One Term Donnie

[MisterBeale]

We can only hope the Ayatollahs show restraint. You know? The Ayatollahs Americans are told are blood thirsty animals. If they don’t, here comes WWIII.

Crazy Don has really fucked up. Ironic that we have to hope the leaders of Iran keep their heads.

You watch way too much television news.

I don’t watch any. I’m just a lot smarter than you.

lol we’ll see.

OTH. ..

This all could be one giant elaborate ruse of Trump's to outsmart the Deep State and the Military?

If after it is all done, if Gipper IS right, and the Iranians show restraint, and the U.S. ends up having to leave, not only Iraq, but Syria and possibly Afghanistan as well, doesn't Trump get what he has always wanted, over and above, Israel, the Military, the Deep State and all the generals?

After U.S. Strike On Iraqi Forces Its Troops Will (Again) Have To Leave
MoA - After U.S. Strike On Iraqi Forces Its Troops Will (Again) Have To Leave

". . . There are some 5,000 U.S. soldiers in Iraq in bases which also house 10,000nds of Iraqi soldiers and PMF troops. Revenge attacks are now inevitable:

In the aftermath of the American strikes, Iraqi Prime Minister Adil Abdul-Mahdi said, “We have already confirmed our rejection of any unilateral action by coalition forces or any other forces inside Iraq. We consider it a violation of Iraq’s sovereignty and a dangerous escalation that threatens the security of Iraq and the region,” according to a statement released on Iraqi state television.
Abdul-Mahdi now finds himself facing the nightmare possibility of Iranian-linked paramilitaries, whose political wings hold enormous sway over his government, going to war with American forces on Iraqi territory, which would compound a disastrous few months in which the deaths of hundreds of protestors have been laid at his feet, prompting him to hand in his resignation to parliament.


The coming days and weeks will answer a number of questions about how this perilous situation will play out, primarily how far are the paramilitaries willing to act upon their rhetoric which has endlessly stated that the American presence in Iraq is a continuation of the occupation, in addition to their readiness to take military action in order to force out the Americans, “once again”.


The U.S. and Israel have already killed hundreds of Iraqi forces that are aligned with Iran. But these were the most egregious strikes. There is no doubt. The U.S. forces will have to (again) leave Iraq:

Brasco_Aad @Brasco_Aad - 19:55 UTC · Dec 29, 2019
Iraqi PMU Asai'b Ahl al-Haq statement on the American attack on Iraq tonight:
''The American military presence has become a burden for the State and a source of aggression against our forces and therefore it has become mandatory for all of us to expel them from Iraq.''
U.S. President Donald Trump had declared that he wants U.S. troops to leave the Middle East. But the 'deep state', the Pentagon and State Department bureaucracy, have resisted any such move:

Pompeo, Esper and Gen. Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, flew to Palm Beach, Florida, after the operation to brief President Donald Trump.
Esper said they discussed with Trump “other options that are available” to respond to Iran.
...
Trump was at Mar-a-Lago but did not appear with his top national security officials. After Pompeo and Esper spoke, the president traveled to his private golf club in West Palm Beach. The White House did not immediately say why Trump returned to the club after spending nearly six hours there earlier Sunday.


Yesterday's attacks guarantee that all U.S. troops will have to leave Iraq and will thereby also lose their supply lines to Syria.


One wonders if that was the real intent of those strikes."

That’s a very optimistic theory. I hope it’s right, but fear it isn’t. I don’t believe Donnie is that smart.

I agree.

More than likely, the gang of eight had always known about this, since Israel gave the coordinates of the assassination.

It is my suspicion, that this is the true reason these articles of impeachment have been held up. Blackmail? Trump has made clear he doesn't have an interest in more war, so how do you get him to engage in nation building and being like previous presidents? Perhaps he was always lying, but he was so consistent throughout Obama and Bush. How do you get him to do the bidding of the dogs of war? It seems to be the exact reverse of everything he has criticized the previous administrations for. It is a complete continuation of establishment policy and a reversal of everything he has said for 30 years.

This antagonism has been planned. However, I just don't think Iran will take the bait.

 

[gipper]

That’s right. He won’t be re-elected. His cowardly and enormously stupid cold blooded killing of the general has needlessly inflamed the region, and now Americans will die.

He campaigned on nonintervention, just as his two lying predecessors did, but now we know he too is a liar.

Donnie just made Sniify Joe look like a foreign policy expert. God help us.

So what was an Iranian general doing in Iraq?

Attending the funeral of the 25 Iraqi militia soldiers murdered by your government. He also was to meet the president of Iraq, to discuss a peace plan involving all parties in Iraq.

Why don’t you know this?

Why would he be attending funerals for Iraqis?

He was there to lead the riot against our embassy and attempt to turn it into another Benghazi.

“Peace negotiations”, uh huh.

Come on. Get informed or stop posting.

Iran taunted President Trump, saying “You can’t do anything”, referring to the attacks on the embassy orchestrated by Iran.

Why would they say that if they were innocent of wrongdoing in Iraq?

Did you know the general flew commercial from Syria to Baghdad? Do well known terrorists fly commercial under their real name?

Why would the USA military work with the general to fight ISIS in Syria, if he is a murderer of Americans.

