Personal Beliefs vs Morning After Pill

Why on Earth would you be surprised? Have you not been paying attention? I suggest you go back and read the thread again, you might just discover that my position makes more sense than yours.

If you owned a restaurant, and one of your waiters refused to sell coffee or booze on religious grounds, what would you do?

That would depend, is it a waiter that gets good tips and is popular with the customers, or does he refuse to take showers and generally make the place worse?

In other words, it would depend. Unlike you, I don't base my estimate of a man's character on a single thing, I leave that position to the bigots.

You keep trying to make this about character and morals. It's not - its about doing the job you're being paid for.

If you work in a drugstore as a cashier, your job is to ring up whatever a customer wants to buy. If you refuse to do that, you're refusing to do your job.

Same with a waiter refusing to sell things offered on the menu.

If any employee of mine refused to do the job I was paying them for, I would fire them. Simple as that.
 
If you don't, where is the evidence? Where did you come out and say something against his policy?

Where did I come out and say anything supporting his policy?

You wanted to know why I might think you support it. If you don't like the answer I suggest you deal with the fact that it is based in reality, not the fantasy world you base your interpretation of my beliefs on.

That must mean that you support human sacrifice, since I've never heard you come out and say anything against it.
 
If you owned a restaurant, and one of your waiters refused to sell coffee or booze on religious grounds, what would you do?

Actually I own a small piece of a restaurant. I would ask the employee to come to the office to accept the final paycheck I am about to write and inform them that the company will contest any unemployment benefit claim on the grounds they were fired for insubordination. That actually is in the contract we have waitstaff sign.
 
Where did I come out and say anything supporting his policy?

You wanted to know why I might think you support it. If you don't like the answer I suggest you deal with the fact that it is based in reality, not the fantasy world you base your interpretation of my beliefs on.

That must mean that you support human sacrifice, since I've never heard you come out and say anything against it.

Like I said, fantasy world.

Once you point out where someone is actually practicing human sacrifice, like Obama was actually arguing in court to keep Plan B available only with prescription, you will have a case for me supporting human sacrifice.
 
You wanted to know why I might think you support it. If you don't like the answer I suggest you deal with the fact that it is based in reality, not the fantasy world you base your interpretation of my beliefs on.

That must mean that you support human sacrifice, since I've never heard you come out and say anything against it.

Like I said, fantasy world.

Once you point out where someone is actually practicing human sacrifice, like Obama was actually arguing in court to keep Plan B available only with prescription, you will have a case for me supporting human sacrifice.

It was hyperbole, meant to highlight your failure of assumption.

It's pretty funny to see you continuing this, after complaining that I was assigning views to you a few posts ago.
 
If you don't, where is the evidence? Where did you come out and say something against his policy?

Where did I come out and say anything supporting his policy?

You wanted to know why I might think you support it. If you don't like the answer I suggest you deal with the fact that it is based in reality, not the fantasy world you base your interpretation of my beliefs on.

In what "reality" does a lack of evidence imply anything?
 
That must mean that you support human sacrifice, since I've never heard you come out and say anything against it.

Like I said, fantasy world.

Once you point out where someone is actually practicing human sacrifice, like Obama was actually arguing in court to keep Plan B available only with prescription, you will have a case for me supporting human sacrifice.

It was hyperbole, meant to highlight your failure of assumption.

It's pretty funny to see you continuing this, after complaining that I was assigning views to you a few posts ago.

Really?

You claim to hate the idea that women cannot buy Plan B because a hypothetical salesclerk might not want to sell it to her, yet you say nothing about the President of the United States working to make it less available.

Then you claim I support human sacrifice because I haven't spoken out against it, even though I have never been faced with the President of the United States, or anyone else, working to keep it around.

You are right about one thing, one of had a failure of assumption.
 
Where did I come out and say anything supporting his policy?

You wanted to know why I might think you support it. If you don't like the answer I suggest you deal with the fact that it is based in reality, not the fantasy world you base your interpretation of my beliefs on.

In what "reality" does a lack of evidence imply anything?

Every reality.

Unless you want to argue that Bigfoot is real.
 
Like I said, fantasy world.

Once you point out where someone is actually practicing human sacrifice, like Obama was actually arguing in court to keep Plan B available only with prescription, you will have a case for me supporting human sacrifice.

It was hyperbole, meant to highlight your failure of assumption.

It's pretty funny to see you continuing this, after complaining that I was assigning views to you a few posts ago.

Really?

You claim to hate the idea that women cannot buy Plan B because a hypothetical salesclerk might not want to sell it to her

I have made no such claim.

yet you say nothing about the President of the United States working to make it less available.

Actually, I just did say something about it. A few posts ago.

Then you claim I support human sacrifice because I haven't spoken out against it, even though I have never been faced with the President of the United States, or anyone else, working to keep it around.

Again, it's hyperbole. It's a rhetorical device, not meant to be taken literally.


