Parkland resource officer charged with neglect, negligence related to school shooting

[Marion Morrison]

You talk about guns and do not like law enforcement/corrections/judicial fiefdoms.They will run amok if you get rid of weapons. They have destroyed countless people and even convinced citizens to destroy them. When confronted they circle the wagons and then become babies. They deserve to be encased in Gerbers Dry Babyfood dipped into a Lake until engorged and sunk to the bottom of the Lake.

Okay, buddy, you need to get your meds adjusted...

Hey, THIS is the problem, guys like THIS GUY can buy guns.

Cruz was also a Democrat.

 

[pismoe]

Due to Obama policies, and Chattahoochee is the State Mental Hospital. You may percieve that, but you're a warped douche anyways, so fuck you.

We can't put people in mental institutions without their permission... so there's that.

Guy did nothing wrong before he opened up with a machine gun, that's the point.

Locking that one up would have been the answer, you fucking dumbass! It could and should have been done before that crap happened.

We don't lock people up for what they MIGHT do.

This is still America, although I have to make a daily check to make sure we didn't become Russia West (A Trump Company).

--------------------------------------- yeah , and correct me if I am mistaken Joe but 'chief of police scott Israel of Broward County' was following 'mrobamas' policy of taking it easy on young offenders especially if they were minority . Purpose of that faulty mrobama' policy was to keep Police uninformed as the school and 'social workers would take care of criminal problem and that would leave the young minority criminal free of a criminal record . I hear that this Criminal kid had his house visited 47 [16 - 17 times actually] or so times because he was causing problems . Feel free to correct any misinformation if I am mistaken please JoeB .

 

[pismoe]

--- https://www.realclearinvestigations...cipline_policy_and_the_parkland_shooting.html --- just some info on 'mrobamas' policy of 'leniancy' for minority criminal students JoeB .

 

[SavannahMann]

Due to Obama policies, and Chattahoochee is the State Mental Hospital. You may percieve that, but you're a warped douche anyways, so fuck you.

We can't put people in mental institutions without their permission... so there's that.

Guy did nothing wrong before he opened up with a machine gun, that's the point.

Well we do. I would be surprised if any State did not have an involuntary commitment law. If the individual presents a danger to themselves or others, they can be involuntarily committed for a few days, usually three, to find out how screwed up they are in the head. After that, you need a judge to confirm the commitment.

[QUOTE}

Locking that one up would have been the answer, you fucking dumbass! It could and should have been done before that crap happened.

We don't lock people up for what they MIGHT do.

This is still America, although I have to make a daily check to make sure we didn't become Russia West (A Trump Company).[/QUOTE]

We we do lock people up for what they might do. People are arrested and convicted for planning terrorist attacks. People are arrested and convicted for a lot of things that they never actually do.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Due to Obama policies, and Chattahoochee is the State Mental Hospital. You may percieve that, but you're a warped douche anyways, so fuck you.

We can't put people in mental institutions without their permission... so there's that.

Guy did nothing wrong before he opened up with a machine gun, that's the point.

Well we do. I would be surprised if any State did not have an involuntary commitment law. If the individual presents a danger to themselves or others, they can be involuntarily committed for a few days, usually three, to find out how screwed up they are in the head. After that, you need a judge to confirm the commitment.

[QUOTE}

Locking that one up would have been the answer, you fucking dumbass! It could and should have been done before that crap happened.

We don't lock people up for what they MIGHT do.

This is still America, although I have to make a daily check to make sure we didn't become Russia West (A Trump Company).

We we do lock people up for what they might do. People are arrested and convicted for planning terrorist attacks. People are arrested and convicted for a lot of things that they never actually do.[/QUOTE]

Violent crazy people need removed from society to a safe place. Oh! Like Chattahoochee! Yeah!

They were for over a century until Big Pharma bribed greedy Congress to close State Mental Institutions and said their pills will do the trick. Back when America was great.