Please refute or be a dupe.

 

[Care4all]

That’s right. He won’t be re-elected. His cowardly and enormously stupid cold blooded killing of the general has needlessly inflamed the region, and now Americans will die.

He campaigned on nonintervention, just as his two lying predecessors did, but now we know he too is a liar.

Donnie just made Sniify Joe look like a foreign policy expert. God help us.

Good job on questioning the official story regarding the killing of Soleimani, the war hawk establishment in Washington never bats an eye about telling the BIG LIE in order to get their way, it isn't the guy in the Oval Office you have to worry about, it's the military industrial complex and all its warmongering sycophants that inhabit Washington that are the real problem. Personally I don't buy the story coming out of Washington and being parroted by the media, too many things don't make sense about this.

However I think you're probably mistaken regarding the effect this will have on Donny's re-election chances; Georgey Boy campaigned on non-interventionism and no nation building yet started a war on blatantly false premises and cruised to re-election without a hitch, O'Nimrod wasn't much better, he talked a good game but when it came time to shed blood overseas he kowtowed to War Inc. like the good little politician he is and was easily re-elected.

All in all this probably helps Donny get re-elected since the American people just love it when a President goes all John Wayne and starts killing evil foreigners with smart bombs.

"We like war! We're a war-like people! We like war because we're good at it! You know why we're good at it? Cause we get a lot of practice. This country's only 200 years old and already, we've had 10 major wars. We average a major war every 20 years in this country so we're good at it! And it's a good thing we are; we're not very good at anything else anymore! Huh? Can't build a decent car, can't make a TV set or a VCR worth a fuck, got no steel industry left, can't educate our young people, can't get health care to our old people, but we can bomb the shit out of your country all right! Huh? Especially if your country is full of brown people; oh we like that don't we? That's our hobby! That's our new job in the world: bombing brown people. Iraq, Panama, Grenada, Libya, you got some brown people in your country, tell them to watch the fuck out or we'll goddamn bomb them!" -- George Carlin

He might get reelected, but whether valid or not, I would not underestimate how strongly the Democrats believe he is an absolute danger to our democratic Republic, to our Nation!!!

The fact that Democrats believe he is "an absolute danger to our democratic Republic" is completely irrelevant since they only believe that because he has an "R" behind his name instead of "D". If Donny had a "D" behind his name and was doing EXACTLY the same things he's doing now it would be the Democrats licking his boots and the Republicans believing he is an "an absolute danger to our democratic Republic" , the hypocrisy and stupidity of the lemmings that belong to the two major political crime families makes me want to vomit.

The electoral college might still elect him, but the people, will surely not.

Uh-huh, the same was said about George "Bullshit War in Iraq" Bush in 2004, how did that work out for John Kerry and Crime Family-D?

Never underestimate the appetite of the American Electorate for shedding foreign blood.

I agree, Bush2 won his 2nd term.

Bush2 was despised, but Trump is a bully..... people really really really do not like leaders that bully them, they punch back.

That gives them the unlikely "shot" at winning imo.

 

[theHawk]

So what was an Iranian general doing in Iraq?

Attending the funeral of the 25 Iraqi militia soldiers murdered by your government. He also was to meet the president of Iraq, to discuss a peace plan involving all parties in Iraq.

Why don’t you know this?

Why would he be attending funerals for Iraqis?

He was there to lead the riot against our embassy and attempt to turn it into another Benghazi.

“Peace negotiations”, uh huh.

Come on. Get informed or stop posting.

Iran taunted President Trump, saying “You can’t do anything”, referring to the attacks on the embassy orchestrated by Iran.

Why would they say that if they were innocent of wrongdoing in Iraq?

Did you know the general flew commercial from Syria to Baghdad? Do well known terrorists fly commercial under their real name?

Why would the USA military work with the general to fight ISIS in Syria, if he is a murderer of Americans.

Please refute or be a dupe.

What does flying commercially in the ME have to do with the military?

They “worked with” Syria to kill off ISIS, they did not interface directly with Iran. Just because they may have helped kill of ISIS doesn’t mean they don’t hate the US as much as ISIS did. None of what you say makes any sense.

 

[gipper]

You watch way too much television news.

I don’t watch any. I’m just a lot smarter than you.

lol we’ll see.

OTH. ..

This all could be one giant elaborate ruse of Trump's to outsmart the Deep State and the Military?

If after it is all done, if Gipper IS right, and the Iranians show restraint, and the U.S. ends up having to leave, not only Iraq, but Syria and possibly Afghanistan as well, doesn't Trump get what he has always wanted, over and above, Israel, the Military, the Deep State and all the generals?

After U.S. Strike On Iraqi Forces Its Troops Will (Again) Have To Leave
MoA - After U.S. Strike On Iraqi Forces Its Troops Will (Again) Have To Leave

". . . There are some 5,000 U.S. soldiers in Iraq in bases which also house 10,000nds of Iraqi soldiers and PMF troops. Revenge attacks are now inevitable:

In the aftermath of the American strikes, Iraqi Prime Minister Adil Abdul-Mahdi said, “We have already confirmed our rejection of any unilateral action by coalition forces or any other forces inside Iraq. We consider it a violation of Iraq’s sovereignty and a dangerous escalation that threatens the security of Iraq and the region,” according to a statement released on Iraqi state television.
Abdul-Mahdi now finds himself facing the nightmare possibility of Iranian-linked paramilitaries, whose political wings hold enormous sway over his government, going to war with American forces on Iraqi territory, which would compound a disastrous few months in which the deaths of hundreds of protestors have been laid at his feet, prompting him to hand in his resignation to parliament.


