Perspective: How Many Conservatives Would Kill You?

[HappyJoy]

First, the number of members of the pertinent groups...then their view on homicide.

1. "US Conservatives Outnumber Liberals by Narrowing Margin JANUARY 3, 2017

• 36% of Americans now conservative, 25% liberal
• Liberal figure has inched up from 17% in 1990s
• Conservatives mainly steady, while moderates decline

US Conservatives Outnumber Liberals by Narrowing Margin

2. Since about 130 million votes were cast in the last presidential election ... More votes were cast in 2016 than in 2012 — but that doesn’t mean turnout was great
....that would translate to about 46.8 million conservatives.



How would you react if a poll of conservatives found that over 9 million of 'em were perfectly fine with killing......slaughtering......any who didn't agree with conservative viewpoints????
Have you ever heard such killings voiced or approved by conservatives?





3.That's a serious consideration, and it's evidence of the insanity of Democrats/Liberals. Here's why:
"When asked whether targeting and killing civilians can be justified to further a political, social or religious cause, 84% of U.S. Muslims say such tactics can rarely (8%) or never (76%) be justified, while 12% say such violence can sometimes (7%) or often (5%) be justified."
U.S. Muslims Concerned About Their Place in Society, but Continue to Believe in the American Dream

Soooooo......20% of American Muslims are peachy keen with the murder of those who disagree with 'em.

4. For specific context,
"... President Barack Obama stated that “Over [the] last eight years, no foreign terrorist organization has successfully planned and executed an attack on our homeland.”
Talk about something actually deserving of being labeled as “fake news.”

When President George W. Bush left office, the U.S. had faced 28 Islamist plots after 9/11, only one of which was successful. Now there have been 93 Islamist plots since 9/11, and 14 successful attacks.

.... the vast majority of the terror plots and all of the successful attacks since 9/11 have involved homegrown terrorists—that is, terrorists who radicalized and plotted here in the U.S.
The threat has morphed and the U.S. must now do more to counter homegrown and lone wolf Islamist terrorists.

Obama’s comment obscures the truth that in his eight years in office, as shown by the sharp increase in the number of Islamist plots and successful attacks, the homeland has been less safe.
Claiming victory while the U.S. is in the most active period of terrorist activity since 9/11 is not only pushing a false narrative, but it risks diverting our attention from what needs to be done to defend the U.S. homeland."
Obama’s Terrorism Claim Hides an Inconvenient Truth




5. Now...how does this amount to the insanity of Democrats/Liberals?

"Immigraton To Swell Muslim Population to 6.2 Million
According to U.S. Census Data, the United States admits roughly 100,000 Muslim immigrants legally each year, representing the fastest growing block of immigration into the United States. Tennessee, in fact, is home to one of the fastest growing immigrant populations in the country, causing the President to give a recent speech there in favor of expansive immigration.

This demographic change is entirely the product of legal admissions–that is, it is a formal policy of the federal government adopted by Congress.

Another major source of Middle Eastern immigration into the United States is done through our nation’s refugee program. Every year the United Stated admits 70,000 asylees and refugees.Arabic is the most common language spoken by refugees, and 91.4 percent of refugees from the Middle East are on food stamps.

The importation of Middle Eastern immigrants through the nation’s refugee program has led to the development of pockets of radicalized communities throughout the United States." Immigration to Swell U.S. Muslim Population to 6.2 Million - Breitbart




And Bill's wife wanted to increase this by 550%.


And they wonder why they lost the election.

From your link: "
Compared with general public, Muslims more likely to say targeting, killing civilians is never justifiable"

Also, when you follow the link in the article to a further explanation of some of the answers, you get this: "The new question finds that among the general public, Americans with a high school degree or less education are somewhat more likely than those with more education to say there are circumstances in which violence against civilians can be justified. In addition, Republicans and those who lean toward the GOP are more likely than Democrats to say such tactics are sometimes or often justifiable."
5. Terrorism and concerns about extremism

If you're trying to use the responses by Muslims in that poll to paint them as murderous, you're doing a terrible job. Ditto Democrats. If anything, the poll apparently shows that those who lean Republican are the most likely to be "peachy keen with the murder of those who disagree with 'em."

Neat, PoliticalChic built an army of strawmen to ignore your post.

Why is it that disagreement is never built on substance?

Are you simply too devoid of an intellect?

Are you afraid of the other Liberals?

Or.....is my OP so unassailable that all you are able to do is provided, as you have, hot air?




Join the conservative side: you're actually allowed to think over here.

Why don't you just go back to that post and actually reply to it.

You made no point.
I provided exactly the response it earned.


I asked this:
Why is it that disagreement is never built on substance?

Are you simply too devoid of an intellect?

Are you afraid of the other Liberals?

Or.....is my OP so unassailable that all you are able to do is provided, as you have, hot air?


See if you can understand this: by not being able to respond to those queries, you have the answer that all would expect from you.

You're dismissed.

I see, still can't handle the fact that the poll you used so glaringly does not prove the point you were trying to make. That's on you to deal with and you're doing an astoundingly poor job of it.

 

[PoliticalChic]

From your link: "
Compared with general public, Muslims more likely to say targeting, killing civilians is never justifiable"

Also, when you follow the link in the article to a further explanation of some of the answers, you get this: "The new question finds that among the general public, Americans with a high school degree or less education are somewhat more likely than those with more education to say there are circumstances in which violence against civilians can be justified. In addition, Republicans and those who lean toward the GOP are more likely than Democrats to say such tactics are sometimes or often justifiable."
5. Terrorism and concerns about extremism

If you're trying to use the responses by Muslims in that poll to paint them as murderous, you're doing a terrible job. Ditto Democrats. If anything, the poll apparently shows that those who lean Republican are the most likely to be "peachy keen with the murder of those who disagree with 'em."

Neat, PoliticalChic built an army of strawmen to ignore your post.

Why is it that disagreement is never built on substance?

Are you simply too devoid of an intellect?

Are you afraid of the other Liberals?

Or.....is my OP so unassailable that all you are able to do is provided, as you have, hot air?




Join the conservative side: you're actually allowed to think over here.

Why don't you just go back to that post and actually reply to it.

You made no point.
I provided exactly the response it earned.


I asked this:
Why is it that disagreement is never built on substance?

Are you simply too devoid of an intellect?

Are you afraid of the other Liberals?

Or.....is my OP so unassailable that all you are able to do is provided, as you have, hot air?


See if you can understand this: by not being able to respond to those queries, you have the answer that all would expect from you.

You're dismissed.

I see, still can't handle the fact that the poll you used so glaringly does not prove the point you were trying to make. That's on you to deal with and you're doing an astoundingly poor job of it.

3.That's a serious consideration, and it's evidence of the insanity of Democrats/Liberals.Here's why:
"When asked whether targeting and killing civilians can be justified to further a political, social or religious cause, 84% of U.S. Muslims say such tactics can rarely (8%) or never (76%) be justified, while 12% say such violence can sometimes (7%) or often (5%) be justified."
U.S. Muslims Concerned About Their Place in Society, but Continue to Believe in the American Dream

Soooooo......20% of American Muslims are peachy keen with the murder of those who disagree with 'em.



How much is 8 plus 12?


Take your time, you dunce.

 

[HappyJoy]

Neat, PoliticalChic built an army of strawmen to ignore your post.

Why is it that disagreement is never built on substance?

Are you simply too devoid of an intellect?

Are you afraid of the other Liberals?

Or.....is my OP so unassailable that all you are able to do is provided, as you have, hot air?




Join the conservative side: you're actually allowed to think over here.

Why don't you just go back to that post and actually reply to it.

You made no point.
I provided exactly the response it earned.


I asked this:
Why is it that disagreement is never built on substance?

Are you simply too devoid of an intellect?

Are you afraid of the other Liberals?

Or.....is my OP so unassailable that all you are able to do is provided, as you have, hot air?


See if you can understand this: by not being able to respond to those queries, you have the answer that all would expect from you.

You're dismissed.

I see, still can't handle the fact that the poll you used so glaringly does not prove the point you were trying to make. That's on you to deal with and you're doing an astoundingly poor job of it.

