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Oh. The Right is supposed to run failing Leftwing Radio Stations and make them profitable for the Left?
No thanks. I'd rather to a job that is not quite that thankless.
Dude, lets all call up NPR and say Obama is a communist.
This board has always leaned right of center, in general. Still it is one of the more diverse boards that I have posted on. It is one of the few in which political affiliation is not even considered for staff selection.
i would have to agree, this board is very diverse. i belong to another board that is fairly diverse, though some great lefty members left. there are nutjobs and every board, no matter the size of the board. this board has great posters on both sides of the aisle. though we rarely agree, i like jillian, ravi, goldcatt, and a few others...you see, they have finally accepted that i am always right
Oh, really?
Doesn't bother me being a member of the minority. The debaters on either side aren't trying to silence other views. The board isn't trying to silence any views. And the poo-flinging hack monkeys aren't worth wasting time on. So who cares?
Did I say he was critisizing capitalism?....Noooooooooo.Oh, I comprehend del. Capitalism has made me quite a wealthy man in between two stints in the military. Yeah, us former military sure don't understand capitalism allright...LMAO!reading for comprehension is a good thing.
there was nothing in the original post criticizing capitalism.
as i said, reading comprehension is a good thing.
Did I say he was critisizing capitalism?....Noooooooooo.Oh, I comprehend del. Capitalism has made me quite a wealthy man in between two stints in the military. Yeah, us former military sure don't understand capitalism allright...LMAO!
there was nothing in the original post criticizing capitalism.
as i said, reading comprehension is a good thing.
The idiot was trying to say us former military don't understand capitalism. I simply pointed out that capitalism is what's always made this country strong.
Yes, you definitely need to take a comprehension course, buddy!
Christ man. It must suck going through life with your head buried so far up your ass that you can talk to your friggin' teeth!
It's not just this board, bub.
Those of us who are not Progressives (i.e. ranging from Moderate to Conservative) are not going to be silenced by the hyper Left. Your end of the spectrum has controlled the mainstream media and academia for years - and you begrudge us having a voice.
Tough Shit.
Why are you so hostile?? Why can't you righties treat people the way you want to be treated?? You are the ones that always start shit. Always. Nobody said anything to you that would make you respond like that. Grow up.
you must be joking......i live in the sf bay area....if i go to a dinner party and so much as question the topic being discussed....the venom and hate overflows .....
Air America failed because nobody wanted to listen to it. You could have supported it if it were important to you. NPR receives government handouts and has a very liberal editorial viewpoint. It's not the right's fault that the left can't run a viable business on the radio.
A foothold in television is just that "a foothold" - the majority of editorial content on TV is left leaning.
The internet, that GAWD, is wide open territory. The low overhead of running a website makes it the most "democratic" form of media on the planet - anybody can post news stories and commentary. We should all hope it stays that way.
Air America failed because nobody ever listened to it in the first place.
This is my problem with those who kick, cry, and scream that those pesky Liberals control the media, they have no real clue of reality. The right controls the radio waves. The right has Fox News. The right has just as much of the internet as the left.
Within five years, the internet will have taken over the #1 spot as to where people get their main source of news. And then people like you will have nothing to cry about.
And if you want to complain about the amount of Liberals in Academia, here's a solution:
Get more Conservative scientists and professors.
It's not that difficult. You demean those who worked hard for years in their respective areas by trying to marginalize them to one sort of viewpoint or political ideology.
Edit: I just noticed your spilled milk comment over NPR.
From their wikipedia page:
About 2% of NPR's funding comes from bidding on government grants and programs, chiefly the Corporation for Public Broadcasting; the remainder comes from member station dues, foundation grants, and corporate underwriting.
The reason that the sole right leaning television outlet has such high ratings, and perhaps as you predict the internet will take over as the number one source, is because people were tired of being fed an opinion by editorialists who disguised themselves as journalists. It's funny when the left whines about many of the editorial programs on FOX. It's like they are offended when people don't hide their agenda.
Point is, there is plenty of room in Academia for anyone who is not leftist.
^^^ The heartbreak of delusional thinking on parade.
You are clueless regarding the environment on most university campuses.
