Our Obligation.

[AVG-JOE]

The obligation of We, The People to care for the truly incapable and the lazy.

Do The People at large have an obligation to care for those who can't or won't care for themselves?
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[AVG-JOE]

Do The People at large have an obligation to educate everyone?

Do We, The People have an interest in educating everyone? Should We?​

It's all about the Benjamins. The scratch, the money, the resources involved.

 

[AVG-JOE]

Average observation: Electing self-serving pricks to sort it out with profit driven industry lobbyists seems sadly inefficient.

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[Mac1958]

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Constitutional obligation? Not really. Moral obligation? Yeah, I think so, especially since we live in this country.

Seems to me it's about avoiding partisan, knee-jerk generalizing and finding the point of equilibrium between supporting those with lower capacities and making them too dependent; between taxing those with more resources and creating a drag on the dynamics of the economy.

I bet we could find that equilibrium if we could somehow find a way to marginalize the narcissistic partisan screamers who are creating all the noise.

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[Edgetho]

Average observation: Electing self-serving pricks to sort it out with profit driven industry lobbyists seems sadly inefficient.

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What industry doesn't have lobbyists?

 

[FA_Q2]

The obligation of We, The People to care for the truly incapable and the lazy.

Do The People at large have an obligation to care for those who can't or won't care for themselves?
​

Yes. Absolutely not.
Those are 2 VERY different situations.

 

[Sonny Clark]

The obligation of We, The People to care for the truly incapable and the lazy.

Do The People at large have an obligation to care for those who can't or won't care for themselves?
​

We have a humane obligation to the disabled, the elderly, the VETS, the handicapped, children, the homeless, the poor and needy, the less fortunate, and in some cases, the unemployed. We are a civil and humane people that takes care of our fellow man. We have homeless families that include small children, we have disabled VETS, we have elderly that can't take care of themselves, we have many disabled and those with other severe handicaps. We can't just turn our backs to them and let them starve to death, eat out of trash cans and dumpsters, and go without medical attention when needed. Yes, we are obligated. We're not a heartless and barbaric people.

Also, we have to consider mental conditions that prevent some from being productive members of society. And, we have those that simply have a very low IQ that can't be self-supporting. There are many reasons why people need help. Everyone is not blessed the same, nor afforded the same opportunities in life. Civilized man does not abandon his own.

 

[occupied]

The obligation of We, The People to care for the truly incapable and the lazy.

Do The People at large have an obligation to care for those who can't or won't care for themselves?
​

We have a humane obligation to the disabled, the elderly, the VETS, the handicapped, children, the homeless, the poor and needy, the less fortunate, and in some cases, the unemployed. We are a civil and humane people that takes care of our fellow man. We have homeless families that include small children, we have disabled VETS, we have elderly that can't take care of themselves, we have many disabled and those with other severe handicaps. We can't just turn our backs to them and let them starve to death, eat out of trash cans and dumpsters, and go without medical attention when needed. Yes, we are obligated. We're not a heartless and barbaric people.

Also, we have to consider mental conditions that prevent some from being productive members of society. And, we have those that simply have a very low IQ that can't be self-supporting. There are many reasons why people need help. Everyone is not blessed the same, nor afforded the same opportunities in life. Civilized man does not abandon his own.

There is also the lesson of the French Revolution. If a government allows too many people to go hungry and acts as if it does not care the elite may find themselves trying to be rich and powerful without their heads.

 

[Edgetho]

The obligation of We, The People to care for the truly incapable and the lazy.

Do The People at large have an obligation to care for those who can't or won't care for themselves?
​

We have a humane obligation to the disabled, the elderly, the VETS, the handicapped, children, the homeless, the poor and needy, the less fortunate, and in some cases, the unemployed. We are a civil and humane people that takes care of our fellow man. We have homeless families that include small children, we have disabled VETS, we have elderly that can't take care of themselves, we have many disabled and those with other severe handicaps. We can't just turn our backs to them and let them starve to death, eat out of trash cans and dumpsters, and go without medical attention when needed. Yes, we are obligated. We're not a heartless and barbaric people.

Also, we have to consider mental conditions that prevent some from being productive members of society. And, we have those that simply have a very low IQ that can't be self-supporting. There are many reasons why people need help. Everyone is not blessed the same, nor afforded the same opportunities in life. Civilized man does not abandon his own.

There is also the lesson of the French Revolution. If a government allows too many people to go hungry and acts as if it does not care the elite may find themselves trying to be rich and powerful without their heads.

