Pope Francis Answers Criticism from the Political Rght

[edthecynic]

The far right religious folks are afraid of messing with the Pope. Rightfully so.

The self declared expert on the far right doesn't know that the far right thinks the Catholic Church s the Whore of Babylon?

Catholic America: Hagee and the "Whore of Babylon" - On Faith at washingtonpost.com

Whores like Hagee claim that Catholics are "godless" until they want to claim that 87+% of Americans believe in God and then miraculously Catholics suddenly believe in God.

From your link:

No where does he retract the virulent anti-Catholic bigotry of his several books such as From Daniel to Doomsday (1999), Jerusalem Countdown (2005) and the earlier work, “Should Christians Support Israel?”(1987), which calls Catholicism a “Godless theology of hate.”

 

[Barb]

I already addressed his actual words, and see nothing he said in this quote that changes my mind about his ability to deal with reality. The guy has lived a life where he had everything handed to him for decades, and got that ability due to the very economic polices he thinks suck. I am sure he would love to go back to the days when governments paid the fucking Holy Roman Church absolution from their sins, I prefer the world we have now.

So it's official: You don't know the first thing about the man, and you'll write absolutely ANYTHING you pull out of your ass.

and got that ability due to the very economic polices he thinks suck.

He's not FROM here, sparky - but "the very economic polices he thinks suck" are.

The guy has been a Catholic priest since 1969. That means that, for the last 44 years he hasn't had to worry about food, shelter, or clothing.He has also had a salary in addition to his basic needs, and had an expense account that covered everything else he could possible want. I admire the fact that he doesn't go for all the pomp and circumstances inherent in his office, but he is not anything like Gandhi when it comes to actually experiencing hardship because of his career choices.

So if he hasn't suffered like Gandhi he has no credibility? Face it, you don't like his message. I get it.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

The far right religious folks are afraid of messing with the Pope. Rightfully so.

The self declared expert on the far right doesn't know that the far right thinks the Catholic Church s the Whore of Babylon?

Catholic America: Hagee and the "Whore of Babylon" - On Faith at washingtonpost.com

Whores like Hagee claim that Catholics are "godless" until they want to claim that 87+% of Americans believe in God and then miraculously Catholics suddenly believe in God.

From your link:

No where does he retract the virulent anti-Catholic bigotry of his several books such as From Daniel to Doomsday (1999), Jerusalem Countdown (2005) and the earlier work, “Should Christians Support Israel?”(1987), which calls Catholicism a “Godless theology of hate.”

Which makes Jake look even dumber, it also explains why he hasn't been back to the thread.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

So it's official: You don't know the first thing about the man, and you'll write absolutely ANYTHING you pull out of your ass.

He's not FROM here, sparky - but "the very economic polices he thinks suck" are.

The guy has been a Catholic priest since 1969. That means that, for the last 44 years he hasn't had to worry about food, shelter, or clothing.He has also had a salary in addition to his basic needs, and had an expense account that covered everything else he could possible want. I admire the fact that he doesn't go for all the pomp and circumstances inherent in his office, but he is not anything like Gandhi when it comes to actually experiencing hardship because of his career choices.

So if he hasn't suffered like Gandhi he has no credibility? Face it, you don't like his message. I get it.

I am just pointing out that you are putting him on a pedestal that he shouldn't be on. My guess is he would tell you the same fucking, and probably be a lot more vehement about it.


Then again, you aren't the only idiot that thinks he is somehow different than any other pope, even though he is saying the exact same thing they have been for centuries.

 

[Barb]

The guy has been a Catholic priest since 1969. That means that, for the last 44 years he hasn't had to worry about food, shelter, or clothing.He has also had a salary in addition to his basic needs, and had an expense account that covered everything else he could possible want. I admire the fact that he doesn't go for all the pomp and circumstances inherent in his office, but he is not anything like Gandhi when it comes to actually experiencing hardship because of his career choices.

So if he hasn't suffered like Gandhi he has no credibility? Face it, you don't like his message. I get it.

I am just pointing out that you are putting him on a pedestal that he shouldn't be on. My guess is he would tell you the same fucking, and probably be a lot more vehement about it.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0245xP_HVk]Minion says "Whaaat?!" - YouTube[/ame]

Then again, you aren't the only idiot that thinks he is somehow different than any other pope, even though he is saying the exact same thing they have been for centuries.