3.That's a serious consideration, and it's evidence of the insanity of Democrats/Liberals.Here's why:
"When asked whether targeting and killing civilians can be justified to further a political, social or religious cause, 84% of U.S. Muslims say such tactics can rarely (8%) or never (76%) be justified, while 12% say such violence can sometimes (7%) or often (5%) be justified."
U.S. Muslims Concerned About Their Place in Society, but Continue to Believe in the American Dream

Soooooo......20% of American Muslims are peachy keen with the murder of those who disagree with 'em.



How much is 8 plus 12?


Take your time, you dunce.

It's not my post you need to reply to.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Who's the moron who posted this?
" the fact that the poll you used so glaringly does not prove the point you were trying to make."





3.That's a serious consideration, and it's evidence of the insanity of Democrats/Liberals.Here's why:
"When asked whether targeting and killing civilians can be justified to further a political, social or religious cause, 84% of U.S. Muslims say such tactics can rarely (8%) or never (76%) be justified, while 12% say such violence can sometimes (7%) or often (5%) be justified."
U.S. Muslims Concerned About Their Place in Society, but Continue to Believe in the American Dream

Soooooo......20% of American Muslims are peachy keen with the murder of those who disagree with 'em.



How much is 8 plus 12?


Take your time, you dunce.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Moderates are left of center on balance so a large number of them count as liberals.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Who's the moron who posted this?
" the fact that the poll you used so glaringly does not prove the point you were trying to make."





3.That's a serious consideration, and it's evidence of the insanity of Democrats/Liberals.Here's why:
"When asked whether targeting and killing civilians can be justified to further a political, social or religious cause, 84% of U.S. Muslims say such tactics can rarely (8%) or never (76%) be justified, while 12% say such violence can sometimes (7%) or often (5%) be justified."
U.S. Muslims Concerned About Their Place in Society, but Continue to Believe in the American Dream

Soooooo......20% of American Muslims are peachy keen with the murder of those who disagree with 'em.



How much is 8 plus 12?


Take your time, you dunce.

where the fuck did you learn math?

 

[Montrovant]

First, the number of members of the pertinent groups...then their view on homicide.

1. "US Conservatives Outnumber Liberals by Narrowing Margin JANUARY 3, 2017

• 36% of Americans now conservative, 25% liberal
• Liberal figure has inched up from 17% in 1990s
• Conservatives mainly steady, while moderates decline

US Conservatives Outnumber Liberals by Narrowing Margin

2. Since about 130 million votes were cast in the last presidential election ... More votes were cast in 2016 than in 2012 — but that doesn’t mean turnout was great
....that would translate to about 46.8 million conservatives.



How would you react if a poll of conservatives found that over 9 million of 'em were perfectly fine with killing......slaughtering......any who didn't agree with conservative viewpoints????
Have you ever heard such killings voiced or approved by conservatives?





3.That's a serious consideration, and it's evidence of the insanity of Democrats/Liberals. Here's why:
"When asked whether targeting and killing civilians can be justified to further a political, social or religious cause, 84% of U.S. Muslims say such tactics can rarely (8%) or never (76%) be justified, while 12% say such violence can sometimes (7%) or often (5%) be justified."
U.S. Muslims Concerned About Their Place in Society, but Continue to Believe in the American Dream

Soooooo......20% of American Muslims are peachy keen with the murder of those who disagree with 'em.

4. For specific context,
"... President Barack Obama stated that “Over [the] last eight years, no foreign terrorist organization has successfully planned and executed an attack on our homeland.”
Talk about something actually deserving of being labeled as “fake news.”

When President George W. Bush left office, the U.S. had faced 28 Islamist plots after 9/11, only one of which was successful. Now there have been 93 Islamist plots since 9/11, and 14 successful attacks.

.... the vast majority of the terror plots and all of the successful attacks since 9/11 have involved homegrown terrorists—that is, terrorists who radicalized and plotted here in the U.S.
The threat has morphed and the U.S. must now do more to counter homegrown and lone wolf Islamist terrorists.

Obama’s comment obscures the truth that in his eight years in office, as shown by the sharp increase in the number of Islamist plots and successful attacks, the homeland has been less safe.
Claiming victory while the U.S. is in the most active period of terrorist activity since 9/11 is not only pushing a false narrative, but it risks diverting our attention from what needs to be done to defend the U.S. homeland."
Obama’s Terrorism Claim Hides an Inconvenient Truth




5. Now...how does this amount to the insanity of Democrats/Liberals?

"Immigraton To Swell Muslim Population to 6.2 Million
According to U.S. Census Data, the United States admits roughly 100,000 Muslim immigrants legally each year, representing the fastest growing block of immigration into the United States. Tennessee, in fact, is home to one of the fastest growing immigrant populations in the country, causing the President to give a recent speech there in favor of expansive immigration.

This demographic change is entirely the product of legal admissions–that is, it is a formal policy of the federal government adopted by Congress.

Another major source of Middle Eastern immigration into the United States is done through our nation’s refugee program. Every year the United Stated admits 70,000 asylees and refugees.Arabic is the most common language spoken by refugees, and 91.4 percent of refugees from the Middle East are on food stamps.

The importation of Middle Eastern immigrants through the nation’s refugee program has led to the development of pockets of radicalized communities throughout the United States." Immigration to Swell U.S. Muslim Population to 6.2 Million - Breitbart




And Bill's wife wanted to increase this by 550%.


And they wonder why they lost the election.

From your link: "
Compared with general public, Muslims more likely to say targeting, killing civilians is never justifiable"

Also, when you follow the link in the article to a further explanation of some of the answers, you get this: "The new question finds that among the general public, Americans with a high school degree or less education are somewhat more likely than those with more education to say there are circumstances in which violence against civilians can be justified. In addition, Republicans and those who lean toward the GOP are more likely than Democrats to say such tactics are sometimes or often justifiable."
5. Terrorism and concerns about extremism

If you're trying to use the responses by Muslims in that poll to paint them as murderous, you're doing a terrible job. Ditto Democrats. If anything, the poll apparently shows that those who lean Republican are the most likely to be "peachy keen with the murder of those who disagree with 'em."

"Americans with a high school degree or less education are somewhat more likely than those with more education to say there are circumstances in which violence against civilians can be justified. In addition, Republicans and those who lean toward the GOP are more likely than Democrats to say such tactics are sometimes or often justifiable."


So good of you to have turned up just in time for a lesson.


1. More details are emerging about Humam al-Balawi, the man who blew up seven intelligence agents in Afghanistan. By education and professional status, the Jordanian doctor is typical of recent suicidal attackers. The man accused of trying to blow up a plane on Christmas Day is a Nigerian graduate of the University of London. In the Fort Hood shootings, a Palestinian-American psychiatrist in the U.S. Army has been charged.
Humam al-Balawi was said to be carrying information about Ayman al-Zawahiri, Osama bin Laden's number two, himself a surgeon who was born to a prominent Egyptian family.
Mohamed Atta of 9/11, who was an Egyptian urban planner who had been working in Germany - these are not the wretched of the earth. What essentially is the grievance that draws them to al-Qaida?
Groups Recruiting Well-Educated Terrorists : NPR

2. A recent study at Princeton University by Alan Krueger and Jitka Maleckova, called "Education, Poverty, Political Violence and Terrorism: Is There a Causal Connection?" argues this point. One piece of the Krueger-Maleckova evidence involves 129 members of Hezbollah who died in action, mostly against Israel, from 1982 to 1994. Hezbollah is now designated by the U.S. as a terrorist organization. Biographical information from the Hezbollah newspaper al-Ahd indicates that the fighters who died were, on average, more educated and less impoverished than the Lebanese population of comparable age and regional origin….Moreover, the Palestinians' adherence to the view that the mass murder of civilians was not terrorism was independent of education and higher among those working than unemployed. Hence, support for terrorism was not reduced by increases in education and income….a study by Charles Russell and Bowman Miller (reprinted in the 1983 book Perspectives on Terrorism) considered 18 revolutionary groups, including the Japanese Red Army, Germany's Baader-Meinhof Gang, and Italy's Red Brigades. The authors found that "the vast majority of those individuals involved in terrorist activities as cadres or leaders is quite well-educated. In fact, approximately two-thirds of those identified terrorists are persons with some university training, [and] well over two-thirds of these individuals came from the middle or upper classes in their respective nations or areas." BW Online | June 10, 2002 | The Myth That Poverty Breeds Terrorism
http://www.krueger.princeton.edu/terrorism2.pdf

