Paying people off to avoid a scandal is perfectly legal

[Skylar]

Totally baseless....says you. Again, your argument is just naked denial. You don't give us a rational basis for refuting their judgment. You simply insist that you know better than the prosecutors, judge and special investigators. And that we should ignore them and instead believe you.

Nope.

Is that it, Brit? Just you ignoring all the evidence and pretending to be a legal expert?

Do I know more than them? Maybe not. But I'm not scumbag like they obviously are.

With your evidence that they are scumbags being that they disagree with you. Again, Brit....its circular nonsense.

Back in reality, these are professional prosecutors, professional judges. And they found more than enough evidence to support the charges against Cohen. With Cohen admitting to the crimes.

And despite a legal plea with the defendant admitting to the very crime in question, you pretend you still know more and everyone should be ignored.

Nope.

You're asking me to believe that prosecutors and judges never do anything that isn't strictly according to the book.

I'm saying that these judges and prosecutors know more about the law than you do. And by any rational measure, comparing their decades of legal knowledge with your personal opinion has the same winner every time:

Not you.

Especially when you don't have any rational basis for your opinion. You just dismiss all charges as baseless....because. You're even insisting that a guilty plea shouldn't be taken as evidence of actual guilt.

Your only standard of credibility is agreement with you. And you don't know what you're talking about.

We know the charge that paying off Stormy was a campaign contribution is baseless. Plenty of distinguished lawyers plus the chairman of the FEC have said so.

And by 'we know', you mean 'you imagine'.

Again, you're offering your personal opinion, backed by nothing, as the basis of your personal opinion. And dousing it all in flaming conspiracy batshit where any judge who was ever appointed by a democratic president will ignore the law and convict people of crimes they didn't commit.

All because you 'said' so.

Nope. You've got nothing but you citing you. And your source sucks.

Meanwhile, professional judges with decades of experience and professional prosecutors found more than ample evidence to justify the charges. With Cohen *admitting* to the crimes in open court. Any of which is better than your conspiracy adled personal opinion backed by nothing.

 

[Reasonable]

Sound familiar?

 

[OKTexas]

I'm not sure why, but it seems the Democrats think that paying off a woman to be quiet about a scandal is somehow illegal. Well, it isn't.

Meanwhile, I'm wondering what any of this has to do with collusion with Russia...

It’s not ok when it’s a violation of election law

If Hillary did this you’d be in melt down

Now be quiet. You sound stupid

Trump & Co. is throwing everything they can get their hands on against the wall hoping that something will stick. Trump has a massive problem, but the Congress will give him enough shade to survive. After the mid-terms, without the Congress, he will at least be hamstrung and reduced to executive orders. In 2020, he is dead. BTW, he and his supporters are mirror images of each other. Sleaze is as sleaze does!!! Bigly.

Trump's response to Michael Cohen's plea deal, dissected - CNNPolitics

The walls are closing in on Crooked Donnie.
He’s now an indicted co- conspirator in a felony and would be prosecuted if not president.
He very likely will have to sit for a deposition in the Stormy case.
Plus all of his other lawsuits and scandals.
This is without the most corrupt presidency ever.

Where's the indictment? You ignorant regressives crack me up.

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He’s an UNindicted co- conspirator to a felony.
You’re one of the cult that would look the other way if you saw your leader shooting someone.

You need to make up my mind, you said this in the post before "He’s now an indicted co- conspirator in a felony". Now tell the class how anyone could be an un-indicted co-conspirator, when no indictments were sought or issued in the Cohen case?

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[Flopper]

I'm not sure why, but it seems the Democrats think that paying off a woman to be quiet about a scandal is somehow illegal. Well, it isn't.

Meanwhile, I'm wondering what any of this has to do with collusion with Russia...

It’s not ok when it’s a violation of election law

If Hillary did this you’d be in melt down

Now be quiet. You sound stupid

Trump & Co. is throwing everything they can get their hands on against the wall hoping that something will stick. Trump has a massive problem, but the Congress will give him enough shade to survive. After the mid-terms, without the Congress, he will at least be hamstrung and reduced to executive orders. In 2020, he is dead. BTW, he and his supporters are mirror images of each other. Sleaze is as sleaze does!!! Bigly.

Trump's response to Michael Cohen's plea deal, dissected - CNNPolitics

The walls are closing in on Crooked Donnie.
He’s now an indicted co- conspirator in a felony and would be prosecuted if not president.
He very likely will have to sit for a deposition in the Stormy case.
Plus all of his other lawsuits and scandals.
This is without the most corrupt presidency ever.

Where's the indictment? You ignorant regressives crack me up.

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There will be no indictment against Trump. Mueller will turn over all evidence and summary of the investigation to congress. It will be congress that decides Trump's future. If Democrats get control of the House they will impeach Trump. If Republicans control the Senate, they will let him off.