He's realigned priorities, and he is better than any Pope in my lifetime.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

So if he hasn't suffered like Gandhi he has no credibility? Face it, you don't like his message. I get it.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0245xP_HVk"]Minion says "Whaaat?!" - YouTube[/ame]

Then again, you aren't the only idiot that thinks he is somehow different than any other pope, even though he is saying the exact same thing they have been for centuries.

He's realigned priorities, and he is better than any Pope in my lifetime.

Let us test that.

Here are some quoted for you to consider.

On homosexuality.

It is deplorable that homosexual persons have been and are the object of violent malice in speech or in action. Such treatment deserves condemnation from the Church's pastors wherever it occurs.

On the free market.

The market is not, and must not become, the place where the strong subdue the weak.

On women in ministry.

Jesus chose 12 men as fathers of the new Israel, 'to be with Him and to be sent out to proclaim the message', but … among the disciples many women were also chosen. They played an active role within the context of Jesus's mission.

Now for the bad news, all those quotes come from Pope Emeritus Benedict during his tenure as pope. In other wrds, everything you think makes Benedict something special is simply him repeating the long standing policy of the Catholic church. The only thing that changed is the drooling idiots who report on what the pope says don't pay attention, and think he is saying new stuff.

He isn't.

Pope Benedict XVI: in his own words | World news | The Guardian

 

[Unkotare]

He is not a Christian leader.

Of course he is. Catholics are Christians.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Minion says "Whaaat?!" - YouTube

He's realigned priorities, and he is better than any Pope in my lifetime.

Let us test that.

Here are some quoted for you to consider.

On homosexuality.



On the free market.

The market is not, and must not become, the place where the strong subdue the weak.

On women in ministry.

Jesus chose 12 men as fathers of the new Israel, 'to be with Him and to be sent out to proclaim the message', but … among the disciples many women were also chosen. They played an active role within the context of Jesus's mission.

Now for the bad news, all those quotes come from Pope Emeritus Benedict during his tenure as pope. In other wrds, everything you think makes Benedict something special is simply him repeating the long standing policy of the Catholic church. The only thing that changed is the drooling idiots who report on what the pope says don't pay attention, and think he is saying new stuff.

He isn't.

Pope Benedict XVI: in his own words | World news | The Guardian

Pope Frances has spoken to the world, broadcasting his vision across the broad spectrum of humanity. To suggest he has not changed the conversation is disingenuous. It matters not to whom or when prior Popes spoke, the message by Pope Frances in 2013 reverberated among all demographics.

The power he has and the fear he invoked was made clear when Rush Limbaugh felt the need to call him out using a pejorative. The ubiquitous RED SCARE always works with some, the some Lincoln noted in these remarks: "You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.










One knows the power his eminence has by the fear it instills in the dogmatic, and those who prosper from it, and when Rush Limbaugh is forced to call him out and use the RED SCARE

 

[Quantum Windbag]

He's realigned priorities, and he is better than any Pope in my lifetime.

Let us test that.

Here are some quoted for you to consider.

On homosexuality.



On the free market.



On women in ministry.

Jesus chose 12 men as fathers of the new Israel, 'to be with Him and to be sent out to proclaim the message', but … among the disciples many women were also chosen. They played an active role within the context of Jesus's mission.

Now for the bad news, all those quotes come from Pope Emeritus Benedict during his tenure as pope. In other wrds, everything you think makes Benedict something special is simply him repeating the long standing policy of the Catholic church. The only thing that changed is the drooling idiots who report on what the pope says don't pay attention, and think he is saying new stuff.

He isn't.

Pope Benedict XVI: in his own words | World news | The Guardian

Pope Frances has spoken to the world, broadcasting his vision across the broad spectrum of humanity. To suggest he has not changed the conversation is disingenuous. It matters not to whom or when prior Popes spoke, the message by Pope Frances in 2013 reverberated among all demographics.

The power he has and the fear he invoked was made clear when Rush Limbaugh felt the need to call him out using a pejorative. The ubiquitous RED SCARE always works with some, the some Lincoln noted in these remarks: "You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.










