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It used to be but not any more. With the lack of jobs available for low skill level workers and workers who used to work in plants and factories long since shut down, more and more people have the choice between minimum wage jobs or no jobs. Which would you choose?
no one said it would destroy the economy, what was said is that it will not help the economy and will not help the MW earner.
It will help both the economy and the minimum wage earner. This is 2.2% of the work force, working on jobs which don't affect prices all that much. Raising the minimum wage helps far more people than it hurts, and, contrary to the beliefs of the conservatives here has reduced unemployment every time the MW has risen.
BTW, how many adults are working for MW? how many see MW wage jobs as their life's work?
More than 80% of MW workers are adults. Only 20% are teenagers. With the loss of manufacturing jobs overseas, many people will take any job, even a minimum wage job, rather than go on welfare.
this whole thing is stupid. MW is for teens and those just entering the workforce.
It used to be but not any more. With the lack of jobs available for low skill level workers and workers who used to work in plants and factories long since shut down, more and more people have the choice between minimum wage jobs or no jobs. Which would you choose?
I don't know why the left wants to destroy more jobs, but they're doing what it takes to frighten business owners into freezing the new hires and even closing shop if they have to stop losing money. Your salary is your profit. You can pay employees all day and have nothing leftover for yourself. You get nothing for your 80 hour weeks when you have no profit. Been there done that, wore out 23 t-shirts.no one said it would destroy the economy, what was said is that it will not help the economy and will not help the MW earner.
It will help both the economy and the minimum wage earner. This is 2.2% of the work force, working on jobs which don't affect prices all that much. Raising the minimum wage helps far more people than it hurts, and, contrary to the beliefs of the conservatives here has reduced unemployment every time the MW has risen.
More than 80% of MW workers are adults. Only 20% are teenagers. With the loss of manufacturing jobs overseas, many people will take any job, even a minimum wage job, rather than go on welfare.
this whole thing is stupid. MW is for teens and those just entering the workforce.
It used to be but not any more. With the lack of jobs available for low skill level workers and workers who used to work in plants and factories long since shut down, more and more people have the choice between minimum wage jobs or no jobs. Which would you choose?
Raising the MW will decrease the supply of such jobs, and drive some of those adults into unemployment.
How compassionate of you.
no one said it would destroy the economy, what was said is that it will not help the economy and will not help the MW earner.
It will help both the economy and the minimum wage earner. This is 2.2% of the work force, working on jobs which don't affect prices all that much. Raising the minimum wage helps far more people than it hurts, and, contrary to the beliefs of the conservatives here has reduced unemployment every time the MW has risen.
More than 80% of MW workers are adults. Only 20% are teenagers. With the loss of manufacturing jobs overseas, many people will take any job, even a minimum wage job, rather than go on welfare.
this whole thing is stupid. MW is for teens and those just entering the workforce.
It used to be but not any more. With the lack of jobs available for low skill level workers and workers who used to work in plants and factories long since shut down, more and more people have the choice between minimum wage jobs or no jobs. Which would you choose?
Raising the MW will decrease the supply of such jobs, and drive some of those adults into unemployment.
How compassionate of you.
How compassionate are you to suggest people making minimum wage should constantly have their wages eroded?
Giving 2.2% of the 59.7% a raise will just destroy the whole economy according to fools!
No, you're not consistent. If you really believe that then companies will prosper by doubling every wage they pay. Tell me why that isn't a good idea, since it will give their customers so much more money to spend.
If you doubled all wages except the top wages it would hurt exports and you would have to solve the outsourcing problem it would generate. The smart thing is to set things like wages and taxes at the right rates and not go to extremes, but knowing that would require someone to be smart and a smart person wouldn't always be talking about stupid things.
The problem with the way our economic system functions is it keeps wages too low and allows outsourcing to keep inflation low. The economic system is designed to protect fortunes and not to build an economy for the people.
You assume that people continue to make min wage through their working lives. I realize that might be a reality for you but the truth is most people get raises within 18 months of getting hired.It will help both the economy and the minimum wage earner. This is 2.2% of the work force, working on jobs which don't affect prices all that much. Raising the minimum wage helps far more people than it hurts, and, contrary to the beliefs of the conservatives here has reduced unemployment every time the MW has risen.
More than 80% of MW workers are adults. Only 20% are teenagers. With the loss of manufacturing jobs overseas, many people will take any job, even a minimum wage job, rather than go on welfare.
It used to be but not any more. With the lack of jobs available for low skill level workers and workers who used to work in plants and factories long since shut down, more and more people have the choice between minimum wage jobs or no jobs. Which would you choose?
Raising the MW will decrease the supply of such jobs, and drive some of those adults into unemployment.
How compassionate of you.
How compassionate are you to suggest people making minimum wage should constantly have their wages eroded?
Based on your posts, I assume you took disability, and no job.
Amazing that you only gave two choices: How about the don't be a dumbass and get an education so you can go to work for the government making an average salary of $80k/year choice?
Your socialist babblings are at least entertaining.
Walmart is a taxpayer.
U.S. federal: $5.3 billion
U.S. state and local: $677 million
International: $1.1 billion
Before taxes, the world's largest retailer banked $22.1 billion in profit. After deductions and factoring in its international operations, the company still paid just under a third of that back in taxes to various governments.
