Over 50% of US babies were born on Medicaid

[Timmy]

Be responsible, you idiot. Birth control is everywhere at no charge, USE IT!!!

Good grief do you ever think before you post? If you're on Medicaid don't get PG you're in no financial shape to be raising kids. Trust me it takes a ton of money.

Typical conservatives. You have all kinds of opinions but no SOLUTIONS!

Their solution is to let them die or force the father to work 3 jobs.

Conservatives are fucking evil

So you want someone else to work 3 jobs and support your children because you "won't," or can't?

I don't want anyone's children to die, but I want you to put forth, as you expect me to put forth, the effort to contribute to supporting your children's needs.

So what to do ? Simple question.

What to do?

We've been doing it.

Health insurance.

Medicaid.

Food stamps.

Housing vouchers.

Job training.

Education.

The list goes on.

The poor in this country are rich to those from 3rd world counties.

I'm all for helping you feed and house your children.

But you better put forth some effort.

Is that so tedious to you?

How about making them get health insurance ? That's putting forth some effort .

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Actually, why should insurance cover child care at all? It's totally elective . Might as well pay for nose jobs .

Why should other insured pay for it ? The only people who should have kids are those who can pay for it out of pocket .

Insurance has contracts. You BUY a contract that covers child birth. It will probably cost you more than buying insurance that doesn't cover child birth, but there is nothing wrong with insurance that wishes to offer such plans.

 

[Timmy]

Be responsible, you idiot. Birth control is everywhere at no charge, USE IT!!!

Good grief do you ever think before you post? If you're on Medicaid don't get PG you're in no financial shape to be raising kids. Trust me it takes a ton of money.

Typical conservatives. You have all kinds of opinions but no SOLUTIONS!

Their solution is to let them die or force the father to work 3 jobs.

Conservatives are fucking evil

So you want someone else to work 3 jobs and support your children because you "won't," or can't?

I don't want anyone's children to die, but I want you to put forth, as you expect me to put forth, the effort to contribute to supporting your children's needs.

So what to do ? Simple question.

Simple answer: if you apply for any kind of public assistance, you don't get a dime until you are fixed first. Problem solved.

Well at lest that's an answer ! A terrible one , but an answer none the less.

Really ? How many people can afford to pay for child birth on your own.

 

[Reasonable]

When I get into debates with liberals about our social programs, it doesn't take long for a few to chime in and tell us about some unfortunate person who had children and then lost control over supporting them. Yeah, I'm sure that's the typical case.

On the right, we have asserted that this is not the typical case. The typical case is poor people having children knowing they can't afford them, but have them anyhow because we working people will have to support them.

That debate is now over. In over half of the states across the country, over 50% of babies are born using Medicaid, further proof that the so-called poor have more children than do the working on average. Either that, or half of the country is on Medicaid. Either way, something has to change.

In almost half of the United States, 50% or more babies born were on Medicaid

Let them die, right?
Oh right you're pro life.
Ha ha ha
You're so confused.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

How is iberalism sustainable when 47% of the population pay no taxes and 50% of babies born are born on Medicaid?

And then to show what a great vision The Left has for America, They want to soak Corporate America with both punitive taxes, open borders, and a $15 an hour minimum wage.

McDonalds will install Kiosks and Farmers will just buy robots, and the Welfare State will expand until it isn't worth anyone's time or effort to have a job.

When I get into debates with liberals about our social programs, it doesn't take long for a few to chime in and tell us about some unfortunate person who had children and then lost control over supporting them. Yeah, I'm sure that's the typical case.

On the right, we have asserted that this is not the typical case. The typical case is poor people having children knowing they can't afford them, but have them anyhow because we working people will have to support them.

That debate is now over. In over half of the states across the country, over 50% of babies are born using Medicaid, further proof that the so-called poor have more children than do the working on average. Either that, or half of the country is on Medicaid. Either way, something has to change.

In almost half of the United States, 50% or more babies born were on Medicaid

How many $7 hour workers have babies without the help of Medicade ?

I don't know, but none of them should have babies until they are out of those seven buck an hour jobs and can afford to have them.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Typical conservatives. You have all kinds of opinions but no SOLUTIONS!

Their solution is to let them die or force the father to work 3 jobs.

Conservatives are fucking evil

So you want someone else to work 3 jobs and support your children because you "won't," or can't?

I don't want anyone's children to die, but I want you to put forth, as you expect me to put forth, the effort to contribute to supporting your children's needs.

So what to do ? Simple question.

Simple answer: if you apply for any kind of public assistance, you don't get a dime until you are fixed first. Problem solved.

Well at lest that's an answer ! A terrible one , but an answer none the less.

Really ? How many people can afford to pay for child birth on your own.

