Palestine Today

[Shusha]

No treaty or agreement can allow the violation of international law.

The formulation of treaties is the BASIS of international law between States and prospective States.

 

[P F Tinmore]

No treaty or agreement can allow the violation of international law.

The formulation of treaties is the BASIS of international law between States and prospective States.

It is true that the creation of international law is evolutionary. However, they cannot violate established rights.

 

[Shusha]

No treaty or agreement can allow the violation of international law.

The formulation of treaties is the BASIS of international law between States and prospective States.

It is true that the creation of international law is evolutionary. However, they cannot violate established rights.

Treaties between States has been the basis of international law for centuries.

 

[Hollie]

No treaty or agreement can allow the violation of international law.

The formulation of treaties is the BASIS of international law between States and prospective States.

It is true that the creation of international law is evolutionary. However, they cannot violate established rights.

You’re rattling off slogans while being unable to identify any rights violation.

Isn’t there a Press TV YouTube video available? Islamic totalitarian theocrats are where I turn to for examples of conformance with international law.

 

[P F Tinmore]

No treaty or agreement can allow the violation of international law.

The formulation of treaties is the BASIS of international law between States and prospective States.

It is true that the creation of international law is evolutionary. However, they cannot violate established rights.

You’re rattling off slogans while being unable to identify any rights violation.

Isn’t there a Press TV YouTube video available? Islamic totalitarian theocrats are where I turn to for examples of conformance with international law.

 

[Shusha]

See Article 53 of the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties between States 1986.

And then support your claim that the Oslo Accords are void using international legal norms.

Don't try to pull off any crap about territorial integrity. Because Yugoslavia. Czechoslovakia. USSR. India. Sudan. Etc. Etc. Etc.

 

[Hollie]

No treaty or agreement can allow the violation of international law.

The formulation of treaties is the BASIS of international law between States and prospective States.

It is true that the creation of international law is evolutionary. However, they cannot violate established rights.

You’re rattling off slogans while being unable to identify any rights violation.

Isn’t there a Press TV YouTube video available? Islamic totalitarian theocrats are where I turn to for examples of conformance with international law.

Indeed. I just find it comical that you dump the same worn out cliches into most threads but when pressed to compose a coherent argument, you’re left to cut and paste emojis.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Article 53 Treaties Conflicting With A Peremptory Norm Of General International Law (Jus Cogens)
A treaty is void if, at the time of its conclusion, it conflicts with a peremptory norm of general international law.​

That's what I said.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Israeli settlers burned 300 olive trees owned by Palestinian farmers near #Nablus yesterday!

Palestine Observer

 

[Hollie]

Speaking of setting fires:

 

[Hollie]

Article 53 Treaties Conflicting With A Peremptory Norm Of General International Law (Jus Cogens)
A treaty is void if, at the time of its conclusion, it conflicts with a peremptory norm of general international law.​

That's what I said.

That’s what you cut and pasted.

Where’s the YouTube video?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Calling Israel racist isn’t anti-Semitic, rules UK Labour

Palestine solidarity campaigners have welcomed
new rules on anti-Semitism passed by the British Labour Party’s ruling executive this week.

Left-wing group Jewish Voice for Labour gave the new rules a cautious welcome, saying in a statement that the code of conduct “offers a constructive framework for moving forward in this difficult area.”

But Israel lobby groups were furious on Wednesday, as details of the new rules emerged.

The new Labour code of conduct on anti-Semitism strips out several of the most damaging clauses of the controversial “working definition” on anti-Semitism published by the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance (IHRA).

Calling Israel racist isn't anti-Semitic, rules UK Labour

 

[Hollie]

Calling Israel racist isn’t anti-Semitic, rules UK Labour

Palestine solidarity campaigners have welcomed
new rules on anti-Semitism passed by the British Labour Party’s ruling executive this week.

Left-wing group Jewish Voice for Labour gave the new rules a cautious welcome, saying in a statement that the code of conduct “offers a constructive framework for moving forward in this difficult area.”

But Israel lobby groups were furious on Wednesday, as details of the new rules emerged.

The new Labour code of conduct on anti-Semitism strips out several of the most damaging clauses of the controversial “working definition” on anti-Semitism published by the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance (IHRA).

Calling Israel racist isn't anti-Semitic, rules UK Labour

Israel is not a “race” and Jewish is not a “race”.

