Paying people off to avoid a scandal is perfectly legal

[OKTexas]

LMAO, the silence was broken 6 years earlier.

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Then why, pray tell, was Stormy Daniels paid 11 days before the election?

See post 1217

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So you acknowledge that Stormy Daniels was paid 11 days before the election.

But it didn't have anything to do with the election, huh?

Never said it didn't have anything to do with the election, I have said it was a dual purpose expense which historically disqualifies it as a campaign expense. Judge Michael Mukasey verified that in an interview this afternoon.

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Great, then post the law which allows that....

Oh, wait …. you can't.

Feel free to look up the interview, the Judge explains it better than I.

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[candycorn]

Is he? You think the media wouldn't be all over that replaying such a clip again and again and again and again?

They are...

I am sure missing that and I am a media junkie.

Obviously you have a different definition of a media junkie than others do. I've seen it at least 100 times on the news since Cohen released the tape.

Than by all means post a clip of it. If you have seen it 100 times there must be a youtube or other clip of it out there.

How much you want to bet she says the voices are dubbed, or the tape is phony or she doesn’t trust it because of CNN or something brazenly stupid like that?

 

[Uncensored2008]

Raving lunatic, no one is contending the amount he spent to silence a porn star is illegal.

Fucking lying traitor - no one is claiming that what Trump did is illegal - save for you commie fucktards.

Try arguing against reality, not what your mind-altering drugs lead you to believe is real.

You're a fucking idiot. You think you can lie the reality you want into existence.

You've got mental issues, psychopath.

 

[OKTexas]

1. You folks contend that paying for an NDA to avoid embarrassment before an election, is a campaign expense, right?

2. Any entity that gives a candidate more than $2,700 in an election cycle is violating campaign finance laws, right?

3. It's been proven that sitting congress critter have used taxpayer funds to pay for NDAs far in excess of allowable campaign finance laws, WHY AREN'T YOU DEMANDING THEIR PROSECUTION???????????????

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was it during an election cycle?

The house is in a constant election cycle, they raise money all the time. But the cycle is irrelevant, the question is, was the money spent to keep the congresscritter more electable, therefore influencing an election?

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The answer is, yes of course it was to make the congress critter more electable.... and a damn shame that it came out of our tax dollars.

So how is it not an illegal unreported campaign contribution? Why aren't these people being prosecuted and going to jail for campaign finance violations? I mean if this type of violation is serious enough to end a presidency and congresscritter going to jail should be a done deal.

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Who contributed to the campaign? No one. So it is not covered by Campaign finance laws OKTex....

There was no contribution to their campaigns, but money was spent on their behalf to effect an election, according to you and your ilk, that makes it a campaign contribution. Those contributions and their corresponding expenditures were never reported in their FEC filings, isn't that exactly what Trump is being accused of now?

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[Faun]

"A former Vice-President and long-term employee of the Trump Organization is a lying scumbag"

Dummy.

Comrade what was Cohen charged with? I don't mean the inflammatory and slanderous plea contract from Torquemada; what was Cohen charged with?

Michael Cohen Charging Documents

Knock yourself out. Once more won't hurt - I already foresee CTE in your future.

So Comrade, FALSE STATEMENTS are some of the charges?

But, but, but that would mean he is a "lying scumbag?"



You fucking Stalinists are so easy....

I never denied he was a lying scumbag, you pinheaded fuck. I said it was his primary qualification for employment in the Trump Organization - of which he was a Vice-President.

You find things "easy" because you just say stupid shit.

I find things easy because you're dumb as a fucking brick - it's why you're a Communist.

Given that Cohen is a known liar, that means he's a democrat and can't be trusted for anything he spews - kind of like you....

Trump is a proven liar...

April 5th, 2018...

Q: "Did you know about the $130,000 payment to Stormy Daniels?"

Trump: "No."

Q: "Do you know where he [Michael Cohen] got the money to make that payment?"

Trump: "No. I don't know, no."​

May 2nd, 2018, Trump's attorney speaking with Trump's approval...

Giuliani: "Funneled it [the $130,000] through a law firm and then the president repaid it.”​

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[Uncensored2008]

Trump is a proven liar...