You don't follow along very well, do you? As I said, if you plan on having children, make sure you have a health insurance plan that covers it.

And why is my solution so terrible?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

When I get into debates with liberals about our social programs, it doesn't take long for a few to chime in and tell us about some unfortunate person who had children and then lost control over supporting them. Yeah, I'm sure that's the typical case.

On the right, we have asserted that this is not the typical case. The typical case is poor people having children knowing they can't afford them, but have them anyhow because we working people will have to support them.

That debate is now over. In over half of the states across the country, over 50% of babies are born using Medicaid, further proof that the so-called poor have more children than do the working on average. Either that, or half of the country is on Medicaid. Either way, something has to change.

In almost half of the United States, 50% or more babies born were on Medicaid

Sorry bub I don't even have to read the article it's not all poor people without a job that get medicaid for the
first year of life. I know for a fact in my state regardless if the woman makes $50,000 or $5,000 a year if they have no insurance the baby is born with Medicaid and normally stays on a year or two. So your bullshit article of lazy no good poor people is wrong. And it's been run by republicans for many years and also red.

I would sure love a link that states women who make 50K a year get Medicaid. If that is the case, then this country is in need of some serious overhauling. The idea that working people have to pay taxes to pay for the childbirth of a mother that makes 50K a year is what's wrong with Democrats and socialism.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

If you're on Medicaid you don't need to be having babies. Get situated in life then start a family

Sometimes, shit happens when you don't want it to.

Sure, they simply have no control over getting pregnant. They were just sleeping by a tree one day and woke up pregnant.

 

[debbiedowner]

When I get into debates with liberals about our social programs, it doesn't take long for a few to chime in and tell us about some unfortunate person who had children and then lost control over supporting them. Yeah, I'm sure that's the typical case.

On the right, we have asserted that this is not the typical case. The typical case is poor people having children knowing they can't afford them, but have them anyhow because we working people will have to support them.

That debate is now over. In over half of the states across the country, over 50% of babies are born using Medicaid, further proof that the so-called poor have more children than do the working on average. Either that, or half of the country is on Medicaid. Either way, something has to change.

In almost half of the United States, 50% or more babies born were on Medicaid

Sorry bub I don't even have to read the article it's not all poor people without a job that get medicaid for the
first year of life. I know for a fact in my state regardless if the woman makes $50,000 or $5,000 a year if they have no insurance the baby is born with Medicaid and normally stays on a year or two. So your bullshit article of lazy no good poor people is wrong. And it's been run by republicans for many years and also red.

I would sure love a link that states women who make 50K a year get Medicaid. If that is the case, then this country is in need of some serious overhauling. The idea that working people have to pay taxes to pay for the childbirth of a mother that makes 50K a year is what's wrong with Democrats and socialism.

You spew your bullshit and you want me to provide a link, do your due diligence and research what state will cover a working woman, if uninsured, by Medicaid when she is pregnant cover the baby at birth and then cover the mother up to 1 year and then the mother is kicked off. Like I said not all are fat poor people as you think. Some just down on their luck and don't have insurance.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

When I get into debates with liberals about our social programs, it doesn't take long for a few to chime in and tell us about some unfortunate person who had children and then lost control over supporting them. Yeah, I'm sure that's the typical case.

On the right, we have asserted that this is not the typical case. The typical case is poor people having children knowing they can't afford them, but have them anyhow because we working people will have to support them.

That debate is now over. In over half of the states across the country, over 50% of babies are born using Medicaid, further proof that the so-called poor have more children than do the working on average. Either that, or half of the country is on Medicaid. Either way, something has to change.

In almost half of the United States, 50% or more babies born were on Medicaid

Well, repugs are opposed to abortion, birth control, planned parenthood, and sex education. You expected a different outcome?

They really are mean spirited selfish a -holes.

Imagine being upset over government assistance for safe child birth! CHILD BIRTH!!!!

You didn't get my point did you?

What these statistics show is that lowlifes are having children they can't afford and know it. In the meantime, working people who limit their family size according to their income cannot have family sizes they would like.

Don't you think there is something seriously wrong with our society when the non-working have more liberties than the working?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

When I get into debates with liberals about our social programs, it doesn't take long for a few to chime in and tell us about some unfortunate person who had children and then lost control over supporting them. Yeah, I'm sure that's the typical case.

On the right, we have asserted that this is not the typical case. The typical case is poor people having children knowing they can't afford them, but have them anyhow because we working people will have to support them.

That debate is now over. In over half of the states across the country, over 50% of babies are born using Medicaid, further proof that the so-called poor have more children than do the working on average. Either that, or half of the country is on Medicaid. Either way, something has to change.

