soon as the hostages were released in 1981. Keep up.

The vast majority (65 billion or so) of frozen Iranian assets are held by European countries and not by the US - as can be seen by the fact that Iran has already gotten most of it back.

The hostages were released because Reagan sent a message before his inauguration that he will consider it an act of war. All frozen or seized assets have stayed frozen for the last 35 years.

You are laughably incorrect.

http://www.parstimes.com/history/algiers_accords.pdf

Yes there was a little bit of carrot associated. But the hostage takers were mostly afraid of what Reagan would do. Bush Sr. the ex spy chief made sure the Iranians understood that Reagan would rip them a new one. Since then the US has seized much more.
Treasury Designates Companies Tied to Iran s Bank Melli as Proliferators

First of all: The "Reagan was so manly and powerful that all he had to do was look at Iran and they capitulated" meme is horseshit.

Second, no matter how many links you find from decades ago talking about Iranian assets frozen in the US, it's not going to change the fact that we hold very little of the total of Iranian frozen assets. Read the news, dude - much of those assets have already been unfrozen.

At least you're admitting that you were completely incorrect in saying that the assets frozen during the hostage crisis were unfrozen 35 years ago.

Yeah yeah yeah. Iranians released the hostages just hours after Reagan's inauguration speech. You do the math. If they had nothing to be afraid of they would have dragged it for another two years with him as well. They knew not to fuck with Reagan, he wasn't a paper tiger like Carter.

 

[Roudy]

At this point the anti Iran deal sentiment has crossed across all party lines and ethnicities.

 

[Roudy]

It would sure be nice but I'd say it's a longshot Chuck takes his head out of Barry''s ass.

My bet is that Chucky boy will vote for Israel.

Obama' reign is almost over.

And Schumer's base is NY jews. .....

New York's 9th district was already lost to the Republicans over Obama's anti Israel stance. There's real danger here for Chuck-U.

New York s 9th congressional district - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Yvette Clarke is not a Republican.

Redistricting don't count:

Prior to 2013, the district consisted primarily of middle-class whiteneighborhoods, including large Jewish, Italian, Irish, and Russian populations, in southern Brooklyn and south central Queens. Before redistricting, the Queens Tribune found that the district increasingly swung Republican following the September 11 attacks in 2001, when many police and firefighters were lost from the Rockaways.[1] Its rightward shift was also attributed to the increasing tendency of Orthodox Jews to vote for Republicans. [2] Its representation in Congress was reliably Democratic for decades, electing prominent liberals such as Chuck Schumer and Anthony Weiner and, prior to that, Emanuel Celler and Elizabeth Holtzman (when the district was differently numbered). Anthony D. Weiner was Congressman from 1999 until he resigned on June 21, 2011. Republican Bob Turner succeeded Weiner after winning the special election on September 13, 2011. However, the previous 9th District was eliminated after New York lost two districts in 2010 redistricting, and its territory was divided among several neighboring districts.

After redistricting, Yvette Clarke now represents the district. The district is majority African-American and includes most of the territory previously within the 11th District. It includes significant portions of Midwood, Brooklyn, however, that were previously within the 9th.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

I'm talking about the Bob Turner upset of 2011. But then, you already knew that.

...and where is Bob Turner now?

The only reason the Dems lost the 9th was Anthony Weiner's penis. Israel had nothing to do with it.

Nonsense. There was an uproar from Jews all over New York over Obama's handling of Israel, particularly trying to get them to give up land. Turner rode that wave, it was the pivotal issue of his campaign.

Stop lying, Leftists!

You're welcome to believe whatever you want to believe, if it helps you get through the night.

But you might want to ask yourself a question - if the 9th district was so anti-Obama based on Israel, how come that district re-elected Obama by a 10 point margin less than a year later?

Short memories.

So you think that the most orthodox Jewish district in New York forgot that Obama was "anti-Israel" in the 6 months between the special election and the Presidential election?

Turner didn't run on Anthony's weiner.

 

[Roudy]

The assets frozen during the hostage crisis were "unfrozen" as soon as the hostages were released in 1981. Keep up.