3. …men who belonged to violent Islamist groups active over the past few decades (some in jail, some not). Had those groups reflected the working-age populations of their countries, engineers would have made up about 3.5 percent of the membership. Instead, nearly 20 percent of the militants had engineering degrees. When Gambetta and Hertog looked at only the militants whose education was known for certain to have gone beyond high school, close to half (44 percent) had trained in engineering.
Today's Highly Educated Terrorists | The National Interest Blog

Today's Highly Educated Terrorists

4. Pol Pot, was the leader of the Cambodian communist movement known as the Khmer Rouge[3] and was Prime Minister of Democratic Kampuchea from 1976–1979. Pol Pot's leadership, in which he attempted to "cleanse" the country, resulted in the deaths of an estimated 1.7–2.5 million people…. he qualified for a scholarship that allowed for technical study in France. He studied radio electronics at the EFR in Paris from 1949 to 1953 Pol Pot - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

5. Khmer Rouge leader Khieu Samphan, who had studied in Paris, wrote in his doctoral dissertation that the Cambodian economy and social structure would be renewed by tapping “the dormant energy of the peasant mass” against the cities. “Kissinger, “The White House Years,” p. 518.

6. Ernesto "Che" Guevara "the man was a mass killer. Hundreds were reportedly executed on his watch" Why Do people love a mass murder like Che? // Current

Ernesto Guevara de la Serna (1928-1967) was an Argentine physician... Learn About the Life of Che Guevara


As a young boy growing up, he had a passion for education, literature and philosophy. Mao Zedong
"he worked as a doctor. Che Guevara : Biography

7. Lenin was born Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov, April 22, 1870….In 1891 he passed the law examinations at the University of St. Petersburg as an external student, scoring first in his class. He practiced law briefly in Samara before devoting himself to the revolutionary movement. Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin), 1870-1924

8. Bashar al-Assad is the President of the Syrian Arab Republic, Regional Secretary of the Ba'ath Party, and the son of former President Hafez al-Assad. Al-Assad is a controversial figure both in Syria and Internationally… for his disregard for human rights, economic lapses, sponsorship of terrorism, and corruption. Bashar studied ophthalmology at Damascus University 1988 and arrived in London in 1992 to continue his studies. Bashar al-Assad - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



9. Mao was a rebellious teen-ager. His father wanted him to be a farmer; Mao wanted more education beyond the village grammar school. Mao left home at age 13 to attend an advanced school in a nearby district and in 1911 arrived in Changsha, the provincial capital, to attend secondary school…. He tried law enforcement, business and history before settling on education, graduating from a teachers' training school in 1918. He departed for Beijing to attend the university. CNN In-Depth Specials - Visions of China - Profiles: Mao Tse-tung



10.Al Qaeda leader Ayman al Zawahiri received his master's degree in surgery from Cairo University.... Ayman al Zawahiri


11. Nidal Hasan, Abdulmutallab and Humam al-Balawi are jihadists who were educated and came from privileged middle- and upper-class backgrounds. Hasan was an American-trained U. S. Army doctor, Abdulmutallab was a London engineering student and the son of a wealthy Nigerian banker, and double-agent Dr. Humam al-Balawi was a member of the Jordanian professional class. The Educated Muslim Terrorist


12. "One piece of the Krueger-Maleckova evidence involves 129 members of Hezbollah who died in action, mostly against Israel, from 1982 to 1994. Hezbollah is now designated by the U.S. as a terrorist organization. Biographical information from the Hezbollah newspaper al-Ahd indicates that the fighters who died were, on average, more educated and less impoverished than the Lebanese population of comparable age and regional origin." The Myth That Poverty Breeds Terrorism

and......" a study by Charles Russell and Bowman Miller (reprinted in the 1983 book Perspectives on Terrorism) considered 18 revolutionary groups, including the Japanese Red Army, Germany's Baader-Meinhof Gang, and Italy's Red Brigades. The authors found that "the vast majority of those individuals involved in terrorist activities as cadres or leaders is quite well-educated. In fact, approximately two-thirds of those identified terrorists are persons with some university training, [and] well over two-thirds of these individuals came from the middle or upper classes in their respective nations or areas."Ibid.


13. Fidel Castro was a talented student, and decided to pursue a career in law, entering the University of Havana Law School in 1945. After graduating law school, he opened a law office that primarily catered for poor Cubans, although it proved a financial failure.

Fidel Castro Biography - life, family, parents, story, history, school, mother, young, son, old, information, born


Highly educated Leftists, smart guys all....




Is it possible that you are soooooo ignorant as to not recognize the Q'ran as a manual of warfare?????


Are you that dumb????

As per usual, a giant pile of deflection. None of what you posted changes the fact that the poll you quoted as a way to make Muslims, and Democrats by association, look murderous, actually showed Muslims polling as less willing to kill for political, social, or religious reasons than the non-Muslim US public.

You seem to be arguing against your own link.

I'm not arguing for or against Islam, I'm not arguing that the Koran is a good book, I'm not even arguing that certain types of people are more likely to accept violence as a solution. I'm pointing out the cherry-picking you used.

1. I just disproved your link: it's not education, it's values.


2. If you'd care to read it, I'd be happy to provide a list of all 93 Islamist plots that developed during the 8 year abomination known as the Obama years.

3. "I'm not arguing for or against Islam, I'm not arguing that the Koran is a good book, I'm not even arguing that certain types of people are more likely to accept violence as a solution."

What you are arguing for is closing your eyes tightly and burying your head in the sand.
And doing a particularly poor job of it.

You disproved my link?

"My" link is YOUR link. I looked at the link from your OP, and followed a link within that page to a further explanation of the poll results.

What I am arguing, and have been arguing, is that you attempted to use a particular portion of a poll to make a point, but when taken in context, that poll result actually says something else entirely.

 

[PoliticalChic]

First, the number of members of the pertinent groups...then their view on homicide.

1. "US Conservatives Outnumber Liberals by Narrowing Margin JANUARY 3, 2017

• 36% of Americans now conservative, 25% liberal
• Liberal figure has inched up from 17% in 1990s
• Conservatives mainly steady, while moderates decline

US Conservatives Outnumber Liberals by Narrowing Margin

2. Since about 130 million votes were cast in the last presidential election ... More votes were cast in 2016 than in 2012 — but that doesn’t mean turnout was great
....that would translate to about 46.8 million conservatives.



How would you react if a poll of conservatives found that over 9 million of 'em were perfectly fine with killing......slaughtering......any who didn't agree with conservative viewpoints????
Have you ever heard such killings voiced or approved by conservatives?





3.That's a serious consideration, and it's evidence of the insanity of Democrats/Liberals. Here's why:
"When asked whether targeting and killing civilians can be justified to further a political, social or religious cause, 84% of U.S. Muslims say such tactics can rarely (8%) or never (76%) be justified, while 12% say such violence can sometimes (7%) or often (5%) be justified."
U.S. Muslims Concerned About Their Place in Society, but Continue to Believe in the American Dream

Soooooo......20% of American Muslims are peachy keen with the murder of those who disagree with 'em.

4. For specific context,
"... President Barack Obama stated that “Over [the] last eight years, no foreign terrorist organization has successfully planned and executed an attack on our homeland.”
Talk about something actually deserving of being labeled as “fake news.”

When President George W. Bush left office, the U.S. had faced 28 Islamist plots after 9/11, only one of which was successful. Now there have been 93 Islamist plots since 9/11, and 14 successful attacks.

.... the vast majority of the terror plots and all of the successful attacks since 9/11 have involved homegrown terrorists—that is, terrorists who radicalized and plotted here in the U.S.
The threat has morphed and the U.S. must now do more to counter homegrown and lone wolf Islamist terrorists.