I suggest you search David Horowitz for a bit of EDUMACATIONIZINGMENT.
Gotta be honest here, when I became a member, it seemed more like a right leaning board. For the record, it's why I joined....I'm on the right side.
I find it odd that you are concerned that your left leaning fellow posters are posting less due to the influx of righties coming to join the conversation. I also think it's funny that you call the input from the right as mere talking points and reflecting no individual thought. We all use discussion points to start conversations, debates and full-on arguments. Please don't play the division card like that.
I have asked several times and never gotten a straight answer, so I'll ask again since it seems to be the subject...What is your definition (not Webster's) of "TALKING POINT"?
You should welcome the opposite viewpoints...it gives you something to talk about. Otherwise it's just a leftist echo chamber talking about the things that Obama has yet to achieve.
What we've been seeing is the left wingers up here growing more surly as their beloved Obama continues to ass it up. They have no excuses anymore so, surly is the only way they can turn.
It's quite funny and entertaining, to say the least.
Just look at that Dr Gregg dude. He's ready to blow an aneurysm right out his freakin' ear at this point!
Actually, Air America failed because only 21% of our citizens identify with their loony agenda. Advertisers weren't going to pony up to reach such a small fan base. After all, biznezz is biznezz!
You're not ignorant, just stupid, if you can't acknowledge that for decades many in the media presented themselves as unbiased journalists, but had a definite perspective that they insinuated into their "reporting". You don't give people much credit to be able to distinguish news from opinion, but I appreciate your concern that they will be fooled by a label.
That's because for many decades, they were unbiased. Since the 80's, the political lines were drawn. Walter comes to mind as to what a journalist should be.
I'm not saying anything about the people. I'm talking about the dishonesty by "Fox News" by calling themselves a news station when they are no more than a right wing outlet.
Rightwingers are conditioned to flood boards. It's in the handbook.
I agree that they are much more pack orientated in my observation.
And yer not?
I first read that beer label as "Strolling Bones." She has her own beer?
I was a very active member of another forum for almost seven years and eventually left when it was almost impossible to discuss any conservative or right wing point of view without the leftist trolls descending with ad hominem, personal insults, snarky comments, and whatever else they had in their arsenal to destroy the thread. The forum was about 10 to 1 left leaning and despite making several friends there, both left and right, many of whom I remain in contact with, it just wasn't fun anymore.
I have found USMB to be a great mix of thoughtful leftwing and toughtful rightwing members and even though the numbnuts from both camps do mangle a lot of threads, I have been happy here. Sometimes I check on New Posts, and every single thread on the first page is some leftwing point of view. I suspect the balance is pretty good here.
The Left has a strong advantage in radio, television, print media, the public education system, and the entertainment industry. The Right has a strong advantage in talk radio and Nascar. I think it is pretty evenly split in the sporting world. I have found a lot more liberal sites on the Internet than conservative ones, but there is sufficient balance that people can be fully informed.
But I love USMB.
I agree with all of this post. I am just hoping that what you experienced on the other thread doesn't start to happen here in the other direction.
IMO, there seem to be symptoms of such a trend beginning.
Of course this could all be in my imagination.
The tide turns from season to season. There for awhile, Bush supporters were having a rough go of it because so much that was happening was simply unsupportable. It was hard to argue a conservative ideology when so many of our standard bearers were behaving badly. Many left this or that message board because they got tired of getting beat up trying.
Now much is happening in the Obama administration that is simply unsupportable, and his supporters are having a rough go of it. It is more and more difficult to support indefensible behavior of the standard bearers for the Left and I imagine some of those on the Left are becoming weary of getting beat up when they try.
And I know when I am attacked or criticized personally, that feels a lot more important to me than it feels to anybody else. Knowing that does help to put it into perspective.
You know what my hope is? That we all get sick and tired of putting up with inadequate or incompetent standard bearers and find ways to agree on the most important things so that we can fix it.
What's offensive is that FOX says it doesn't have an agenda. The ol' fair and balanced thingie, you know.
Dude said:I can tell when Fakes News' --and even the decidedly lefty CNN's-- reporting of events ends and the opinion begins.
That's not at all the case on DNCNBC.