 

[SavannahMann]

Due to Obama policies, and Chattahoochee is the State Mental Hospital. You may percieve that, but you're a warped douche anyways, so fuck you.

We can't put people in mental institutions without their permission... so there's that.

Guy did nothing wrong before he opened up with a machine gun, that's the point.

Well we do. I would be surprised if any State did not have an involuntary commitment law. If the individual presents a danger to themselves or others, they can be involuntarily committed for a few days, usually three, to find out how screwed up they are in the head. After that, you need a judge to confirm the commitment.

[QUOTE}

Locking that one up would have been the answer, you fucking dumbass! It could and should have been done before that crap happened.

We don't lock people up for what they MIGHT do.

This is still America, although I have to make a daily check to make sure we didn't become Russia West (A Trump Company).

We we do lock people up for what they might do. People are arrested and convicted for planning terrorist attacks. People are arrested and convicted for a lot of things that they never actually do.

Violent crazy people need removed from society to a safe place. Oh! Like Chattahoochee! Yeah!

They were for over a century until Big Pharma bribed greedy Congress to close State Mental Institutions and said their pills will do the trick. Back when America was great.[/QUOTE]

Actually, that goes back to Ronald Reagan. Mental Health Systems Act of 1980 - Wikipedia

Carter signed the law, and gave a big boost to Mental Health treatment, Reagan cut the funding. Slashed it to nothing, flooding the streets with mental health patients. I think Reagan did a lot of things right, but that wasn’t one of them.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Due to Obama policies, and Chattahoochee is the State Mental Hospital. You may percieve that, but you're a warped douche anyways, so fuck you.

We can't put people in mental institutions without their permission... so there's that.

Guy did nothing wrong before he opened up with a machine gun, that's the point.

Well we do. I would be surprised if any State did not have an involuntary commitment law. If the individual presents a danger to themselves or others, they can be involuntarily committed for a few days, usually three, to find out how screwed up they are in the head. After that, you need a judge to confirm the commitment.

[QUOTE}

Locking that one up would have been the answer, you fucking dumbass! It could and should have been done before that crap happened.

We don't lock people up for what they MIGHT do.

This is still America, although I have to make a daily check to make sure we didn't become Russia West (A Trump Company).

We we do lock people up for what they might do. People are arrested and convicted for planning terrorist attacks. People are arrested and convicted for a lot of things that they never actually do.

Violent crazy people need removed from society to a safe place. Oh! Like Chattahoochee! Yeah!

They were for over a century until Big Pharma bribed greedy Congress to close State Mental Institutions and said their pills will do the trick. Back when America was great.

Actually, that goes back to Ronald Reagan. Mental Health Systems Act of 1980 - Wikipedia

Carter signed the law, and gave a big boost to Mental Health treatment, Reagan cut the funding. Slashed it to nothing, flooding the streets with mental health patients. I think Reagan did a lot of things right, but that wasn’t one of them.[/QUOTE]

That's the truth.

 

[Likkmee]

If you don’t think he should face repercussions for negligence in performing his job, you are Very misguided and likely a partisan hack who is only worried about gun control laws.

What if the manager of a nuclear power plant decided to not do their job and a million people died in a meltdown? Are you telling me you would not support the prosecution of that individual?

Ridiculous

Maybe he had correctly figured that the kids had no future anyway(after looking in the mirror) and said fuggit ?

Oh. Which nuke plant ?

 

[Rustic]

I suspect a good lawyer will be able to get him off most if not all of those charges,

Probably, but this isn't about punishing him, it's about distracting from the fact that a Nikolas Cruz can buy an assault rifle to start with.

The NRA paid Scott and DeSantis good money to do their bidding.

He was a total coward and his actions/inaction led to the deaths of many students.

Again, one guy covering a multi-building campus wasn't going to stop a rampage that was over in six minutes.

I tend to agree.

I don't know what the guy was thinking I can only guess what many cops would be thinking in a situation like this

Cops are held accountable when they take proper action such as Ferguson. Darren Wilson lost his job and was charged when he used appropriate force to stop micheal brown.