One knows the power his eminence has by the fear it instills in the dogmatic, and those who prosper from it, and when Rush Limbaugh is forced to call him out and use the RED SCARE

He didn't change the conversation, the media did. They clothed him in a mystery entirely of their own invention ( They did that before, but I can't remember who it was that the did it with. Some obscure state Senator from Illinois who gave a speech at a political convention a few years ago.) He is saying the exact same thing popes have been saying for centuries, that is why he is pope. The fact that you don't know that just proves you haven't been paying attention.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Let us test that.

Here are some quoted for you to consider.

On homosexuality.



On the free market.



On women in ministry.

Now for the bad news, all those quotes come from Pope Emeritus Benedict during his tenure as pope. In other wrds, everything you think makes Benedict something special is simply him repeating the long standing policy of the Catholic church. The only thing that changed is the drooling idiots who report on what the pope says don't pay attention, and think he is saying new stuff.

He isn't.

Pope Benedict XVI: in his own words | World news | The Guardian

Pope Frances has spoken to the world, broadcasting his vision across the broad spectrum of humanity. To suggest he has not changed the conversation is disingenuous. It matters not to whom or when prior Popes spoke, the message by Pope Frances in 2013 reverberated among all demographics.

The power he has and the fear he invoked was made clear when Rush Limbaugh felt the need to call him out using a pejorative. The ubiquitous RED SCARE always works with some, the some Lincoln noted in these remarks: "You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.










One knows the power his eminence has by the fear it instills in the dogmatic, and those who prosper from it, and when Rush Limbaugh is forced to call him out and use the RED SCARE

He didn't change the conversation, the media did. They clothed him in a mystery entirely of their own invention ( They did that before, but I can't remember who it was that the did it with. Some obscure state Senator from Illinois who gave a speech at a political convention a few years ago.) He is saying the exact same thing popes have been saying for centuries, that is why he is pope. The fact that you don't know that just proves you haven't been paying attention.

It's the fault of the MSM!!! Of course, I should have anticipated this banal remark from you. Those CEO's of major corporations like CBS, ABC, NBC and Time, Inc. are the uber liberal progressives who support communism and socialism and ismisms and eschew profit as evil.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Pope Frances has spoken to the world, broadcasting his vision across the broad spectrum of humanity. To suggest he has not changed the conversation is disingenuous. It matters not to whom or when prior Popes spoke, the message by Pope Frances in 2013 reverberated among all demographics.

The power he has and the fear he invoked was made clear when Rush Limbaugh felt the need to call him out using a pejorative. The ubiquitous RED SCARE always works with some, the some Lincoln noted in these remarks: "You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.










One knows the power his eminence has by the fear it instills in the dogmatic, and those who prosper from it, and when Rush Limbaugh is forced to call him out and use the RED SCARE

He didn't change the conversation, the media did. They clothed him in a mystery entirely of their own invention ( They did that before, but I can't remember who it was that the did it with. Some obscure state Senator from Illinois who gave a speech at a political convention a few years ago.) He is saying the exact same thing popes have been saying for centuries, that is why he is pope. The fact that you don't know that just proves you haven't been paying attention.

It's the fault of the MSM!!! Of course, I should have anticipated this banal remark from you. Those CEO's of major corporations like CBS, ABC, NBC and Time, Inc. are the uber liberal progressives who support communism and socialism and ismisms and eschew profit as evil.

Yeah, that is what I said.

 

[Barb]

He didn't change the conversation, the media did. They clothed him in a mystery entirely of their own invention ( They did that before, but I can't remember who it was that the did it with. Some obscure state Senator from Illinois who gave a speech at a political convention a few years ago.) He is saying the exact same thing popes have been saying for centuries, that is why he is pope. The fact that you don't know that just proves you haven't been paying attention.

It's the fault of the MSM!!! Of course, I should have anticipated this banal remark from you. Those CEO's of major corporations like CBS, ABC, NBC and Time, Inc. are the uber liberal progressives who support communism and socialism and ismisms and eschew profit as evil.

Yeah, that is what I said.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0245xP_HVk]Minion says "Whaaat?!" - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Barb]

Minion says "Whaaat?!" - YouTube

He's realigned priorities, and he is better than any Pope in my lifetime.

Let us test that.

Here are some quoted for you to consider.

On homosexuality.



On the free market.