The vast majority (65 billion or so) of frozen Iranian assets are held by European countries and not by the US - as can be seen by the fact that Iran has already gotten most of it back.

The hostages were released because Reagan sent a message before his inauguration that he will consider it an act of war. All frozen or seized assets have stayed frozen for the last 35 years.

You are laughably incorrect.

http://www.parstimes.com/history/algiers_accords.pdf

Yes there was a little bit of carrot associated. But the hostage takers were mostly afraid of what Reagan would do. Bush Sr. the ex spy chief made sure the Iranians understood that Reagan would rip them a new one. Since then the US has seized much more.
Treasury Designates Companies Tied to Iran s Bank Melli as Proliferators

First of all: The "Reagan was so manly and powerful that all he had to do was look at Iran and they capitulated" meme is horseshit.

Second, no matter how many links you find from decades ago talking about Iranian assets frozen in the US, it's not going to change the fact that we hold very little of the total of Iranian frozen assets. Read the news, dude - much of those assets have already been unfrozen.

At least you're admitting that you were completely incorrect in saying that the assets frozen during the hostage crisis were unfrozen 35 years ago.

Manly and powerful? Fer-in-ners fainted at the sight of him?

Manly enough that the hostages were released the day of Reagan's inauguration.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

The assets frozen during the hostage crisis were "unfrozen" as soon as the hostages were released in 1981. Keep up.

The vast majority (65 billion or so) of frozen Iranian assets are held by European countries and not by the US - as can be seen by the fact that Iran has already gotten most of it back.

The hostages were released because Reagan sent a message before his inauguration that he will consider it an act of war. All frozen or seized assets have stayed frozen for the last 35 years.

You are laughably incorrect.

http://www.parstimes.com/history/algiers_accords.pdf

Yes there was a little bit of carrot associated. But the hostage takers were mostly afraid of what Reagan would do. Bush Sr. the ex spy chief made sure the Iranians understood that Reagan would rip them a new one. Since then the US has seized much more.
Treasury Designates Companies Tied to Iran s Bank Melli as Proliferators

First of all: The "Reagan was so manly and powerful that all he had to do was look at Iran and they capitulated" meme is horseshit.

Second, no matter how many links you find from decades ago talking about Iranian assets frozen in the US, it's not going to change the fact that we hold very little of the total of Iranian frozen assets. Read the news, dude - much of those assets have already been unfrozen.

At least you're admitting that you were completely incorrect in saying that the assets frozen during the hostage crisis were unfrozen 35 years ago.

Yeah yeah yeah. Iranians released the hostages just hours after Reagan's inauguration speech. You do the math. If they had nothing to be afraid of they would have dragged it for another two years with him as well. They knew not to fuck with Reagan, he wasn't a paper tiger like Carter.

Your cute little fantasies about Reagan notwithstanding, the hostages were released on the day of Reagan's inauguration to spite Carter, not because they were "afraid" of Reagan.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

It would sure be nice but I'd say it's a longshot Chuck takes his head out of Barry''s ass.

My bet is that Chucky boy will vote for Israel.

Obama' reign is almost over.

And Schumer's base is NY jews. .....

New York's 9th district was already lost to the Republicans over Obama's anti Israel stance. There's real danger here for Chuck-U.

New York s 9th congressional district - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Yvette Clarke is not a Republican.

Redistricting don't count:

Prior to 2013, the district consisted primarily of middle-class whiteneighborhoods, including large Jewish, Italian, Irish, and Russian populations, in southern Brooklyn and south central Queens. Before redistricting, the Queens Tribune found that the district increasingly swung Republican following the September 11 attacks in 2001, when many police and firefighters were lost from the Rockaways.[1] Its rightward shift was also attributed to the increasing tendency of Orthodox Jews to vote for Republicans. [2] Its representation in Congress was reliably Democratic for decades, electing prominent liberals such as Chuck Schumer and Anthony Weiner and, prior to that, Emanuel Celler and Elizabeth Holtzman (when the district was differently numbered). Anthony D. Weiner was Congressman from 1999 until he resigned on June 21, 2011. Republican Bob Turner succeeded Weiner after winning the special election on September 13, 2011. However, the previous 9th District was eliminated after New York lost two districts in 2010 redistricting, and its territory was divided among several neighboring districts.