What’s on YouTube?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Ending colonialism in Palestine

Why Palestine Matters: The Struggle to End Colonialism, a new study guide distributed by the Israel/Palestine Mission Network of the Presbyterian Church (USA), represents a significant breakthrough for faith-based groups acting as advocates for Palestinian rights. The guide pinpoints settler colonialism as the underlying basis for Israeli apartheid while also advocating vigorously for an intersectional approach to unify struggles for human rights.

Why does a focus on colonialism matter? For one, it undermines the seemingly “common sense” narrative of Israel as the savior of the Jewish people following the Holocaust during World War II and instead places the largely Western support for the fledgling state in the context of empire.

The history of settler-colonial societies illustrates a pattern of controlling the land and expelling or eliminating the indigenous population. This study guide shows how the ethnic cleansing of the indigenous Palestinians that began in 1948 and continues today is part of that pattern. That the original imprimatur for the state of Israel came from British colonialism’s Balfour Declaration of 1917 is hardly coincidental.

Ending colonialism in Palestine

 

[Shusha]

Article 53 Treaties Conflicting With A Peremptory Norm Of General International Law (Jus Cogens)
A treaty is void if, at the time of its conclusion, it conflicts with a peremptory norm of general international law.​

That's what I said.

And I said you had to follow up with defending your case.

So DEFEND your case. What norms of general international law does the Oslo Accords conflict with? Be specific.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Presbyterian church body hits back hard at JCPA’s “anti-Semitism” smear over support for Palestinian rights

The Israel Palestine Mission Network (IPMN) of the Presbyterian Church (USA) has hit back strongly at a smear campaign from a major pro-Israel group aimed at portraying it as “anti-Semitic.”

In responding to allegations from the Jewish Council for Public Affairs (JCPA), IPMN stated:

The world where Israeli government policy cannot be criticized is a thing of the past. There is vigorous debate within the Jewish community around Israel’s military occupation, and groups like the JCPA and others are losing control of the narrative.

Presbyterian church body hits back hard at JCPA's "anti-Semitism" smear over support for Palestinian rights

 

[Hollie]

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Palestine Today
※→ P F Tinmore, Shusha, et al,

This is a very broad statement. I'm not sure that it is actually true. The set of International laws are only those that are accepted as binding in relations between states.

No treaty or agreement can allow the violation of international law.

(COMMENT)

The bulk if the International Law are contained (but not limited to) in the list of Customary and International Humanitarian Law (IHL), as well as the International Criminal Court - Rome Statues (ICC-RS), and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (UDHR), together with the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (CCRP) and its two Optional Protocols, and the International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights (CESCR), form the so-called International Bill of Human Rights (IBHR).

The Jurisdiction of Statues within The International Court of Justice established by the Charter of the United Nations comprises all cases which the parties refer to it and all matters specially provided for in the Charter of the United Nations or in treaties and conventions in force. The states parties to the present Statute may at any time declare that they recognize as compulsory ipso facto and without special agreement, in relation to any other state accepting the same obligation, the jurisdiction of the Court in all legal disputes concerning:

1. the interpretation of a treaty;
2. any question of international law;
3. the existence of any fact which, if established, would constitute a breach of an international obligation;
4. the nature or extent of the reparation to be made for the breach of an international obligation.

Then additionally, there are specialty courts, such as the Admiralty Courts. that hold jurisdiction over such laws as the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS) and the San Remo Manual on International Law Applicable to Armed Conflicts at Sea (SM-ILAAACS).

Then, of course, there are the 19 basic Universal Legal Instruments Dealing with Terrorism (CT-Laws).

The International Law Commission generally focuses on the program areas of work:

• Crimes against humanity*
  
• Immunity of State officials from the foreign criminal jurisdiction;
  
• Subsequent agreements and subsequent practice in relation to the interpretation of treaties
  
• Provisional application of treaties;
  
• Identification of customary international law
  
• Protection of the environment in relation to armed conflicts;
  
• Protection of the atmosphere;
  
• Peremptory norms of general international law (jus cogens);
  
• Succession of States in respect of State responsibility

The blanket statement that "No treaty or agreement can allow the violation of international law" must be in question, especially when it is used to justify acts and criminal behaviors conducted by an entity claiming to have governmental authority and mounting hostile operations against foreign civilian targets, against foreign powers, or terrorizing its own people.

The formulation of treaties is the BASIS of international law between States and prospective States.

It is true that the creation of international law is evolutionary. However, they cannot violate established rights.