April 5th, 2018...

Q: "Did you know about the $130,000 payment to Stormy Daniels?"

Trump: "No."

Q: "Do you know where he [Michael Cohen] got the money to make that payment?"

Trump: "No. I don't know, no."​

May 2nd, 2018, Trump's attorney speaking with Trump's approval...

Giuliani: "Funneled it [the $130,000] through a law firm and then the president repaid it.”​

Then you and Trump have a lot in common.

But I notice you didn't cite your claim, not even back to the leftist hate site that does your thinking for you.

You have the entire Marxist press to slander the President, yet you can't manage a simple link...

 

[OKTexas]

LMAO, the silence was broken 6 years earlier.

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Which makes his choice to do it right before the election even more confusing.

Not really, no one was aware of the In Touch interview, Faun insist that's Trump and Cohen knew about it. Of course he has presented zero proof.

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Dumbfuck, now you're flat out lying. I never insisted trump knew she went public with her story. What I actually said was it is ridiculous to assume he didn't know she went public.

But even if he didn't know she went public, he did know of the affair 10 years earlier and never once tried to silence her -- until just before his election and just after his campaign took a huge hit from the Access Hollywood tape.

You have to be completely fucked in the head to think silencing her had nothing to do with his election.

My bold
Once again you engage in pure double speak.

I never insisted trump knew she went public with her story. What I actually said was it is ridiculous to assume he didn't know she went public.

This is basically what you just said:

I never insisted trump knew, but it is ridiculous to assume he didn't know she went public.

What evidence do you have that makes it ridiculous to assume he didn't know?

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Because she went public with her story. That doesn't mean he did know; but does mean her story was public and he could have known. There is no basis to assume he did or did not know.

And of course, he's known she knows about the affair since 2006. He waited 10 years until just before his election, and while his campaign was still reeling from the Hollywood Access tape, to silence her. He even contemplated buy the story from the National Inquirer about another affair, just so he could maintain control over that story too.

Her story was never published, so no, it wasn't public. But it's nice to see you finally admit there was no reason to assume he knew about it.

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[Lewdog]

Which makes his choice to do it right before the election even more confusing.

Not really, no one was aware of the In Touch interview, Faun insist that's Trump and Cohen knew about it. Of course he has presented zero proof.

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Dumbfuck, now you're flat out lying. I never insisted trump knew she went public with her story. What I actually said was it is ridiculous to assume he didn't know she went public.

But even if he didn't know she went public, he did know of the affair 10 years earlier and never once tried to silence her -- until just before his election and just after his campaign took a huge hit from the Access Hollywood tape.

You have to be completely fucked in the head to think silencing her had nothing to do with his election.

My bold
Once again you engage in pure double speak.

I never insisted trump knew she went public with her story. What I actually said was it is ridiculous to assume he didn't know she went public.

This is basically what you just said:

I never insisted trump knew, but it is ridiculous to assume he didn't know she went public.

What evidence do you have that makes it ridiculous to assume he didn't know?

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Because she went public with her story. That doesn't mean he did know; but does mean her story was public and he could have known. There is no basis to assume he did or did not know.

And of course, he's known she knows about the affair since 2006. He waited 10 years until just before his election, and while his campaign was still reeling from the Hollywood Access tape, to silence her. He even contemplated buy the story from the National Inquirer about another affair, just so he could maintain control over that story too.

Her story was never published, so no, it wasn't public. But it's nice to see you finally admit there was no reason to assume he knew about it.

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You are contradicting yourself.

You just said a minute ago she was shopping it around and that Cohen and Trump found out about it. How do you know? How do you know they didn't know about it BEFORE Trump was running for President?

 

[Uncensored2008]

That's not a "trial," it is a ruling. The court ruled to accept the contract of the plea arrangement in lieu of a trial.

Cohen is as guilty now as he would have if he had a trial. He spoke under oath on a courtroom saying trump ordered him to commit a felony.

Sooner or later trump will have to speak under oath about this crime and many more. Just a matter of time....

