Our Kennedy.

[Papageorgio]

It's liberals like rdean, and sallow that keep lying and are not honest.

Yeah that's why those who use Fox as their news source know less about current events than people who don't watch TV at all. Because Fox news is so full of misstatements, and outright lies that their viewers have no clue what's really going on in the world. Of course, if they told the truth, more people would be voting for the Democratic party, because the facts are that the Republicans don't have the best interests of the people of the United States as their over-riding concern. Their hearts and souls have been sold to the highest bidder.

I don't know anything about FOXNews. I wonder why you watch it if you find it so bad?

So high unemployment, hurting the middle class with increased health insurance rates, hold off another year of Obamacare from business, so it hurts the working middle class more.

The democrats table every budget put forth, further hurting the recovery. The Democratic Party and Obama have lied to the American people about being able to keep their insurance, they have done nothing to create jobs, they increase taxes during a bad economy. It looks like Obama, who bought GMC, lowered GE's taxes to nothing, that helped insurance companies to great profits, is more for the rich than anyone else. Looks like Democrats have sold their soul to the highest bidder.

Again, the Demmies have who's interests at heart, it doesn't seem that they like the hard working middle class at all.

Care to address the misinformation about Reagan, EIC that you try to spread?

 

[Sallow]

It's liberals like rdean, and sallow that keep lying and are not honest.

Yeah that's why those who use Fox as their news source know less about current events than people who don't watch TV at all. Because Fox news is so full of misstatements, and outright lies that their viewers have no clue what's really going on in the world. Of course, if they told the truth, more people would be voting for the Democratic party, because the facts are that the Republicans don't have the best interests of the people of the United States as their over-riding concern. Their hearts and souls have been sold to the highest bidder.

I don't know anything about FOXNews. I wonder why you watch it if you find it so bad?

So high unemployment, hurting the middle class with increased health insurance rates, hold off another year of Obamacare from business, so it hurts the working middle class more.

The democrats table every budget put forth, further hurting the recovery. The Democratic Party and Obama have lied to the American people about being able to keep their insurance, they have done nothing to create jobs, they increase taxes during a bad economy. It looks like Obama, who bought GMC, lowered GE's taxes to nothing, that helped insurance companies to great profits, is more for the rich than anyone else. Looks like Democrats have sold their soul to the highest bidder.

Again, the Demmies have who's interests at heart, it doesn't seem that they like the hard working middle class at all.

Care to address the misinformation about Reagan, EIC that you try to spread?

The misinformation essentially comes from FOX, which isn't new..and it's Saudi propaganda.

You conservatives have had nothing to do with forming this country and have been trying to destroy it ever since. Whether that be through the loyalists, torries, whigs, confederates, dixiecrats, john birchers, neocons, pnac or tea party..the name changes but the goal doesn't.

 

[Papageorgio]

Yeah that's why those who use Fox as their news source know less about current events than people who don't watch TV at all. Because Fox news is so full of misstatements, and outright lies that their viewers have no clue what's really going on in the world. Of course, if they told the truth, more people would be voting for the Democratic party, because the facts are that the Republicans don't have the best interests of the people of the United States as their over-riding concern. Their hearts and souls have been sold to the highest bidder.

I don't know anything about FOXNews. I wonder why you watch it if you find it so bad?

So high unemployment, hurting the middle class with increased health insurance rates, hold off another year of Obamacare from business, so it hurts the working middle class more.

The democrats table every budget put forth, further hurting the recovery. The Democratic Party and Obama have lied to the American people about being able to keep their insurance, they have done nothing to create jobs, they increase taxes during a bad economy. It looks like Obama, who bought GMC, lowered GE's taxes to nothing, that helped insurance companies to great profits, is more for the rich than anyone else. Looks like Democrats have sold their soul to the highest bidder.

Again, the Demmies have who's interests at heart, it doesn't seem that they like the hard working middle class at all.

Care to address the misinformation about Reagan, EIC that you try to spread?

The misinformation essentially comes from FOX, which isn't new..and it's Saudi propaganda.

You conservatives have had nothing to do with forming this country and have been trying to destroy it ever since. Whether that be through the loyalists, torries, whigs, confederates, dixiecrats, john birchers, neocons, pnac or tea party..the name changes but the goal doesn't.