Obama’s comment obscures the truth that in his eight years in office, as shown by the sharp increase in the number of Islamist plots and successful attacks, the homeland has been less safe.
Claiming victory while the U.S. is in the most active period of terrorist activity since 9/11 is not only pushing a false narrative, but it risks diverting our attention from what needs to be done to defend the U.S. homeland."
Obama’s Terrorism Claim Hides an Inconvenient Truth




5. Now...how does this amount to the insanity of Democrats/Liberals?

"Immigraton To Swell Muslim Population to 6.2 Million
According to U.S. Census Data, the United States admits roughly 100,000 Muslim immigrants legally each year, representing the fastest growing block of immigration into the United States. Tennessee, in fact, is home to one of the fastest growing immigrant populations in the country, causing the President to give a recent speech there in favor of expansive immigration.

This demographic change is entirely the product of legal admissions–that is, it is a formal policy of the federal government adopted by Congress.

Another major source of Middle Eastern immigration into the United States is done through our nation’s refugee program. Every year the United Stated admits 70,000 asylees and refugees.Arabic is the most common language spoken by refugees, and 91.4 percent of refugees from the Middle East are on food stamps.

The importation of Middle Eastern immigrants through the nation’s refugee program has led to the development of pockets of radicalized communities throughout the United States." Immigration to Swell U.S. Muslim Population to 6.2 Million - Breitbart




And Bill's wife wanted to increase this by 550%.


And they wonder why they lost the election.

From your link: "
Compared with general public, Muslims more likely to say targeting, killing civilians is never justifiable"

Also, when you follow the link in the article to a further explanation of some of the answers, you get this: "The new question finds that among the general public, Americans with a high school degree or less education are somewhat more likely than those with more education to say there are circumstances in which violence against civilians can be justified. In addition, Republicans and those who lean toward the GOP are more likely than Democrats to say such tactics are sometimes or often justifiable."
5. Terrorism and concerns about extremism

If you're trying to use the responses by Muslims in that poll to paint them as murderous, you're doing a terrible job. Ditto Democrats. If anything, the poll apparently shows that those who lean Republican are the most likely to be "peachy keen with the murder of those who disagree with 'em."

"Americans with a high school degree or less education are somewhat more likely than those with more education to say there are circumstances in which violence against civilians can be justified. In addition, Republicans and those who lean toward the GOP are more likely than Democrats to say such tactics are sometimes or often justifiable."


So good of you to have turned up just in time for a lesson.


1. More details are emerging about Humam al-Balawi, the man who blew up seven intelligence agents in Afghanistan. By education and professional status, the Jordanian doctor is typical of recent suicidal attackers. The man accused of trying to blow up a plane on Christmas Day is a Nigerian graduate of the University of London. In the Fort Hood shootings, a Palestinian-American psychiatrist in the U.S. Army has been charged.
Humam al-Balawi was said to be carrying information about Ayman al-Zawahiri, Osama bin Laden's number two, himself a surgeon who was born to a prominent Egyptian family.
Mohamed Atta of 9/11, who was an Egyptian urban planner who had been working in Germany - these are not the wretched of the earth. What essentially is the grievance that draws them to al-Qaida?
Groups Recruiting Well-Educated Terrorists : NPR

2. A recent study at Princeton University by Alan Krueger and Jitka Maleckova, called "Education, Poverty, Political Violence and Terrorism: Is There a Causal Connection?" argues this point. One piece of the Krueger-Maleckova evidence involves 129 members of Hezbollah who died in action, mostly against Israel, from 1982 to 1994. Hezbollah is now designated by the U.S. as a terrorist organization. Biographical information from the Hezbollah newspaper al-Ahd indicates that the fighters who died were, on average, more educated and less impoverished than the Lebanese population of comparable age and regional origin….Moreover, the Palestinians' adherence to the view that the mass murder of civilians was not terrorism was independent of education and higher among those working than unemployed. Hence, support for terrorism was not reduced by increases in education and income….a study by Charles Russell and Bowman Miller (reprinted in the 1983 book Perspectives on Terrorism) considered 18 revolutionary groups, including the Japanese Red Army, Germany's Baader-Meinhof Gang, and Italy's Red Brigades. The authors found that "the vast majority of those individuals involved in terrorist activities as cadres or leaders is quite well-educated. In fact, approximately two-thirds of those identified terrorists are persons with some university training, [and] well over two-thirds of these individuals came from the middle or upper classes in their respective nations or areas." BW Online | June 10, 2002 | The Myth That Poverty Breeds Terrorism
http://www.krueger.princeton.edu/terrorism2.pdf

3. …men who belonged to violent Islamist groups active over the past few decades (some in jail, some not). Had those groups reflected the working-age populations of their countries, engineers would have made up about 3.5 percent of the membership. Instead, nearly 20 percent of the militants had engineering degrees. When Gambetta and Hertog looked at only the militants whose education was known for certain to have gone beyond high school, close to half (44 percent) had trained in engineering.
Today's Highly Educated Terrorists | The National Interest Blog

Today's Highly Educated Terrorists

4. Pol Pot, was the leader of the Cambodian communist movement known as the Khmer Rouge[3] and was Prime Minister of Democratic Kampuchea from 1976–1979. Pol Pot's leadership, in which he attempted to "cleanse" the country, resulted in the deaths of an estimated 1.7–2.5 million people…. he qualified for a scholarship that allowed for technical study in France. He studied radio electronics at the EFR in Paris from 1949 to 1953 Pol Pot - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

5. Khmer Rouge leader Khieu Samphan, who had studied in Paris, wrote in his doctoral dissertation that the Cambodian economy and social structure would be renewed by tapping “the dormant energy of the peasant mass” against the cities. “Kissinger, “The White House Years,” p. 518.

6. Ernesto "Che" Guevara "the man was a mass killer. Hundreds were reportedly executed on his watch" Why Do people love a mass murder like Che? // Current

Ernesto Guevara de la Serna (1928-1967) was an Argentine physician... Learn About the Life of Che Guevara


As a young boy growing up, he had a passion for education, literature and philosophy. Mao Zedong
"he worked as a doctor. Che Guevara : Biography

7. Lenin was born Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov, April 22, 1870….In 1891 he passed the law examinations at the University of St. Petersburg as an external student, scoring first in his class. He practiced law briefly in Samara before devoting himself to the revolutionary movement. Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin), 1870-1924

8. Bashar al-Assad is the President of the Syrian Arab Republic, Regional Secretary of the Ba'ath Party, and the son of former President Hafez al-Assad. Al-Assad is a controversial figure both in Syria and Internationally… for his disregard for human rights, economic lapses, sponsorship of terrorism, and corruption. Bashar studied ophthalmology at Damascus University 1988 and arrived in London in 1992 to continue his studies. Bashar al-Assad - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



9. Mao was a rebellious teen-ager. His father wanted him to be a farmer; Mao wanted more education beyond the village grammar school. Mao left home at age 13 to attend an advanced school in a nearby district and in 1911 arrived in Changsha, the provincial capital, to attend secondary school…. He tried law enforcement, business and history before settling on education, graduating from a teachers' training school in 1918. He departed for Beijing to attend the university. CNN In-Depth Specials - Visions of China - Profiles: Mao Tse-tung



10.Al Qaeda leader Ayman al Zawahiri received his master's degree in surgery from Cairo University.... Ayman al Zawahiri


11. Nidal Hasan, Abdulmutallab and Humam al-Balawi are jihadists who were educated and came from privileged middle- and upper-class backgrounds. Hasan was an American-trained U. S. Army doctor, Abdulmutallab was a London engineering student and the son of a wealthy Nigerian banker, and double-agent Dr. Humam al-Balawi was a member of the Jordanian professional class. The Educated Muslim Terrorist


12. "One piece of the Krueger-Maleckova evidence involves 129 members of Hezbollah who died in action, mostly against Israel, from 1982 to 1994. Hezbollah is now designated by the U.S. as a terrorist organization. Biographical information from the Hezbollah newspaper al-Ahd indicates that the fighters who died were, on average, more educated and less impoverished than the Lebanese population of comparable age and regional origin." The Myth That Poverty Breeds Terrorism

and......" a study by Charles Russell and Bowman Miller (reprinted in the 1983 book Perspectives on Terrorism) considered 18 revolutionary groups, including the Japanese Red Army, Germany's Baader-Meinhof Gang, and Italy's Red Brigades. The authors found that "the vast majority of those individuals involved in terrorist activities as cadres or leaders is quite well-educated. In fact, approximately two-thirds of those identified terrorists are persons with some university training, [and] well over two-thirds of these individuals came from the middle or upper classes in their respective nations or areas."Ibid.


