Please explain why you Republicans support the wealthy over your own middle class?

So much for the "rising tide raises all boats" theory then. The only thing that gets raised is THEIR boats. Everyone elses' rises on their whims. That's why "trickle down" doesn't work. Trickling is optional and the wealthy don't become wealthy because of a sense of community... they become wealthy because they are driven to amass wealth. So... stepping on the heads of workers is a small price to pay in their path to their success.

Let me tell you something... without the "little people" that they keep fucking over, they wouldn't have a pot to piss in. No one amasses wealth without the help of:

A: their workers
B: their customers.

You keep minimizing labor in this country, no one will be able to afford to buy the shit they make. They will be too busy just trying to survive on the shitty wages that they earn.

I guess that's the "Conservative Vision" of America.

Well yes, we are in grave danger of under-consumption in this nation.

As usual, you of the left have it all figured out.
 
So you are claiming that the federal government maintained the roads and bridges of America going back to the American revolution? Is that your claim?

Standard Disclaimer: I love leftists, they make up the most amazing "facts."

No, but I will tell you that a Republican (Eisenhower) DID provide for building the road system that we currently enjoy today.....

Federal Aid Highway Act of 1956 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And he did so to provide for the common defense. Otherwise he would not have seen that as the prerogative of the Federal government. The interstate highway system provides a means to effectively move troops and large equipment around the country as needed in cases of national emergency. It even requires that a mile stretch of straight highway be built into the system every five miles. These straight stretches are specifically designed that way to provide thousands of landing strips for military aircraft.

And on the domestic level, the interstate highway system in one way or another benefits every man, woman, and child in America without regard to political leanings, race, socioeconomic standing or any other criteria. It truly does promote the Constitutional GENERAL welfare rather than target special interests.

Yep... and it put many people to work. Hoover Dam provides electricity to many people, put many people to work. The Intercontinental Railroad did much the same thing... ALL of those and many more were public works project funded by taxpayer dollars.

Yet now our infrastructure is crumbling. Our Bridges, our roads, our water systems, our electrical grid...all are on the verge of failure. But Conservatives don't give a shit. All because it's OBAMA that wants to fix it.
 
So much for the "rising tide raises all boats" theory then. The only thing that gets raised is THEIR boats. Everyone elses' rises on their whims. That's why "trickle down" doesn't work. Trickling is optional and the wealthy don't become wealthy because of a sense of community... they become wealthy because they are driven to amass wealth. So... stepping on the heads of workers is a small price to pay in their path to their success.

Let me tell you something... without the "little people" that they keep fucking over, they wouldn't have a pot to piss in. No one amasses wealth without the help of:

A: their workers
B: their customers.

You keep minimizing labor in this country, no one will be able to afford to buy the shit they make. They will be too busy just trying to survive on the shitty wages that they earn.

I guess that's the "Conservative Vision" of America.

Well yes, we are in grave danger of under-consumption in this nation.

As usual, you of the left have it all figured out.

yeah... Let's see what happens when the "easy credit" goes away.
 
Uncensored, you're leaving a sentence off at the end of the Smith quote.

Also, we have a problem of demand, so your snark is, once again, misguided.

Foxfyre, the founders advocated government support of both industry and education.

If they didn't want a federal government, they wouldn't have created one.

Ike knew that the interstate highway system would also help commerce.

And we do not live in 18th Century America. We live in 21st Century America. Get your heads into the present.
 
Uncensored, you're leaving a sentence off at the end of the Smith quote.

Also, we have a problem of demand, so your snark is, once again, misguided.

Foxfyre, the founders advocated government support of both industry and education.

If they didn't want a federal government, they wouldn't have created one.

Ike knew that the interstate highway system would also help commerce.

And we do not live in 18th Century America. We live in 21st Century America. Get your heads into the present.
 
Because they think Republicans in congress are actually going to do something that will benefit someone other than the wealthiest Americans..

Yeah right..
 
Uncensored, you're leaving a sentence off at the end of the Smith quote.

Yawn, we've been through this before. Support your claim by posting the quote in the way you think it supports your false claim.

You came up with your crap from Marxist.org, and most of us have been treated to it before. It is a lie, it always was. Smith promoted a flat tax.