What's offensive is that FOX says it doesn't have an agenda. The ol' fair and balanced thingie, you know.
No doubt, at least MSNBC and Air America didn't put on airs of impartiality like FoxNews does.
That doesn't make me want to listen or watch them, but it does give them just a tiny hair more credibility, if just a hair.
Watch a small child faced with something out of the ordinary and soon you'll see a reaction, maybe just a turning away, or a running away, often a cry and a look somewhere for comfort. As children we are all conservative - for the unknown, for the different, can be scary. Some of us grow up, and we accept the basic complexity, ambiguity, and confusion of life. Tragedy too. And hopefully we want it to be better.
"It is in the admission of ignorance and the admission of uncertainty that there is a hope for the continuous motion of human beings in some direction that doesn't get confined, permanently blocked, as it has so many times before in various periods in the history of man." *
For others, change is hard, conservatism is simply reactive emotion. I've never had a conservative tell me something conservatism has done for the nation. It is simply a holding back on what is, and sometimes that may be OK, but certainly not always. Exploration and change scares the soul of conservatives.
I am reading Manchester's 'the power and the glory,' (it is long, so you may hear this often) and it so parallels today, it just amazes me. The corporations, business, republicans, conservatives over 80 years ago are the same as today. FDR was a one term president, a commie, un-American and on and on and on. Even Beck is there as Father Coughlin.
One true thing you can say for conservatives and others who hide behind other labels such as libertarian or independent (not all independents) is they haven't changed much in forever... That is one reason I post less today, it's the same old story a tale of love and glory....as the world turns.....life is just too short to always blame others for the evolution of society to some other place....
'I think, watch and babble' One of my favorites, always worth the time. Joe on Ideology.
"So I try to write about irreducible human experience or observations (or just plain emotion, the value and importance of which has been vastly underestimated, completely discarded in fact, thanks to the worship of science and supposed rationality -- much the same as the power of free will has been vastly overstated, so that the captive masses can entertain the illusion of freedom). To the degree that I do contrive toward persuasion, I do so by using disarmingly plain language. But I don't try to sway readers. I really don't. I am simply an irrepressible loudmouth. The power of persuasion is what has gotten us into this mess, and besides, there are just too many screaming voices in this workhouse nation already."
Joe Bageant: Ideology discussions have been demonized
Maybe it's all in our heads! http://www.psych.nyu.edu/amodiolab/Amodio et al. (2007) Nature Neuro.pdf
"Political scientists and psychologists have noted that, on average, conservatives show more structured and persistent cognitive styles, whereas liberals are more responsive to informational complexity, ambiguity and novelty. We tested the hypothesis that these profiles relate to differences in general neurocognitive functioning using event-related potentials, and found that greater liberalism was associated with stronger conflict-related anterior cingulate activity, suggesting greater neurocognitive sensitivity to cues for altering a habitual response pattern."
*Richard Feynman
PS MSM is conservative through and through and Academia is a mixed bag, Conservatives, please face it, the issues you hate are mostly in your mind.
If so many people want to hear far left wackaloons, like Al Frankenstein and Keith Olbertwit, why is it that they can't draw flies for advertisers?Wrong again, on the reverse side of the argument.
then how is the one blaringly conservative news station such as fox get such high ratings? WHy Rush and company get such high ratings? many conservatives seem to hear what they already believe. Those guys spout what they know their audience wants to hear, regardless of how stupid the argument they are making is.
It would seem that of late, the population of this board has taken a rather pronounced turn to the right.
New members have typically been right-wing oriented, and the posts have taken a decidedly right-wing talking point direction, including much in the way of repetitive spam.
It seems that many of my fellow posters on the left-hand side of things, have found this unpalatable and are posting less and less..
It would be unfortunate to see USMB turn into a right-wing echo chamber, ala Townhall.com.
Perhaps folks on both sides might want to talk about this issue and express their political leanings to see if my assertion has any validity whatsoever.
I, myself, am a leftie.
Really. Why is it that the lefties that permeate this board always have that same, lame accusation?
This board leans neither way, nor will I allow it to. Everybody gets to say what they want and only the retards get squashed.
Questions?