The coming days and weeks will answer a number of questions about how this perilous situation will play out, primarily how far are the paramilitaries willing to act upon their rhetoric which has endlessly stated that the American presence in Iraq is a continuation of the occupation, in addition to their readiness to take military action in order to force out the Americans, “once again”.


The U.S. and Israel have already killed hundreds of Iraqi forces that are aligned with Iran. But these were the most egregious strikes. There is no doubt. The U.S. forces will have to (again) leave Iraq:

Brasco_Aad @Brasco_Aad - 19:55 UTC · Dec 29, 2019
Iraqi PMU Asai'b Ahl al-Haq statement on the American attack on Iraq tonight:
''The American military presence has become a burden for the State and a source of aggression against our forces and therefore it has become mandatory for all of us to expel them from Iraq.''
U.S. President Donald Trump had declared that he wants U.S. troops to leave the Middle East. But the 'deep state', the Pentagon and State Department bureaucracy, have resisted any such move:

Pompeo, Esper and Gen. Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, flew to Palm Beach, Florida, after the operation to brief President Donald Trump.
Esper said they discussed with Trump “other options that are available” to respond to Iran.
...
Trump was at Mar-a-Lago but did not appear with his top national security officials. After Pompeo and Esper spoke, the president traveled to his private golf club in West Palm Beach. The White House did not immediately say why Trump returned to the club after spending nearly six hours there earlier Sunday.


Yesterday's attacks guarantee that all U.S. troops will have to leave Iraq and will thereby also lose their supply lines to Syria.


One wonders if that was the real intent of those strikes."

That’s a very optimistic theory. I hope it’s right, but fear it isn’t. I don’t believe Donnie is that smart.

I agree.

More than likely, the gang of eight had always known about this, since Israel gave the coordinates of the assassination.

It is my suspicion, that this is the true reason these articles of impeachment have been held up. Blackmail? Trump has made clear he doesn't have an interest in more war, so how do you get him to engage in nation building and being like previous presidents? Perhaps he was always lying, but he was so consistent throughout Obama and Bush. How do you get him to do the bidding of the dogs of war? It seems to be the exact reverse of everything he has criticized the previous administrations for. It is a complete continuation of establishment policy and a reversal of everything he has said for 30 years.

This antagonism has been planned. However, I just don't think Iran will take the bait.

You might be right. Maybe they are blackmailing him. If he doesn’t pursue more regime change wars, he gets removed from office. Anyone’s guess.

 

[gipper]

Attending the funeral of the 25 Iraqi militia soldiers murdered by your government. He also was to meet the president of Iraq, to discuss a peace plan involving all parties in Iraq.

Why don’t you know this?

Why would he be attending funerals for Iraqis?

He was there to lead the riot against our embassy and attempt to turn it into another Benghazi.

“Peace negotiations”, uh huh.

Come on. Get informed or stop posting.

Iran taunted President Trump, saying “You can’t do anything”, referring to the attacks on the embassy orchestrated by Iran.

Why would they say that if they were innocent of wrongdoing in Iraq?

Did you know the general flew commercial from Syria to Baghdad? Do well known terrorists fly commercial under their real name?

Why would the USA military work with the general to fight ISIS in Syria, if he is a murderer of Americans.

Please refute or be a dupe.

What does flying commercially in the ME have to do with the military?

They “worked with” Syria to kill off ISIS, they did not interface directly with Iran. Just because they may have helped kill of ISIS doesn’t mean they don’t hate the US as much as ISIS did. None of what you say makes any sense.

Good God man. Are you totally clueless?

If you are a well known terrorist, do you fly commercial? Think man. Think.

 

[gipper]

That’s right. He won’t be re-elected. His cowardly and enormously stupid cold blooded killing of the general has needlessly inflamed the region, and now Americans will die.

He campaigned on nonintervention, just as his two lying predecessors did, but now we know he too is a liar.

Donnie just made Sniify Joe look like a foreign policy expert. God help us.

Good job on questioning the official story regarding the killing of Soleimani, the war hawk establishment in Washington never bats an eye about telling the BIG LIE in order to get their way, it isn't the guy in the Oval Office you have to worry about, it's the military industrial complex and all its warmongering sycophants that inhabit Washington that are the real problem. Personally I don't buy the story coming out of Washington and being parroted by the media, too many things don't make sense about this.

However I think you're probably mistaken regarding the effect this will have on Donny's re-election chances; Georgey Boy campaigned on non-interventionism and no nation building yet started a war on blatantly false premises and cruised to re-election without a hitch, O'Nimrod wasn't much better, he talked a good game but when it came time to shed blood overseas he kowtowed to War Inc. like the good little politician he is and was easily re-elected.

All in all this probably helps Donny get re-elected since the American people just love it when a President goes all John Wayne and starts killing evil foreigners with smart bombs.