We can keep going around in circles if you like, but that's not going to change the fact that your assumption was completely incorrect.
 
You wanted to know why I might think you support it. If you don't like the answer I suggest you deal with the fact that it is based in reality, not the fantasy world you base your interpretation of my beliefs on.

In what "reality" does a lack of evidence imply anything?

Every reality.

Unless you want to argue that Bigfoot is real.

Watching you run in circles is slightly entertaining, but it's getting boring.

To be clear:

I do not support Obama's attempt to keep Plan B a prescription drug. I have never supported it.

Now, do you have an argument that doesn't revolve around what you think I believe?
 
To return to the actual topic of this thread:

If you owned a restaurant, and one of your waiters refused to sell coffee or booze on religious grounds, what would you do?

That would depend, is it a waiter that gets good tips and is popular with the customers, or does he refuse to take showers and generally make the place worse?

In other words, it would depend. Unlike you, I don't base my estimate of a man's character on a single thing, I leave that position to the bigots.

You keep trying to make this about character and morals. It's not - its about doing the job you're being paid for.

If you work in a drugstore as a cashier, your job is to ring up whatever a customer wants to buy. If you refuse to do that, you're refusing to do your job.

Same with a waiter refusing to sell things offered on the menu.

If any employee of mine refused to do the job I was paying them for, I would fire them. Simple as that.
 
If you're a cashier at a drug store, and your religious views prevent you from doing your job, you should look for employment somewhere else.

So you should give up your livelihood because of liberal policies and have zero recourse?

Do you have the right to be a sniper in the Army if your conscience, morality, and faith cause you to refuse to kill anyone?
 
If you're a cashier at a drug store, and your religious views prevent you from doing your job, you should look for employment somewhere else.

So you should give up your livelihood because of liberal policies and have zero recourse?

Do you have the right to be a sniper in the Army if your conscience, morality, and faith cause you to refuse to kill anyone?

I'm pretty sure when you join the Army, you're owned by the Army.

....otherwise, a lot of liberal socialist Democrats would have bloody noses.
 
Let's just say you're a cashier at a pharmacy or grocery store and a customer walks up with a "Plan B One Step" abortion kit.

Then let's say your personal religious beliefs are so opposed to abortion that the idea of selling the product causes you extreme emotional distress.

1) should you have the right to refuse the sale?

2) should the company you work for accommodate your personal beliefs?

3) should the company have the right to fire you (if you refuse the sale) in this situation?

4) Should you forget what you truly believe to your soul and bend to the will of the government.?

5)...:eusa_think:


The "morning after" pill can be bought today from the shelves of most pharmacies and grocery stores, available to anyone of any age without restrictions, in a step that profoundly eases access to emergency contraception.

This simple relocation of the once-controversial "Plan B One Step" -- next to condoms, tampons and sanitary napkins, instead of behind pharmacy counters -- represents the final step in a complex decadelong legal battle to make it more easily available to women who want to prevent pregnancy after unprotected sex.

'Morning after' pill goes on sale Thursday in pharmacies and grocery stores, available to anyone - San Jose Mercury News

A. It's not an abortion pill

It is preventing egg implantation. Would they refuse to provide birth control too?
 
So you should give up your livelihood because of liberal policies and have zero recourse?

Do you have the right to be a sniper in the Army if your conscience, morality, and faith cause you to refuse to kill anyone?

I'm pretty sure when you join the Army, you're owned by the Army.

....otherwise, a lot of liberal socialist Democrats would have bloody noses.

Was that a yes, a no, or an I'm not going to answer because it destroys my argument?
 
So you should give up your livelihood because of liberal policies and have zero recourse?

Do you have the right to be a sniper in the Army if your conscience, morality, and faith cause you to refuse to kill anyone?

I'm pretty sure when you join the Army, you're owned by the Army.

....otherwise, a lot of liberal socialist Democrats would have bloody noses.

Let's try this.

Do you have the right to work at a brewery, delivering alcohol, if you're a Muslim whose religion doesn't allow you to transport alcohol?
 
Alcohol is not the morning after pill.

The morning after pill is an excuse for being totally irresponsible and stupid. It's a fall back and net for stupidity. It makes being an idiot oh so easy
I cannot even believe You're An Idiot run to the drugstore is legal.

As a worker I'd sell it and puke in my throat a little because the stupidity of people never ceases to amaze me.

But I would do it anyway and have a little shout out to my paycheck benefits and half matched 401k

Because jobs are jobs.

And idiots will be idiots no matter what the job or subject.
 
In what "reality" does a lack of evidence imply anything?

Every reality.

Unless you want to argue that Bigfoot is real.

Watching you run in circles is slightly entertaining, but it's getting boring.

To be clear:

I do not support Obama's attempt to keep Plan B a prescription drug. I have never supported it.

Now, do you have an argument that doesn't revolve around what you think I believe?

Finally, you take a position against The One.
 

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