Brown was unarmed, with his hands up and 149 feet away from Wilson. His use of force wasn't appropriate..

On the other hand now cops are being held accountable for not taking action

Still I think this guy is responsible for not taking action and yes he could have and should have taken action.

In the end though I have a hard time thinking he is criminally responsible

It seems like a failure he should be fired for but not necessarily convicted in criminal court.

A few points here.

First, no one gets assigned as a school resource officer because he's a super-cop. He gets sent there because breaking up a school-yard fight is about the level of his proficiency.

The problem we have is that School yard fights involve guns these days because the NRA makes it so easy to get them.

This rampage was over in six minutes, where he had to call for backup, direct an evacuation of hundreds of kids, and then try to figure out where the shooter was. By that time, Cruz had already walked out with the rest of the kids, and was sitting across the street admiring his handiwork.

Lol
Ar15s and the like are just sporting rifles... nothing more nothing less...

 

[Rustic]

If you don’t think he should face repercussions for negligence in performing his job, you are Very misguided and likely a partisan hack who is only worried about gun control laws.

What if the manager of a nuclear power plant decided to not do their job and a million people died in a meltdown? Are you telling me you would not support the prosecution of that individual?

Ridiculous

THis wasn't a case of him not deciding to do his job, it was a case of him making bad decisions. Maybe. Or maybe the decisions he made were just fine, there's just not much you can do with a peashooter when the other guy has a machine gun and the element of surprise.

Lol
Fuck face, in close quarters like school rooms for someone who has been trained. Hand guns have an huge advantage over rifles. Someone that has been trained properly on handguns will always get “the drop” on someone with a rifle... every time.

You just don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about so shut the fuck up....

 

[Rustic]

What do you think the likelyhood is that this was done, even if the charges don't stick, or more particularly especially if the charges don't stick, so that "they" could disarm Petersen? He's now had his 2nd amendment rights curtailed until this case is settled, as if he's a danger to the community.

THis was done for a particular reason.... to distract from the fact that Cruz was able to buy that kind of firepower. Peterson is a scapegoat.

This could actually backfire on the National Rampage Association. If cops know they can be charged for not stopping Rampages by NRA Premium Members like Cruz, they might start insisting on common sense gun control.

Lol
...It’s best if you stay in your mothers basement you fucking coward

 

[Rustic]

All of which is total horseshit

The NRA cannot bring charges against people and Cruz was not a member

These charges may be political but they have nothing to do with civil rights protection organizations such as the NRA. There is no common sense gun control and no proposed legislation would have prevented this.

Oh, bullshit. Are you real this childlike in your view of the world.

17 kids died because the NRA has made it easy to get guns. The kids got out and said, "What the Fuck, man!" And the NRA realized that attacking the kids was a losing battle for them, so what do they do?

They go to one of the politicians they own and say, "Hey, could you charge that police officer, and make it all look like it was his fault?"

Like he was going to take his pea-shooter and take on a crazy kid with a machine gun.

After they failed to get Darren Wilson because the evidence proved he shot brown in self defense they went looking for more victims

No, they failed to get Wilson because the DA wasn't even trying. The good news.. the people voted his ass out of office, along with these other DA's and SA's who think that this is 'no big deal' when thug cops shoot kids in the back.

Lol
Your political correctness has made you fucking delusional… It would do you good to get out of your mothers basement every now and again

 

[Rustic]

That fucking pussy is useless. However..Scott Israel following Obama policies is what enabled the whole damn thing to happen.


Like my aunt said: "That boy would have been in Chattahoochee". And that's real AF.

Okay, guy, the problem here was not that the school didn't stamp his meal card "no dessert".

The problem here was that he was able to buy a military-grade weapon.

Lol
Do you even know what a so-called military grade weapons even is you fucking retard?

...Obviously not

 

[Rustic]

No, you stupid fuck, the problem is he wasn't in Chattahoochee where he should have been and would have been in the past, you fucking commie stupid shit.