13. Fidel Castro was a talented student, and decided to pursue a career in law, entering the University of Havana Law School in 1945. After graduating law school, he opened a law office that primarily catered for poor Cubans, although it proved a financial failure.

Fidel Castro Biography - life, family, parents, story, history, school, mother, young, son, old, information, born


Highly educated Leftists, smart guys all....




Is it possible that you are soooooo ignorant as to not recognize the Q'ran as a manual of warfare?????


Are you that dumb????

As per usual, a giant pile of deflection. None of what you posted changes the fact that the poll you quoted as a way to make Muslims, and Democrats by association, look murderous, actually showed Muslims polling as less willing to kill for political, social, or religious reasons than the non-Muslim US public.

You seem to be arguing against your own link.

I'm not arguing for or against Islam, I'm not arguing that the Koran is a good book, I'm not even arguing that certain types of people are more likely to accept violence as a solution. I'm pointing out the cherry-picking you used.

1. I just disproved your link: it's not education, it's values.


2. If you'd care to read it, I'd be happy to provide a list of all 93 Islamist plots that developed during the 8 year abomination known as the Obama years.

3. "I'm not arguing for or against Islam, I'm not arguing that the Koran is a good book, I'm not even arguing that certain types of people are more likely to accept violence as a solution."

What you are arguing for is closing your eyes tightly and burying your head in the sand.
And doing a particularly poor job of it.

You disproved my link?

"My" link is YOUR link. I looked at the link from your OP, and followed a link within that page to a further explanation of the poll results.

What I am arguing, and have been arguing, is that you attempted to use a particular portion of a poll to make a point, but when taken in context, that poll result actually says something else entirely.

That's right.

I disproved your link, you moron.

This:
"Americans with a high school degree or less education blah blah blah....."

I showed that educational attainment has nothing.....nothing.....to do with the propensity for violence.



So, P.T. Barnum sent a congratulatory note when you were born?

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

First, the number of members of the pertinent groups...then their view on homicide.

1. "US Conservatives Outnumber Liberals by Narrowing Margin JANUARY 3, 2017

• 36% of Americans now conservative, 25% liberal
• Liberal figure has inched up from 17% in 1990s
• Conservatives mainly steady, while moderates decline

US Conservatives Outnumber Liberals by Narrowing Margin

2. Since about 130 million votes were cast in the last presidential election ... More votes were cast in 2016 than in 2012 — but that doesn’t mean turnout was great
....that would translate to about 46.8 million conservatives.



How would you react if a poll of conservatives found that over 9 million of 'em were perfectly fine with killing......slaughtering......any who didn't agree with conservative viewpoints????
Have you ever heard such killings voiced or approved by conservatives?





3.That's a serious consideration, and it's evidence of the insanity of Democrats/Liberals. Here's why:
"When asked whether targeting and killing civilians can be justified to further a political, social or religious cause, 84% of U.S. Muslims say such tactics can rarely (8%) or never (76%) be justified, while 12% say such violence can sometimes (7%) or often (5%) be justified."
U.S. Muslims Concerned About Their Place in Society, but Continue to Believe in the American Dream

Soooooo......20% of American Muslims are peachy keen with the murder of those who disagree with 'em.

4. For specific context,
"... President Barack Obama stated that “Over [the] last eight years, no foreign terrorist organization has successfully planned and executed an attack on our homeland.”
Talk about something actually deserving of being labeled as “fake news.”

When President George W. Bush left office, the U.S. had faced 28 Islamist plots after 9/11, only one of which was successful. Now there have been 93 Islamist plots since 9/11, and 14 successful attacks.

.... the vast majority of the terror plots and all of the successful attacks since 9/11 have involved homegrown terrorists—that is, terrorists who radicalized and plotted here in the U.S.
The threat has morphed and the U.S. must now do more to counter homegrown and lone wolf Islamist terrorists.

Obama’s comment obscures the truth that in his eight years in office, as shown by the sharp increase in the number of Islamist plots and successful attacks, the homeland has been less safe.
Claiming victory while the U.S. is in the most active period of terrorist activity since 9/11 is not only pushing a false narrative, but it risks diverting our attention from what needs to be done to defend the U.S. homeland."
Obama’s Terrorism Claim Hides an Inconvenient Truth




5. Now...how does this amount to the insanity of Democrats/Liberals?

"Immigraton To Swell Muslim Population to 6.2 Million
According to U.S. Census Data, the United States admits roughly 100,000 Muslim immigrants legally each year, representing the fastest growing block of immigration into the United States. Tennessee, in fact, is home to one of the fastest growing immigrant populations in the country, causing the President to give a recent speech there in favor of expansive immigration.

This demographic change is entirely the product of legal admissions–that is, it is a formal policy of the federal government adopted by Congress.

Another major source of Middle Eastern immigration into the United States is done through our nation’s refugee program. Every year the United Stated admits 70,000 asylees and refugees.Arabic is the most common language spoken by refugees, and 91.4 percent of refugees from the Middle East are on food stamps.

The importation of Middle Eastern immigrants through the nation’s refugee program has led to the development of pockets of radicalized communities throughout the United States." Immigration to Swell U.S. Muslim Population to 6.2 Million - Breitbart




And Bill's wife wanted to increase this by 550%.


And they wonder why they lost the election.

From your link: "
Compared with general public, Muslims more likely to say targeting, killing civilians is never justifiable"

Also, when you follow the link in the article to a further explanation of some of the answers, you get this: "The new question finds that among the general public, Americans with a high school degree or less education are somewhat more likely than those with more education to say there are circumstances in which violence against civilians can be justified. In addition, Republicans and those who lean toward the GOP are more likely than Democrats to say such tactics are sometimes or often justifiable."
5. Terrorism and concerns about extremism

If you're trying to use the responses by Muslims in that poll to paint them as murderous, you're doing a terrible job. Ditto Democrats. If anything, the poll apparently shows that those who lean Republican are the most likely to be "peachy keen with the murder of those who disagree with 'em."

If anything, the poll apparently shows that those who lean Republican are the most likely to be "peachy keen with the murder of those who disagree with 'em."

The reason why liberals FEAR Conservatives, is that US Conservatives, believe in the 2nd amendment and will exercise that amendment when a liberal wishes to break into our houses and take the FREE stuff that the liberal thinks he/she/it owns. So when approached by a Conservative with a large caliber weapon, that liberal will soon find out, his right to free stuff, ends when the 2nd amendment is used.

 

[miketx]

Street thugs, robbers, meth heads, muggers, rapists, drug dealers, petty thieves, ineligible firearms possessors, prostitutes, crack heads.....all believers in liberal or progressive values.

When I worked in the prison you would not believe how many cons thought Clinton would have made an excellent President.

 

[JGalt]

Street thugs, robbers, meth heads, muggers, rapists, drug dealers, petty thieves, ineligible firearms possessors, prostitutes, crack heads.....all believers in liberal or progressive values.

When I worked in the prison you would not believe how many cons thought Clinton would have made an excellent President.

That must be an unwritten rule: "All felons must for for Democrats."

 

[Montrovant]

From your link: "
Compared with general public, Muslims more likely to say targeting, killing civilians is never justifiable"

Also, when you follow the link in the article to a further explanation of some of the answers, you get this: "The new question finds that among the general public, Americans with a high school degree or less education are somewhat more likely than those with more education to say there are circumstances in which violence against civilians can be justified. In addition, Republicans and those who lean toward the GOP are more likely than Democrats to say such tactics are sometimes or often justifiable."
5. Terrorism and concerns about extremism

If you're trying to use the responses by Muslims in that poll to paint them as murderous, you're doing a terrible job. Ditto Democrats. If anything, the poll apparently shows that those who lean Republican are the most likely to be "peachy keen with the murder of those who disagree with 'em."

