Perfect Questions For Trumpers

[colfax_m]

Yeah, I always hear about how Russians routinely meddle in our election. When was the last time Russia did anything similar to this?

Misfud didn’t give Papadopolous erroneous information. He told the coffee boy about stolen emails. Well, guess what. Russia had stolen emails.

So yeah, the FBI went looking for who knew what. Which is exactly what you’d expect them to know. George would have been fine, a footnote in this whole affair if he had just been able to tell the truth to investigators. It’s really not that hard for most people. But he didn’t, did he. He decided to lie and he lied because he just felt like everyone was supposed to lie about this. That’s what Trump was expecting.

Your version of reality is entertaining but far from complete or fully accurate.
Mifsud did pump Papadopolous full of much more than stories of stolen email.
I'm not surprised the Russians had Clinton email considering her home made server was about
as secure as grandma's dentures.
That, in and of itself, means nothing.

On the other hand: "In securing Papadopoulos’ October 2017 plea, the special counsel advanced the narrative that the Republican candidate’s campaign had colluded with Russia to win the presidency. By then, both the FBI and special counsel knew the case for collusion was dead. Nearly half a year before the special counsel was even appointed, investigators were already aware that their central source of evidence tying Trump associates to Russia — a dossier compiled by former British spy Christopher Steele — was rife with vaguely attributed, uncorroborated, and disavowed allegations." Declassified FBI memos undercut Mueller team claims that Papadopoulos hindered Russia probe

What's interesting is a full half year before Captain America Mueller was ever given his own
inquisition to look for Russians under Trump's bed investigators already concluded that the
Steele dossier was largely unverified bunk! And the "central source" behind the Russian hoax
had imploded and was about as useful as a Playboy subscription for Elton John.

So why did the hunt for Red November (do you like that clever turn of a phrase?) continue to this very day
in one form or another? Well it must be because people like you will believe anything the left trolls you with
all they have to do is wind you fools up and then stand back and watch you go.

The Steele dossier was unrelated to anything involving Papadopolous. If I recall correctly, he wasn’t even mentioned. The dossier was really only a factor in one person, Page, who gets no attention in the final reports because it was not significant. On the other hand, numerous other connections of various suspicion were investigated up to and including Trump Jr taking meetings looking for official Russian investigations into Clinton.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

The Steele dossier was unrelated to anything involving Papadopolous. If I recall correctly, he wasn’t even mentioned. The dossier was really only a factor in one person, Page, who gets no attention in the final reports because it was not significant. On the other hand, numerous other connections of various suspicion were investigated up to and including Trump Jr taking meetings looking for official Russian investigations into Clinton.

No claim was made linking Papadopolous with the Steele dossier, so that's a moot point.
I suspect if the dossier had anything of merit and note that could be verified Captain America Mueller
would have made something of it.

Nobilitas...humilitate...rigidum

 

[Mac-7]

Serious question for Trumpers: why would Obama ‘SPY’ on Trump campaign but not do anything with the info?” he asks rhetorically. “Put another way, why would Obama WH go to extreme lengths to break the law but not help Hillary win? That’s the dumbest conspiracy of all time.”

They were over confident

No one in lib la la land gave trump a chance of winning

Raises a really good question why would the Obama administration break laws to spy on someone for political purposes if no one thought he had a chance at winning.

Besides, Hillary was going to bury the wrongdoing.

Why break the law for no reason? Your attempt at ascribing a motive makes zero sense.

Why break the law for no reason?

They broke the law to get dirt on their opponent.
It would have been buried if she won. No risk.

She was the most qualified candidate ever.....how could she lose?

This theory defies all logic.
One, the dirt was never used. The application wasn’t even approved until two weeks before the election. Carter Page was only tangentially involved in the campaign and had left well before the warrant was issued.

One, the dirt was never used.

Probably because they didn't find anything that would help.

Trump’s campaign was literally meeting with Russians trying to give them dirt on Clinton to help his campaign.

You think that wasn’t potentially harmful information?

Hardly

it was the other way around

the dems were the ones conspiring with russia

What were the Dems conspiring with Russia to do exactly? Hack their server again?

You can sneer all you want

hillary paid for the Steele dossier which was largely if not entirely supplied by the russians

That’s your conspiracy? Hillary paid a law firm who paid a research firm who paid a former intelligence agent to ask his network of Russian expatriates if Russia has any information on Trump. None of which was used.

Meanwhile Trump’s flesh and blood was in a room asking Russians for official prosecutor documents.

So yeah, I’ll sneer at the absurdity.

That was just the opening moves of the anti trump conspiracy

eventually it involved the FBI CIA, the dc police and bigh ranking members of the previous administration including obama

Conspiratorial nonsense.

