Planned Parenthood caught trafficking in human body parts

[koshergrl]

Asc, I don't know what proof you need. It's like wanting me to prove what Abraham Lincoln said. I wasn't there. But excerpts of her many many speeches, by people that were there, all say the same thing. She wasn't shy about her position. Research the despot, and you'll see for yourself.

The evidence is overwhelming. There are photos of her giving speeches to the KKK

Provide it then.

All you will do is claim it's a photoshop. Google Sanger, KKK, speech it will pop up

Yeah, easy prediction for the lying scum to make because it WAS PHOTOSHOPPED!

Wow you sound hysterical.

 

[bodecea]

Planned Parenthood Executive Caught on Camera Bragging About Harvesting and Selling Fetal Organs

Sickening mental head cases in this country.

Riiiight. Believing this.

 

[koshergrl]

Fly that Nazi baby killing flag high, bode!

 

[amrchaos]

Ok. Here is newsweek.

http://www.newsweek.com/after-video...nthood-selling-body-parts-bobby-jindal-353828

Ok, now we have something that's not a wingnut source.

Interesting tidbits:

The center's leader, David Daleiden, has written anti-abortion literature for The Weekly Standard and is referenced on the pro-life website of Jill Stanek. Files uploaded by Daleiden to Scribd include "Prayers for the day," which Daleiden describes as "one way to structure your prayer life throughout the day that some people may find helpful."

So they're reporting on something put forth by a wingnut. Ok...

Tissue donation is different than the harvesting of human organs for sale, though some do consider the two equally controversial, as in the case of Daleiden's organization. In the video, which has been edited, Nucatola discusses body parts and tissue as they are needed for research. "We’ve been very good at getting heart, lung, liver, because we know that, so I’m not gonna crush that part, I’m gonna basically crush below, I’m gonna crush above, and I’m gonna see if I can get it all intact," she is heard saying, though due to editing, the context is not entirely clear.

This sounds horrible in its flippancy, can't deny that. Illegal, though...?

At no point in the video does Nucatola say Planned Parenthood actually sells body parts, fetal or otherwise, though the center has claimed Planned Parenthood is involved in the "illegal trafficking of aborted fetal parts." Similarly, she does not admit to selling tissue, either personally or through the organization.

Planned Parenthood has rejected Daleiden's claims and video. Eric Ferrero, the organization's vice president of communications, offered this statement:

In health care, patients sometimes want to donate tissue to scientific research that can help lead to medical breakthroughs, such as treatments and cures for serious diseases. Women at Planned Parenthood who have abortions are no different. At several of our health centers, we help patients who want to donate tissue for scientific research, and we do this just like every other high-quality health care provider does -- with full, appropriate consent from patients and under the highest ethical and legal standards. There is no financial benefit for tissue donation for either the patient or for Planned Parenthood. In some instances, actual costs, such as the cost to transport tissue to leading research centers, are reimbursed, which is standard across the medical field.

A well funded group established for the purpose of damaging Planned Parenthood’s mission and services has promoted a heavily edited, secretly recorded videotape that falsely portrays Planned Parenthood’s participation in tissue donation programs that support lifesaving scientific research. Similar false accusations have been put forth by opponents of abortion services for decades. These groups have been widely discredited and their claims fall apart on closer examination, just as they do in this case.

So PP has no problem giving a response, but...

Daleiden didn't respond to Newsweek's request for comment.

Basically Jindall is grandstanding. This will go away after the election if not sooner. Mark my words.

I'm thinking he may have staged this.

He was unusually fast on the draw, if you ask me--!

 

[koshergrl]

Ok. Here is newsweek.

http://www.newsweek.com/after-video...nthood-selling-body-parts-bobby-jindal-353828

Ok, now we have something that's not a wingnut source.

Interesting tidbits:

The center's leader, David Daleiden, has written anti-abortion literature for The Weekly Standard and is referenced on the pro-life website of Jill Stanek. Files uploaded by Daleiden to Scribd include "Prayers for the day," which Daleiden describes as "one way to structure your prayer life throughout the day that some people may find helpful."

So they're reporting on something put forth by a wingnut. Ok...