(COMMENT)

Hummm... This is one of those political smoke screens. It is like saying Israel is not living-up to its Article 43 obligations (peace and security) when it is actually the Arab Palestinians that have incited violence and disrupted security. No one can argue this statement when its an allegation made by Jihadist, Fedayeen Activist, Hostile Insurgents, Radicalized Islamic Followers, and Asymmetric Fighters.

PLO-NAD Position: State to State

• Israel’s obligations and Palestinian rights with respect to State-to-State issues are enumerated under customary and treaty international law, including the Charter of the UN, the 1949 Fourth Geneva Convention and the 1907 Hague Regulations.
• Article 43 of the Hague Regulations requires the occupying power to “ensure, as far as possible, public order and safety, while respecting, unless absolutely prevented, the laws in force in the country.” This obligation is understood to engage a wide range of responsibility, including ensuring a stable commercial and economic life in the occupied territory.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

A village in danger of erasure

A photo essay of eliminating a village.

Maysam, 14, proudly gives a tour of al-Walaja village. “I love to be outside,” she says.
The picturesque Palestinian village of al-Walaja, located between Jerusalem and Bethlehem in the occupied West Bank, is known for its verdant landscape, agricultural terraces and numerous springs.

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Palestine Today
※→ P F Tinmore, Shusha, et al,

This is a very broad statement. I'm not sure that it is actually true. The set of International laws are only those that are accepted as binding in relations between states.

No treaty or agreement can allow the violation of international law.

(COMMENT)

The bulk if the International Law are contained (but not limited to) in the list of Customary and International Humanitarian Law (IHL), as well as the International Criminal Court - Rome Statues (ICC-RS), and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (UDHR), together with the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (CCRP) and its two Optional Protocols, and the International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights (CESCR), form the so-called International Bill of Human Rights (IBHR).

The Jurisdiction of Statues within The International Court of Justice established by the Charter of the United Nations comprises all cases which the parties refer to it and all matters specially provided for in the Charter of the United Nations or in treaties and conventions in force. The states parties to the present Statute may at any time declare that they recognize as compulsory ipso facto and without special agreement, in relation to any other state accepting the same obligation, the jurisdiction of the Court in all legal disputes concerning:

1. the interpretation of a treaty;
2. any question of international law;
3. the existence of any fact which, if established, would constitute a breach of an international obligation;
4. the nature or extent of the reparation to be made for the breach of an international obligation.

Then additionally, there are specialty courts, such as the Admiralty Courts. that hold jurisdiction over such laws as the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS) and the San Remo Manual on International Law Applicable to Armed Conflicts at Sea (SM-ILAAACS).

Then, of course, there are the 19 basic Universal Legal Instruments Dealing with Terrorism (CT-Laws).

The International Law Commission generally focuses on the program areas of work:

• Crimes against humanity*
  
• Immunity of State officials from the foreign criminal jurisdiction;
  
• Subsequent agreements and subsequent practice in relation to the interpretation of treaties
  
• Provisional application of treaties;
  
• Identification of customary international law
  
• Protection of the environment in relation to armed conflicts;
  
• Protection of the atmosphere;
  
• Peremptory norms of general international law (jus cogens);
  
• Succession of States in respect of State responsibility

The blanket statement that "No treaty or agreement can allow the violation of international law" must be in question, especially when it is used to justify acts and criminal behaviors conducted by an entity claiming to have governmental authority and mounting hostile operations against foreign civilian targets, against foreign powers, or terrorizing its own people.

The formulation of treaties is the BASIS of international law between States and prospective States.

It is true that the creation of international law is evolutionary. However, they cannot violate established rights.

(COMMENT)

Hummm... This is one of those political smoke screens. It is like saying Israel is not living-up to its Article 43 obligations (peace and security) when it is actually the Arab Palestinians that have incited violence and disrupted security. No one can argue this statement when its an allegation made by Jihadist, Fedayeen Activist, Hostile Insurgents, Radicalized Islamic Followers, and Asymmetric Fighters.

PLO-NAD Position: State to State

• Israel’s obligations and Palestinian rights with respect to State-to-State issues are enumerated under customary and treaty international law, including the Charter of the UN, the 1949 Fourth Geneva Convention and the 1907 Hague Regulations.
• Article 43 of the Hague Regulations requires the occupying power to “ensure, as far as possible, public order and safety, while respecting, unless absolutely prevented, the laws in force in the country.” This obligation is understood to engage a wide range of responsibility, including ensuring a stable commercial and economic life in the occupied territory.

Most Respectfully,
R

Holy smokescreen, Batman.

Where in all that verbosity do you refute my post?