Wrong, idiot. Pleading guilty to a non crime doesn't make you guilty of a crime.

Saying it's a non-crime doesn't make it so - particularly when a statute says it is a crime.

Well, not in the real world, but in Trumplandia, I suppose a crime is whatever Trump says it is.

The fact that it's a non crime is what makes it a non crime. A crime isn't whatever Cohen blurts out because of a plea agreement. Meuller was the author of Cohen's plea agreement. That much is clear. All you psycho snowflakes behave as if Mueller is infallible.

Mueller had nothing to do with the plea agreement, it was between Cohen and the Southern District of New York.

If you were to ever make a post and not fucking lie, would you explode or something?

Well, I guess we'll never know.

 

[OKTexas]

You're not making sense, the money was spent in 2016.

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Cohen spent the money in 2016... Trump didn't start paying Cohen back, and hence breaking the campaign financing laws until 2017.

Damn, stop with the circular bullshit already. You claimed Cohen made an illegal excessive campaign contribution in 2016 and now you're saying it wasn't a violation of law until Trump started returning the money to Cohen in 2017. Is that really the story you want to stick with? LMAO

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I never said that... Trump is the one saying HE MADE THE CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTION WHEN HE PAID COHEN BACK. He paid Cohen back starting with a payment in January 2017. They are two different things.

This is exactly what you said:
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" With Trump trying backdate the reason for the payment from 2016, when the illegal campaign contribution was made to 2017."

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No I didn't say that. What post are you getting that from? What's the number. Quote it in a reply.

Just expand the damn string, it's right there dummy. That's what the "click to expand" is for. ROFLMAO

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[Uncensored2008]

A candidate is a politician.

Just as a democrat is a fucking liar.

Trump is not a professional politician. He threatens the corrupt status quo, which is why pseudo republicans join with you Communists in attacking him.


You can't be a candidate and not be a politician, you can't be a democrat and not be a fucking liar, but you may not have had decades of experience in either.

3 years ago Trump was not a republican, you idiot.

3 hours ago you weren't falling down drunk. Things change.

Regardless, Trump is not a professional politician. It's what makes him appeal to normals.

We know the game is rigged. Watching you Communists and the lackey Fredocons spend 18 months with your hair on fire simply confirms what we have known all along. You're in a panic because Trump might expose you for what you are.

 

[Uncensored2008]

They are...

I am sure missing that and I am a media junkie.

Obviously you have a different definition of a media junkie than others do. I've seen it at least 100 times on the news since Cohen released the tape.

Than by all means post a clip of it. If you have seen it 100 times there must be a youtube or other clip of it out there.

How much you want to bet she says the voices are dubbed, or the tape is phony or she doesn’t trust it because of CNN or something brazenly stupid like that?

Oh my, so the Inquisition is leaking shit to the press?

Criminal fucks...

 

[Lewdog]

Cohen spent the money in 2016... Trump didn't start paying Cohen back, and hence breaking the campaign financing laws until 2017.

Damn, stop with the circular bullshit already. You claimed Cohen made an illegal excessive campaign contribution in 2016 and now you're saying it wasn't a violation of law until Trump started returning the money to Cohen in 2017. Is that really the story you want to stick with? LMAO

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I never said that... Trump is the one saying HE MADE THE CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTION WHEN HE PAID COHEN BACK. He paid Cohen back starting with a payment in January 2017. They are two different things.

This is exactly what you said:
my bold
" With Trump trying backdate the reason for the payment from 2016, when the illegal campaign contribution was made to 2017."

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No I didn't say that. What post are you getting that from? What's the number. Quote it in a reply.

Just expand the damn string, it's right there dummy. That's what the "click to expand" is for. ROFLMAO

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Yeah and what you typed ISN'T what I said, which is extremely dishonest since you put quotes around something you assigned to me, which is not true.

Trump paid Cohen back in 2017 with what he says was a campaign contribution HE WAS MAKING TO HIS OWN CAMPAIGN. Why is that so hard for you to understand, and why do you have to lie and say that I said something that I didn't?