Tissue donation is different than the harvesting of human organs for sale, though some do consider the two equally controversial, as in the case of Daleiden's organization. In the video, which has been edited, Nucatola discusses body parts and tissue as they are needed for research. "We’ve been very good at getting heart, lung, liver, because we know that, so I’m not gonna crush that part, I’m gonna basically crush below, I’m gonna crush above, and I’m gonna see if I can get it all intact," she is heard saying, though due to editing, the context is not entirely clear.

This sounds horrible in its flippancy, can't deny that. Illegal, though...?

At no point in the video does Nucatola say Planned Parenthood actually sells body parts, fetal or otherwise, though the center has claimed Planned Parenthood is involved in the "illegal trafficking of aborted fetal parts." Similarly, she does not admit to selling tissue, either personally or through the organization.

Planned Parenthood has rejected Daleiden's claims and video. Eric Ferrero, the organization's vice president of communications, offered this statement:

In health care, patients sometimes want to donate tissue to scientific research that can help lead to medical breakthroughs, such as treatments and cures for serious diseases. Women at Planned Parenthood who have abortions are no different. At several of our health centers, we help patients who want to donate tissue for scientific research, and we do this just like every other high-quality health care provider does -- with full, appropriate consent from patients and under the highest ethical and legal standards. There is no financial benefit for tissue donation for either the patient or for Planned Parenthood. In some instances, actual costs, such as the cost to transport tissue to leading research centers, are reimbursed, which is standard across the medical field.

A well funded group established for the purpose of damaging Planned Parenthood’s mission and services has promoted a heavily edited, secretly recorded videotape that falsely portrays Planned Parenthood’s participation in tissue donation programs that support lifesaving scientific research. Similar false accusations have been put forth by opponents of abortion services for decades. These groups have been widely discredited and their claims fall apart on closer examination, just as they do in this case.

So PP has no problem giving a response, but...

Daleiden didn't respond to Newsweek's request for comment.

Basically Jindall is grandstanding. This will go away after the election if not sooner. Mark my words.

I'm thinking he may have staged this.

He was unusually fast on the draw, if you ask me--!

How many weird pro-baby killing lies can you tell in one day?

You started out pretending the video was from 2000.

Then you pretended it was heavily edited.

Now you're pretending it's a conspiracy?

What a wacko. Of all the things to lie through your teeth to support...

 

[edthecynic]

When I saw the title of this thread I knew that some worthless scum sucking piece of lying CON$ervoFascist shit would post this photoshopped picture.

Here is the original:

 

[edthecynic]

dimocraps are lying scum.....

Sanger was a stone-cold racist.
Period

Another worthless piece of lying scum CON$ervative shit posting the photoshopped pix.

 

[Preacher]

Planned Parenthood Executive Caught on Camera Bragging About Harvesting and Selling Fetal Organs

Sickening mental head cases in this country.

Riiiight. Believing this.

Planned Parenthood Responds to Undercover Video

They are denying it of course....but evidence doesn't lie.

 

[hazlnut]

Planned Parenthood Executive Caught on Camera Bragging About Harvesting and Selling Fetal Organs

Sickening mental head cases in this country.

Your signature tells us everything we need to know about you.

Just another piece of dog shit from Stormfront.

 

[edthecynic]

Asc, I don't know what proof you need. It's like wanting me to prove what Abraham Lincoln said. I wasn't there. But excerpts of her many many speeches, by people that were there, all say the same thing. She wasn't shy about her position. Research the despot, and you'll see for yourself.

The evidence is overwhelming. There are photos of her giving speeches to the KKK

Provide it then.

All you will do is claim it's a photoshop. Google Sanger, KKK, speech it will pop up

Yeah, easy prediction for the lying scum to make because it WAS PHOTOSHOPPED!

Wow you sound hysterical.

The truth always sounds hysterical to worthless lying scum!

 

[hazlnut]

The video is highly edited to mislead the religious nuts.

 

[paperview]

Ok. Here is newsweek.

http://www.newsweek.com/after-video...nthood-selling-body-parts-bobby-jindal-353828

Ok, now we have something that's not a wingnut source.