 

[Lewdog]

I'm not sure why, but it seems the Democrats think that paying off a woman to be quiet about a scandal is somehow illegal. Well, it isn't.

Meanwhile, I'm wondering what any of this has to do with collusion with Russia...

It’s not ok when it’s a violation of election law

If Hillary did this you’d be in melt down

Now be quiet. You sound stupid

Trump & Co. is throwing everything they can get their hands on against the wall hoping that something will stick. Trump has a massive problem, but the Congress will give him enough shade to survive. After the mid-terms, without the Congress, he will at least be hamstrung and reduced to executive orders. In 2020, he is dead. BTW, he and his supporters are mirror images of each other. Sleaze is as sleaze does!!! Bigly.

Trump's response to Michael Cohen's plea deal, dissected - CNNPolitics

The walls are closing in on Crooked Donnie.
He’s now an indicted co- conspirator in a felony and would be prosecuted if not president.
He very likely will have to sit for a deposition in the Stormy case.
Plus all of his other lawsuits and scandals.
This is without the most corrupt presidency ever.

Where's the indictment? You ignorant regressives crack me up.

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There will be no indictment against Trump. Mueller will turn over all evidence and summary of the investigation to congress. It will be congress that decides Trump's future. If Democrats get control of the House they will impeach Trump. If Republicans control the Senate, they will let him off.

They will let him off, and as soon as Trump leaves office he will be indicted by the state of New York.

 

[Flopper]

Ha Ha Ha....you simpleton don't even know what conspiracy is! Your ignorance is on full display. Stop please....You are embarrassing embarassing yourself....

So you got nothing but blather and bullshit. Good job ignorant regressive.

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You know they don't need to charge Cohen with the conspiracy charge... because he plead guilty to the crime they conspired on. They charge the co-conspirators with conspiracy because they didn't commit the actual crime that they conspired on.

So you think a member of the bar telling the judge the devil made me do it, automatically implicates the devil in the charges. Grow the fuck up man.

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No... because they had done an investigation and corroborated his statements. Quit being a moron.

Really, did the investigation show the member of the bar telling his client that they couldn't do it that way because it was against the law? After all Cohen would have ethically and duty bound as a fiduciary to do exactly that.

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Cohen's testimony was he made the payments with direction and coordination of the candidate (Trump). He admitted that what he did was illegal. Whether he told Trump that the payments would be illegal, we don't know. However, since he was Trump's lawyer and he knew it was illegal, it seems he would have told his client. We don't have access to the interview with Cohen, only his testimony.

 

[Lewdog]

So you got nothing but blather and bullshit. Good job ignorant regressive.

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You know they don't need to charge Cohen with the conspiracy charge... because he plead guilty to the crime they conspired on. They charge the co-conspirators with conspiracy because they didn't commit the actual crime that they conspired on.

So you think a member of the bar telling the judge the devil made me do it, automatically implicates the devil in the charges. Grow the fuck up man.

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No... because they had done an investigation and corroborated his statements. Quit being a moron.

Really, did the investigation show the member of the bar telling his client that they couldn't do it that way because it was against the law? After all Cohen would have ethically and duty bound as a fiduciary to do exactly that.

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Cohen's testimony was he made the payments with direction and coordination of the candidate (Trump). He admitted that what he did was illegal. Whether he told Trump that the payments would be illegal, we don't know. However, since he was Trump's lawyer and he knew it was illegal, it seems he would have told his client. We don't have access to the interview with Cohen, only his testimony.

Even on the tape, Trump was trying to tell Cohen do it in cash... so for Trump to say he didn't know about the payments until after the fact is asinine. For his supporters to continue to believe it is even worse.

 

[OKTexas]

So you got nothing but blather and bullshit. Good job ignorant regressive.

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You know they don't need to charge Cohen with the conspiracy charge... because he plead guilty to the crime they conspired on. They charge the co-conspirators with conspiracy because they didn't commit the actual crime that they conspired on.

So you think a member of the bar telling the judge the devil made me do it, automatically implicates the devil in the charges. Grow the fuck up man.

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No... because they had done an investigation and corroborated his statements. Quit being a moron.

Really, did the investigation show the member of the bar telling his client that they couldn't do it that way because it was against the law? After all Cohen would have ethically and duty bound as a fiduciary to do exactly that.

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You have no clue what went on... and the judge accepted his plea bargain. He hasn't even officially flipped and made a deal to get a lighter sentence.

You're right, he hasn't agreed to flip, they have agreed on a 3-5 year sentence. You might want to get caught up.

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[OKTexas]

So you got nothing but blather and bullshit. Good job ignorant regressive.

.

You know they don't need to charge Cohen with the conspiracy charge... because he plead guilty to the crime they conspired on. They charge the co-conspirators with conspiracy because they didn't commit the actual crime that they conspired on.