Also, we have a problem of demand, so your snark is, once again, misguided.

You have a problem of lack of understanding of basic economics.

I suggest you do a search on Says Law.

You cannot buy what is not there.

Foxfyre, the founders advocated government support of both industry and education.

If they didn't want a federal government, they wouldn't have created one.

Ike knew that the interstate highway system would also help commerce.

And we do not live in 18th Century America. We live in 21st Century America. Get your heads into the present.

Balderdash.
 
Please explain why you Republicans support the wealthy over your own middle class?

Republicans support equality. That means, treat everyone the same.
 
Uncensored, you're leaving a sentence off at the end of the Smith quote.

Yawn, we've been through this before. Support your claim by posting the quote in the way you think it supports your false claim.

You came up with your crap from Marxist.org, and most of us have been treated to it before. It is a lie, it always was. Smith promoted a flat tax.

My quote is from Smith. This is what he wrote:

The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. A tax upon house-rents, therefore, would in general fall heaviest upon the rich; and in this sort of inequality there would not, perhaps, be anything very unreasonable. It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.

Also, we have a problem of demand, so your snark is, once again, misguided.

You have a problem of lack of understanding of basic economics.

I suggest you do a search on Says Law.

You cannot buy what is not there.

So you're under the impression that we have adequate demand right now in the US?

Foxfyre, the founders advocated government support of both industry and education.

If they didn't want a federal government, they wouldn't have created one.

Ike knew that the interstate highway system would also help commerce.

And we do not live in 18th Century America. We live in 21st Century America. Get your heads into the present.

Balderdash.

Truth. May your head explode.
 
American Government has always built roads and bridges(even during and right after the Revolutionary War). Anyone who tries to allude otherwise is a rightwing propagandist.

The federal government has not always built the roads and bridges. Anyone who tries to blur together all mention of government into the same thing is a braindead leftist loser.
 
No, but I will tell you that a Republican (Eisenhower) DID provide for building the road system that we currently enjoy today.....

Federal Aid Highway Act of 1956 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And he did so to provide for the common defense. Otherwise he would not have seen that as the prerogative of the Federal government. The interstate highway system provides a means to effectively move troops and large equipment around the country as needed in cases of national emergency. It even requires that a mile stretch of straight highway be built into the system every five miles. These straight stretches are specifically designed that way to provide thousands of landing strips for military aircraft.

And on the domestic level, the interstate highway system in one way or another benefits every man, woman, and child in America without regard to political leanings, race, socioeconomic standing or any other criteria. It truly does promote the Constitutional GENERAL welfare rather than target special interests.

Yep... and it put many people to work. Hoover Dam provides electricity to many people, put many people to work. The Intercontinental Railroad did much the same thing... ALL of those and many more were public works project funded by taxpayer dollars.

Yet now our infrastructure is crumbling. Our Bridges, our roads, our water systems, our electrical grid...all are on the verge of failure. But Conservatives don't give a shit. All because it's OBAMA that wants to fix it.

No, because it's Obama and his Obamettes talking about it, we know that no matter how much fucking money we give you - on top of all the money we ALREADY gave you for these VERY SAME EXCUSES - nothing is going to get done about it. We know that the left's eternal whining mantra of "infrastructure, roads, water, electric" is nothing but a lie to swindle money to then turn around and pass out to Obama's buddies and campaign contributors.

In short, it's not that we don't care about these things. It's that we know YOU don't really give a good goddamn about them, and we're tired of being bullshitted. We'll just have to take care of it when we have a REAL President in office, rather than a con artist.
 
It's truly amazing, many of them cheer when unions are busted and the wages and benefits of working people are reduced and then they turn around and call class warfare when it is pointed out that the people who are reducing the wages and benefits of the working people are doing better financially now than they ever have before.

You forget, those jobs don't belong to the employees, they belong to the owners of the corporations that control the benefits and pay. They can pay whatever they want to and provide wnatever benefits they want to, or even none at all.

So much for the "rising tide raises all boats" theory then. The only thing that gets raised is THEIR boats. Everyone elses' rises on their whims. That's why "trickle down" doesn't work. Trickling is optional and the wealthy don't become wealthy because of a sense of community... they become wealthy because they are driven to amass wealth. So... stepping on the heads of workers is a small price to pay in their path to their success.