We both know Russia was working to elect Trump. Drop the charade. Oh wait, you aren’t a Seth Rich truther, are you?

You are stuck on an outdated lie

hillary and the dnc were the criminals not trump

It’s a “lie” that has been confirmed by every serious investigation into the matter. The only people still expressing disbelief are 4chan internet trolls and the gullible.

I guess we will have to wait and see what develops

you may never see or admit the truth

but I think its clear the Deep State tried to stage a coup

It’s always wait and see with you geniuses. The FBI report confirmed it was Russia so you told us to wait for the House investigation. The house investigation told us it was Russia so you told us to wait for the Mueller report. The Mueller report told us it was Russia so you told us to wait for the Senate report. The Senate report told us it was Russia so now we have to wait for something else, who knows, but you can never be proven wrong because there’s always something else to cling to.

nonsense

the cia and lib news media has lied to us and to congress since day one

The CIA hasn’t said anything. They’re the CIA. They’re not too chatty.
The conservative media has been living in a parallel universe by ignoring everything that doesn’t fit Trump’s narrative.

Bullshit

clapper is on TV all the time

and what he cant say is leaked to the lib news media who tell us “unnamed sources said...”

Clapper was DNI.

Face it, every serious investigation came up with the same result. The House. The Senate. The intelligence community. The DoJ. Every single investigation. Same result.

You just don’t want to accept it.

The same lie you mean

 

[colfax_m]

Serious question for Trumpers: why would Obama ‘SPY’ on Trump campaign but not do anything with the info?” he asks rhetorically. “Put another way, why would Obama WH go to extreme lengths to break the law but not help Hillary win? That’s the dumbest conspiracy of all time.”

They were over confident

No one in lib la la land gave trump a chance of winning

Raises a really good question why would the Obama administration break laws to spy on someone for political purposes if no one thought he had a chance at winning.

Besides, Hillary was going to bury the wrongdoing.

Why break the law for no reason? Your attempt at ascribing a motive makes zero sense.

Why break the law for no reason?

They broke the law to get dirt on their opponent.
It would have been buried if she won. No risk.

She was the most qualified candidate ever.....how could she lose?

This theory defies all logic.
One, the dirt was never used. The application wasn’t even approved until two weeks before the election. Carter Page was only tangentially involved in the campaign and had left well before the warrant was issued.

One, the dirt was never used.

Probably because they didn't find anything that would help.

Trump’s campaign was literally meeting with Russians trying to give them dirt on Clinton to help his campaign.

You think that wasn’t potentially harmful information?

Hardly

it was the other way around

the dems were the ones conspiring with russia

What were the Dems conspiring with Russia to do exactly? Hack their server again?

You can sneer all you want

hillary paid for the Steele dossier which was largely if not entirely supplied by the russians

That’s your conspiracy? Hillary paid a law firm who paid a research firm who paid a former intelligence agent to ask his network of Russian expatriates if Russia has any information on Trump. None of which was used.

Meanwhile Trump’s flesh and blood was in a room asking Russians for official prosecutor documents.

So yeah, I’ll sneer at the absurdity.

That was just the opening moves of the anti trump conspiracy

eventually it involved the FBI CIA, the dc police and bigh ranking members of the previous administration including obama

Conspiratorial nonsense.

We both know Russia was working to elect Trump. Drop the charade. Oh wait, you aren’t a Seth Rich truther, are you?

You are stuck on an outdated lie

hillary and the dnc were the criminals not trump

It’s a “lie” that has been confirmed by every serious investigation into the matter. The only people still expressing disbelief are 4chan internet trolls and the gullible.

I guess we will have to wait and see what develops

you may never see or admit the truth

but I think its clear the Deep State tried to stage a coup

It’s always wait and see with you geniuses. The FBI report confirmed it was Russia so you told us to wait for the House investigation. The house investigation told us it was Russia so you told us to wait for the Mueller report. The Mueller report told us it was Russia so you told us to wait for the Senate report. The Senate report told us it was Russia so now we have to wait for something else, who knows, but you can never be proven wrong because there’s always something else to cling to.

nonsense

the cia and lib news media has lied to us and to congress since day one

The CIA hasn’t said anything. They’re the CIA. They’re not too chatty.
The conservative media has been living in a parallel universe by ignoring everything that doesn’t fit Trump’s narrative.

Bullshit

clapper is on TV all the time

and what he cant say is leaked to the lib news media who tell us “unnamed sources said...”

Clapper was DNI.

Face it, every serious investigation came up with the same result. The House. The Senate. The intelligence community. The DoJ. Every single investigation. Same result.