"Americans with a high school degree or less education are somewhat more likely than those with more education to say there are circumstances in which violence against civilians can be justified. In addition, Republicans and those who lean toward the GOP are more likely than Democrats to say such tactics are sometimes or often justifiable."


So good of you to have turned up just in time for a lesson.


1. More details are emerging about Humam al-Balawi, the man who blew up seven intelligence agents in Afghanistan. By education and professional status, the Jordanian doctor is typical of recent suicidal attackers. The man accused of trying to blow up a plane on Christmas Day is a Nigerian graduate of the University of London. In the Fort Hood shootings, a Palestinian-American psychiatrist in the U.S. Army has been charged.
Humam al-Balawi was said to be carrying information about Ayman al-Zawahiri, Osama bin Laden's number two, himself a surgeon who was born to a prominent Egyptian family.
Mohamed Atta of 9/11, who was an Egyptian urban planner who had been working in Germany - these are not the wretched of the earth. What essentially is the grievance that draws them to al-Qaida?
Groups Recruiting Well-Educated Terrorists : NPR

2. A recent study at Princeton University by Alan Krueger and Jitka Maleckova, called "Education, Poverty, Political Violence and Terrorism: Is There a Causal Connection?" argues this point. One piece of the Krueger-Maleckova evidence involves 129 members of Hezbollah who died in action, mostly against Israel, from 1982 to 1994. Hezbollah is now designated by the U.S. as a terrorist organization. Biographical information from the Hezbollah newspaper al-Ahd indicates that the fighters who died were, on average, more educated and less impoverished than the Lebanese population of comparable age and regional origin….Moreover, the Palestinians' adherence to the view that the mass murder of civilians was not terrorism was independent of education and higher among those working than unemployed. Hence, support for terrorism was not reduced by increases in education and income….a study by Charles Russell and Bowman Miller (reprinted in the 1983 book Perspectives on Terrorism) considered 18 revolutionary groups, including the Japanese Red Army, Germany's Baader-Meinhof Gang, and Italy's Red Brigades. The authors found that "the vast majority of those individuals involved in terrorist activities as cadres or leaders is quite well-educated. In fact, approximately two-thirds of those identified terrorists are persons with some university training, [and] well over two-thirds of these individuals came from the middle or upper classes in their respective nations or areas." BW Online | June 10, 2002 | The Myth That Poverty Breeds Terrorism
http://www.krueger.princeton.edu/terrorism2.pdf

3. …men who belonged to violent Islamist groups active over the past few decades (some in jail, some not). Had those groups reflected the working-age populations of their countries, engineers would have made up about 3.5 percent of the membership. Instead, nearly 20 percent of the militants had engineering degrees. When Gambetta and Hertog looked at only the militants whose education was known for certain to have gone beyond high school, close to half (44 percent) had trained in engineering.
Today's Highly Educated Terrorists | The National Interest Blog

Today's Highly Educated Terrorists

4. Pol Pot, was the leader of the Cambodian communist movement known as the Khmer Rouge[3] and was Prime Minister of Democratic Kampuchea from 1976–1979. Pol Pot's leadership, in which he attempted to "cleanse" the country, resulted in the deaths of an estimated 1.7–2.5 million people…. he qualified for a scholarship that allowed for technical study in France. He studied radio electronics at the EFR in Paris from 1949 to 1953 Pol Pot - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

5. Khmer Rouge leader Khieu Samphan, who had studied in Paris, wrote in his doctoral dissertation that the Cambodian economy and social structure would be renewed by tapping “the dormant energy of the peasant mass” against the cities. “Kissinger, “The White House Years,” p. 518.

6. Ernesto "Che" Guevara "the man was a mass killer. Hundreds were reportedly executed on his watch" Why Do people love a mass murder like Che? // Current

Ernesto Guevara de la Serna (1928-1967) was an Argentine physician... Learn About the Life of Che Guevara


As a young boy growing up, he had a passion for education, literature and philosophy. Mao Zedong
"he worked as a doctor. Che Guevara : Biography

7. Lenin was born Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov, April 22, 1870….In 1891 he passed the law examinations at the University of St. Petersburg as an external student, scoring first in his class. He practiced law briefly in Samara before devoting himself to the revolutionary movement. Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin), 1870-1924

8. Bashar al-Assad is the President of the Syrian Arab Republic, Regional Secretary of the Ba'ath Party, and the son of former President Hafez al-Assad. Al-Assad is a controversial figure both in Syria and Internationally… for his disregard for human rights, economic lapses, sponsorship of terrorism, and corruption. Bashar studied ophthalmology at Damascus University 1988 and arrived in London in 1992 to continue his studies. Bashar al-Assad - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



9. Mao was a rebellious teen-ager. His father wanted him to be a farmer; Mao wanted more education beyond the village grammar school. Mao left home at age 13 to attend an advanced school in a nearby district and in 1911 arrived in Changsha, the provincial capital, to attend secondary school…. He tried law enforcement, business and history before settling on education, graduating from a teachers' training school in 1918. He departed for Beijing to attend the university. CNN In-Depth Specials - Visions of China - Profiles: Mao Tse-tung



10.Al Qaeda leader Ayman al Zawahiri received his master's degree in surgery from Cairo University.... Ayman al Zawahiri


11. Nidal Hasan, Abdulmutallab and Humam al-Balawi are jihadists who were educated and came from privileged middle- and upper-class backgrounds. Hasan was an American-trained U. S. Army doctor, Abdulmutallab was a London engineering student and the son of a wealthy Nigerian banker, and double-agent Dr. Humam al-Balawi was a member of the Jordanian professional class. The Educated Muslim Terrorist


12. "One piece of the Krueger-Maleckova evidence involves 129 members of Hezbollah who died in action, mostly against Israel, from 1982 to 1994. Hezbollah is now designated by the U.S. as a terrorist organization. Biographical information from the Hezbollah newspaper al-Ahd indicates that the fighters who died were, on average, more educated and less impoverished than the Lebanese population of comparable age and regional origin." The Myth That Poverty Breeds Terrorism

and......" a study by Charles Russell and Bowman Miller (reprinted in the 1983 book Perspectives on Terrorism) considered 18 revolutionary groups, including the Japanese Red Army, Germany's Baader-Meinhof Gang, and Italy's Red Brigades. The authors found that "the vast majority of those individuals involved in terrorist activities as cadres or leaders is quite well-educated. In fact, approximately two-thirds of those identified terrorists are persons with some university training, [and] well over two-thirds of these individuals came from the middle or upper classes in their respective nations or areas."Ibid.


13. Fidel Castro was a talented student, and decided to pursue a career in law, entering the University of Havana Law School in 1945. After graduating law school, he opened a law office that primarily catered for poor Cubans, although it proved a financial failure.

Fidel Castro Biography - life, family, parents, story, history, school, mother, young, son, old, information, born


Highly educated Leftists, smart guys all....




Is it possible that you are soooooo ignorant as to not recognize the Q'ran as a manual of warfare?????


Are you that dumb????

As per usual, a giant pile of deflection. None of what you posted changes the fact that the poll you quoted as a way to make Muslims, and Democrats by association, look murderous, actually showed Muslims polling as less willing to kill for political, social, or religious reasons than the non-Muslim US public.

You seem to be arguing against your own link.

I'm not arguing for or against Islam, I'm not arguing that the Koran is a good book, I'm not even arguing that certain types of people are more likely to accept violence as a solution. I'm pointing out the cherry-picking you used.

1. I just disproved your link: it's not education, it's values.


2. If you'd care to read it, I'd be happy to provide a list of all 93 Islamist plots that developed during the 8 year abomination known as the Obama years.

3. "I'm not arguing for or against Islam, I'm not arguing that the Koran is a good book, I'm not even arguing that certain types of people are more likely to accept violence as a solution."

What you are arguing for is closing your eyes tightly and burying your head in the sand.
And doing a particularly poor job of it.

You disproved my link?

"My" link is YOUR link. I looked at the link from your OP, and followed a link within that page to a further explanation of the poll results.

What I am arguing, and have been arguing, is that you attempted to use a particular portion of a poll to make a point, but when taken in context, that poll result actually says something else entirely.

That's right.

I disproved your link, you moron.