The market is not, and must not become, the place where the strong subdue the weak.

On women in ministry.

Jesus chose 12 men as fathers of the new Israel, 'to be with Him and to be sent out to proclaim the message', but … among the disciples many women were also chosen. They played an active role within the context of Jesus's mission.

Now for the bad news, all those quotes come from Pope Emeritus Benedict during his tenure as pope. In other wrds, everything you think makes Benedict something special is simply him repeating the long standing policy of the Catholic church. The only thing that changed is the drooling idiots who report on what the pope says don't pay attention, and think he is saying new stuff.

He isn't.

Pope Benedict XVI: in his own words | World news | The Guardian

In the OP of this thread is a link to and a quote FROM an interview with Pope Francis saying that everything he wrote was within Church Canon. As I said, it is a matter of changing priorities. You are deliberately dismissing that point, and the points that prove it.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

He's realigned priorities, and he is better than any Pope in my lifetime.

Let us test that.

Here are some quoted for you to consider.

On homosexuality.



On the free market.



On women in ministry.

Jesus chose 12 men as fathers of the new Israel, 'to be with Him and to be sent out to proclaim the message', but … among the disciples many women were also chosen. They played an active role within the context of Jesus's mission.

Now for the bad news, all those quotes come from Pope Emeritus Benedict during his tenure as pope. In other wrds, everything you think makes Benedict something special is simply him repeating the long standing policy of the Catholic church. The only thing that changed is the drooling idiots who report on what the pope says don't pay attention, and think he is saying new stuff.

He isn't.

Pope Benedict XVI: in his own words | World news | The Guardian

In the OP of this thread is a link to and a quote FROM an interview with Pope Francis saying that everything he wrote was within Church Canon. As I said, it is a matter of changing priorities. You are deliberately dismissing that point, and the points that prove it.

You are still wrong. The priority of the church has always been saving people's eternal souls. You just keep insisting that, because Francis is getting favorable press, that proves what he means is different than what Benedict said the exact same thing.

 

[Barb]

Let us test that.

Here are some quoted for you to consider.

On homosexuality.



On the free market.



On women in ministry.

Now for the bad news, all those quotes come from Pope Emeritus Benedict during his tenure as pope. In other wrds, everything you think makes Benedict something special is simply him repeating the long standing policy of the Catholic church. The only thing that changed is the drooling idiots who report on what the pope says don't pay attention, and think he is saying new stuff.

He isn't.

Pope Benedict XVI: in his own words | World news | The Guardian

In the OP of this thread is a link to and a quote FROM an interview with Pope Francis saying that everything he wrote was within Church Canon. As I said, it is a matter of changing priorities. You are deliberately dismissing that point, and the points that prove it.

You are still wrong. The priority of the church has always been saving people's eternal souls. You just keep insisting that, because Francis is getting favorable press, that proves what he means is different than what Benedict said the exact same thing.

Benedict did not come out and say that the Church spends too much time condemning
(all the social wedge issues on the right wing wish list) and that they need to refocus their attention FROM doctrine TO the more important and pressing pastoral issues.

Pope Francis DID.

Be ye FISHERS of men.

 

[Luissa]

I already addressed his actual words, and see nothing he said in this quote that changes my mind about his ability to deal with reality. The guy has lived a life where he had everything handed to him for decades, and got that ability due to the very economic polices he thinks suck. I am sure he would love to go back to the days when governments paid the fucking Holy Roman Church absolution from their sins, I prefer the world we have now.

So it's official: You don't know the first thing about the man, and you'll write absolutely ANYTHING you pull out of your ass.

and got that ability due to the very economic polices he thinks suck.

He's not FROM here, sparky - but "the very economic polices he thinks suck" are.

The guy has been a Catholic priest since 1969. That means that, for the last 44 years he hasn't had to worry about food, shelter, or clothing.He has also had a salary in addition to his basic needs, and had an expense account that covered everything else he could possible want. I admire the fact that he doesn't go for all the pomp and circumstances inherent in his office, but he is not anything like Gandhi when it comes to actually experiencing hardship because of his career choices.

When you are a Jesuit Priest you don't get a expense account for your every possible want. They live a very basic simple life.
Our current Pope was also a janitor in Argentina before becoming a Pope. I wonder if that was a cake walk?