You just don’t want to accept it.

The same lie you mean

Your conspiracy is getting bigger and bigger. Now it encapsulates the Congressional Republicans

 

[Dr Grump]

Killing the General from Iran. Moving our embassy to Israel. Lowering corporate tax cuts. Record stock market. Pretty to easy to write at least one positive story. They wrote ZERO. Fox News has written negative stories about Trump. Yet WP has not written one. You're not being objective if you don't see that WP is biased.

I don't rate any of those things perhaps with the exception of getting rid of the general. I don't think that was a bad idea.
I think the main issue is that he is a disgusting human being. And that is hard to overcome. Even Hitler loved his German Shepherds. And no, I'm not comparing him to Hitler, just pointing out that even the most horrible pieces of shit have a nice side but that doesn't make them any nicer.

That man has not one redeeming quality. Not one.

Again, are we going to discuss feelings or facts? Your conflation is crazy. So because Hitler loved dogs, I should not own a dog? Come on man. This is embarrassing.

Of course feelings matter. I'm gonna vote for somebody who's a dickhead? Don't think so.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Obamagate rants by the President and Rwinger media sound so desperate it makes them look stupid.
How long this will last is your guess.
Remember, the 2020 election will be a referendum on Trump.
Also, he will be running against Joe Biden. Remember?

"Vanity Fair reporter Gabriel Sherman, however, writes on Twitter that Trump’s conspiratorial ramblings about Obama fall apart at the slightest scrutiny."

“Serious question for Trumpers: why would Obama ‘SPY’ on Trump campaign but not do anything with the info?” he asks rhetorically. “Put another way, why would Obama WH go to extreme lengths to break the law but not help Hillary win? That’s the dumbest conspiracy of all time.”

'The dumbest conspiracy of all time': Veteran reporter blows up Trump's crazed 'Obamagate' ramblings

President Donald Trump over the weekend launched a series of attacks on former President Barack Obama in an effort to cast him as the purported mastermind of a conspiracy to ensnare former national security adviser Mike Flynn into a perjury trap.Vanity Fair reporter Gabriel Sherman, however...

www.rawstory.com

Anything to distract from covid. Trump has long been envious of Obama.

Remember when Obama said, "at least I'll go down as a President"?

That was awesome!!!

Not nearly as self-serving as “Because I’m the President of the United States and you’re not”.

Stealing lines from SNL.

Pen and a phone, eh?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Michelle Obama is a well educated, successful black woman

Michelle Obama is a well educated, successful black woman

You're 20%-40% correct.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

There are a number of lies or mistruths in this post.

The FBI was investigating illegal interference and attacks upon Americans by Russian intelligence. That’s not a bogey man. That happened. It was logical to look into any coordination with the Trump campaign given the credible information they obtained demonstrating that Russians were indeed attempting to contact the Trump campaign.

Get off your little hobby horse of Russian interference.
The Russians routinely have meddled in political campaigns, not just in the US but in most of the Western
nations, just to see what they can get away with and how the West reacts.
We spy on them. They spy on us. It's been that way for decades.

People like George Pappadopolous, a very low level Trump transition team member, was contacted by
a shadowy figure, Josef Mifsud (Joseph Mifsud - Wikipedia) and fed erroneous information.

And then when Pappadopolous discussed this meeting with Australian diplomat, Alexander Downer, regurgitating information that Mifsud had fed him, as anyone would, soon the FBI was alerted and they were grilling Pappadopolous as a Russian spy which was nonsense.

But that was a small sample of how intelligence figures were trying to corrupt and implicate Trump administration figures by using the Russian tar baby on them.
And it works on not really bright people who want to believe Trump and Russia are intertwined as one
despite the fact that no evidence to support this wishful conclusion can be made.

Yeah, I always hear about how Russians routinely meddle in our election. When was the last time Russia did anything similar to this?

Misfud didn’t give Papadopolous erroneous information. He told the coffee boy about stolen emails. Well, guess what. Russia had stolen emails.

So yeah, the FBI went looking for who knew what. Which is exactly what you’d expect them to know. George would have been fine, a footnote in this whole affair if he had just been able to tell the truth to investigators. It’s really not that hard for most people. But he didn’t, did he. He decided to lie and he lied because he just felt like everyone was supposed to lie about this. That’s what Trump was expecting.

Misfud didn’t give Papadopolous erroneous information. He told the coffee boy about stolen emails.

I'm just glad that Mueller got Mifsud to testify about what he knew.

Wait.....what?

 

[Crepitus]

The RNC will need to remind the voters Trump is running against the Democrats and the Deep State.

tRump is running against Joe Biden and the American people.