After redistricting, Yvette Clarke now represents the district. The district is majority African-American and includes most of the territory previously within the 11th District. It includes significant portions of Midwood, Brooklyn, however, that were previously within the 9th.

All of those areas that had been part of that district still went to Obama by double digits in 2012.

The "new" district 9 went to Obama by more than a 50% margin.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

...and where is Bob Turner now?

The only reason the Dems lost the 9th was Anthony Weiner's penis. Israel had nothing to do with it.

Nonsense. There was an uproar from Jews all over New York over Obama's handling of Israel, particularly trying to get them to give up land. Turner rode that wave, it was the pivotal issue of his campaign.

Stop lying, Leftists!

You're welcome to believe whatever you want to believe, if it helps you get through the night.

But you might want to ask yourself a question - if the 9th district was so anti-Obama based on Israel, how come that district re-elected Obama by a 10 point margin less than a year later?

Short memories.

So you think that the most orthodox Jewish district in New York forgot that Obama was "anti-Israel" in the 6 months between the special election and the Presidential election?

Turner didn't run on Anthony's weiner.

Had Anthony not shown his weiner to the world, he'd still be a Congressman from that district, and Bob Turner would be even more of a nobody than he is now.

 

[Roudy]

The hostages were released because Reagan sent a message before his inauguration that he will consider it an act of war. All frozen or seized assets have stayed frozen for the last 35 years.

You are laughably incorrect.

http://www.parstimes.com/history/algiers_accords.pdf

Yes there was a little bit of carrot associated. But the hostage takers were mostly afraid of what Reagan would do. Bush Sr. the ex spy chief made sure the Iranians understood that Reagan would rip them a new one. Since then the US has seized much more.
Treasury Designates Companies Tied to Iran s Bank Melli as Proliferators

First of all: The "Reagan was so manly and powerful that all he had to do was look at Iran and they capitulated" meme is horseshit.

Second, no matter how many links you find from decades ago talking about Iranian assets frozen in the US, it's not going to change the fact that we hold very little of the total of Iranian frozen assets. Read the news, dude - much of those assets have already been unfrozen.

At least you're admitting that you were completely incorrect in saying that the assets frozen during the hostage crisis were unfrozen 35 years ago.

Yeah yeah yeah. Iranians released the hostages just hours after Reagan's inauguration speech. You do the math. If they had nothing to be afraid of they would have dragged it for another two years with him as well. They knew not to fuck with Reagan, he wasn't a paper tiger like Carter.

Your cute little fantasies about Reagan notwithstanding, the hostages were released on the day of Reagan's inauguration to spite Carter, not because they were "afraid" of Reagan.

Riiiight. Sure. Go ahead and believe that as an excuse for the humiliation America and Carter underwent for almost two years. Yes, the Iranians had no reason to spite Reagan, as the new leader of the great satan. You truly don't understand the mindset and what they respond to in that part of the world. Look at how they are mocking and ridiculing Obama and America now. Happens when you have a weak leader every time.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Nonsense. There was an uproar from Jews all over New York over Obama's handling of Israel, particularly trying to get them to give up land. Turner rode that wave, it was the pivotal issue of his campaign.

Stop lying, Leftists!

You're welcome to believe whatever you want to believe, if it helps you get through the night.

But you might want to ask yourself a question - if the 9th district was so anti-Obama based on Israel, how come that district re-elected Obama by a 10 point margin less than a year later?

Short memories.

So you think that the most orthodox Jewish district in New York forgot that Obama was "anti-Israel" in the 6 months between the special election and the Presidential election?

Turner didn't run on Anthony's weiner.

Had Anthony not shown his weiner to the world, he'd still be a Congressman from that district, and Bob Turner would be even more of a nobody than he is now.