Keep watching FOXNews, I never watch it.

The rest of your post is more opinion based on your limited views.

Do you think dragon lady will address her lies, probably not huh?

 

[Sallow]

I don't know anything about FOXNews. I wonder why you watch it if you find it so bad?

So high unemployment, hurting the middle class with increased health insurance rates, hold off another year of Obamacare from business, so it hurts the working middle class more.

The democrats table every budget put forth, further hurting the recovery. The Democratic Party and Obama have lied to the American people about being able to keep their insurance, they have done nothing to create jobs, they increase taxes during a bad economy. It looks like Obama, who bought GMC, lowered GE's taxes to nothing, that helped insurance companies to great profits, is more for the rich than anyone else. Looks like Democrats have sold their soul to the highest bidder.

Again, the Demmies have who's interests at heart, it doesn't seem that they like the hard working middle class at all.

Care to address the misinformation about Reagan, EIC that you try to spread?

The misinformation essentially comes from FOX, which isn't new..and it's Saudi propaganda.

You conservatives have had nothing to do with forming this country and have been trying to destroy it ever since. Whether that be through the loyalists, torries, whigs, confederates, dixiecrats, john birchers, neocons, pnac or tea party..the name changes but the goal doesn't.

Keep watching FOXNews, I never watch it.

The rest of your post is more opinion based on your limited views.

Do you think dragon lady will address her lies, probably not huh?

Truth always hurts.

Conservatives have never been involved in anything positive.

It's always about tearing something down.

 

[Rozman]

JFK... "Ask not what your country can do for you"
Obama. Ask for everything you want your country to do for you and I will get right on that!

 

[Amelia]

Yeah that's why those who use Fox as their news source know less about current events than people who don't watch TV at all. Because Fox news is so full of misstatements, and outright lies that their viewers have no clue what's really going on in the world. Of course, if they told the truth, more people would be voting for the Democratic party, because the facts are that the Republicans don't have the best interests of the people of the United States as their over-riding concern. Their hearts and souls have been sold to the highest bidder.

I don't know anything about FOXNews. I wonder why you watch it if you find it so bad?

So high unemployment, hurting the middle class with increased health insurance rates, hold off another year of Obamacare from business, so it hurts the working middle class more.

The democrats table every budget put forth, further hurting the recovery. The Democratic Party and Obama have lied to the American people about being able to keep their insurance, they have done nothing to create jobs, they increase taxes during a bad economy. It looks like Obama, who bought GMC, lowered GE's taxes to nothing, that helped insurance companies to great profits, is more for the rich than anyone else. Looks like Democrats have sold their soul to the highest bidder.

Again, the Demmies have who's interests at heart, it doesn't seem that they like the hard working middle class at all.

Care to address the misinformation about Reagan, EIC that you try to spread?

The misinformation essentially comes from FOX, which isn't new..and it's Saudi propaganda.

You conservatives have had nothing to do with forming this country and have been trying to destroy it ever since. Whether that be through the loyalists, torries, whigs, confederates, dixiecrats, john birchers, neocons, pnac or tea party..the name changes but the goal doesn't.

Today's liberals had nothing to do with forming this country. Most of today's liberals couldn't do it. Too dependent on the government. Too fearful of stepping away from the safety net. Most conservatives couldn't do it -- what the founders did would have been hard for anyone to do again.

The labels are useless. It's not conservative or liberal to stand up for one's rights. Rightwingers and leftwingers both curb rights in exchange for some ostensible gain.

Who has a clue, left or right, about what JFK would think about what America looks like now? Has anyone mentioned in this thread how he was opposed to immigration policy which resulted in significant demographic changes to the country? And yet that's what people who claim to be carrying his banner support now.

The labels (when used as an excuse to insult) do injustice to what I _believe_ liberals believe JFK stood for.

 

[Papageorgio]

The misinformation essentially comes from FOX, which isn't new..and it's Saudi propaganda.

You conservatives have had nothing to do with forming this country and have been trying to destroy it ever since. Whether that be through the loyalists, torries, whigs, confederates, dixiecrats, john birchers, neocons, pnac or tea party..the name changes but the goal doesn't.

