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To return to the actual topic of this thread:
That would depend, is it a waiter that gets good tips and is popular with the customers, or does he refuse to take showers and generally make the place worse?
In other words, it would depend. Unlike you, I don't base my estimate of a man's character on a single thing, I leave that position to the bigots.
You keep trying to make this about character and morals. It's not - its about doing the job you're being paid for.
If you work in a drugstore as a cashier, your job is to ring up whatever a customer wants to buy. If you refuse to do that, you're refusing to do your job.
Same with a waiter refusing to sell things offered on the menu.
If any employee of mine refused to do the job I was paying them for, I would fire them. Simple as that.
Do you have the right to be a sniper in the Army if your conscience, morality, and faith cause you to refuse to kill anyone?
I'm pretty sure when you join the Army, you're owned by the Army.
....otherwise, a lot of liberal socialist Democrats would have bloody noses.
Let's try this.
Do you have the right to work at a brewery, delivering alcohol, if you're a Muslim whose religion doesn't allow you to transport alcohol?
Let's just say you're a cashier at a pharmacy or grocery store and a customer walks up with a "Plan B One Step" abortion kit.
Then let's say your personal religious beliefs are so opposed to abortion that the idea of selling the product causes you extreme emotional distress.
1) should you have the right to refuse the sale?
2) should the company you work for accommodate your personal beliefs?
3) should the company have the right to fire you (if you refuse the sale) in this situation?
4) Should you forget what you truly believe to your soul and bend to the will of the government.?
5)...
The "morning after" pill can be bought today from the shelves of most pharmacies and grocery stores, available to anyone of any age without restrictions, in a step that profoundly eases access to emergency contraception.
This simple relocation of the once-controversial "Plan B One Step" -- next to condoms, tampons and sanitary napkins, instead of behind pharmacy counters -- represents the final step in a complex decadelong legal battle to make it more easily available to women who want to prevent pregnancy after unprotected sex.
'Morning after' pill goes on sale Thursday in pharmacies and grocery stores, available to anyone - San Jose Mercury News
Like I said, fantasy world.
Once you point out where someone is actually practicing human sacrifice, like Obama was actually arguing in court to keep Plan B available only with prescription, you will have a case for me supporting human sacrifice.
It was hyperbole, meant to highlight your failure of assumption.
It's pretty funny to see you continuing this, after complaining that I was assigning views to you a few posts ago.
Really?
You claim to hate the idea that women cannot buy Plan B because a hypothetical salesclerk might not want to sell it to her, yet you say nothing about the President of the United States working to make it less available.
Then you claim I support human sacrifice because I haven't spoken out against it, even though I have never been faced with the President of the United States, or anyone else, working to keep it around.
You are right about one thing, one of had a failure of assumption.
Let's just say you're a cashier at a pharmacy or grocery store and a customer walks up with a "Plan B One Step" abortion kit.
Then let's say your personal religious beliefs are so opposed to abortion that the idea of selling the product causes you extreme emotional distress.
1) should you have the right to refuse the sale?
2) should the company you work for accommodate your personal beliefs?
3) should the company have the right to fire you (if you refuse the sale) in this situation?
4) Should you forget what you truly believe to your soul and bend to the will of the government.?
The "morning after" pill can be bought today from the shelves of most pharmacies and grocery stores, available to anyone of any age without restrictions, in a step that profoundly eases access to emergency contraception.
This simple relocation of the once-controversial "Plan B One Step" -- next to condoms, tampons and sanitary napkins, instead of behind pharmacy counters -- represents the final step in a complex decadelong legal battle to make it more easily available to women who want to prevent pregnancy after unprotected sex.
It was hyperbole, meant to highlight your failure of assumption.
It's pretty funny to see you continuing this, after complaining that I was assigning views to you a few posts ago.
Really?
You claim to hate the idea that women cannot buy Plan B because a hypothetical salesclerk might not want to sell it to her, yet you say nothing about the President of the United States working to make it less available.
Then you claim I support human sacrifice because I haven't spoken out against it, even though I have never been faced with the President of the United States, or anyone else, working to keep it around.
You are right about one thing, one of had a failure of assumption.
How is he working to make it less available?
Really?
You claim to hate the idea that women cannot buy Plan B because a hypothetical salesclerk might not want to sell it to her, yet you say nothing about the President of the United States working to make it less available.
Then you claim I support human sacrifice because I haven't spoken out against it, even though I have never been faced with the President of the United States, or anyone else, working to keep it around.
You are right about one thing, one of had a failure of assumption.
How is he working to make it less available?
READ THE FUCKING THREAD!
First he overturned the FDA scientific panel that recommended it be sold OTC, then he fought in court when activist sued him over the decision, and he ignored the court order when he lost. Finally, instead of complying with the order, he promulgated rules that moved it behind the counter so that people have to ask for it, and still require that anyone under an arbitrarily set age get a prescription.
To return to the actual topic of this thread:
You keep trying to make this about character and morals. It's not - its about doing the job you're being paid for.