"We like war! We're a war-like people! We like war because we're good at it! You know why we're good at it? Cause we get a lot of practice. This country's only 200 years old and already, we've had 10 major wars. We average a major war every 20 years in this country so we're good at it! And it's a good thing we are; we're not very good at anything else anymore! Huh? Can't build a decent car, can't make a TV set or a VCR worth a fuck, got no steel industry left, can't educate our young people, can't get health care to our old people, but we can bomb the shit out of your country all right! Huh? Especially if your country is full of brown people; oh we like that don't we? That's our hobby! That's our new job in the world: bombing brown people. Iraq, Panama, Grenada, Libya, you got some brown people in your country, tell them to watch the fuck out or we'll goddamn bomb them!" -- George Carlin

He might get reelected, but whether valid or not, I would not underestimate how strongly the Democrats believe he is an absolute danger to our democratic Republic, to our Nation!!!

The fact that Democrats believe he is "an absolute danger to our democratic Republic" is completely irrelevant since they only believe that because he has an "R" behind his name instead of "D". If Donny had a "D" behind his name and was doing EXACTLY the same things he's doing now it would be the Democrats licking his boots and the Republicans believing he is an "an absolute danger to our democratic Republic" , the hypocrisy and stupidity of the lemmings that belong to the two major political crime families makes me want to vomit.

The electoral college might still elect him, but the people, will surely not.

Uh-huh, the same was said about George "Bullshit War in Iraq" Bush in 2004, how did that work out for John Kerry and Crime Family-D?

Never underestimate the appetite of the American Electorate for shedding foreign blood.

I agree, Bush2 won his 2nd term.

Bush2 was despised, but Trump is a bully..... people really really really do not like leaders that bully them, they punch back.

That gives them the unlikely "shot" at winning imo.

I hope it’s more than that.

Many Americans like me voted for him because of his anti-war stance. Unlike all the idiot warmongers in this thread, I hope those like me abandon support for Donnie.

I thought cons wanted peace. I thought wrong. Their support for Donnie is unconditional, just as Ds supported O unconditionally.

 

[MisterBeale]

'They Fear Someone Will Go There and Tell the Truth,' Says Iran's Top Diplomat as Trump White House Bars Him From US
"You can speak with American people from Tehran too and we will do that," said Iran's Foreign Minister Javad Zarif.
by
Jake Johnson, staff writer
'They Fear Someone Will Go There and Tell the Truth,' Says Iran's Top Diplomat as Trump White House Bars Him From US

Trump Administration Blocks Iran’s Top Diplomat From Addressing the U.N. Security Council
Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif had sought to give a speech condemning the U.S. assassination of Qassem Suleimani.
Trump Administration Blocks Iran’s Top Diplomat From Addressing the U.N. Security Council

"The Trump administration is barring Iran’s top diplomat from entering the United States this week to address the United Nations Security Council about the U.S. assassination of Iran’s top military official in Baghdad, violating the terms of a 1947 headquarters agreement requiring Washington to permit foreign officials into the country to conduct U.N. business, according to three diplomatic sources.

Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif requested a visa a “few weeks ago” to enter the United States to attend a Jan. 9 Security Council meeting on the importance of upholding the U.N. Charter, according to a diplomatic source familiar with the matter. The Thursday meeting was to provide Tehran’s top diplomat with his first opportunity to directly address the world community since U.S. President Donald Trump ordered the Jan. 3 drone strike that killed Maj. Gen. Qassem Suleimani, a top Iraqi militia leader, among others. . . . "


The American Deep State does not want peaceful resolution, it only wants war.

In war, truth is the first casualty. Folks should watch behavior, not propaganda.

 

[theHawk]

Why would he be attending funerals for Iraqis?

He was there to lead the riot against our embassy and attempt to turn it into another Benghazi.

“Peace negotiations”, uh huh.

Come on. Get informed or stop posting.

Iran taunted President Trump, saying “You can’t do anything”, referring to the attacks on the embassy orchestrated by Iran.

Why would they say that if they were innocent of wrongdoing in Iraq?

Did you know the general flew commercial from Syria to Baghdad? Do well known terrorists fly commercial under their real name?

Why would the USA military work with the general to fight ISIS in Syria, if he is a murderer of Americans.

Please refute or be a dupe.

What does flying commercially in the ME have to do with the military?

They “worked with” Syria to kill off ISIS, they did not interface directly with Iran. Just because they may have helped kill of ISIS doesn’t mean they don’t hate the US as much as ISIS did. None of what you say makes any sense.

Good God man. Are you totally clueless?

If you are a well known terrorist, do you fly commercial? Think man. Think.

Because he was arrogant and stupid. He was designated a terrorist back in the Obama days. He assumed President Trump didn’t have the balls to do anything to him.

How did that work out for him?

 

[gipper]

So true...


When I say Trump's Iran claims are unproven, I always get Trump supporters telling me that's because the evidence is classified. Secret, invisible, hypothetical evidence is not evidence, guys. Not as far as public scrutiny is concerned. I've explained this to Russiagaters too. Caitlin Johnstone.

 

[theHawk]

That’s right. He won’t be re-elected. His cowardly and enormously stupid cold blooded killing of the general has needlessly inflamed the region, and now Americans will die.