In almost half of the United States, 50% or more babies born were on Medicaid

Sorry bub I don't even have to read the article it's not all poor people without a job that get medicaid for the
first year of life. I know for a fact in my state regardless if the woman makes $50,000 or $5,000 a year if they have no insurance the baby is born with Medicaid and normally stays on a year or two. So your bullshit article of lazy no good poor people is wrong. And it's been run by republicans for many years and also red.

I would sure love a link that states women who make 50K a year get Medicaid. If that is the case, then this country is in need of some serious overhauling. The idea that working people have to pay taxes to pay for the childbirth of a mother that makes 50K a year is what's wrong with Democrats and socialism.

You spew your bullshit and you want me to provide a link, do your due diligence and research what state will cover a working woman, if uninsured, by Medicaid when she is pregnant cover the baby at birth and then cover the mother up to 1 year and then the mother is kicked off. Like I said not all are fat poor people as you think. Some just down on their luck and don't have insurance.

If they are down on their luck and don't have insurance, WTF are they having children????

Maybe you don't understand how forums work: when you make a claim and somebody challenges your claim, it's up to you to provide proof of it, not the challenger unless you are totally FOS and can't prove it.

 

[Yousaidwhat]

You dopes are the same guys who say people shouldn't be forced to get health insurance . So young people don't get health insurance . Guess who has babies ??? YOUNG HEALTHY PEOLPLE!

Yes, it's true we put a lot of aid into having healthy babies . Why ? Because it's the right thing to do AND it saves the taxpayer in the long run.

Unless you'd rather have sick babies being born ? Penny wise , pound foolish .

Easy fix, if you can't support your self don't have a damn baby, it ain't my place to pay, get your ass to work and support the life you made, it's yours not tax payers.


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Insensitive prick.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

When I get into debates with liberals about our social programs, it doesn't take long for a few to chime in and tell us about some unfortunate person who had children and then lost control over supporting them. Yeah, I'm sure that's the typical case.

On the right, we have asserted that this is not the typical case. The typical case is poor people having children knowing they can't afford them, but have them anyhow because we working people will have to support them.

That debate is now over. In over half of the states across the country, over 50% of babies are born using Medicaid, further proof that the so-called poor have more children than do the working on average. Either that, or half of the country is on Medicaid. Either way, something has to change.

In almost half of the United States, 50% or more babies born were on Medicaid

Sorry bub I don't even have to read the article it's not all poor people without a job that get medicaid for the
first year of life. I know for a fact in my state regardless if the woman makes $50,000 or $5,000 a year if they have no insurance the baby is born with Medicaid and normally stays on a year or two. So your bullshit article of lazy no good poor people is wrong. And it's been run by republicans for many years and also red.

I would sure love a link that states women who make 50K a year get Medicaid. If that is the case, then this country is in need of some serious overhauling. The idea that working people have to pay taxes to pay for the childbirth of a mother that makes 50K a year is what's wrong with Democrats and socialism.

You spew your bullshit and you want me to provide a link, do your due diligence and research what state will cover a working woman, if uninsured, by Medicaid when she is pregnant cover the baby at birth and then cover the mother up to 1 year and then the mother is kicked off. Like I said not all are fat poor people as you think. Some just down on their luck and don't have insurance.

If they are down on their luck and don't have insurance, WTF are they having children????

Maybe you don't understand how forums work: when you make a claim and somebody challenges your claim, it's up to you to provide proof of it, not the challenger unless you are totally FOS and can't prove it.

I Googled three states, someone making 50k wouldn't qualify. I'm not Googling all 57 states

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

When I get into debates with liberals about our social programs, it doesn't take long for a few to chime in and tell us about some unfortunate person who had children and then lost control over supporting them. Yeah, I'm sure that's the typical case.

On the right, we have asserted that this is not the typical case. The typical case is poor people having children knowing they can't afford them, but have them anyhow because we working people will have to support them.

That debate is now over. In over half of the states across the country, over 50% of babies are born using Medicaid, further proof that the so-called poor have more children than do the working on average. Either that, or half of the country is on Medicaid. Either way, something has to change.

In almost half of the United States, 50% or more babies born were on Medicaid

Well, repugs are opposed to abortion, birth control, planned parenthood, and sex education. You expected a different outcome?

What are you talking about? Planned Parenthood is alive and well, abortion is legal, and sex education is taught in our public schools, and we still have this outcome. Anything else you would like to point out for us?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

You dopes are the same guys who say people shouldn't be forced to get health insurance . So young people don't get health insurance . Guess who has babies ??? YOUNG HEALTHY PEOLPLE!

Yes, it's true we put a lot of aid into having healthy babies . Why ? Because it's the right thing to do AND it saves the taxpayer in the long run.

Unless you'd rather have sick babies being born ? Penny wise , pound foolish .

The apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Middle-class people usually end up with middle-class children when they become adults. Upper middle-class people usually end up with upper middle-class children when they become adults. Wealthy people usually end up with wealthy children when they become adults. Nothing different about the poor.

So what our social system does is reward the poor to procreate more poor people, and then the libs sit back and can't figure out why we can't solve poverty.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

This is an exercise in propaganda vs reality. Read the headline again. You might think it says 50% of US babies were born on Medicaid but what it says is much different. It seems that only five states have a majority birth rate that is compensated by Medicaid.

From Commie Slate:

Half of American Births Are Covered by Medicaid. Conservatives Blame the Mothers.

In almost half of the United States, 50% or more babies born were on Medicaid

Half of states report 50% or more of births financed by Medicaid

You see I heard of this statistic on evil Right Wing radio today and didn't believe it myself. So I did research the subject before I created a thread on it.

 

[Yousaidwhat]

Typical conservatives. You have all kinds of opinions but no SOLUTIONS!

Their solution is to let them die or force the father to work 3 jobs.

Conservatives are fucking evil

So you want someone else to work 3 jobs and support your children because you "won't," or can't?

I don't want anyone's children to die, but I want you to put forth, as you expect me to put forth, the effort to contribute to supporting your children's needs.

So what to do ? Simple question.

What to do?

We've been doing it.

Health insurance.

Medicaid.

Food stamps.

Housing vouchers.

Job training.

Education.

The list goes on.

The poor in this country are rich to those from 3rd world counties.

I'm all for helping you feed and house your children.

But you better put forth some effort.

Is that so tedious to you?

How about making them get health insurance ? That's putting forth some effort .

I'm all for them having to have insurance and them paying for it.

But we'll subsidize that also.

Now. With a little more effort we can feed them together.

And a little more effort we can keep a roof over the children's heads.

We are almost there.

With a little more effort we find we can feed, clothe, and house our own children without demanding I put forth more effort than you.

Am I being too tedious?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

When I get into debates with liberals about our social programs, it doesn't take long for a few to chime in and tell us about some unfortunate person who had children and then lost control over supporting them. Yeah, I'm sure that's the typical case.

On the right, we have asserted that this is not the typical case. The typical case is poor people having children knowing they can't afford them, but have them anyhow because we working people will have to support them.

That debate is now over. In over half of the states across the country, over 50% of babies are born using Medicaid, further proof that the so-called poor have more children than do the working on average. Either that, or half of the country is on Medicaid. Either way, something has to change.

In almost half of the United States, 50% or more babies born were on Medicaid

Sorry bub I don't even have to read the article it's not all poor people without a job that get medicaid for the
first year of life. I know for a fact in my state regardless if the woman makes $50,000 or $5,000 a year if they have no insurance the baby is born with Medicaid and normally stays on a year or two. So your bullshit article of lazy no good poor people is wrong. And it's been run by republicans for many years and also red.

I would sure love a link that states women who make 50K a year get Medicaid. If that is the case, then this country is in need of some serious overhauling. The idea that working people have to pay taxes to pay for the childbirth of a mother that makes 50K a year is what's wrong with Democrats and socialism.

You spew your bullshit and you want me to provide a link, do your due diligence and research what state will cover a working woman, if uninsured, by Medicaid when she is pregnant cover the baby at birth and then cover the mother up to 1 year and then the mother is kicked off. Like I said not all are fat poor people as you think. Some just down on their luck and don't have insurance.

If they are down on their luck and don't have insurance, WTF are they having children????

Maybe you don't understand how forums work: when you make a claim and somebody challenges your claim, it's up to you to provide proof of it, not the challenger unless you are totally FOS and can't prove it.

I Googled three states, someone making 50k wouldn't qualify. I'm not Googling all 57 states

Don't bother. I'm sure Debby made that up out of thin air as polluted as it is.

 

[Yousaidwhat]

When I get into debates with liberals about our social programs, it doesn't take long for a few to chime in and tell us about some unfortunate person who had children and then lost control over supporting them. Yeah, I'm sure that's the typical case.

On the right, we have asserted that this is not the typical case. The typical case is poor people having children knowing they can't afford them, but have them anyhow because we working people will have to support them.

That debate is now over. In over half of the states across the country, over 50% of babies are born using Medicaid, further proof that the so-called poor have more children than do the working on average. Either that, or half of the country is on Medicaid. Either way, something has to change.

In almost half of the United States, 50% or more babies born were on Medicaid

Let them die, right?
Oh right you're pro life.
Ha ha ha
You're so confused.

 

[WEATHER53]

Cradle to grave government dependence was Obamas big sell and anybody that made objections was racist.
Trumps working to toss that and all the loathing of Trump here has a lot to do with that