Keep watching FOXNews, I never watch it.

The rest of your post is more opinion based on your limited views.

Do you think dragon lady will address her lies, probably not huh?

Truth always hurts.

Conservatives have never been involved in anything positive.

It's always about tearing something down.

If you told the truth, yes, it would hurt, however you don't and you don't even expect other liberals to tell the truth or expect them to defend their statements. Which seems par for the course.

I missed when you were positive, the last I read from you was about someone being vain and you cut their life down. So please let me know when you are not tearing people down.

 

[Stephanie]

JFK was a liberal. If you hated Teddy's politics, you would have hated Jack and Bobby's too. Ted dedicated his public life to carrying out his two brother's unfinished agenda.

The Great Society was based on our slain President's New Frontier. The following were President Kennedy's agenda and proposals:

Civil Rights Bill
Medicare
War on Poverty

And JFK did not believe in trickle down economics.

JFK, The Demand-Side Tax Cutter

JFK lowered taxes, but supply-siders wrongly claim he's their patron saint.

"The Revenue Act of 1964 was aimed at the demand, rather than the supply, side of the economy," said Arthur Okun, one of Kennedy's economic advisers.

This distinction, taught in Economics 101, seldom makes it into the Washington sound-bite wars. A demand-side cut rests on the Keynesian theory that public consumption spurs economic activity. Government puts money in people's hands, as a temporary measure, so that they'll spend it. A supply-side cut sees business investment as the key to growth. Government gives money to businesses and wealthy individuals to invest, ultimately benefiting all Americans. Back in the early 1960s, tax cutting was as contentious as it is today, but it was liberal demand-siders who were calling for the cuts and generating the controversy.

When Kennedy ran for president in 1960 amid a sluggish economy, he vowed to "get the country moving again." After his election, his advisers, led by chief economist Walter Heller, urged a classically Keynesian solution: running a deficit to stimulate growth. (The $10 billion deficit Heller recommended, bold at the time, seems laughably small by today's standards.) In Keynesian theory, a tax cut aimed at consumers would have a "multiplier" effect, since each dollar that a taxpayer spent would go to another taxpayer, who would in effect spend it again—meaning the deficit would be short-lived.

At first Kennedy balked at Heller's Keynesianism. He even proposed a balanced budget in his first State of the Union address. But Heller and his team won over the president. By mid-1962 Kennedy had seen the Keynesian light, and in January 1963 he declared that "the enactment this year of tax reduction and tax reform overshadows all other domestic issues in this Congress."

The plan Kennedy's team drafted had many elements, including the closing of loopholes (the "tax reform" Kennedy spoke of).Ultimately, in the form that Lyndon Johnson signed into law, it reduced tax withholding rates, initiated a new standard deduction, and boosted the top deduction for child care expenses, among other provisions. It did lower the top tax bracket significantly, although from a vastly higher starting point than anything we've seen in recent years: 91 percent on marginal income greater than $400,000. And he cut it only to 70 percent, hardly the mark of a future Club for Growth member.

If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich.
President John F. Kennedy

Nobody hated JfK......
and I've been helping the poor for 45 years of my working life
so you all can take this how only you liberals are the saints for the poor
JfK wasn't any more special than any other President..He just wasn't the RADICAL that you liberals support and are today

 

[mudwhistle]

JFK was a liberal. If you hated Teddy's politics, you would have hated Jack and Bobby's too. Ted dedicated his public life to carrying out his two brother's unfinished agenda.

The Great Society was based on our slain President's New Frontier. The following were President Kennedy's agenda and proposals:

Civil Rights Bill
Medicare
War on Poverty

And JFK did not believe in trickle down economics.

JFK, The Demand-Side Tax Cutter

JFK lowered taxes, but supply-siders wrongly claim he's their patron saint.

"The Revenue Act of 1964 was aimed at the demand, rather than the supply, side of the economy," said Arthur Okun, one of Kennedy's economic advisers.