Trump is the sword and shield defending the American people against New World Order Fascism

tRump is the fascist we need to defend against.

Serious question for Trumpers: why would Obama ‘SPY’ on Trump campaign but not do anything with the info?” he asks rhetorically. “Put another way, why would Obama WH go to extreme lengths to break the law but not help Hillary win? That’s the dumbest conspiracy of all time.”

They were over confident

No one in lib la la land gave trump a chance of winning

It was an "insurance policy" in the unlikely event that Hillary would lose

Yet Comey screwed Hilary’ chances. Your claim does not hold together.

I dont believe comey was trying to make hillary lose

he gave the press conference where is laid out all her misdeeds aka crimes with the private server and then exonerated her at the same time

very weird

but he obviously stopped short of a true october supprise

Wrong. Right at the end of October he sent a letter to Congress saying he was reopening the investigation.

You guys have very selective memories.

 

[colfax_m]

There are a number of lies or mistruths in this post.

The FBI was investigating illegal interference and attacks upon Americans by Russian intelligence. That’s not a bogey man. That happened. It was logical to look into any coordination with the Trump campaign given the credible information they obtained demonstrating that Russians were indeed attempting to contact the Trump campaign.

Get off your little hobby horse of Russian interference.
The Russians routinely have meddled in political campaigns, not just in the US but in most of the Western
nations, just to see what they can get away with and how the West reacts.
We spy on them. They spy on us. It's been that way for decades.

People like George Pappadopolous, a very low level Trump transition team member, was contacted by
a shadowy figure, Josef Mifsud (Joseph Mifsud - Wikipedia) and fed erroneous information.

And then when Pappadopolous discussed this meeting with Australian diplomat, Alexander Downer, regurgitating information that Mifsud had fed him, as anyone would, soon the FBI was alerted and they were grilling Pappadopolous as a Russian spy which was nonsense.

But that was a small sample of how intelligence figures were trying to corrupt and implicate Trump administration figures by using the Russian tar baby on them.
And it works on not really bright people who want to believe Trump and Russia are intertwined as one
despite the fact that no evidence to support this wishful conclusion can be made.

Yeah, I always hear about how Russians routinely meddle in our election. When was the last time Russia did anything similar to this?

Misfud didn’t give Papadopolous erroneous information. He told the coffee boy about stolen emails. Well, guess what. Russia had stolen emails.

So yeah, the FBI went looking for who knew what. Which is exactly what you’d expect them to know. George would have been fine, a footnote in this whole affair if he had just been able to tell the truth to investigators. It’s really not that hard for most people. But he didn’t, did he. He decided to lie and he lied because he just felt like everyone was supposed to lie about this. That’s what Trump was expecting.

Misfud didn’t give Papadopolous erroneous information. He told the coffee boy about stolen emails.

I'm just glad that Mueller got Mifsud to testify about what he knew.

Wait.....what?

The FBI might have been able to learn more from Midsud if Papadopolous hadn’t misled them.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Wrong. Right at the end of October he sent a letter to Congress saying he was reopening the investigation.

When her work emails showed up on Weiner's porn laptop, what was he supposed to do?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

There are a number of lies or mistruths in this post.

The FBI was investigating illegal interference and attacks upon Americans by Russian intelligence. That’s not a bogey man. That happened. It was logical to look into any coordination with the Trump campaign given the credible information they obtained demonstrating that Russians were indeed attempting to contact the Trump campaign.

Get off your little hobby horse of Russian interference.
The Russians routinely have meddled in political campaigns, not just in the US but in most of the Western
nations, just to see what they can get away with and how the West reacts.
We spy on them. They spy on us. It's been that way for decades.

People like George Pappadopolous, a very low level Trump transition team member, was contacted by
a shadowy figure, Josef Mifsud (Joseph Mifsud - Wikipedia) and fed erroneous information.

And then when Pappadopolous discussed this meeting with Australian diplomat, Alexander Downer, regurgitating information that Mifsud had fed him, as anyone would, soon the FBI was alerted and they were grilling Pappadopolous as a Russian spy which was nonsense.

But that was a small sample of how intelligence figures were trying to corrupt and implicate Trump administration figures by using the Russian tar baby on them.
And it works on not really bright people who want to believe Trump and Russia are intertwined as one
despite the fact that no evidence to support this wishful conclusion can be made.

Yeah, I always hear about how Russians routinely meddle in our election. When was the last time Russia did anything similar to this?

Misfud didn’t give Papadopolous erroneous information. He told the coffee boy about stolen emails. Well, guess what. Russia had stolen emails.