Yet the Democrats were unable to hold on to that seat. You would think it would be easy if the district were as Democrat as you say it is.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

You are laughably incorrect.

http://www.parstimes.com/history/algiers_accords.pdf

Yes there was a little bit of carrot associated. But the hostage takers were mostly afraid of what Reagan would do. Bush Sr. the ex spy chief made sure the Iranians understood that Reagan would rip them a new one. Since then the US has seized much more.
Treasury Designates Companies Tied to Iran s Bank Melli as Proliferators

First of all: The "Reagan was so manly and powerful that all he had to do was look at Iran and they capitulated" meme is horseshit.

Second, no matter how many links you find from decades ago talking about Iranian assets frozen in the US, it's not going to change the fact that we hold very little of the total of Iranian frozen assets. Read the news, dude - much of those assets have already been unfrozen.

At least you're admitting that you were completely incorrect in saying that the assets frozen during the hostage crisis were unfrozen 35 years ago.

Yeah yeah yeah. Iranians released the hostages just hours after Reagan's inauguration speech. You do the math. If they had nothing to be afraid of they would have dragged it for another two years with him as well. They knew not to fuck with Reagan, he wasn't a paper tiger like Carter.

Your cute little fantasies about Reagan notwithstanding, the hostages were released on the day of Reagan's inauguration to spite Carter, not because they were "afraid" of Reagan.

Riiiight. Sure. Go ahead and believe that as an excuse to humiliate America and Carter for almost two years. Yes, the Iranians had no reason to spite Reagan, as the new leader of the great satan. You truly don't understand the mindset and what they respond to.

Iran wanted the sanctions gone, and their money back. They'd already made a deal to release the hostages, as I posted already - Reagan had nothing to do with it.

They delayed releasing the hostages for a few weeks to spite Carter, not because they were scared of Saint Reagan the Manly.

 

[Roudy]

Nonsense. There was an uproar from Jews all over New York over Obama's handling of Israel, particularly trying to get them to give up land. Turner rode that wave, it was the pivotal issue of his campaign.

Stop lying, Leftists!

You're welcome to believe whatever you want to believe, if it helps you get through the night.

But you might want to ask yourself a question - if the 9th district was so anti-Obama based on Israel, how come that district re-elected Obama by a 10 point margin less than a year later?

Short memories.

So you think that the most orthodox Jewish district in New York forgot that Obama was "anti-Israel" in the 6 months between the special election and the Presidential election?

Turner didn't run on Anthony's weiner.

Had Anthony not shown his weiner to the world, he'd still be a Congressman from that district, and Bob Turner would be even more of a nobody than he is now.

That may have been a factor but your link also says the demographics also started changing.

 

[AvgGuyIA]

In this case Israel's and America's best interests are the same (as is usually the case). Let's hope Schumer wakes up and helps kill this wang sucking tribute to the Mullahs of Iran Obama has created. It's a very, very bad deal for the U.S.

Iran isn't a threat to America.

And I could care less about Israel. .....

the
They chant "death to America" because they like us?

 

[theDoctorisIn]

You're welcome to believe whatever you want to believe, if it helps you get through the night.

But you might want to ask yourself a question - if the 9th district was so anti-Obama based on Israel, how come that district re-elected Obama by a 10 point margin less than a year later?

Short memories.

So you think that the most orthodox Jewish district in New York forgot that Obama was "anti-Israel" in the 6 months between the special election and the Presidential election?

Turner didn't run on Anthony's weiner.

Had Anthony not shown his weiner to the world, he'd still be a Congressman from that district, and Bob Turner would be even more of a nobody than he is now.

Yet the Democrats were unable to hold on to that seat. You would think it would be easy if the district were as Democrat as you say it is.

Strange things happen in special elections, particularly ones with insanely low turnout, as that one had.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

You're welcome to believe whatever you want to believe, if it helps you get through the night.

But you might want to ask yourself a question - if the 9th district was so anti-Obama based on Israel, how come that district re-elected Obama by a 10 point margin less than a year later?

Short memories.

So you think that the most orthodox Jewish district in New York forgot that Obama was "anti-Israel" in the 6 months between the special election and the Presidential election?

Turner didn't run on Anthony's weiner.

Had Anthony not shown his weiner to the world, he'd still be a Congressman from that district, and Bob Turner would be even more of a nobody than he is now.

That may have been a factor but your link also says the demographics also started changing.

What link?

I haven't posted any links on NY 9.