This distinction, taught in Economics 101, seldom makes it into the Washington sound-bite wars. A demand-side cut rests on the Keynesian theory that public consumption spurs economic activity. Government puts money in people's hands, as a temporary measure, so that they'll spend it. A supply-side cut sees business investment as the key to growth. Government gives money to businesses and wealthy individuals to invest, ultimately benefiting all Americans. Back in the early 1960s, tax cutting was as contentious as it is today, but it was liberal demand-siders who were calling for the cuts and generating the controversy.

When Kennedy ran for president in 1960 amid a sluggish economy, he vowed to "get the country moving again." After his election, his advisers, led by chief economist Walter Heller, urged a classically Keynesian solution: running a deficit to stimulate growth. (The $10 billion deficit Heller recommended, bold at the time, seems laughably small by today's standards.) In Keynesian theory, a tax cut aimed at consumers would have a "multiplier" effect, since each dollar that a taxpayer spent would go to another taxpayer, who would in effect spend it again—meaning the deficit would be short-lived.

At first Kennedy balked at Heller's Keynesianism. He even proposed a balanced budget in his first State of the Union address. But Heller and his team won over the president. By mid-1962 Kennedy had seen the Keynesian light, and in January 1963 he declared that "the enactment this year of tax reduction and tax reform overshadows all other domestic issues in this Congress."

The plan Kennedy's team drafted had many elements, including the closing of loopholes (the "tax reform" Kennedy spoke of).Ultimately, in the form that Lyndon Johnson signed into law, it reduced tax withholding rates, initiated a new standard deduction, and boosted the top deduction for child care expenses, among other provisions. It did lower the top tax bracket significantly, although from a vastly higher starting point than anything we've seen in recent years: 91 percent on marginal income greater than $400,000. And he cut it only to 70 percent, hardly the mark of a future Club for Growth member.

If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich.
President John F. Kennedy

Comparing Teddy to John is like comparing apples to oranges......

 

[LogikAndReazon]

Jfk. Bought election. Bay of pigs. Cuban missile crisis. Vietnnam. Classless husband. Another empty suit offering meaningless platitudes like hope. Still, heads above his drunken younger brother teddy, the fredo of the family.

 

[Stephanie]

Jfk. Bought election. Bay of pigs. Cuban missile crisis. Vietnnam. Classless husband. Another empty suit offering meaningless platitudes like hope. Still, heads above his drunken younger brother teddy, the fredo of the family.

and the rest of those in that clan of rapist, murderers, drug addicts, drug overdoses, drunken car running off bridges drowning women and leaving them in their cars...

all that family has done all their lives is SUCK off taxpayers for their living...And they're hailed as heroes for it

something wrong with our society

 

[JohnL.Burke]

Okay..first off..

I was posting about vilifying Edward Kennedy.

That continues to this day.

Secondly? Romney had an accident in France killing his passenger. You can google it.

Laura Bush had an accident that killed her ex boyfriend.

You can google that too.

You not very good at "gotcha" or much else.

Dope.

And John F. Kennedy DESCRIBED HIMSELF as a LIBERAL.

Anywho, you can't stick to the topic of your own thread, which was about John F. Kennedy. Given the list I generated of policy decisions made by him, his staff or his party, I'd say that aligns him with more with conservatives than liberals.

The sad part here is that you consider the man an object, not a role model. "Our Kennedy." How pathetic.

Of course, Laura Bush ran a stop sign. In 1963. And of course, Ted Kennedy had his moment in the Chappaquiddick in 1969. Funny I don't see you vilifying him at all.

Wait what?

The Topic of my thread is John Kennedy. A self described Liberal.

And no, most of the stuff he advocated for isn't within the realm of conservativism.

I didn't vilify either Laura Bush or Edward Kennedy. Neither have Liberals.

It's conservatives that seem to forget that both Laura Bush and Mitt Romney were involved in accidents that resulted in fatalities while labeling Edward Kennedy a criminal for his accident.

You do realize that Kennedy left the scene of the accident, right?

 

[JohnL.Burke]

It's liberals like rdean, and sallow that keep lying and are not honest.

