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When was the last time you were in a McDonald's that only had the person operating the register and not filling the order?
Non sequiter. McDonalds is replacing 7000 employees with technology. It's a fact. Again, sorry if the truth doesn't fit your agenda.
The person does more work than just operate a register, so show me how a touch-screen is going to do the work filling the order! Don't you know anything about math or is simple arithmetic too complicated? It isn't going to save McDonald's the amount equal to replacing 7000 employees with machines. The machines can't do all the work of those employees. Does the machine cleanup before it leaves to go home or any of the other chores a minimum wage worker has to do when a customer isn't present?
It's just too complicated for the right-wing brain to figure out businesses will be hurt if wages are too low.
That would only be true if minimum wage laws didn't prevent so many people from working at ALL, which is exactly what happens in the real world. If MW employees (only a few percent of the working populace) get a bit more money, that may help the businesses where they shop, but those same companies must also bear the burden of all the people that are prevented from working by MW laws and therefore go on the dole. So, in the end, it's not good for business and it's immoral as hell to prevent a man from working just because his background, intelligence or capabilities do not warrant your minimum wage. Shame on you for that.
MW sets the standards for near MW jobs.
Bullshit!
The flaw in your lack of logic is you don't see employees spending their money somewhere in the small business environment and more money is spent when people with lower incomes have more money. Some rich person making more money isn't going to spend more, but plenty of people who make up the working class of America will spend more if they have more money.
Anyday you want to explain how a Subway, McDonald's, Walmart, whatever in Europe can pay more for minimum wage and provide universal health care then do it. I told you why they can do it, because they get more business and it offsets most of the additional costs. When you have universal health care, you aren't pissing away all that extra money for health care like we do. You also aren't putting a burden on corporations, like we do our auto industry.
what has your MW guy gained if he makes an additional $50/week but it costs him $50/week more to buy the things he needs? Thats what you guys don't get, minimum wage increases are inflationary, they cause the price of everything to go up.
so yes, your MW guy has more money going through his hands, but he is no better off.
The American economy is fucked because wages are too low. If we put the wages back and stop this outsourcing nonsense, the American economy will take off.
what has your MW guy gained if he makes an additional $50/week but it costs him $50/week more to buy the things he needs? Thats what you guys don't get, minimum wage increases are inflationary, they cause the price of everything to go up.
so yes, your MW guy has more money going through his hands, but he is no better off.
The American economy is fucked because wages are too low. If we put the wages back and stop this outsourcing nonsense, the American economy will take off.
it amazes me that you keep coming back with this crap, after the hammering you took on this thread and the hammering that you took on the other forums, it seems like you might learn something, but I guess that defective liberal gene has blocked the learning cells in your brain---sad, truly sad.
what has your MW guy gained if he makes an additional $50/week but it costs him $50/week more to buy the things he needs? Thats what you guys don't get, minimum wage increases are inflationary, they cause the price of everything to go up.
so yes, your MW guy has more money going through his hands, but he is no better off.
The American economy is fucked because wages are too low. If we put the wages back and stop this outsourcing nonsense, the American economy will take off.
it amazes me that you keep coming back with this crap, after the hammering you took on this thread and the hammering that you took on the other forums, it seems like you might learn something, but I guess that defective liberal gene has blocked the learning cells in your brain---sad, truly sad.
The American economy is fucked because wages are too low.
If we put the wages back and stop this outsourcing nonsense, the American economy will take off.
The American economy is fucked because wages are too low. If we put the wages back and stop this outsourcing nonsense, the American economy will take off.
it amazes me that you keep coming back with this crap, after the hammering you took on this thread and the hammering that you took on the other forums, it seems like you might learn something, but I guess that defective liberal gene has blocked the learning cells in your brain---sad, truly sad.
If he repeats it often enough you'll start to believe it. Or something.
I guess we need to look at high wage countries that are kicking economic butt like Italy and Greece instead of those low wage countries that are wallowing in recession like China and Singapore.
it amazes me that you keep coming back with this crap, after the hammering you took on this thread and the hammering that you took on the other forums, it seems like you might learn something, but I guess that defective liberal gene has blocked the learning cells in your brain---sad, truly sad.
If he repeats it often enough you'll start to believe it. Or something.
I guess we need to look at high wage countries that are kicking economic butt like Italy and Greece instead of those low wage countries that are wallowing in recession like China and Singapore.
Anytime you fools want to explain what will happen if wages continue to decline, then do so. I say it will cause small businesses to go bankrupt and it sure as hell doesn't help a business that is owner operated.
The American economy is fucked because wages are too low.
By your own reasoning, you should have no problem setting a minimum wage of $100 hour. Hell, make it thousand. Do you really believe that would be good for the economy?
If we put the wages back and stop this outsourcing nonsense, the American economy will take off.
You wish to ban outsourcing? You better also ban importation of goods because foreign competitors are going to kick the ass of US companies. Tell us how this would make the economy "take off".
In the USA corporations like Walmart are parasites that suck up taxpayer funds.
Your socialist babblings are at least entertaining.
Walmart is a taxpayer.
U.S. federal: $5.3 billion
U.S. state and local: $677 million
International: $1.1 billion
Before taxes, the world's largest retailer banked $22.1 billion in profit. After deductions and factoring in its international operations, the company still paid just under a third of that back in taxes to various governments.