 

[Reasonable]

It’s not ok when it’s a violation of election law

If Hillary did this you’d be in melt down

Now be quiet. You sound stupid

Trump & Co. is throwing everything they can get their hands on against the wall hoping that something will stick. Trump has a massive problem, but the Congress will give him enough shade to survive. After the mid-terms, without the Congress, he will at least be hamstrung and reduced to executive orders. In 2020, he is dead. BTW, he and his supporters are mirror images of each other. Sleaze is as sleaze does!!! Bigly.

Trump's response to Michael Cohen's plea deal, dissected - CNNPolitics

The walls are closing in on Crooked Donnie.
He’s now an indicted co- conspirator in a felony and would be prosecuted if not president.
He very likely will have to sit for a deposition in the Stormy case.
Plus all of his other lawsuits and scandals.
This is without the most corrupt presidency ever.

Where's the indictment? You ignorant regressives crack me up.

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He’s an UNindicted co- conspirator to a felony.
You’re one of the cult that would look the other way if you saw your leader shooting someone.

You need to make up my mind, you said this in the post before "He’s now an indicted co- conspirator in a felony". Now tell the class how anyone could be an un-indicted co-conspirator, when no indictments were sought or issued in the Cohen case?

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I obviously forgot the UN the first time and you try to make a big deal about it.
Petty bitch aren’t you.

 

[Reasonable]

I am sure missing that and I am a media junkie.

Obviously you have a different definition of a media junkie than others do. I've seen it at least 100 times on the news since Cohen released the tape.

Than by all means post a clip of it. If you have seen it 100 times there must be a youtube or other clip of it out there.

How much you want to bet she says the voices are dubbed, or the tape is phony or she doesn’t trust it because of CNN or something brazenly stupid like that?

Oh my, so the Inquisition is leaking shit to the press?

Criminal fucks...

Bozo doesn’t know how life works.

 

[candycorn]

Cohen is as guilty now as he would have if he had a trial. He spoke under oath on a courtroom saying trump ordered him to commit a felony.

Sooner or later trump will have to speak under oath about this crime and many more. Just a matter of time....

Wrong, idiot. Pleading guilty to a non crime doesn't make you guilty of a crime.

Saying it's a non-crime doesn't make it so - particularly when a statute says it is a crime.

Well, not in the real world, but in Trumplandia, I suppose a crime is whatever Trump says it is.

The fact that it's a non crime is what makes it a non crime. A crime isn't whatever Cohen blurts out because of a plea agreement. Meuller was the author of Cohen's plea agreement. That much is clear. All you psycho snowflakes behave as if Mueller is infallible.

Mueller had nothing to do with the plea agreement, it was between Cohen and the Southern District of New York.

If you were to ever make a post and not fucking lie, would you explode or something?

Well, I guess we'll never know.

Are you talking to yourself? You seem really desperate and upset. I think having to constantly play defense on Trump’s lies, sleaze, and everything else is starting to wither away. You’ve lost your integrity a long time ago…but now you can, in no way, believe the shit you’re stating…so your anger and butthurt are more evident than ever.

 

[OKTexas]

Not really, no one was aware of the In Touch interview, Faun insist that's Trump and Cohen knew about it. Of course he has presented zero proof.

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Dumbfuck, now you're flat out lying. I never insisted trump knew she went public with her story. What I actually said was it is ridiculous to assume he didn't know she went public.

But even if he didn't know she went public, he did know of the affair 10 years earlier and never once tried to silence her -- until just before his election and just after his campaign took a huge hit from the Access Hollywood tape.

You have to be completely fucked in the head to think silencing her had nothing to do with his election.

My bold
Once again you engage in pure double speak.

I never insisted trump knew she went public with her story. What I actually said was it is ridiculous to assume he didn't know she went public.

This is basically what you just said:

I never insisted trump knew, but it is ridiculous to assume he didn't know she went public.

What evidence do you have that makes it ridiculous to assume he didn't know?

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Because she went public with her story. That doesn't mean he did know; but does mean her story was public and he could have known. There is no basis to assume he did or did not know.