Let me tell you something... without the "little people" that they keep fucking over, they wouldn't have a pot to piss in. No one amasses wealth without the help of:

A: their workers
B: their customers.

You keep minimizing labor in this country, no one will be able to afford to buy the shit they make. They will be too busy just trying to survive on the shitty wages that they earn.

I guess that's the "Conservative Vision" of America.

Well!!! Apparently that trickle up poverty is working great! More people are unemployed, on food stamps and other kinds of aid, all thanks to this administration making bad decisions, and then seeing that they were failing, increased their support of those same failed policies.

When will we be miserable enough for him to stop???
 
No, but I will tell you that a Republican (Eisenhower) DID provide for building the road system that we currently enjoy today.....

Federal Aid Highway Act of 1956 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And he did so to provide for the common defense. Otherwise he would not have seen that as the prerogative of the Federal government. The interstate highway system provides a means to effectively move troops and large equipment around the country as needed in cases of national emergency. It even requires that a mile stretch of straight highway be built into the system every five miles. These straight stretches are specifically designed that way to provide thousands of landing strips for military aircraft.

And on the domestic level, the interstate highway system in one way or another benefits every man, woman, and child in America without regard to political leanings, race, socioeconomic standing or any other criteria. It truly does promote the Constitutional GENERAL welfare rather than target special interests.

Yep... and it put many people to work. Hoover Dam provides electricity to many people, put many people to work. The Intercontinental Railroad did much the same thing... ALL of those and many more were public works project funded by taxpayer dollars.

Yet now our infrastructure is crumbling. Our Bridges, our roads, our water systems, our electrical grid...all are on the verge of failure. But Conservatives don't give a shit. All because it's OBAMA that wants to fix it.

How many times do we have to pay to have a job done???????

Gas taxes were put on gasoline "to maintain the roads". Diesel taxes were put on truckers "to repair the roads". Were the first two stimulus programs from Obama "for the infrastructure" (that went to unions, and pet projects of George Soros)? Just how gullible are you?
 
Please explain Americans why you Republicans support the wealthy over your own middle class?

I could never understand why the misguided mouthpieces in the Republican Party continue to make excuses for the top 1% wealthiest while dissing their own in the middle class. Cowards and Traitors, the bunch of ya. While the middle class is trying to unite against the wealthiest, some in the middle class are playing the Benedict Arnold role - all in the name of the Grand Ol' Party. :dunno:

Shameless Cowards - the lot of you:eusa_naughty:

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Asshole. speaking only for myself of course. Just because I don't believe in demonizing the wealthy, or stealing from the wealthy doesn't mean I support the wealthy. Make your own damn way in life and quit trying to grab for yourself what others have earned. You would be the coward and a jack ass to boot.

Let's not forget it started here--:lol::lol:


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And we do not live in 18th Century America. We live in 21st Century America. Get your heads into the present.

Are you honestly suggesting that human nature has changed and thus the principles that govern human nature no longer apply?

Because unless the laws of human nature have changed, than those good and holy principles that government in the 18th century, will govern men in the 21st and even the 99th.
 
And he did so to provide for the common defense. Otherwise he would not have seen that as the prerogative of the Federal government. The interstate highway system provides a means to effectively move troops and large equipment around the country as needed in cases of national emergency. It even requires that a mile stretch of straight highway be built into the system every five miles. These straight stretches are specifically designed that way to provide thousands of landing strips for military aircraft.

And on the domestic level, the interstate highway system in one way or another benefits every man, woman, and child in America without regard to political leanings, race, socioeconomic standing or any other criteria. It truly does promote the Constitutional GENERAL welfare rather than target special interests.

Yep... and it put many people to work. Hoover Dam provides electricity to many people, put many people to work. The Intercontinental Railroad did much the same thing... ALL of those and many more were public works project funded by taxpayer dollars.

Yet now our infrastructure is crumbling. Our Bridges, our roads, our water systems, our electrical grid...all are on the verge of failure. But Conservatives don't give a shit. All because it's OBAMA that wants to fix it.