Interesting tidbits:

The center's leader, David Daleiden, has written anti-abortion literature for The Weekly Standard and is referenced on the pro-life website of Jill Stanek. Files uploaded by Daleiden to Scribd include "Prayers for the day," which Daleiden describes as "one way to structure your prayer life throughout the day that some people may find helpful."

So they're reporting on something put forth by a wingnut. Ok...

Tissue donation is different than the harvesting of human organs for sale, though some do consider the two equally controversial, as in the case of Daleiden's organization. In the video, which has been edited, Nucatola discusses body parts and tissue as they are needed for research. "We’ve been very good at getting heart, lung, liver, because we know that, so I’m not gonna crush that part, I’m gonna basically crush below, I’m gonna crush above, and I’m gonna see if I can get it all intact," she is heard saying, though due to editing, the context is not entirely clear.

This sounds horrible in its flippancy, can't deny that. Illegal, though...?

At no point in the video does Nucatola say Planned Parenthood actually sells body parts, fetal or otherwise, though the center has claimed Planned Parenthood is involved in the "illegal trafficking of aborted fetal parts." Similarly, she does not admit to selling tissue, either personally or through the organization.

Planned Parenthood has rejected Daleiden's claims and video. Eric Ferrero, the organization's vice president of communications, offered this statement:

In health care, patients sometimes want to donate tissue to scientific research that can help lead to medical breakthroughs, such as treatments and cures for serious diseases. Women at Planned Parenthood who have abortions are no different. At several of our health centers, we help patients who want to donate tissue for scientific research, and we do this just like every other high-quality health care provider does -- with full, appropriate consent from patients and under the highest ethical and legal standards. There is no financial benefit for tissue donation for either the patient or for Planned Parenthood. In some instances, actual costs, such as the cost to transport tissue to leading research centers, are reimbursed, which is standard across the medical field.

A well funded group established for the purpose of damaging Planned Parenthood’s mission and services has promoted a heavily edited, secretly recorded videotape that falsely portrays Planned Parenthood’s participation in tissue donation programs that support lifesaving scientific research. Similar false accusations have been put forth by opponents of abortion services for decades. These groups have been widely discredited and their claims fall apart on closer examination, just as they do in this case.

So PP has no problem giving a response, but...

Daleiden didn't respond to Newsweek's request for comment.

The minute I saw this video, I thougth, man, this has a James O'Keefe smell to it.

And sure enough. There he was.

The guy behind it

is this guy:

David Daleiden

The new organization "Center for Medical Progress" he runs has been up for just a few months.

and tada:
James O’Keefe is a friend of David Daleiden’s.

He's also affiliated with the fanatics: Operation Rescue

Baby Parts for Sale snopes.com

 

[Asclepias]

PP already makes millions each year performing abortions. They also get millions in tax dollars, which is odd considering they are a business that sees a profit.

In the past, we've seen video proof of them helping prostitution 'businesses' and it's been proven that they don't offer the services that the left claims. They do abortions. If you need other care, they refer you elsewhere.

Now it looks like they are illegally selling body parts from aborted fetuses. Not surprising. They like making money and they've been given a pass on past deceitful and illegal practices.

If this were a conservative organization, the DOJ and IRS would be all over them. They would have been investigated and shut down years ago. Instead, they slide by because they support the left's agenda. As Margaret Sanger put it when she started it, the goal of PP is to exterminate the negro population. I don't see any change today considering that millions of minority babies are aborted each year.

Another tape showing the nefarious goals of Planned Parenthood.

Planned Parenthood Caught Trying To Sell Aborted Baby Body Parts

Do you have a credible link of Sanger stating the goal of PP was to exterminate Blacks?

She was a eugenicist so here are what they were talking about interspersed with some of her views on it. The interesting part is at around 1:20.

Everything in that video I already know about but thanks.

 

[The Irish Ram]

Well, that settles it then Virginia, if snopes said it it must be true. Just like factcheck.soros.........

 

[koshergrl]

When I saw the title of this thread I knew that some worthless scum sucking piece of lying CON$ervoFascist shit would post this photoshopped picture.