So yeah, the FBI went looking for who knew what. Which is exactly what you’d expect them to know. George would have been fine, a footnote in this whole affair if he had just been able to tell the truth to investigators. It’s really not that hard for most people. But he didn’t, did he. He decided to lie and he lied because he just felt like everyone was supposed to lie about this. That’s what Trump was expecting.

Misfud didn’t give Papadopolous erroneous information. He told the coffee boy about stolen emails.

I'm just glad that Mueller got Mifsud to testify about what he knew.

Wait.....what?

The FBI might have been able to learn more from Midsud if Papadopolous hadn’t misled them.

What'd Papadopolous do, give them the wrong address for Mifsud?

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

You're 20%-40% correct.

Everyone loves her strong powerful arms, though. I wonder why.

 

[charwin95]

Pelosi went to China Town SF to visit her constituents and ate ice cream. Is there a law somewhere that prohibits a senator or any law makers visiting her/his constituents? Why is that a problem??? Since when that is a problem?

 

[Bleipriester]

Obamagate rants by the President and Rwinger media sound so desperate it makes them look stupid.
How long this will last is your guess.
Remember, the 2020 election will be a referendum on Trump.
Also, he will be running against Joe Biden. Remember?

"Vanity Fair reporter Gabriel Sherman, however, writes on Twitter that Trump’s conspiratorial ramblings about Obama fall apart at the slightest scrutiny."

“Serious question for Trumpers: why would Obama ‘SPY’ on Trump campaign but not do anything with the info?” he asks rhetorically. “Put another way, why would Obama WH go to extreme lengths to break the law but not help Hillary win? That’s the dumbest conspiracy of all time.”

'The dumbest conspiracy of all time': Veteran reporter blows up Trump's crazed 'Obamagate' ramblings

President Donald Trump over the weekend launched a series of attacks on former President Barack Obama in an effort to cast him as the purported mastermind of a conspiracy to ensnare former national security adviser Mike Flynn into a perjury trap.Vanity Fair reporter Gabriel Sherman, however...

www.rawstory.com

Trump doesn´t need facts or proof. He has Trombies.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

The FBI might have been able to learn more from Midsud if Papadopolous hadn’t misled them.

I doubt it. What professor really told FBI about Trump, Russia and Papadopoulos
According to Mifsud there were no sinister anti Hillary plots and he or Papodopolous really had nothing
of interest to offer the FBI boys who were looking for Russians to bust.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Killing the General from Iran. Moving our embassy to Israel. Lowering corporate tax cuts. Record stock market. Pretty to easy to write at least one positive story. They wrote ZERO. Fox News has written negative stories about Trump. Yet WP has not written one. You're not being objective if you don't see that WP is biased.

I don't rate any of those things perhaps with the exception of getting rid of the general. I don't think that was a bad idea.
I think the main issue is that he is a disgusting human being. And that is hard to overcome. Even Hitler loved his German Shepherds. And no, I'm not comparing him to Hitler, just pointing out that even the most horrible pieces of shit have a nice side but that doesn't make them any nicer.

That man has not one redeeming quality. Not one.

Again, are we going to discuss feelings or facts? Your conflation is crazy. So because Hitler loved dogs, I should not own a dog? Come on man. This is embarrassing.

Of course feelings matter. I'm gonna vote for somebody who's a dickhead? Don't think so.

You won’t vote at all. You’re not a US citizen

 

[Crepitus]

Wrong. Right at the end of October he sent a letter to Congress saying he was reopening the investigation.

When her work emails showed up on Weiner's porn laptop, what was he supposed to do?

Lol. Lame excuse making.

If he was supposed to disclose that, where was the letter about the investigation into tRump and his Russian connections.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Wrong. Right at the end of October he sent a letter to Congress saying he was reopening the investigation.

When her work emails showed up on Weiner's porn laptop, what was he supposed to do?

Lol. Lame excuse making.

If he was supposed to disclose that, where was the letter about the investigation into tRump and his Russian connections.

Lol. Lame excuse making.

Yeah, Secretary of State documents on a kiddie porn laptop. Lame indeed.

If he was supposed to disclose that......

Only because he promised Congress he would.

 

[Crepitus]

Wrong. Right at the end of October he sent a letter to Congress saying he was reopening the investigation.

When her work emails showed up on Weiner's porn laptop, what was he supposed to do?

Lol. Lame excuse making.

If he was supposed to disclose that, where was the letter about the investigation into tRump and his Russian connections.

Lol. Lame excuse making.

Yeah, Secretary of State documents on a kiddie porn laptop. Lame indeed.

If he was supposed to disclose that......

Only because he promised Congress he would.

And you don't think they needed to know about tRump's Russian connection?