He campaigned on nonintervention, just as his two lying predecessors did, but now we know he too is a liar.

Donnie just made Sniify Joe look like a foreign policy expert. God help us.

Good job on questioning the official story regarding the killing of Soleimani, the war hawk establishment in Washington never bats an eye about telling the BIG LIE in order to get their way, it isn't the guy in the Oval Office you have to worry about, it's the military industrial complex and all its warmongering sycophants that inhabit Washington that are the real problem. Personally I don't buy the story coming out of Washington and being parroted by the media, too many things don't make sense about this.

However I think you're probably mistaken regarding the effect this will have on Donny's re-election chances; Georgey Boy campaigned on non-interventionism and no nation building yet started a war on blatantly false premises and cruised to re-election without a hitch, O'Nimrod wasn't much better, he talked a good game but when it came time to shed blood overseas he kowtowed to War Inc. like the good little politician he is and was easily re-elected.

All in all this probably helps Donny get re-elected since the American people just love it when a President goes all John Wayne and starts killing evil foreigners with smart bombs.

"We like war! We're a war-like people! We like war because we're good at it! You know why we're good at it? Cause we get a lot of practice. This country's only 200 years old and already, we've had 10 major wars. We average a major war every 20 years in this country so we're good at it! And it's a good thing we are; we're not very good at anything else anymore! Huh? Can't build a decent car, can't make a TV set or a VCR worth a fuck, got no steel industry left, can't educate our young people, can't get health care to our old people, but we can bomb the shit out of your country all right! Huh? Especially if your country is full of brown people; oh we like that don't we? That's our hobby! That's our new job in the world: bombing brown people. Iraq, Panama, Grenada, Libya, you got some brown people in your country, tell them to watch the fuck out or we'll goddamn bomb them!" -- George Carlin

He might get reelected, but whether valid or not, I would not underestimate how strongly the Democrats believe he is an absolute danger to our democratic Republic, to our Nation!!!

The fact that Democrats believe he is "an absolute danger to our democratic Republic" is completely irrelevant since they only believe that because he has an "R" behind his name instead of "D". If Donny had a "D" behind his name and was doing EXACTLY the same things he's doing now it would be the Democrats licking his boots and the Republicans believing he is an "an absolute danger to our democratic Republic" , the hypocrisy and stupidity of the lemmings that belong to the two major political crime families makes me want to vomit.

The electoral college might still elect him, but the people, will surely not.

Uh-huh, the same was said about George "Bullshit War in Iraq" Bush in 2004, how did that work out for John Kerry and Crime Family-D?

Never underestimate the appetite of the American Electorate for shedding foreign blood.

I agree, Bush2 won his 2nd term.

Bush2 was despised, but Trump is a bully..... people really really really do not like leaders that bully them, they punch back.

That gives them the unlikely "shot" at winning imo.

I hope it’s more than that.

Many Americans like me voted for him because of his anti-war stance. Unlike all the idiot warmongers in this thread, I hope those like me abandon support for Donnie.

I thought cons wanted peace. I thought wrong. Their support for Donnie is unconditional, just as Ds supported O unconditionally.

Yes, we voted for him because of his anti-war stance. He has kept us out of war so far, even though the moronic left have been claiming he would get us into wars with NK, China, Syria.

Iran has declared war on the US. You think we should just ignore those threats?

 

[gipper]

Come on. Get informed or stop posting.

Iran taunted President Trump, saying “You can’t do anything”, referring to the attacks on the embassy orchestrated by Iran.

Why would they say that if they were innocent of wrongdoing in Iraq?

Did you know the general flew commercial from Syria to Baghdad? Do well known terrorists fly commercial under their real name?

Why would the USA military work with the general to fight ISIS in Syria, if he is a murderer of Americans.

Please refute or be a dupe.

What does flying commercially in the ME have to do with the military?

They “worked with” Syria to kill off ISIS, they did not interface directly with Iran. Just because they may have helped kill of ISIS doesn’t mean they don’t hate the US as much as ISIS did. None of what you say makes any sense.

Good God man. Are you totally clueless?

If you are a well known terrorist, do you fly commercial? Think man. Think.

Because he was arrogant and stupid. He was designated a terrorist back in the Obama days. He assumed President Trump didn’t have the balls to do anything to him.

How did that work out for him?

Yeah the top general of Iran just exposes himself carelessly. You believe this, but can’t refute anything Stockman stated.

Refute or be a dupe.

 

[gipper]

That’s right. He won’t be re-elected. His cowardly and enormously stupid cold blooded killing of the general has needlessly inflamed the region, and now Americans will die.

He campaigned on nonintervention, just as his two lying predecessors did, but now we know he too is a liar.

Donnie just made Sniify Joe look like a foreign policy expert. God help us.

So what was an Iranian general doing in Iraq?

Attending the funeral of the 25 Iraqi militia soldiers murdered by your government. He also was to meet the president of Iraq, to discuss a peace plan involving all parties in Iraq.

Why don’t you know this?

Attending the funeral of the 25 Iraqi militia soldiers murdered by your government.

He was a regular humanitarian, eh?

The year matters not. Profound statements are timeless.

HEIL TRUMP...ACHTUNG!!!