Here is the original:

Hahahahahahahahahahaha that's funnier than shit

 

[FA_Q2]

It is interesting to me that the sale of fetal tissue is somehow utterly revolting (and most seem to agree on that point) yet tearing it apart and killing it are totally acceptable to half the posters here?

That is pretty damn backwards - the act of killing the unborn child is far worse than actually using what is left over for something useful.

 

[FA_Q2]

When I saw the title of this thread I knew that some worthless scum sucking piece of lying CON$ervoFascist shit would post this photoshopped picture.

Here is the original:

Are you just upset about the picture or do you challenge the entire idea that she spoke at KKK rallies?

 

[The Irish Ram]

I don't care if they wore their uniforms to the meeting or not. The message she presented to the KKK was so well received, that she bragged about it. I don't care what someone did to a photo. Her message was received loud and clear. Now what could she have been proposing that would cause the KKK and others of that ilk to respond to her so well???

The Truth About Margaret Sanger
"I accepted an invitation to talk to the women's branch of the Ku Klux Klan...I saw through the door dim figures parading with banners and illuminated crosses...I was escorted to the platform, was introduced, and began to speak...In the end, through simple illustrations I believed I had accomplished my purpose. A dozen invitations to speak to similar groups were proffered." (Margaret Sanger: An Autobiography, P.366)

Did someone Photoshop her autobiography? I think you are missing her point if you think she was a friend to the black community.

 

[Coyote]

Here is a sample of her quotes:
Copyright © 2001 Diane S. Dew www.dianedew.com

Margaret Sanger (1883-1966)
On blacks, immigrants and indigents:
"...human weeds,' 'reckless breeders,' 'spawning... human beings who never should have been born." Margaret Sanger, Pivot of Civilization, referring to immigrants and poor people
On sterilization & racial purification:
Sanger believed that, for the purpose of racial "purification," couples should be rewarded who chose sterilization. Birth Control in America, The Career of Margaret Sanger, by David Kennedy, p. 117, quoting a 1923 Sanger speech.
On the right of married couples to bear children:
Couples should be required to submit applications to have a child, she wrote in her "Plan for Peace." Birth Control Review, April 1932
On the purpose of birth control:
The purpose in promoting birth control was "to create a race of thoroughbreds," she wrote in the Birth Control Review, Nov. 1921 (p. 2)
On the rights of the handicapped and mentally ill, and racial minorities:
"More children from the fit, less from the unfit -- that is the chief aim of birth control." Birth Control Review, May 1919, p. 12

On religious convictions regarding sex outside of marriage:
"This book aims to answer the needs expressed in thousands on thousands of letters to me in

the solution of marriage problems... Knowledge of sex truths frankly and plainly presented cannot possibly injure healthy, normal, young minds. Concealment, suppression, futile attempts to veil the unveilable - these work injury, as they seldom succeed and only render those who indulge in them ridiculous. For myself, I have full confidence in the cleanliness, the open-mindedness, the promise of the younger generation." Margaret Sanger, Happiness in Marriage (Bretano's, New York, 1927)

On the extermination of blacks:
"We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population," she said, "if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.."

It amazes me the lack of knowledge democrats,liberals and progressives have on Sanger. She was an evil, evil woman

Ya. So evil she liberated women from the slavery of perpetual pregnancy.

Wow, that must be one hell of an acid flashback....

Perpetual pregnancy and slavery....all rolled into one fantasy...

Go ahead and laugh.

Sanger lived in an era where married women had no choice but to consent to sex - that was part of marriage. Sex led to children. Poor women often had more children then they could support - continuing the cycle of poverty. Other means of birth control were highly unreliable not to mention that birth control was not really legal. Repeated pregnancies take a toll on a woman's body - with some pretty serious health effects like vaginal fistulas. Those effects are largely gone from a country like the U.S. with modern medicine, good preventive care and the ability of a family - wife AND husband - to limit the number of children they might choose to have. So ya, Sanger sure was evil wasn't she - the audacity of allowing woman to control how many pregnancies they wanted.

 

[The Irish Ram]

lol, you little thoroughbred you.........
She was a saint. Looking after the blacks and the klan and all.