How many times do we have to pay to have a job done???????

Gas taxes were put on gasoline "to maintain the roads". Diesel taxes were put on truckers "to repair the roads". Were the first two stimulus programs from Obama "for the infrastructure" (that went to unions, and pet projects of George Soros)? Just how gullible are you?

Isn't it an odd coincidence that all those taxes which are supposed to go to infrustracture and jobs end up in the pockets of Democrat campaign contributors who give us no roads or infrustracture but instead funnel it back to the politicians who "accidently" gave them the money
 
Please explain Americans why you Republicans support the wealthy over your own middle class?

I could never understand why the misguided mouthpieces in the Republican Party continue to make excuses for the top 1% wealthiest while dissing their own in the middle class. Cowards and Traitors, the bunch of ya. While the middle class is trying to unite against the wealthiest, some in the middle class are playing the Benedict Arnold role - all in the name of the Grand Ol' Party. :dunno:

Shameless Cowards - the lot of you:eusa_naughty:

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I have news for you -insisting fellow Americans are the "enemy" because they are rich, they work harder than you, they are more successful than you -THAT is being a fucking coward buddy. Sticking up for the rights of others, especially those viewed as easy targets -takes REAL courage. You aren't sticking up for the middle class, what you are doing isn't doing anything FOR the middle class -and if you think you are, you are either deluded or a liar. Your choice but I know which way I'm leaning on that. Seriously, how is it HELPING the middle class by once again targeting a fellow group of Americans and declaring them the enemy? You LIE if you pretend that in ANY way is "sticking up" for the middle class! You can't defend some citizens by declaring other ones are the enemy -you DIVIDE the nation and thereby WEAKEN it - you aren't strengthening it at all. And I suspect you fucking well know that and for many of your ilk, THAT is the real goal. Last I checked, there isn't a single word in the Constitution about how the wealthy are somehow lesser Americans to be considered enemies of the state! YOU are the gutless coward and it takes NO brains to do it either! In fact your handlers count on people like you to not think for yourself -they even have a name for you. Useful idiots -people who are discouraged from thinking for themselves and stupid enough to believe engaging in mob mentality is both brave and intelligent. Mobs are a lot of things, mostly bad -and NEVER intelligent or humane. Which takes more courage? To call those who are more successful at life than you are "enemies" of the state for the "crime" of being successful? Or to defend them from the likes of you who believe in mob rule and people like you who insist that others OWE you the fruits of THEIR labor?

From the very beginning Democrats have ALWAYS targeted others to be singled out as enemies in this country, rejecting our shared citizenship as the ONLY basis for demanding the equal treatment of all by our government. Instead they want a government that at all times discriminates against some of us -for whatever reason they have chosen at the time, insisting those who fall within their currently targeted group are actually "enemies". At all times the left will insist fellow Americans are "enemies" which also says they clearly do not believe those in whatever group they have singled out are their equals. The left will target fellow citizens and demand government adopt a policy of officially discriminating against them as deserving of punishment as little more than THINGS to be reviled and spat upon. One thing the left will NEVER believe in -is having a government that isn't using its power to intimidate and discriminate against some group of fellow Americans. They haven't done it yet and they sure aren't starting now. Listen up bubba -the REAL heroes in this country are those who stand up to the likes of YOU constantly demanding government turn on its own citizens for whatever reason your ILK have chosen that day! Demanding government target different groups of fellow citizens for official discrimination and punitive treatment on whatever basis Democrats have chosen at the time is a LEFTWING "value", not an American one! And it takes COURAGE to stand up against your kind. Calling the people who do "cowards" may make you feel better but in fact your ilk are the real cowards. No kidding there - it is COWARDICE on your part and MINDLESS cowardice at that.

Your very premise is flawed and beyond stupid. What you really want to know is why Republicans refuse to jump on the class warfare train and pretend the wealthy are only wealthy because they must have CHEATED and STOLEN it from us. They didn't steal it from you -therefore it doesn't belong to you. They didn't steal it from ME, so it doesn't belong to ME either. MOST importantly and where the left gets TOTALLY derailed is with their anti-American belief that the fruits of one's own honest work first belongs to government -and not the individual who worked, earned and created it. WRONG -what you work to earn, what I work to earn and yes, what a rich person works to earn -belongs FIRST to the person who worked to earn it. NOT to government which is our SERVANT not our OWNER. Government only exists because of we the people -and NOT the other way around! I am not the slave of government, I am not state owned property of government -and neither is any other American -regardless of their income!