And of course, he's known she knows about the affair since 2006. He waited 10 years until just before his election, and while his campaign was still reeling from the Hollywood Access tape, to silence her. He even contemplated buy the story from the National Inquirer about another affair, just so he could maintain control over that story too.

Her story was never published, so no, it wasn't public. But it's nice to see you finally admit there was no reason to assume he knew about it.

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You are contradicting yourself.

You just said a minute ago she was shopping it around and that Cohen and Trump found out about it. How do you know? How do you know they didn't know about it BEFORE Trump was running for President?

AMI's Pecker told Cohen she was shopping her story, that's when Cohen started working on the NDA. The reporting is out there.

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[Reasonable]

Crooked Donnie was implicated in a felony and the cult is besides themselves pretending it isn’t so.
This is just the tip of the iceberg.
This is not going to end well for this criminal president.

 

[candycorn]

Not really, no one was aware of the In Touch interview, Faun insist that's Trump and Cohen knew about it. Of course he has presented zero proof.

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Dumbfuck, now you're flat out lying. I never insisted trump knew she went public with her story. What I actually said was it is ridiculous to assume he didn't know she went public.

But even if he didn't know she went public, he did know of the affair 10 years earlier and never once tried to silence her -- until just before his election and just after his campaign took a huge hit from the Access Hollywood tape.

You have to be completely fucked in the head to think silencing her had nothing to do with his election.

My bold
Once again you engage in pure double speak.

I never insisted trump knew she went public with her story. What I actually said was it is ridiculous to assume he didn't know she went public.

This is basically what you just said:

I never insisted trump knew, but it is ridiculous to assume he didn't know she went public.

What evidence do you have that makes it ridiculous to assume he didn't know?

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Because she went public with her story. That doesn't mean he did know; but does mean her story was public and he could have known. There is no basis to assume he did or did not know.

And of course, he's known she knows about the affair since 2006. He waited 10 years until just before his election, and while his campaign was still reeling from the Hollywood Access tape, to silence her. He even contemplated buy the story from the National Inquirer about another affair, just so he could maintain control over that story too.

Her story was never published, so no, it wasn't public. But it's nice to see you finally admit there was no reason to assume he knew about it.

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You are contradicting yourself.

You just said a minute ago she was shopping it around and that Cohen and Trump found out about it. How do you know? How do you know they didn't know about it BEFORE Trump was running for President?

The profound idiocy of the “she was shopping it” angle is this. If she had slept with Marco Rubio who was a Senator or Chuck Schumer who was a Senator or someone in federal government; that may make sense. People do devious things. However, Trump was not a politician much less thought to be a serious candidate for anything until he decided to run. Shopping around that a whore slept with a playboy (aka the blob) who has long been suspected of having affairs is kinda like the Pope shopping around that the Church has an issue with predator priests. Duh!

 

[Faun]

Is this where you start calling a campaign contribution an 'expense' again?

You know you can actually read an article or two on the topic and get answers to these questions in a few minutes, right?

I don't want some reporters opinion, I'm asking people here. You can deflect all you want, that just demonstrates your discomfort with the prospect of admitting that payoffs for silence, aren't really campaign expenses.

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He had ten years to pay her off. That he waited until just before an election and just after the Access Hollywood tape came out; shows it was to influence the election.

Or it shows she wasn't out shopping her story till just before the election. Cohen found out about her through a third party, she set the timing, not Cohen or Trump.

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Well that's certainly not true as she was "shopping" her story out in 2011.

To an outlet that chose not to publish it, only the reporter and a few staff even knew it existed.

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Dumbfuck, you have no idea what you're talking about. Her story of an affair with Trump appeared on the Internet in 2011. Its exposure was not limited to "only the reporter and a few staff even knew it existed."

And again, that doesn't prove either way if trump knew she was going public with her story or if he didn't know. But there are no grounds to assume either.

And again, Trump knew she knew about the affair for 10 years. He waited until just before the election, and right after the Access Hollywood taped reeled his campaign to, silence her. It's ludicrous to claim that wasn't for the purpose of influencing the election. But it seems that ludicrous is all you're armed with.

If his intentions to silence her were for personal reasons, he would have done so 10 years earlier when he had the affair with her.