The federal tax rate for corporations is 35%. Wal-Mart's effective income tax rate came in just under that, at 32.4%
It works the same way for individuals. Just as a person can lower his or her tax rate through deductions and credits, so too can major corporations, said Scott Hodge, president of the Tax Foundation.
But remember, income taxes aren't the only payments major companies make to the IRS. "Wal-Mart probably collects and pays more sales taxes than any other company on earth," Hodge said.
The Walmart Economy by the Numbers
Walmart is powerful
1
Walmarts rank (PDF) as employer of retail workers and rank in size of private U.S. employers
$408.2 billion
Walmarts 2010 revenue as the number one Fortune 100 company
But America is paying the price
196,000
Number of U.S. jobs lost from 2001-2006 as a result of Walmarts imports from China
11%
Conservative estimate of percentage of Walmarts share of U.S. Trade Deficit with China
$8.8 million
Cost to Massachusetts (PDF) of Walmart associates using publicly subsidized health care in 2009
$1 billion
Cost to nation if public safety net use by Walmart associates in Massachusetts is adjusted nationwide
And Walmart associates are paying the price
$15,500
Average annual salary of a Walmart sales associate (based on an IBIS World figure)
$8.81
Average hourly wage of a Walmart sales associate (based on an IBIS World figure)
46¢
Additional cost per shopping trip for a Walmart customer if the company offered a minimum wage of $12 an hour
If he repeats it often enough you'll start to believe it. Or something.
I guess we need to look at high wage countries that are kicking economic butt like Italy and Greece instead of those low wage countries that are wallowing in recession like China and Singapore.
Anytime you fools want to explain what will happen if wages continue to decline, then do so. I say it will cause small businesses to go bankrupt and it sure as hell doesn't help a business that is owner operated.
dumb as a bag of hammers, dub. you never cease to amaze with your ignorance of how the economy actually works.
Anytime you fools want to explain what will happen if wages continue to decline, then do so.
I say it will cause small businesses to go bankrupt and it sure as hell doesn't help a business that is owner operated.
The American economy is fucked because wages are too low.
By your own reasoning, you should have no problem setting a minimum wage of $100 hour. Hell, make it thousand. Do you really believe that would be good for the economy?
If we put the wages back and stop this outsourcing nonsense, the American economy will take off.
You wish to ban outsourcing? You better also ban importation of goods because foreign competitors are going to kick the ass of US companies. Tell us how this would make the economy "take off".
The jobs would be in America and not overseas. The government has always had the authority over our market and once tariffs were the only means of funding the government.
it amazes me that you keep coming back with this crap, after the hammering you took on this thread and the hammering that you took on the other forums, it seems like you might learn something, but I guess that defective liberal gene has blocked the learning cells in your brain---sad, truly sad.
If he repeats it often enough you'll start to believe it. Or something.
I guess we need to look at high wage countries that are kicking economic butt like Italy and Greece instead of those low wage countries that are wallowing in recession like China and Singapore.
Anytime you fools want to explain what will happen if wages continue to decline, then do so. I say it will cause small businesses to go bankrupt and it sure as hell doesn't help a business that is owner operated.
When was the last time you were in a McDonald's that only had the person operating the register and not filling the order?
Non sequiter. McDonalds is replacing 7000 employees with technology. It's a fact. Again, sorry if the truth doesn't fit your agenda.
The person does more work than just operate a register, so show me how a touch-screen is going to do the work filling the order! Don't you know anything about math or is simple arithmetic too complicated? It isn't going to save McDonald's the amount equal to replacing 7000 employees with machines. The machines can't do all the work of those employees. Does the machine cleanup before it leaves to go home or any of the other chores a minimum wage worker has to do when a customer isn't present?
Anytime you fools want to explain what will happen if wages continue to decline, then do so. I say it will cause small businesses to go bankrupt and it sure as hell doesn't help a business that is owner operated.
dumb as a bag of hammers, dub. you never cease to amaze with your ignorance of how the economy actually works.
It's you right-wingers who are fucking dumb. Can you figure out why college educated people don't like your ideology? Try, it sucks!
By your own reasoning, you should have no problem setting a minimum wage of $100 hour. Hell, make it thousand. Do you really believe that would be good for the economy?
You wish to ban outsourcing? You better also ban importation of goods because foreign competitors are going to kick the ass of US companies. Tell us how this would make the economy "take off".
The jobs would be in America and not overseas. The government has always had the authority over our market and once tariffs were the only means of funding the government.
Okay, you've made clear you want to ban (or restrict through punitive measures) outsourcing and the importation of foreign goods. So again, tell us how this would make the economy take off.
Why have you avoided addressing my main point, that imposing a MW keeps many of our most vulnerable citizens from working at all? How do you justify keeping young people from building their resume? How do you justify preventing an elderly person from seeking employment at whatever wage he feels adequate? How do you justify preventing our most uneducated and unintelligent citizens from working at all?
Again, I find that immoral. How do you justify it?
dumb as a bag of hammers, dub. you never cease to amaze with your ignorance of how the economy actually works.
It's you right-wingers who are fucking dumb. Can you figure out why college educated people don't like your ideology? Try, it sucks!
you are correct, many college indoctrinated people do not understand conservativism or how the economy really works. Thats because they have been indoctrinated by a bunch of egg head professors who have never lived in the real world.
Funny thing though, when those people leave college and begin to work for a living they begin to realize that the profs were full of shit. Some never get it and become wards of the state via the welfare system---which are you?