This:
"Americans with a high school degree or less education blah blah blah....."

I showed that educational attainment has nothing.....nothing.....to do with the propensity for violence.



So, P.T. Barnum sent a congratulatory note when you were born?

Again, it's not my link, it's your own. The link from your OP. Go to that page, and there is a portion labelled "chapter 5," which goes into further detail on the poll results. I simply added a link to that portion of the article, but it comes from the link in your OP. You can feel free to disprove the link from your OP all you like.

 

[PoliticalChic]

"Americans with a high school degree or less education are somewhat more likely than those with more education to say there are circumstances in which violence against civilians can be justified. In addition, Republicans and those who lean toward the GOP are more likely than Democrats to say such tactics are sometimes or often justifiable."


So good of you to have turned up just in time for a lesson.


1. More details are emerging about Humam al-Balawi, the man who blew up seven intelligence agents in Afghanistan. By education and professional status, the Jordanian doctor is typical of recent suicidal attackers. The man accused of trying to blow up a plane on Christmas Day is a Nigerian graduate of the University of London. In the Fort Hood shootings, a Palestinian-American psychiatrist in the U.S. Army has been charged.
Humam al-Balawi was said to be carrying information about Ayman al-Zawahiri, Osama bin Laden's number two, himself a surgeon who was born to a prominent Egyptian family.
Mohamed Atta of 9/11, who was an Egyptian urban planner who had been working in Germany - these are not the wretched of the earth. What essentially is the grievance that draws them to al-Qaida?
Groups Recruiting Well-Educated Terrorists : NPR

2. A recent study at Princeton University by Alan Krueger and Jitka Maleckova, called "Education, Poverty, Political Violence and Terrorism: Is There a Causal Connection?" argues this point. One piece of the Krueger-Maleckova evidence involves 129 members of Hezbollah who died in action, mostly against Israel, from 1982 to 1994. Hezbollah is now designated by the U.S. as a terrorist organization. Biographical information from the Hezbollah newspaper al-Ahd indicates that the fighters who died were, on average, more educated and less impoverished than the Lebanese population of comparable age and regional origin….Moreover, the Palestinians' adherence to the view that the mass murder of civilians was not terrorism was independent of education and higher among those working than unemployed. Hence, support for terrorism was not reduced by increases in education and income….a study by Charles Russell and Bowman Miller (reprinted in the 1983 book Perspectives on Terrorism) considered 18 revolutionary groups, including the Japanese Red Army, Germany's Baader-Meinhof Gang, and Italy's Red Brigades. The authors found that "the vast majority of those individuals involved in terrorist activities as cadres or leaders is quite well-educated. In fact, approximately two-thirds of those identified terrorists are persons with some university training, [and] well over two-thirds of these individuals came from the middle or upper classes in their respective nations or areas." BW Online | June 10, 2002 | The Myth That Poverty Breeds Terrorism
http://www.krueger.princeton.edu/terrorism2.pdf

3. …men who belonged to violent Islamist groups active over the past few decades (some in jail, some not). Had those groups reflected the working-age populations of their countries, engineers would have made up about 3.5 percent of the membership. Instead, nearly 20 percent of the militants had engineering degrees. When Gambetta and Hertog looked at only the militants whose education was known for certain to have gone beyond high school, close to half (44 percent) had trained in engineering.
Today's Highly Educated Terrorists | The National Interest Blog

Today's Highly Educated Terrorists

4. Pol Pot, was the leader of the Cambodian communist movement known as the Khmer Rouge[3] and was Prime Minister of Democratic Kampuchea from 1976–1979. Pol Pot's leadership, in which he attempted to "cleanse" the country, resulted in the deaths of an estimated 1.7–2.5 million people…. he qualified for a scholarship that allowed for technical study in France. He studied radio electronics at the EFR in Paris from 1949 to 1953 Pol Pot - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

5. Khmer Rouge leader Khieu Samphan, who had studied in Paris, wrote in his doctoral dissertation that the Cambodian economy and social structure would be renewed by tapping “the dormant energy of the peasant mass” against the cities. “Kissinger, “The White House Years,” p. 518.

6. Ernesto "Che" Guevara "the man was a mass killer. Hundreds were reportedly executed on his watch" Why Do people love a mass murder like Che? // Current

Ernesto Guevara de la Serna (1928-1967) was an Argentine physician... Learn About the Life of Che Guevara


As a young boy growing up, he had a passion for education, literature and philosophy. Mao Zedong
"he worked as a doctor. Che Guevara : Biography

7. Lenin was born Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov, April 22, 1870….In 1891 he passed the law examinations at the University of St. Petersburg as an external student, scoring first in his class. He practiced law briefly in Samara before devoting himself to the revolutionary movement. Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin), 1870-1924

8. Bashar al-Assad is the President of the Syrian Arab Republic, Regional Secretary of the Ba'ath Party, and the son of former President Hafez al-Assad. Al-Assad is a controversial figure both in Syria and Internationally… for his disregard for human rights, economic lapses, sponsorship of terrorism, and corruption. Bashar studied ophthalmology at Damascus University 1988 and arrived in London in 1992 to continue his studies. Bashar al-Assad - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



9. Mao was a rebellious teen-ager. His father wanted him to be a farmer; Mao wanted more education beyond the village grammar school. Mao left home at age 13 to attend an advanced school in a nearby district and in 1911 arrived in Changsha, the provincial capital, to attend secondary school…. He tried law enforcement, business and history before settling on education, graduating from a teachers' training school in 1918. He departed for Beijing to attend the university. CNN In-Depth Specials - Visions of China - Profiles: Mao Tse-tung



10.Al Qaeda leader Ayman al Zawahiri received his master's degree in surgery from Cairo University.... Ayman al Zawahiri


11. Nidal Hasan, Abdulmutallab and Humam al-Balawi are jihadists who were educated and came from privileged middle- and upper-class backgrounds. Hasan was an American-trained U. S. Army doctor, Abdulmutallab was a London engineering student and the son of a wealthy Nigerian banker, and double-agent Dr. Humam al-Balawi was a member of the Jordanian professional class. The Educated Muslim Terrorist


12. "One piece of the Krueger-Maleckova evidence involves 129 members of Hezbollah who died in action, mostly against Israel, from 1982 to 1994. Hezbollah is now designated by the U.S. as a terrorist organization. Biographical information from the Hezbollah newspaper al-Ahd indicates that the fighters who died were, on average, more educated and less impoverished than the Lebanese population of comparable age and regional origin." The Myth That Poverty Breeds Terrorism

and......" a study by Charles Russell and Bowman Miller (reprinted in the 1983 book Perspectives on Terrorism) considered 18 revolutionary groups, including the Japanese Red Army, Germany's Baader-Meinhof Gang, and Italy's Red Brigades. The authors found that "the vast majority of those individuals involved in terrorist activities as cadres or leaders is quite well-educated. In fact, approximately two-thirds of those identified terrorists are persons with some university training, [and] well over two-thirds of these individuals came from the middle or upper classes in their respective nations or areas."Ibid.


13. Fidel Castro was a talented student, and decided to pursue a career in law, entering the University of Havana Law School in 1945. After graduating law school, he opened a law office that primarily catered for poor Cubans, although it proved a financial failure.

Fidel Castro Biography - life, family, parents, story, history, school, mother, young, son, old, information, born


Highly educated Leftists, smart guys all....




Is it possible that you are soooooo ignorant as to not recognize the Q'ran as a manual of warfare?????


Are you that dumb????

As per usual, a giant pile of deflection. None of what you posted changes the fact that the poll you quoted as a way to make Muslims, and Democrats by association, look murderous, actually showed Muslims polling as less willing to kill for political, social, or religious reasons than the non-Muslim US public.

You seem to be arguing against your own link.

I'm not arguing for or against Islam, I'm not arguing that the Koran is a good book, I'm not even arguing that certain types of people are more likely to accept violence as a solution. I'm pointing out the cherry-picking you used.

1. I just disproved your link: it's not education, it's values.


2. If you'd care to read it, I'd be happy to provide a list of all 93 Islamist plots that developed during the 8 year abomination known as the Obama years.