Good God Gipper, get a gripper on yourself. Here again we see a beautiful example of the radical black and white polarized thinking of the cognitive dissonant resorting again to Godwin's Law. Now in a day, we have forgotten who we are dealing with and taken the bad people in all of this and transformed them into the victim somehow while overnight making Trump out to be "Adolf Hitler" because he has done the one thing which might end all of this conflict and hostility instead of keeping it alive another 40 years:

ACTUALLY FLOUT THE OPTION OF REAL WAR in the face of the Iranians at a cost they cannot pay instead of just another tit for tat conflagrating never ending police action that all of the progressive "civilized peace-lovers" of the world so proudly hold dear even as it has lead to almost a half century of unresolved hostility and conflict.

Can anyone here actually just keep their dick in their pocket for 5 minutes first before panicking to see how this all plays out?

Let's not forget who we are dealing with here, the Iranians have:

1. Seized and attacked our embassies.
2. Taken our people prisoner.
3. Conducted suicide bombings.
4. Attacked our military in their bases.
5. Mined the Persian Gulf.
6. Done severe damage to many of our vessels.
7. Sponsored terror organizations all over.
8. Facilitated the 9/11 hijackers.
9. Killed hundreds and hundreds of our diplomats, civilians and especially military.
10. Arrested and detained many of our people without cause or charge sometimes for decades.
11. Attempted to carry out an assassination right in Washington DC.
12. Attacked US interests worldwide.
13. Charged our ships for no apparent cause.
14. Seized our ships for no cause.
15. Carried out surveillance of our bases and airports in preparation to attack Americans.
16. Infiltrated our country with spies.
17. Made specific death threats against our leaders and country.
18. Persistently and stubbornly resisted and violated all efforts to monitor and limit their nuclear development.

And all for what? BECAUSE THEY ABSOLUTELY REFUSE TO ABANDON THEIR HOSTILE, PROVOCATIVE HISTORY OF REPRESSION, AGGRESSION AND TERROR, making them too much of a potential threat to just "leave alone" and hope for the best.

Instead, we are diluting this all with conspiracy theories and chomping on our own leg. The VERY BEST THING that Iran could hope for right now as they unify into one cause is exactly what the Left is giving them: attacks on Trump, vilification of America as being the bad guy here, and especially, talk of reigning in Trump's ability to execute military campaigns. The Iranians would like nothing better here than to see America like all western countries pull back in self-doubt and self-imposed impotence yet again, thus reassuring them of our image as a paper tiger unlikely to ever really strike.


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How many military bases does Iran have, that encircle the USA? What sanctions has Iran imposed on the USA that are dramatically harming it’s economy? How many nations has Iran invaded over the last 100 years? How many civilians has and military personnel has Iran murdered in the past 100 years? Has Iran threatened the USA with nuclear annihilation?

Please read Stockman’s column and refute what you can? Please?


How the Donald Assassinated America First - LewRockwell LewRockwell.com
Stated differently, Iran’s extremely modest military capacities are not remotely about an offensive threat to the American homeland. They are overwhelmingly about defending itself in its own neighborhood, where Washington has been intervening and occupying with massive firepower and hostile intent for decades.

How many military bases does Iran have, that encircle the USA?

Exactly! Iran is super awesome!!!!

Who cares about their support for terrorism?

Please read Stockman’s column

What's that whiney twat whining about now?

It’s funny how some Americans know little tiny Iran with it’s puny military commits terrorism on an enormous scale, but they can’t see the terrorism committed by their government. How is this possible?

Puny military? You Dolt, they are the most powerful country we have had tensions with since the Korean War, getting direct aide from China and Russia!

That’s right. He won’t be re-elected. His cowardly and enormously stupid cold blooded killing of the general has needlessly inflamed the region, and now Americans will die.

He campaigned on nonintervention, just as his two lying predecessors did, but now we know he too is a liar.

Donnie just made Sniify Joe look like a foreign policy expert. God help us.

Watching your head explode is going to be amusing.

I guess you aren’t a free thinker. If only you were the exception. Sadly, there are way too many close minded non-thinkers on this forum.

Oh, I am a free thinker, and I have watched iran spread terror, and death throughout the world.

I worked and lived in the countries they have harmed so have direct experience of their disdain for humanity.

That’s right. He won’t be re-elected. His cowardly and enormously stupid cold blooded killing of the general has needlessly inflamed the region, and now Americans will die.

He campaigned on nonintervention, just as his two lying predecessors did, but now we know he too is a liar.

Donnie just made Sniify Joe look like a foreign policy expert. God help us.

So what was an Iranian general doing in Iraq?

Attending the funeral of the 25 Iraqi militia soldiers murdered by your government. He also was to meet the president of Iraq, to discuss a peace plan involving all parties in Iraq.

Why don’t you know this?

Why would he be attending funerals for Iraqis?

He was there to lead the riot against our embassy and attempt to turn it into another Benghazi.

“Peace negotiations”, uh huh.

Come on. Get informed or stop posting.

Iran taunted President Trump, saying “You can’t do anything”, referring to the attacks on the embassy orchestrated by Iran.

Why would they say that if they were innocent of wrongdoing in Iraq?

Come on dudes! Refute this or admit being a dupe for Donnie.