The founding premise in this country is that man has the inherit RIGHT of freedom -the right to make of his life what he will. For better or ill. THAT is what the left rejects. This is what I have said so often now but bears repeating AGAIN. The left HATES freedom, the left REJECTS freedom -because FREEDOM carries a heavy responsibility. The left are for the most part immature people who fear adulthood and believe in a system where they simply exchange their parents for some other entity that will take responsibility for them instead -and protect them from the undesirable consequences of their own poor decisions. Liberalism is about seeking the parental replacement in order to avoid adulthood. Adults love freedom and accept responsibility for themselves. Adolescents still need mommy and daddy to protect them from the consequences of their own stupid decisions - and the left believes in encouraging normal adults to fear adulthood and avoid it at all costs. Even if it means insisting we despise, revile and hate success -and thereby reward and encourage one of the most damaging self-defeating attitudes possible.

The left FIRMLY believes what the RICH earn first belongs to government -or anyone else but those who actually earned it and created it. The problem you have is with people who refuse to accept your basic premise that we are all state owned SLAVES and that government actually owns the fruits of our labor and not the person who busted his ass to create it! Not getting on that train now and never will. If I am not state owned property and the slave of government -then where do I get off insisting others are for the "mistake" of being successful? Are liberals seriously suggesting that wealthy Americans are less "equal" than they are? Have fewer rights? Less right to the fruits of THEIR labor than you have to yours? Less right to have a say about how much they choose to GIVE to government? Liberals are insisting the wealthy have NO right to expect to be treated equally by their own government, but targeted and singled out for onerous taxation liberals would never inflict on themselves!

But consider this -if it isn't YOUR money at stake here, then where do you get off insisting your opinion about how much someone else should pay is more relevant than their own opinion? Apparently liberals are arrogant enough to believe their own opinion carries more weight -even though what they want will not impact THEIR pocketbook. Hmm -what do we call such a system where the most successful are singled out as hateful, despicable, despised people who are somehow "less" than others and we should all view them as ENEMIES? Liberals are CONSTANTLY insisting the real enemies of this country are fellow Americans. It is part of the very foundation of liberalism that I most despise. Liberals act as if the nation belongs only to THEM -all others are "enemies".

I don't understand the belief of leftwingers that if someone busts their ass and earns more than you do, they OWE it to you to fork over a big chunk of it. As if that is "fair". What is fair about taking the fruits of one's labor from the person who busted his ass to earn it -and giving it to someone who didn't? Who got rewarded here and who got punished? Whatever government punishes it will get LESS -whatever it rewards it will get MORE. Does the left SERIOUSLY want fewer people earning great wealth and more people living as parasites who think they are entitled to the fruits of the labor of someone else? REALLY? When did THAT become an American value -and surely you realize that belief is incompatible with freedom and individual rights, correct? I have a RIGHT to what I have worked to earn and it is MY right as well as that of other Americans, to decide how much we CHOOSE to give to government. Government only exists because of we the people -and NOT the other way around!

Our government doesn't create wealth -it can only TAKE it from those who do. The left DESPISES success, they believe it is something that must be discouraged and punished as undesirable. The only rational explanation is to realize the left would rather see millions exist in misery "equally" than have as few as possible at the bottom. But our system was set up to leave as few as possible at the bottom. And it has been so successful those at OUR bottom are actually middle class globally. We have to use our own made-up definition of "poverty" in this country because the international definition doesn't apply at all in this country! And because our definition of poverty is always tied to it being a percentage of those at the very top -we will always have "poor" in this country. And while the word "poor" brings to mind "destitute", in reality in this country they are anything BUT.

The average poor person in the WORLD earns less than $200 a year and their greatest problems are a lack of shelter and calories. Forget access to medical care and an education.