If you work in a drugstore as a cashier, your job is to ring up whatever a customer wants to buy. If you refuse to do that, you're refusing to do your job.
Same with a waiter refusing to sell things offered on the menu.
If any employee of mine refused to do the job I was paying them for, I would fire them. Simple as that.
Again, if the employer is paying them, and you don't like the job they are doing, go shop somewhere else. That ends the debate on the terms you are trying to claim you are making it on, leaving you with nothing but the desire to fire people that you do not employ simply because you don't like their opinion.
To return to the actual topic of this thread:
Again, if the employer is paying them, and you don't like the job they are doing, go shop somewhere else. That ends the debate on the terms you are trying to claim you are making it on, leaving you with nothing but the desire to fire people that you do not employ simply because you don't like their opinion.
I think you might be a little confused as to the perspective of what we're talking about.
My "desires" don't have anything to do with this. You keep attempting to paint my argument as an emotional one, which it isn't.
If Lumpy's hypothetical were to actually happen in my drugstore, I wouldn't care. I would have no desire for that person to be fired.
But I'm pretty sure the manager of Walgreens would care if one of their employees refused to sell a product they offered.
If you're a cashier at a drug store, and your religious views prevent you from doing your job, you should look for employment somewhere else.
To return to the actual topic of this thread:
Again, if the employer is paying them, and you don't like the job they are doing, go shop somewhere else. That ends the debate on the terms you are trying to claim you are making it on, leaving you with nothing but the desire to fire people that you do not employ simply because you don't like their opinion.
I think you might be a little confused as to the perspective of what we're talking about.
My "desires" don't have anything to do with this. You keep attempting to paint my argument as an emotional one, which it isn't.
If Lumpy's hypothetical were to actually happen in my drugstore, I wouldn't care. I would have no desire for that person to be fired.
But I'm pretty sure the manager of Walgreens would care if one of their employees refused to sell a product they offered.
How is he working to make it less available?
READ THE FUCKING THREAD!
First he overturned the FDA scientific panel that recommended it be sold OTC, then he fought in court when activist sued him over the decision, and he ignored the court order when he lost. Finally, instead of complying with the order, he promulgated rules that moved it behind the counter so that people have to ask for it, and still require that anyone under an arbitrarily set age get a prescription.
He did fight it... But your info is out of date.
"NEW YORK The federal government on Monday told a judge it will reverse course and take steps to comply with his order to allow girls of any age to buy emergency contraception without prescriptions."
Obama Plan B Decision: Feds To Comply With NY Judge's Ruling
Typical QW, doesn't back up anything.
So obviously instead if READING THE FUCKING THREAD you should have made sure he had not reversed his course of action.
Idiot.
Second time today you couldn't back up something you claimed to be true
And not every state had required a prescription, just had to get it from the pharmacist.
And not every state had required a prescription, just had to get it from the pharmacist.
That was even dumber than you trying to argue that I didn't say that Obama changed his position.
The federal government, which has the power to throw pharmacists in prison, required that anyone buying Plan B obtain a prescription before they purchase it. States do not have the authority to require pharmacists to ignore federal law, so even if a state tried to allow Plan B to be sold without a prescription, no pharmacist would obey that law unless they were willing to go to prison, and lose their livelihood.
READ THE FUCKING THREAD!
First he overturned the FDA scientific panel that recommended it be sold OTC, then he fought in court when activist sued him over the decision, and he ignored the court order when he lost. Finally, instead of complying with the order, he promulgated rules that moved it behind the counter so that people have to ask for it, and still require that anyone under an arbitrarily set age get a prescription.
He did fight it... But your info is out of date.
"NEW YORK The federal government on Monday told a judge it will reverse course and take steps to comply with his order to allow girls of any age to buy emergency contraception without prescriptions."
Obama Plan B Decision: Feds To Comply With NY Judge's Ruling
Typical QW, doesn't back up anything.
My info is not out of date, the judge ordered the FDA to make it available without a prescription regardless of age, the Obama order ignored that and still requires a prescription for girls under 14. (I think that is the age.)
And not every state had required a prescription, just had to get it from the pharmacist.
That was even dumber than you trying to argue that I didn't say that Obama changed his position.
The federal government, which has the power to throw pharmacists in prison, required that anyone buying Plan B obtain a prescription before they purchase it. States do not have the authority to require pharmacists to ignore federal law, so even if a state tried to allow Plan B to be sold without a prescription, no pharmacist would obey that law unless they were willing to go to prison, and lose their livelihood.
No they didn't.
I bought it without a prescription from my doctor two years ago. I went the the pharmacy, told him I needed it, then paid for it and left.
You are a moron.
"The FDA originally approved the morning after pill at the end of the Clinton administration in 1999 and, in 2006, it was approved for nonprescription use for women 18 and older"
FDA Approves Sale of Plan B Morning After Pill to Teenagers | LifeNews.com
Get your facts straight moron.