The US Government Lies Constantly, And The Burden Of Proof Is On The Accuser
The US Government Lies Constantly, And The Burden Of Proof Is On The Accuser

In reality there’s no evidence for any of the reasons we’ve been offered for why Iran needed to be provoked into an almost inevitable retaliation that Trump is currently tweeting will result in all-out war:

• The claim that Soleimani posed an “imminent threat” is completely without evidence, rumored to be “razor thin“, and entirely debunked in this excellent essay by Craig Murray.
• Mike Pence’s claim that Soleimani assisted 9/11 terrorists is so ridiculous that even the war-loving Washington Post dismissed it.
• There’s no proof that Soleimani directed the strike that allegedly killed a US contractor, or that that contractor even existed.
• There’s no proof that Soleimani was involved in any “attack” on any US embassy, leaving aside the obvious fact that a little graffiti on the walls wouldn’t justify his assassination if he did.
• The “hundreds of American deaths” line you hear regurgitated by everyone from Trump to Elizabeth Warren actually refers to Iraqis defending themselves from an illegal US invasion with some training from Iran. The claim that Iran was behind Iraqi bombs is withoutevidence and wouldn’t matter if it were true; claiming the inhabitants of an invaded nation don’t have the right to defend themselves is absurd, regardless of where they got their weaponry.
• The claim that Soleimani was “a terrorist” is only made because the branch of the Iranian military he commanded was arbitrarily designated a terrorist organization by the US government last year, a designation that any foreign government could just as easily make for any branch of the US military. He was actually a fearsome enemy of ISIS and al-Qaeda and played a massive role in halting the spread of ISIS.

 

[theHawk]

Iran taunted President Trump, saying “You can’t do anything”, referring to the attacks on the embassy orchestrated by Iran.

Why would they say that if they were innocent of wrongdoing in Iraq?

Did you know the general flew commercial from Syria to Baghdad? Do well known terrorists fly commercial under their real name?

Why would the USA military work with the general to fight ISIS in Syria, if he is a murderer of Americans.

Please refute or be a dupe.

What does flying commercially in the ME have to do with the military?

They “worked with” Syria to kill off ISIS, they did not interface directly with Iran. Just because they may have helped kill of ISIS doesn’t mean they don’t hate the US as much as ISIS did. None of what you say makes any sense.

Good God man. Are you totally clueless?

If you are a well known terrorist, do you fly commercial? Think man. Think.

Because he was arrogant and stupid. He was designated a terrorist back in the Obama days. He assumed President Trump didn’t have the balls to do anything to him.

How did that work out for him?

Yeah the top general of Iran just exposes himself carelessly. You believe this, but can’t refute anything Stockman stated.

Refute or be a dupe.

Refute what? The General did expose himself because of his arrogance.

Are you going to refute the fact he was designated a terrorist years ago? Even the EU designated him a terrorist in 2012.

You going to refute? Or shut the fuck up already?

 

[LA RAM FAN]

You're just trolling, right? ...

Coming from an expert at that,USMB's biggest hypocrite,you would know.

 

[gipper]

Did you know the general flew commercial from Syria to Baghdad? Do well known terrorists fly commercial under their real name?

Why would the USA military work with the general to fight ISIS in Syria, if he is a murderer of Americans.

Please refute or be a dupe.

What does flying commercially in the ME have to do with the military?

They “worked with” Syria to kill off ISIS, they did not interface directly with Iran. Just because they may have helped kill of ISIS doesn’t mean they don’t hate the US as much as ISIS did. None of what you say makes any sense.

Good God man. Are you totally clueless?

If you are a well known terrorist, do you fly commercial? Think man. Think.

Because he was arrogant and stupid. He was designated a terrorist back in the Obama days. He assumed President Trump didn’t have the balls to do anything to him.

How did that work out for him?

Yeah the top general of Iran just exposes himself carelessly. You believe this, but can’t refute anything Stockman stated.

Refute or be a dupe.

Refute what? The General did expose himself because of his arrogance.

Are you going to refute the fact he was designated a terrorist years ago? Even the EU designated him a terrorist in 2012.

You going to refute? Or shut the fuck up already?

Can you fucking read? REFUTE DUPE

 

[westwall]

Iran taunted President Trump, saying “You can’t do anything”, referring to the attacks on the embassy orchestrated by Iran.

Why would they say that if they were innocent of wrongdoing in Iraq?

Did you know the general flew commercial from Syria to Baghdad? Do well known terrorists fly commercial under their real name?

Why would the USA military work with the general to fight ISIS in Syria, if he is a murderer of Americans.

Please refute or be a dupe.

What does flying commercially in the ME have to do with the military?

They “worked with” Syria to kill off ISIS, they did not interface directly with Iran. Just because they may have helped kill of ISIS doesn’t mean they don’t hate the US as much as ISIS did. None of what you say makes any sense.

Good God man. Are you totally clueless?

If you are a well known terrorist, do you fly commercial? Think man. Think.

Because he was arrogant and stupid. He was designated a terrorist back in the Obama days. He assumed President Trump didn’t have the balls to do anything to him.

How did that work out for him?

Yeah the top general of Iran just exposes himself carelessly. You believe this, but can’t refute anything Stockman stated.