The federal tax rate for corporations is 35%. Wal-Mart's effective income tax rate came in just under that, at 32.4%
It works the same way for individuals. Just as a person can lower his or her tax rate through deductions and credits, so too can major corporations, said Scott Hodge, president of the Tax Foundation.
But remember, income taxes aren't the only payments major companies make to the IRS. "Wal-Mart probably collects and pays more sales taxes than any other company on earth," Hodge said.
Facts » Making Change at Walmart
I can always tell when the stupid become desperate: They begin to cite agreewithliberal.org internet links for "facts."
No, you're not consistent. If you really believe that then companies will prosper by doubling every wage they pay. Tell me why that isn't a good idea, since it will give their customers so much more money to spend.
If you doubled all wages except the top wages it would hurt exports and you would have to solve the outsourcing problem it would generate. The smart thing is to set things like wages and taxes at the right rates and not go to extremes, but knowing that would require someone to be smart and a smart person wouldn't always be talking about stupid things.
The problem with the way our economic system functions is it keeps wages too low and allows outsourcing to keep inflation low. The economic system is designed to protect fortunes and not to build an economy for the people.
So increasing wages ultimately hurts business. Glad you see that now.
Perhaps you'd prefer a Soviet style command economy with smart bureaucrats setting wages and prices. We see how that worked out.
As for protecting fortunes, I think the heirs of Hettie Green would disagree.
Conservatives are really big on retraining people but the working poor don't have the money to retrain, nor do they have the option to stop working and go to school because they have families to support and bills to pay.
I don't know why the left wants to destroy more jobs, but they're doing what it takes to frighten business owners into freezing the new hires and even closing shop if they have to stop losing money. Your salary is your profit. You can pay employees all day and have nothing leftover for yourself. You get nothing for your 80 hour weeks when you have no profit. Been there done that, wore out 23 t-shirts.It will help both the economy and the minimum wage earner. This is 2.2% of the work force, working on jobs which don't affect prices all that much. Raising the minimum wage helps far more people than it hurts, and, contrary to the beliefs of the conservatives here has reduced unemployment every time the MW has risen.
More than 80% of MW workers are adults. Only 20% are teenagers. With the loss of manufacturing jobs overseas, many people will take any job, even a minimum wage job, rather than go on welfare.
It used to be but not any more. With the lack of jobs available for low skill level workers and workers who used to work in plants and factories long since shut down, more and more people have the choice between minimum wage jobs or no jobs. Which would you choose?
Raising the MW will decrease the supply of such jobs, and drive some of those adults into unemployment.
How compassionate of you.
I can always tell when the stupid become desperate: They begin to cite agreewithliberal.org internet links for "facts."
Insipid responses are not a substitute for refuting facts that overide your position.
Conservatives are really big on retraining people but the working poor don't have the money to retrain, nor do they have the option to stop working and go to school because they have families to support and bills to pay.
Hey, you go to school in the USA for FREE. An entire Department of Education is devoted to your success from age 5-18. Afterward, you can join the military, or not. Instead you can fuck around, have kids, and make minimum wage.
Lotta BAD choices have lead to some idiot with a family living on minimum wage. Adults live with those choices. Children get on a message board and whine about them, then follow some politician around gathering government cheese in his wake.
Conservatives are really big on retraining people but the working poor don't have the money to retrain, nor do they have the option to stop working and go to school because they have families to support and bills to pay.
Hey, you go to school in the USA for FREE. An entire Department of Education is devoted to your success from age 5-18. Afterward, you can join the military, or not. Instead you can fuck around, have kids, and make minimum wage.
Lotta BAD choices have lead to some idiot with a family living on minimum wage. Adults live with those choices. Children get on a message board and whine about them, then follow some politician around gathering government cheese in his wake.
The "blame the victim" mentality seems to be the a core value of those who claim that this is a Christian nation.
I've shown these idiots that the FED has a mandate to prevent a wage/price spiral.
I gave you a link to the stats, so calculate it!
How many times does it have to be proven that the majority of MW workers aren't teens?
why is this such a big deal to you? are you making minimum wage?
It's only a big deal to me because I'm an American. When I made minimum wage it was during the times when it was the highest and I didn't think it was that much money. Back then gasoline was pumped by people making minimum wage too. The baby boomers were entering the workforce and there were jobs. The banks paid interest. People were buying homes and in ten years owned half the equity of the home. The country was manufacturing it's own goods. Those were much better times before this country was sold out to the rich.
your old saw "sold out to the rich" is just as stupid every time you say it. Sold out to liberalism would be a more accurate statement. It started with FDR and got worse with every president since.
why is this such a big deal to you? are you making minimum wage?
It's only a big deal to me because I'm an American. When I made minimum wage it was during the times when it was the highest and I didn't think it was that much money. Back then gasoline was pumped by people making minimum wage too. The baby boomers were entering the workforce and there were jobs. The banks paid interest. People were buying homes and in ten years owned half the equity of the home. The country was manufacturing it's own goods. Those were much better times before this country was sold out to the rich.
yes, they were better times, but your conclusion on why they changed is totally wrong. In those times individuals were responsible for taking care of themselves and their families. People were embarrassed to take welfare because it meant you were a failure.
your old saw "sold out to the rich" is just as stupid every time you say it. Sold out to liberalism would be a more accurate statement. It started with FDR and got worse with every president since.
liberal thought is what has ruined the country that you and I grew up in. liberalism has destroyed europe and will destroy the USA if we let it.