And in response to him benefiting from a certain economy. You do realize Argentina is a socialist nation?

The New Pope is quite different from the last few Popes. You are just too much of an idiot to realize that.


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[Luissa]

Minion says "Whaaat?!" - YouTube

He's realigned priorities, and he is better than any Pope in my lifetime.

Let us test that.

Here are some quoted for you to consider.

On homosexuality.



On the free market.

The market is not, and must not become, the place where the strong subdue the weak.

On women in ministry.

Jesus chose 12 men as fathers of the new Israel, 'to be with Him and to be sent out to proclaim the message', but … among the disciples many women were also chosen. They played an active role within the context of Jesus's mission.

Now for the bad news, all those quotes come from Pope Emeritus Benedict during his tenure as pope. In other wrds, everything you think makes Benedict something special is simply him repeating the long standing policy of the Catholic church. The only thing that changed is the drooling idiots who report on what the pope says don't pay attention, and think he is saying new stuff.

He isn't.

Pope Benedict XVI: in his own words | World news | The Guardian

Benedict gave a speech claiming gay marriage and abortion was a threat to world peace.



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[Quantum Windbag]

For everyone who thinks they have all the answers, let me lay out a timeline for you. A few years ago various pundits decided to announce that the next pope would be different. They declared that he would allow married men to be priests.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/10/opinion/10iht-edkristof.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/13/opinion/new-pope-ive-given-up-hope.html

There was even speculation that he would allow women priests, and that he would finally back down from the church's opposition to homosexuality and abortion. When Benedict announced his retirement the media went into a feeding frenzy speculating about the changes the new pope would make in the church.

Since that time they have been poring over every word he says looking for what they want to see, something that would prove that, this time, they were right. That, this time, they picked someone who agrees with them, and wants to change the world to be the way they want it to be.

Benedict hasn't changed a single fucking thing in the priorities, or the views, of the church. This is the exact same church today it was 100 years ago, and it will be the same church in another 100 years. Only idiots look for proof they are right, intelligent people take the world the way it is. Obama did not stop the rise of the oceans, and Benedict did not change the the priorities of the church.

For the record, it would be easier to stop the rise of the ocean than change the Catholic Church. If it was actually going to change it would have done so when Luther published his Ninty-Five Thesis to the door in 1517. It took them centuries after that just to stop doing the mass in Latin, and to not kill people just for owning the Bible.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

So it's official: You don't know the first thing about the man, and you'll write absolutely ANYTHING you pull out of your ass.

He's not FROM here, sparky - but "the very economic polices he thinks suck" are.

The guy has been a Catholic priest since 1969. That means that, for the last 44 years he hasn't had to worry about food, shelter, or clothing.He has also had a salary in addition to his basic needs, and had an expense account that covered everything else he could possible want. I admire the fact that he doesn't go for all the pomp and circumstances inherent in his office, but he is not anything like Gandhi when it comes to actually experiencing hardship because of his career choices.

When you are a Jesuit Priest you don't get a expense account for your every possible want. They live a very basic simple life.
Our current Pope was also a janitor in Argentina before becoming a Pope. I wonder if that was a cake walk?

And in response to him benefiting from a certain economy. You do realize Argentina is a socialist nation?

The New Pope is quite different from the last few Popes. You are just too much of an idiot to realize that.


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You do when you are a Cardinal.

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[Quantum Windbag]

He's realigned priorities, and he is better than any Pope in my lifetime.

Let us test that.

Here are some quoted for you to consider.

On homosexuality.



On the free market.



On women in ministry.

Jesus chose 12 men as fathers of the new Israel, 'to be with Him and to be sent out to proclaim the message', but … among the disciples many women were also chosen. They played an active role within the context of Jesus's mission.

Now for the bad news, all those quotes come from Pope Emeritus Benedict during his tenure as pope. In other wrds, everything you think makes Benedict something special is simply him repeating the long standing policy of the Catholic church. The only thing that changed is the drooling idiots who report on what the pope says don't pay attention, and think he is saying new stuff.

He isn't.

Pope Benedict XVI: in his own words | World news | The Guardian

Benedict gave a speech claiming gay marriage and abortion was a threat to world peace.



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Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio said it was the work of the devil, what's your point?

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