JoeB131
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I always find it interesting too about the left. Who, of course hold fast to the fact that EVERYTHING in life can only be described as coincidence and chance.
That means they do not really believe in a "conscience." There is no real such thing as guilt and so therefore the term "sin" or "evil" is mythical and does not exist. Of course they are the same people that are moved to want to stop so called water boarding as being torture and they claim to be all on the side of the poor and down trodden. (makes you wonder why they would not be happy that Saddam is gone, but that is just another illustration of their double standards and hypocrisy)
Guy, I'm against Water-boarding because it doesn't fucking work. I could water-board you into pissing on a bible, given enough time.
No, there's no such thing as "sin". There is such a thing as guilt. If Singer used force to make this person have sex with him, then, yeah, he's guilty. I'd like some proof first, not the word of a washout actor-boy looking to make a quick buck.
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Joe B has already stated that he thinks 15 year olds should be treated as adults when it comes to sexual acts. He did mention that too. Raised an eyebrow for me, don't know about you.
Reality- 15 years old treat themselves like adults when it comes to act of sex. 20% of 15 year olds are sexually active. Now, you can scream about sin all day, but the reality is the reality, and we need to learn to deal with it as a society.
Of course, a century ago, 15 year olds could get married, and usually did because before birth control, we had the "Shotgun Wedding".
So, a person that does not believe in evil, and believes everything happens by chance (even though it would be nearly impossible according to mathematical probability that everything is an anthropic coincidence) needs to be treated suspiciously.
Joe B is one of those that should be treated suspiciously in my opinion. He has sort of unzipped his fly in this thread. Makes you wonder though, what is so bothersome about water boarding terrorists and he does not say shit about our very own soldiers being water boarded in training. I mean if it is torture.......oh never mind.
Their selective outrage, is indeed selective. Therefore, totally hypocritical.
Actually, the problem with mathematical probablility is that in infinite time and infinite space, anything can happen by chance. Since we don't know that life is unique to Earth, (it might be) we might just be that mathematical improbability.
But anyway, before I get around to negging you again for being so incredily stupid, here's my problem with Waterboarding.
1) It doesn't work.
2) It violates a bunch of treaties we signed in good conscience.
3) It gives our enemies license to do much worse things to our guys.
4) it makes potential allies not want to be associated with us.
Now for your argument that "Hey, it's okay because we let Sadistic Drill Instructors do it to recruits", frankly, i thought a lot of what they made us do in basic training was needlessly sadistic.