Yeah that's why those who use Fox as their news source know less about current events than people who don't watch TV at all. Because Fox news is so full of misstatements, and outright lies that their viewers have no clue what's really going on in the world. Of course, if they told the truth, more people would be voting for the Democratic party, because the facts are that the Republicans don't have the best interests of the people of the United States as their over-riding concern. Their hearts and souls have been sold to the highest bidder.

LOL! This is the verbal equivalent of eating your own boogers.

 

[Stephanie]

It's liberals like rdean, and sallow that keep lying and are not honest.

Yeah that's why those who use Fox as their news source know less about current events than people who don't watch TV at all. Because Fox news is so full of misstatements, and outright lies that their viewers have no clue what's really going on in the world. Of course, if they told the truth, more people would be voting for the Democratic party, because the facts are that the Republicans don't have the best interests of the people of the United States as their over-riding concern. Their hearts and souls have been sold to the highest bidder.

LOL! This is the verbal equivalent of eating your own boogers.

or verbal diarrhea

 

[Plasmaball]

Jfk. Bought election. Bay of pigs. Cuban missile crisis. Vietnnam. Classless husband. Another empty suit offering meaningless platitudes like hope. Still, heads above his drunken younger brother teddy, the fredo of the family.

and the rest of those in that clan of rapist, murderers, drug addicts, drug overdoses, drunken car running off bridges drowning women and leaving them in their cars...

all that family has done all their lives is SUCK off taxpayers for their living...And they're hailed as heroes for it

something wrong with our society

Yes the fact you are still here is one of them

 

[Mertex]

'Surely you jest.

You have the most wealthy souls in America calling for public service. Tell me you realize this at the time.

Is that what you tell yourself so as not to feel guilty that you begrudge children food?

Really? You're playing the You-must-hate-children card? What happened? Run out of race cards or did you misplace your you-must-hate-the-elderly cards? Perhaps you have some you-hate-clean-water cards under the sofa cushions that you can play every time your argument is too vacuous to stand on its own. Personally, if I were you I would stick some war-on-women cards up my sleeve just in case you get boxed in by facts and reality.

Really? You're trying to tell me there is some other excuse other than not giving a damn, to cut programs that provide food for children? And, it's not my fault that the Republican party wants to hurt seniors, minorities, women and children, so, if you don't want those cards thrown at you, don't support such nonsense.

 

[Papageorgio]

Is that what you tell yourself so as not to feel guilty that you begrudge children food?

Really? You're playing the You-must-hate-children card? What happened? Run out of race cards or did you misplace your you-must-hate-the-elderly cards? Perhaps you have some you-hate-clean-water cards under the sofa cushions that you can play every time your argument is too vacuous to stand on its own. Personally, if I were you I would stick some war-on-women cards up my sleeve just in case you get boxed in by facts and reality.

Really? You're trying to tell me there is some other excuse other than not giving a damn, to cut programs that provide food for children? And, it's not my fault that the Republican party wants to hurt seniors, minorities, women and children, so, if you don't want those cards thrown at you, don't support such nonsense.

How many children have died of starvation due to Republican cuts? There are tons of resources for everyone to get food.

 

[Oldstyle]

Only someone with the limited intellect of Sallow would even CARE what Bill Maher thinks because most people realize that Maher is a Jon Stewart wannabe without the intelligence or the wit of Stewart.

 

[Stephanie]

Really? You're playing the You-must-hate-children card? What happened? Run out of race cards or did you misplace your you-must-hate-the-elderly cards? Perhaps you have some you-hate-clean-water cards under the sofa cushions that you can play every time your argument is too vacuous to stand on its own. Personally, if I were you I would stick some war-on-women cards up my sleeve just in case you get boxed in by facts and reality.

Really? You're trying to tell me there is some other excuse other than not giving a damn, to cut programs that provide food for children? And, it's not my fault that the Republican party wants to hurt seniors, minorities, women and children, so, if you don't want those cards thrown at you, don't support such nonsense.

How many children have died of starvation due to Republican cuts? There are tons of resources for everyone to get food.

Yes there is...We fell on hard time's just recently and I looked up charities that give out food
tons of them out there...But the liberal ideology, if it's not from the government it isn't WORTHY and that make people not caring

 

[Avatar4321]

Who on earth has ever claimed that Reagan is our Kennedy?