How'd that work out for them?

You really have no clue, do you?

That's what I thought

 

[occupied]

The obligation of We, The People to care for the truly incapable and the lazy.

Do The People at large have an obligation to care for those who can't or won't care for themselves?
​

We have a humane obligation to the disabled, the elderly, the VETS, the handicapped, children, the homeless, the poor and needy, the less fortunate, and in some cases, the unemployed. We are a civil and humane people that takes care of our fellow man. We have homeless families that include small children, we have disabled VETS, we have elderly that can't take care of themselves, we have many disabled and those with other severe handicaps. We can't just turn our backs to them and let them starve to death, eat out of trash cans and dumpsters, and go without medical attention when needed. Yes, we are obligated. We're not a heartless and barbaric people.

Also, we have to consider mental conditions that prevent some from being productive members of society. And, we have those that simply have a very low IQ that can't be self-supporting. There are many reasons why people need help. Everyone is not blessed the same, nor afforded the same opportunities in life. Civilized man does not abandon his own.

There is also the lesson of the French Revolution. If a government allows too many people to go hungry and acts as if it does not care the elite may find themselves trying to be rich and powerful without their heads.

How'd that work out for them?

You really have no clue, do you?

That's what I thought

I know history, but French royalty ended up just as dead because they ignored the hardship they had caused through their negligence. I said nothing about the horrible aftermath.

 

[Skull Pilot]

The obligation of We, The People to care for the truly incapable and the lazy.

Do The People at large have an obligation to care for those who can't or won't care for themselves?
​

We have a humane obligation to the disabled, the elderly, the VETS, the handicapped, children, the homeless, the poor and needy, the less fortunate, and in some cases, the unemployed. We are a civil and humane people that takes care of our fellow man. We have homeless families that include small children, we have disabled VETS, we have elderly that can't take care of themselves, we have many disabled and those with other severe handicaps. We can't just turn our backs to them and let them starve to death, eat out of trash cans and dumpsters, and go without medical attention when needed. Yes, we are obligated. We're not a heartless and barbaric people.

Also, we have to consider mental conditions that prevent some from being productive members of society. And, we have those that simply have a very low IQ that can't be self-supporting. There are many reasons why people need help. Everyone is not blessed the same, nor afforded the same opportunities in life. Civilized man does not abandon his own.

There is also the lesson of the French Revolution. If a government allows too many people to go hungry and acts as if it does not care the elite may find themselves trying to be rich and powerful without their heads.

Yes because we are so much like 18th century France.

Idiot

 

[Anathema]

The obligation of We, The People to care for the truly incapable and the lazy.

Do The People at large have an obligation to care for those who can't or won't care for themselves?
​

NO. The People do NOT have an obligation, either as a Society or as Individuals to care for ANYONE other than Themselves. You have the OPTION to do so, if you wish; but forcing anyone else to do so is Wrong.

 

[martybegan]

The obligation of We, The People to care for the truly incapable and the lazy.

Do The People at large have an obligation to care for those who can't or won't care for themselves?
​

We have a humane obligation to the disabled, the elderly, the VETS, the handicapped, children, the homeless, the poor and needy, the less fortunate, and in some cases, the unemployed. We are a civil and humane people that takes care of our fellow man. We have homeless families that include small children, we have disabled VETS, we have elderly that can't take care of themselves, we have many disabled and those with other severe handicaps. We can't just turn our backs to them and let them starve to death, eat out of trash cans and dumpsters, and go without medical attention when needed. Yes, we are obligated. We're not a heartless and barbaric people.

Also, we have to consider mental conditions that prevent some from being productive members of society. And, we have those that simply have a very low IQ that can't be self-supporting. There are many reasons why people need help. Everyone is not blessed the same, nor afforded the same opportunities in life. Civilized man does not abandon his own.

The problem is that when government pays for some type of behavior, it is actually encouraging it. If you make it comfortable to be a fuck up, people will see no incentive NOT to be a fuck-up.

When it comes to able bodied people sucking at the government teat, the key component progressives leave out is SHAME. you should be fucking ashamed if you are able bodied and can't work, or if you have tons of kids and can't support them on your own. However, we can't do that because progressives get collective sand in their assholes the second people want to make being on the dole something you WANT to get off of, instead of something that perpetuates more poverty, and more government dependence (and of course more votes for those who find the welfare state just dandy).

 

[occupied]

The obligation of We, The People to care for the truly incapable and the lazy.