Refute or be a dupe.

He exposed himself because he got cocky. He thought he was untouchable because the presidents we have had were pretty timid. Especially that iran loving shithead obummer. Your apparent hero.

 

[westwall]

What does flying commercially in the ME have to do with the military?

They “worked with” Syria to kill off ISIS, they did not interface directly with Iran. Just because they may have helped kill of ISIS doesn’t mean they don’t hate the US as much as ISIS did. None of what you say makes any sense.

Good God man. Are you totally clueless?

If you are a well known terrorist, do you fly commercial? Think man. Think.

Because he was arrogant and stupid. He was designated a terrorist back in the Obama days. He assumed President Trump didn’t have the balls to do anything to him.

How did that work out for him?

Yeah the top general of Iran just exposes himself carelessly. You believe this, but can’t refute anything Stockman stated.

Refute or be a dupe.

Refute what? The General did expose himself because of his arrogance.

Are you going to refute the fact he was designated a terrorist years ago? Even the EU designated him a terrorist in 2012.

You going to refute? Or shut the fuck up already?

Can you fucking read? REFUTE DUPE

Oh fuck you you hypocritical ass. The only dupe here is you.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

You do realize the general you seem to respect is responsible for the cowardly killing of hundreds of American?

LOL. You don’t know WTF you are talking about. please get informed.


The US Government Lies Constantly, And The Burden Of Proof Is On The Accuser
The US Government Lies Constantly, And The Burden Of Proof Is On The Accuser

In reality there’s no evidence for any of the reasons we’ve been offered for why Iran needed to be provoked into an almost inevitable retaliation that Trump is currently tweeting will result in all-out war:

• The claim that Soleimani posed an “imminent threat” is completely without evidence, rumored to be “razor thin“, and entirely debunked in this excellent essay by Craig Murray.
• Mike Pence’s claim that Soleimani assisted 9/11 terrorists is so ridiculous that even the war-loving Washington Post dismissed it.
• There’s no proof that Soleimani directed the strike that allegedly killed a US contractor, or that that contractor even existed.
• There’s no proof that Soleimani was involved in any “attack” on any US embassy, leaving aside the obvious fact that a little graffiti on the walls wouldn’t justify his assassination if he did.
• The “hundreds of American deaths” line you hear regurgitated by everyone from Trump to Elizabeth Warren actually refers to Iraqis defending themselves from an illegal US invasion with some training from Iran. The claim that Iran was behind Iraqi bombs is withoutevidence and wouldn’t matter if it were true; claiming the inhabitants of an invaded nation don’t have the right to defend themselves is absurd, regardless of where they got their weaponry.
• The claim that Soleimani was “a terrorist” is only made because the branch of the Iranian military he commanded was arbitrarily designated a terrorist organization by the US government last year, a designation that any foreign government could just as easily make for any branch of the US military. He was actually a fearsome enemy of ISIS and al-Qaeda and played a massive role in halting the spread of ISIS.

Notice how all the people that laughed at this post of yours and all of them that did in the OP as well,ALL of them are resident trolls of USMB who ALL cowardly run off with their tails between their legs and evade evidence they cant counter all the time and always change the subject in defeat? as always,knowing you checkmated them and took them all to school,they are doing the same thing now in defeat as well.Like clockwork,.there was ONE poster in the OP who posted a laughing smiley that is not a troll,i was surprised he did that.

as always,they are covering their ears and closing their eyes to the evidence of links you posted that took them all to school and handed them their asses to them on a platter.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Good God man. Are you totally clueless?

If you are a well known terrorist, do you fly commercial? Think man. Think.

Because he was arrogant and stupid. He was designated a terrorist back in the Obama days. He assumed President Trump didn’t have the balls to do anything to him.

How did that work out for him?

Yeah the top general of Iran just exposes himself carelessly. You believe this, but can’t refute anything Stockman stated.

Refute or be a dupe.

Refute what? The General did expose himself because of his arrogance.

Are you going to refute the fact he was designated a terrorist years ago? Even the EU designated him a terrorist in 2012.

You going to refute? Or shut the fuck up already?

Can you fucking read? REFUTE DUPE

Oh fuck you you hypocritical ass. The only dupe here is you.

Good God man. Are you totally clueless?

If you are a well known terrorist, do you fly commercial? Think man. Think.

Because he was arrogant and stupid. He was designated a terrorist back in the Obama days. He assumed President Trump didn’t have the balls to do anything to him.

How did that work out for him?

Yeah the top general of Iran just exposes himself carelessly. You believe this, but can’t refute anything Stockman stated.

Refute or be a dupe.

Refute what? The General did expose himself because of his arrogance.

Are you going to refute the fact he was designated a terrorist years ago? Even the EU designated him a terrorist in 2012.

You going to refute? Or shut the fuck up already?

Can you fucking read? REFUTE DUPE

Oh fuck you you hypocritical ass. The only dupe here is you.

as always,you get angry in defeat when you get checkmated same as you always did on the 9/11 discussion with people.


You’re clueless. The Ds are just as much warmongers as Trump and the Rs. The neocons run the country. Accept it.

sheep like him are brainwashed by our corrupt school system that there is a difference in the two parties so he wont accept it,will live in denial his whole life.