3. "I'm not arguing for or against Islam, I'm not arguing that the Koran is a good book, I'm not even arguing that certain types of people are more likely to accept violence as a solution."

What you are arguing for is closing your eyes tightly and burying your head in the sand.
And doing a particularly poor job of it.

You disproved my link?

"My" link is YOUR link. I looked at the link from your OP, and followed a link within that page to a further explanation of the poll results.

What I am arguing, and have been arguing, is that you attempted to use a particular portion of a poll to make a point, but when taken in context, that poll result actually says something else entirely.

That's right.

I disproved your link, you moron.

This:
"Americans with a high school degree or less education blah blah blah....."

I showed that educational attainment has nothing.....nothing.....to do with the propensity for violence.



So, P.T. Barnum sent a congratulatory note when you were born?

Again, it's not my link, it's your own. The link from your OP. Go to that page, and there is a portion labelled "chapter 5," which goes into further detail on the poll results. I simply added a link to that portion of the article, but it comes from the link in your OP. You can feel free to disprove the link from your OP all you like.

It's your quote that I eviscerated.

It is values that determine behavior.

Your inept attempt to score points has been as eggs attacking stones.

 

[Montrovant]

As per usual, a giant pile of deflection. None of what you posted changes the fact that the poll you quoted as a way to make Muslims, and Democrats by association, look murderous, actually showed Muslims polling as less willing to kill for political, social, or religious reasons than the non-Muslim US public.

You seem to be arguing against your own link.

I'm not arguing for or against Islam, I'm not arguing that the Koran is a good book, I'm not even arguing that certain types of people are more likely to accept violence as a solution. I'm pointing out the cherry-picking you used.

1. I just disproved your link: it's not education, it's values.


2. If you'd care to read it, I'd be happy to provide a list of all 93 Islamist plots that developed during the 8 year abomination known as the Obama years.

3. "I'm not arguing for or against Islam, I'm not arguing that the Koran is a good book, I'm not even arguing that certain types of people are more likely to accept violence as a solution."

What you are arguing for is closing your eyes tightly and burying your head in the sand.
And doing a particularly poor job of it.

You disproved my link?

"My" link is YOUR link. I looked at the link from your OP, and followed a link within that page to a further explanation of the poll results.

What I am arguing, and have been arguing, is that you attempted to use a particular portion of a poll to make a point, but when taken in context, that poll result actually says something else entirely.

That's right.

I disproved your link, you moron.

This:
"Americans with a high school degree or less education blah blah blah....."

I showed that educational attainment has nothing.....nothing.....to do with the propensity for violence.



So, P.T. Barnum sent a congratulatory note when you were born?

Again, it's not my link, it's your own. The link from your OP. Go to that page, and there is a portion labelled "chapter 5," which goes into further detail on the poll results. I simply added a link to that portion of the article, but it comes from the link in your OP. You can feel free to disprove the link from your OP all you like.

It's your quote that I eviscerated.

It is values that determine behavior.

Your inept attempt to score points has been as eggs attacking stones.

And, once again, the quote is from your own link in the OP. So you eviscerated your own source. Good job.

 

[PoliticalChic]

1. I just disproved your link: it's not education, it's values.


2. If you'd care to read it, I'd be happy to provide a list of all 93 Islamist plots that developed during the 8 year abomination known as the Obama years.

3. "I'm not arguing for or against Islam, I'm not arguing that the Koran is a good book, I'm not even arguing that certain types of people are more likely to accept violence as a solution."

What you are arguing for is closing your eyes tightly and burying your head in the sand.
And doing a particularly poor job of it.

You disproved my link?

"My" link is YOUR link. I looked at the link from your OP, and followed a link within that page to a further explanation of the poll results.

What I am arguing, and have been arguing, is that you attempted to use a particular portion of a poll to make a point, but when taken in context, that poll result actually says something else entirely.

That's right.

I disproved your link, you moron.

This:
"Americans with a high school degree or less education blah blah blah....."

I showed that educational attainment has nothing.....nothing.....to do with the propensity for violence.



So, P.T. Barnum sent a congratulatory note when you were born?

Again, it's not my link, it's your own. The link from your OP. Go to that page, and there is a portion labelled "chapter 5," which goes into further detail on the poll results. I simply added a link to that portion of the article, but it comes from the link in your OP. You can feel free to disprove the link from your OP all you like.

It's your quote that I eviscerated.

It is values that determine behavior.

Your inept attempt to score points has been as eggs attacking stones.

And, once again, the quote is from your own link in the OP. So you eviscerated your own source. Good job.

And, once again, you chose it as dispositive....and I destroyed it.

 

[deanrd]

How would you react if a poll of conservatives found that over 9 million of 'em were perfectly fine with killing......slaughtering......any who didn't agree with conservative viewpoints????
Have you ever heard such killings voiced or approved by conservatives?

Hmmm, gee, let me think:



Wow. Let him die?

Senate GOP Health Proposal Would Leave 22 Million Uninsured

And they can die to?

I thought the hundreds of young soldiers Reagan sent off to die for no apparent reason and how little it was investigated.
Then the thousands that died in the WTC and the insane invasion of Iraq and then tens of thousand dead and injured.
And the thousands ignored after Katrina.
And Flint.
And the fight to abolish the EPA.
And..........

Well.........

You get the picture.

Republicans don't give a flying f*ck about the American people. Their wicked and dangerous policies tell the story. The entire story.

 

[deanrd]

Whites riot for fun. After games. Schools out.

Remember Katrina? Whites are survivors, blacks are looters. That's the kind of mentality from the racist right. Whites riot over games. Blacks riot because police just shot dead a young father in a toy store looking for a birthday present.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

How would you react if a poll of conservatives found that over 9 million of 'em were perfectly fine with killing......slaughtering......any who didn't agree with conservative viewpoints????
Have you ever heard such killings voiced or approved by conservatives?

Hmmm, gee, let me think:



Wow. Let him die?

Senate GOP Health Proposal Would Leave 22 Million Uninsured

And they can die to?

I thought the hundreds of young soldiers Reagan sent off to die for no apparent reason and how little it was investigated.
Then the thousands that died in the WTC and the insane invasion of Iraq and then tens of thousand dead and injured.
And the thousands ignored after Katrina.
And Flint.
And the fight to abolish the EPA.
And..........

Well.........

You get the picture.

Republicans don't give a flying f*ck about the American people. Their wicked and dangerous policies tell the story. The entire story.

How many people were forced into buying the unaffordable care act that didn't want it in the first place? 22 million? Sounds about right...

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Whites riot for fun. After games. Schools out.

Remember Katrina? Whites are survivors, blacks are looters. That's the kind of mentality from the racist right. Whites riot over games. Blacks riot because police just shot dead a young father in a toy store looking for a birthday present.

Whites are survivors, blacks are looters. That's the kind of mentality from the racist right. Whites riot over games. Blacks riot because police just shot dead a young father in a toy store looking for a birthday present.

Why is it that liberals are the racists in America? Conservatives see people in distress, not by the color of their skin, but by their problem after Katrina, where the funding for the levees were diverted away from the Army Corp so more FREE stuff would go to the poverty stricken of the city. So , with liberal compassion comes disaster as always happens.

Katrina: Louisiana Federal Money Not Spent On Levees

 

[PoliticalChic]

How would you react if a poll of conservatives found that over 9 million of 'em were perfectly fine with killing......slaughtering......any who didn't agree with conservative viewpoints????
Have you ever heard such killings voiced or approved by conservatives?

Hmmm, gee, let me think:



Wow. Let him die?

Senate GOP Health Proposal Would Leave 22 Million Uninsured

And they can die to?

I thought the hundreds of young soldiers Reagan sent off to die for no apparent reason and how little it was investigated.
Then the thousands that died in the WTC and the insane invasion of Iraq and then tens of thousand dead and injured.
And the thousands ignored after Katrina.
And Flint.
And the fight to abolish the EPA.
And..........

Well.........

You get the picture.

Republicans don't give a flying f*ck about the American people. Their wicked and dangerous policies tell the story. The entire story.

There is nothing in that video that reflect any.....any.....desire to slaughter random, innocent individuals based on a difference of opinion.

QED, you're an imbecile.