Do The People at large have an obligation to care for those who can't or won't care for themselves?
​

We have a humane obligation to the disabled, the elderly, the VETS, the handicapped, children, the homeless, the poor and needy, the less fortunate, and in some cases, the unemployed. We are a civil and humane people that takes care of our fellow man. We have homeless families that include small children, we have disabled VETS, we have elderly that can't take care of themselves, we have many disabled and those with other severe handicaps. We can't just turn our backs to them and let them starve to death, eat out of trash cans and dumpsters, and go without medical attention when needed. Yes, we are obligated. We're not a heartless and barbaric people.

Also, we have to consider mental conditions that prevent some from being productive members of society. And, we have those that simply have a very low IQ that can't be self-supporting. There are many reasons why people need help. Everyone is not blessed the same, nor afforded the same opportunities in life. Civilized man does not abandon his own.

There is also the lesson of the French Revolution. If a government allows too many people to go hungry and acts as if it does not care the elite may find themselves trying to be rich and powerful without their heads.

Yes because we are so much like 18th century France.

Idiot

We are not like 18th century France because we actually try to alleviate hunger and suffering in our population much to the dismay of conservatives who seem to want us to be like 18th century France and let hunger go unchecked.

 

[Edgetho]

The obligation of We, The People to care for the truly incapable and the lazy.

Do The People at large have an obligation to care for those who can't or won't care for themselves?
​

We have a humane obligation to the disabled, the elderly, the VETS, the handicapped, children, the homeless, the poor and needy, the less fortunate, and in some cases, the unemployed. We are a civil and humane people that takes care of our fellow man. We have homeless families that include small children, we have disabled VETS, we have elderly that can't take care of themselves, we have many disabled and those with other severe handicaps. We can't just turn our backs to them and let them starve to death, eat out of trash cans and dumpsters, and go without medical attention when needed. Yes, we are obligated. We're not a heartless and barbaric people.

Also, we have to consider mental conditions that prevent some from being productive members of society. And, we have those that simply have a very low IQ that can't be self-supporting. There are many reasons why people need help. Everyone is not blessed the same, nor afforded the same opportunities in life. Civilized man does not abandon his own.

There is also the lesson of the French Revolution. If a government allows too many people to go hungry and acts as if it does not care the elite may find themselves trying to be rich and powerful without their heads.

How'd that work out for them?

You really have no clue, do you?

That's what I thought

I know history, but French royalty ended up just as dead because they ignored the hardship they had caused through their negligence. I said nothing about the horrible aftermath.

The Bourbons regained power in 1815.

How'd that Revolution work out for them?

We gave them the format, we showed them how to do it right, we led the way, we instructed them on how to form a government, how to civilize a rebellious People and what do the Froggies do?

They screw it up. All they managed to do was turn the Jacobins into communists, enable Karl the moron Marx, invent Fascism, Nazism and pave the way for Stalin's murder of tens of Millions of people. Not to mention Mao, Pol Pot and half a dozen other mass-murderers.

Nice going, scumbags.

Fuck the French. Their men are only good for moving target practice for Germans once every generation or so and their women are born with their legs already spread.

They had a chance to do it right and bungled it. Like they bungle practically everything they do.

Except cook. They can cook. Outside that, they're pretty worthless.

 

[Old Rocks]

Dumb ass, with the help of the French, there would be no United States.

 

[Edgetho]

I'm losing interest in trying to educate morons so here's another fact I've been trying to tell people for years....

The French Revolution gave rise to the vast majority of the evils of the 20th Century.

Not just communism, which nobody doubts is the bastard son of the whore calle the French Revolution. But Fascism and its close cousin Nazism.

Check it out;

A contemporary image of the French Fasces, circa 1803

Chapter 12 Page 10

Now you know where the word 'Fascist' came from. Let's see how long it takes you to forget.

Fascism, Nazism, communism, socialism, democratic socialism, social democracy.....?

They all have the same whore of a mother -- The French Revolution. And they are ALL closely related.

 

[Edgetho]

Dumb ass, with the help of the French, there would be no United States.

Stupid bastard.

They weren't the same people. It was the French KING that helped us, not the French communists.

Damn but you people are stupid.

 

[Old Rocks]

Talk of stupid, it was the attempt in Prussia to overthrow the monarchy, and the resultant murder of those in that attempt, that inspired Marx to write the Manifesto.

 

[hortysir]

Only 8 posts before derailment happened.