But in this country, any household with an income below $22,000 is considered "poor". But globally this is an income in the middle of the middle class bracket. The average "poor" American has more living space than the average middle class person even among many western nations. The average "poor" American owns a computer, 3 tvs, a microwave, at least one car and has air conditioning. The greatest health problem is the consumption of TOO MANY CALORIES -obesity. The American "poor" are given free medical care and a free education. In other words, they are given advantages denied to the world's REAL poor. The average "poor" person in this country today lives better than all but the very richest person even 100 years ago! Those occupiers on Wall Street? Need to start demanding other countries imitate us, NOT that we imitate the known historical failures in the world instead!

And I think its time we NOT lose sight of this fact. How did that happen that our "poor" have a higher standard of living than even middle class people in most of the world? Its because the US also has the greatest number of wealthy people compared to every other nation. We have more millionaires per capita than other nations -and their very existence puts UPWARD pressure on both the standard of living AND the income for everyone else. When that economic level is decimated, the numbers thinned down and people punished and otherwise discouraged from earning great wealth -it puts DOWNWARD pressure on both income and standard of living.

Why on earth would I be so stupid as to believe discouraging people from earning great wealth by demanding government confiscate it from those who do would in any way benefit either the country or me personally when NEITHER is true? Every time that economic class at the top grows, MY share of the tax burden shrinks at the very same time it increases the pressure on wages for me and everyone else - thereby lifting my standard of living too. Even though I didn't lift a finger to earn great wealth, I still benefit when others do. Even our poor have a standard of living that is the envy of the world -which is why this nation is still among the top draws for those seeking to emigrate to another country! I want MORE people to earn great wealth for themselves, not fewer!

And if you had a shred of intelligence, critical thinking skills or any understanding of the lessons of history - you would too.
 
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You forget, those jobs don't belong to the employees, they belong to the owners of the corporations that control the benefits and pay. They can pay whatever they want to and provide wnatever benefits they want to, or even none at all.

So much for the "rising tide raises all boats" theory then. The only thing that gets raised is THEIR boats. Everyone elses' rises on their whims. That's why "trickle down" doesn't work. Trickling is optional and the wealthy don't become wealthy because of a sense of community... they become wealthy because they are driven to amass wealth. So... stepping on the heads of workers is a small price to pay in their path to their success.

Let me tell you something... without the "little people" that they keep fucking over, they wouldn't have a pot to piss in. No one amasses wealth without the help of:

A: their workers
B: their customers.

You keep minimizing labor in this country, no one will be able to afford to buy the shit they make. They will be too busy just trying to survive on the shitty wages that they earn.

I guess that's the "Conservative Vision" of America.

Well!!! Apparently that trickle up poverty is working great! More people are unemployed, on food stamps and other kinds of aid, all thanks to this administration making bad decisions, and then seeing that they were failing, increased their support of those same failed policies.

When will we be miserable enough for him to stop???

Hey... the System(trickle up) is all Conservatism and Corporatism. So blame your own political philosophy.
 
And he did so to provide for the common defense. Otherwise he would not have seen that as the prerogative of the Federal government. The interstate highway system provides a means to effectively move troops and large equipment around the country as needed in cases of national emergency. It even requires that a mile stretch of straight highway be built into the system every five miles. These straight stretches are specifically designed that way to provide thousands of landing strips for military aircraft.

And on the domestic level, the interstate highway system in one way or another benefits every man, woman, and child in America without regard to political leanings, race, socioeconomic standing or any other criteria. It truly does promote the Constitutional GENERAL welfare rather than target special interests.

Yep... and it put many people to work. Hoover Dam provides electricity to many people, put many people to work. The Intercontinental Railroad did much the same thing... ALL of those and many more were public works project funded by taxpayer dollars.

Yet now our infrastructure is crumbling. Our Bridges, our roads, our water systems, our electrical grid...all are on the verge of failure. But Conservatives don't give a shit. All because it's OBAMA that wants to fix it.

How many times do we have to pay to have a job done???????

Gas taxes were put on gasoline "to maintain the roads". Diesel taxes were put on truckers "to repair the roads". Were the first two stimulus programs from Obama "for the infrastructure" (that went to unions, and pet projects of George Soros)? Just how gullible are you?

ummmm..... proof? methinks your full of shit.
 

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