So you think a member of the bar telling the judge the devil made me do it, automatically implicates the devil in the charges. Grow the fuck up man.

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No... because they had done an investigation and corroborated his statements. Quit being a moron.

Really, did the investigation show the member of the bar telling his client that they couldn't do it that way because it was against the law? After all Cohen would have ethically and duty bound as a fiduciary to do exactly that.

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Cohen's testimony was he made the payments with direction and coordination of the candidate (Trump). He admitted that what he did was illegal. Whether he told Trump that the payments would be illegal, we don't know. However, since he was Trump's lawyer and he knew it was illegal, it seems he would have told his client. We don't have access to the interview with Cohen, only his testimony.

If Cohen felt it was illegal he had an obligation as a member of the bar not to do it, there's no excuse for a lawyer to intentionally place a client in jeopardy.

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[Lewdog]

You know they don't need to charge Cohen with the conspiracy charge... because he plead guilty to the crime they conspired on. They charge the co-conspirators with conspiracy because they didn't commit the actual crime that they conspired on.

So you think a member of the bar telling the judge the devil made me do it, automatically implicates the devil in the charges. Grow the fuck up man.

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No... because they had done an investigation and corroborated his statements. Quit being a moron.

Really, did the investigation show the member of the bar telling his client that they couldn't do it that way because it was against the law? After all Cohen would have ethically and duty bound as a fiduciary to do exactly that.

.

You have no clue what went on... and the judge accepted his plea bargain. He hasn't even officially flipped and made a deal to get a lighter sentence.

You're right, he hasn't agreed to flip, they have agreed on a 3-5 year sentence. You might want to get caught up.

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It's not finished and he hasn't been sentenced. He also has pending future charges.

 

[OKTexas]

So you think a member of the bar telling the judge the devil made me do it, automatically implicates the devil in the charges. Grow the fuck up man.

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No... because they had done an investigation and corroborated his statements. Quit being a moron.

Really, did the investigation show the member of the bar telling his client that they couldn't do it that way because it was against the law? After all Cohen would have ethically and duty bound as a fiduciary to do exactly that.

.

You have no clue what went on... and the judge accepted his plea bargain. He hasn't even officially flipped and made a deal to get a lighter sentence.

You're right, he hasn't agreed to flip, they have agreed on a 3-5 year sentence. You might want to get caught up.

.

It's not finished and he hasn't been sentenced. He also has pending future charges.

Sentencing is scheduled for Dec., what other federal charges are pending?

.

 

[Lewdog]

No... because they had done an investigation and corroborated his statements. Quit being a moron.

Really, did the investigation show the member of the bar telling his client that they couldn't do it that way because it was against the law? After all Cohen would have ethically and duty bound as a fiduciary to do exactly that.

.

You have no clue what went on... and the judge accepted his plea bargain. He hasn't even officially flipped and made a deal to get a lighter sentence.

You're right, he hasn't agreed to flip, they have agreed on a 3-5 year sentence. You might want to get caught up.

.

It's not finished and he hasn't been sentenced. He also has pending future charges.

Sentencing is scheduled for Dec., what other federal charges are pending?

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He is being investigated for other crimes in NY dealing with the Trump Organization.

 

[OKTexas]

Really, did the investigation show the member of the bar telling his client that they couldn't do it that way because it was against the law? After all Cohen would have ethically and duty bound as a fiduciary to do exactly that.

.

You have no clue what went on... and the judge accepted his plea bargain. He hasn't even officially flipped and made a deal to get a lighter sentence.

You're right, he hasn't agreed to flip, they have agreed on a 3-5 year sentence. You might want to get caught up.

.

It's not finished and he hasn't been sentenced. He also has pending future charges.

Sentencing is scheduled for Dec., what other federal charges are pending?

.

He is being investigated for other crimes in NY dealing with the Trump Organization.

So you're talking about possible State crimes. They would be irrelevant to the feds.

.

 

[Lewdog]

You have no clue what went on... and the judge accepted his plea bargain. He hasn't even officially flipped and made a deal to get a lighter sentence.

You're right, he hasn't agreed to flip, they have agreed on a 3-5 year sentence. You might want to get caught up.

.

It's not finished and he hasn't been sentenced. He also has pending future charges.

Sentencing is scheduled for Dec., what other federal charges are pending?

.

He is being investigated for other crimes in NY dealing with the Trump Organization.

So you're talking about possible State crimes. They would be irrelevant to the feds.

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No it isn't... they share information when doing investigations. The feds working on this also are smart enough to know that Trump can't pardon someone on state crimes, so those are the ones you can use to squeeze someone for information.

 

[OKTexas]

You're right, he hasn't agreed to flip, they have agreed on a 3-5 year sentence. You might want to get caught up.

.

It's not finished and he hasn't been sentenced. He also has pending future charges.