Assuming Chattahoochee is a prison of some sort (really don't care), the fact is, we lock up 2 million people and we have another 7 million on probation or parole. Locking people up isn't the answer, and frankly, nothing he did before the shooting was really worth locking him up over.

The fact that he had all these mental problems and was STILL able to get a machine gun was the problem... happy to have cleared that up for you, you look a little dopey.

Lol
You obviously cannot see the forest through the trees… You really need to educate yourself better

 

[Rustic]

Due to Obama policies, and Chattahoochee is the State Mental Hospital. You may percieve that, but you're a warped douche anyways, so fuck you.

We can't put people in mental institutions without their permission... so there's that.

Guy did nothing wrong before he opened up with a machine gun, that's the point.

Locking that one up would have been the answer, you fucking dumbass! It could and should have been done before that crap happened.

We don't lock people up for what they MIGHT do.

This is still America, although I have to make a daily check to make sure we didn't become Russia West (A Trump Company).

Shit happens... and legal firearm ownership has nothing to do with it… LOL

 

[Rustic]

Tell me you're not stating that Cruz was/is an NRA member? And gun control legislation generally does not apply to law enforcement so you're 2 untruths in thus far.

The NRA owns our government, and that's the problem. If we left it up to the people, Premium Members like Cruz wouldn't be able to buy weapons.

So tell me exactly the reason in your opinion why Cruz should not have been allowed to legally acquire a weapon.

1) He was crazy.
2) He wasn't a police officer or a soldier (a member of a well-regulated militia).

Those are the two reasons he shouldn't have had a weapon.

Also if any of those reasons have to do with behavior, threats, etc that were known to law enforcement, why are they (FBI, local law enforcement) not being held criminally liable for not heeding the warnings they were aware of and doing something about the situation before it escalated to that point?

Why should they be?

We work on the assumption that every American has the GOD GIVEN RIGHT to own as many guns as they want, because 200 years ago, a bunch of barely literate slave rapists couldn't write a militia amendment clearly.

So they would have had to have arrested him for what, facebook posts?

Lol
Is your position on the subject has no standing in reality… Why don’t you just go live in a socialist Europe you fucking moron?

 

[Rustic]

Yeah, what's up with that? The FBI knew all about him, and did diddly.
Neveryoumind he fell through the cracks of the state mental health system. That should have worked..really.

He didn't fall through the cracks. Are you conceding he has a "not guilty by reason of mental defect" defense?

We can't even clear our streets of schizophrenic homeless people or make them take their meds.

No, the problem is not that Nikolas Cruz wasn't dealing with his mommy issues because we've slashed mental health care in this country.

The problem was he was able to walk into a gun store and buy a military grade weapon and a lot of ammo.

Lol
We have no criminal control in this country, and political correctness has disarmed law-enforcement.
You’re barking up the wrong tree

 

[Rustic]

He was guilty of many crimes that went unreported due to Obama policy adopted by sheriff Scott Israel.

You mean of "Being a teenage boy"?

Hey, big hint here. White kids like Cruz were never treated like criminals under the rules that Obama changed. Those rules were imposed on kids of color.

The kid had problems. But he was also white and affluent, so they were swept under the rug.

Lol
Looking at everything through race accomplishes nothing, other than making people fucking retarded... fact

 

[Rustic]

You talk about guns and do not like law enforcement/corrections/judicial fiefdoms.They will run amok if you get rid of weapons. They have destroyed countless people and even convinced citizens to destroy them. When confronted they circle the wagons and then become babies. They deserve to be encased in Gerbers Dry Babyfood dipped into a Lake until engorged and sunk to the bottom of the Lake.

Okay, buddy, you need to get your meds adjusted...

Hey, THIS is the problem, guys like THIS GUY can buy guns.

Lol
Shit happens… It’s a big fucking country

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

We don't lock people up for what they MIGHT do.

"We" do under some of the terrorism statutes