Sentencing is scheduled for Dec., what other federal charges are pending?

.

He is being investigated for other crimes in NY dealing with the Trump Organization.

So you're talking about possible State crimes. They would be irrelevant to the feds.

.

No it isn't... they share information when doing investigations. The feds working on this also are smart enough to know that Trump can't pardon someone on state crimes, so those are the ones you can use to squeeze someone for information.

LMAO, the feds have made their deal, nothing the State does will effect that. Once sentenced Cohen can tell the feds to pound sand.

I got a question, how much money can the federal government donate to a campaign?

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[Skylar]

It's not finished and he hasn't been sentenced. He also has pending future charges.

Sentencing is scheduled for Dec., what other federal charges are pending?

.

He is being investigated for other crimes in NY dealing with the Trump Organization.

So you're talking about possible State crimes. They would be irrelevant to the feds.

.

No it isn't... they share information when doing investigations. The feds working on this also are smart enough to know that Trump can't pardon someone on state crimes, so those are the ones you can use to squeeze someone for information.

LMAO, the feds have made their deal, nothing the State does will effect that. Once sentenced Cohen can tell the feds to pound sand.

I got a question, how much money can the federal government donate to a campaign?

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Cohen wasn't required by the plea deal to implicate Trump in his admissions before the bench in federal court.

Cohen *chose* to. He chose to implicate Trump before any of the paper trail demonstrating Trump's involvement had even been presented to the courts.

Making the likelihood that Cohen will tell the feds to go 'pound sand' unlikely. But don't stop believing!

 

[Lewdog]

It's not finished and he hasn't been sentenced. He also has pending future charges.

Sentencing is scheduled for Dec., what other federal charges are pending?

.

He is being investigated for other crimes in NY dealing with the Trump Organization.

So you're talking about possible State crimes. They would be irrelevant to the feds.

.

No it isn't... they share information when doing investigations. The feds working on this also are smart enough to know that Trump can't pardon someone on state crimes, so those are the ones you can use to squeeze someone for information.

LMAO, the feds have made their deal, nothing the State does will effect that. Once sentenced Cohen can tell the feds to pound sand.

I got a question, how much money can the federal government donate to a campaign?

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Deflection. The feds can give a sentencing recommendation to a state judge...

 

[OKTexas]

Sentencing is scheduled for Dec., what other federal charges are pending?

.

He is being investigated for other crimes in NY dealing with the Trump Organization.

So you're talking about possible State crimes. They would be irrelevant to the feds.

.

No it isn't... they share information when doing investigations. The feds working on this also are smart enough to know that Trump can't pardon someone on state crimes, so those are the ones you can use to squeeze someone for information.

LMAO, the feds have made their deal, nothing the State does will effect that. Once sentenced Cohen can tell the feds to pound sand.

I got a question, how much money can the federal government donate to a campaign?

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Deflection. The feds can give a sentencing recommendation to a state judge...

The sentencing recommendation was part of the agreement. Why did you avoid my question?

 

[Lewdog]

He is being investigated for other crimes in NY dealing with the Trump Organization.

So you're talking about possible State crimes. They would be irrelevant to the feds.

.

No it isn't... they share information when doing investigations. The feds working on this also are smart enough to know that Trump can't pardon someone on state crimes, so those are the ones you can use to squeeze someone for information.

LMAO, the feds have made their deal, nothing the State does will effect that. Once sentenced Cohen can tell the feds to pound sand.

I got a question, how much money can the federal government donate to a campaign?

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Deflection. The feds can give a sentencing recommendation to a state judge...

The sentencing recommendation was part of the agreement. Why did you avoid my question?

Because your question has nothing to do with this discussion and you are just going to try and state some conspiracy theory.

 

[eagle1462010]

It's been entertaining watching these Leftists lose their MINDS finally and entirely over what is not even a campaign finance violation.

Trump makes them lose their minds.

Entertaining. To say the least.

And you guys were saying back in 1974, "It doesn't matter whether Nixon knew about Watergate." Trump's impeachment charges are going to include violation of campaign finance laws, obstruction of justice, and abuse of power and whatever else Mueller uncovers. Trump's only chance is to fire Mueller before he uncovers more crimes.

Fishing expedition..............Unfettered.............look for a crime anywhere.......anytime...........Using all the resources of the FBI and intel agencies....

When the original crime was Russia Collusion......Anyone that can't see the abuse of power here from the start and how dirty the players are that are doing it has had a lobadomy..........Do you still have the scar...............

The dirty players pushing this shit have been proven to have lied under oath...........leaked to the press............lied to the courts..........paid foreign agents to dig dirt ...............but THAT'S OK IF WE DO IT..............yet kick in the doors and find anything they please when the scope was about Russia.....

Stinks to the high heavens..........and now your hero is a Gold Digging Whore.