Portland truck attack suspect arrested

[Dogmaphobe]

Am I the only one who has noticed that this thread about the utterly heinous actions of a thug beating a man to within an inch of life has been derailed so successfully into a discussion about somebody else altogether?

 

[Mac-7]

I don’t. Did Labella blind them?

Someone from the “peaceful protesters” crowd did

 

[beagle9]

Protesting is a free speech right. He was on a public street. He was not engaging in an illegal act such as rioting. Love how you justify this.

How do you justify the police officers blinded or partially blinded by these “peaceful protesters?”

I don’t. Did Labella blind them?

Why aren't you asking yourself that question ?? I know why, because you don't actually know the answer do you ?? Just cover for them because it might get back that these people are operating for forces out to overthrow Trump by all that is taking place.

 

[Mac-7]

Six or seven Fed officers just defending that Courthouse over 2 nights have permanent eye damage from lasers.. Over 20 with serious injuries.. NYPD lost over 30 vehicles in the 1st 2 DAYS of looting downtown stores for "reparations"... The left doesn't know -- because the media wont report the magnitude and extent of it...

This comes down to another “what exactly are the facts moment”...obviously some media is reporting this...I have read about riots. I wonder if some media left out serious injuries by the feds, to protesters who were not engaged in violence? A young man shot in the head with a rubber bullet, needing facial reconstruction, a metal plate in his head and will have some permanent damage. Over 20 people have eye damage or blinding from rubber bullets (not just pPortland). Or the veteran who was trying to talk to them, and was beaten so badly bones were broken. And did they report that the protests had mostly died down before the feds interfered and inflamed them all over again? The people brought in, the Feds are not like the police who are trained in crowd control.

Hope to use it against Trump.. But they can only do that if the voting public is unaware as to how much has lost in lives, businesses, 1st responders, and neighborhoods living in fear..

Ironic story of all this is the lefty reporter living in NYC who thought he was SAFE LIVING above a Starbucks because his sources of news didn't TELL THEM that Starbucks is on the hit list by the radicals.. Got burned out of his apartment in the 1st week... Not a happy lefty reporter anymore..

I think when this down, there will be a mistakes on both sides to be found.

Are t you even curious about what sort of leftwing missong links are causing all the violence and monetary loss on portland?

we may not know because the lib news media wont tell us, but I suspect most of them are losers who were not doing anything useful with their lives to begin with

of all the reports about the 26 year old anarchist who was shot with a rubber bullet not one says what he was doing to earn a living

dont you wonder where these people come from?

It's why they are being used like they are by the leftist. They have no life, and the leftist know this all to well.

This guy has a gofundme page where he says he wants enough money to just drift around the country doing nothing

 

[beagle9]

Six or seven Fed officers just defending that Courthouse over 2 nights have permanent eye damage from lasers.. Over 20 with serious injuries.. NYPD lost over 30 vehicles in the 1st 2 DAYS of looting downtown stores for "reparations"... The left doesn't know -- because the media wont report the magnitude and extent of it...

This comes down to another “what exactly are the facts moment”...obviously some media is reporting this...I have read about riots. I wonder if some media left out serious injuries by the feds, to protesters who were not engaged in violence? A young man shot in the head with a rubber bullet, needing facial reconstruction, a metal plate in his head and will have some permanent damage. Over 20 people have eye damage or blinding from rubber bullets (not just pPortland). Or the veteran who was trying to talk to them, and was beaten so badly bones were broken. And did they report that the protests had mostly died down before the feds interfered and inflamed them all over again? The people brought in, the Feds are not like the police who are trained in crowd control.

Hope to use it against Trump.. But they can only do that if the voting public is unaware as to how much has lost in lives, businesses, 1st responders, and neighborhoods living in fear..

Ironic story of all this is the lefty reporter living in NYC who thought he was SAFE LIVING above a Starbucks because his sources of news didn't TELL THEM that Starbucks is on the hit list by the radicals.. Got burned out of his apartment in the 1st week... Not a happy lefty reporter anymore..

I think when this down, there will be a mistakes on both sides to be found.

Are t you even curious about what sort of leftwing missong links are causing all the violence and monetary loss on portland?

we may not know because the lib news media wont tell us, but I suspect most of them are losers who were not doing anything useful with their lives to begin with

of all the reports about the 26 year old anarchist who was shot with a rubber bullet not one says what he was doing to earn a living

dont you wonder where these people come from?

It's why they are being used like they are by the leftist. They have no life, and the leftist know this all to well.

This guy has a gofundme page where he says he wants enough money to just drift around the country doing nothing

Really !!!!!! Well isn't that interesting. Many should be investigated as to where their funding is coming from. Most Americans I know have to work, so how are these people sustaining themselves is the huge question to be checked out.

 

[irosie91]

Prove he was rioting.

He was in a riot when he caught one in the forehead

what was his day job?

No. He was standing across the street from holding up a speaker. Caught on video. No one, not even the feds stated he was rioting. Try again.

What was he doing there ?? Viewing the war from a dangerous position ?? Oh well.

During the civil war when it started, the town's people took up position's on the hill in order to watch the insuing battle. Well they sure got more than they bargained for.

Protesting is a free speech right. He was on a public street. He was not engaging in an illegal act such as rioting. Love how you justify this.

Give us more detail and proof other than your bullcrap cotton candy stories/excuses being made, and we might become curious. Anyone participating in the on going anarchy and mayhem that is being found in the streets of these cities, and way after their protest point was made way back, uhh should be arrested for participating in the destructive nature of these riots.

when Giuliani ----an apostate democrat----held sway way back in the 90s----spitting on the sidewalk was a crime for both black and white. TODAY there is a
MORATORIUM on criminal prosecution depending on RACE. why? ----simple------just mumble to yourself "400 years of slavery" I have no idea to which years and to which place that "400 years" refers. Slavery has been a THING-----documented in human history for more than 5000 years. (there is a remarkable paucity of documents older than 5000 years)

 

[irosie91]

Am I the only one who has noticed that this thread about the utterly heinous actions of a thug beating a man to within an inch of life has been derailed so successfully into a discussion about somebody else altogether?

welcome to the era of POLITICAL chit chat

 

[beagle9]

Prove he was rioting.

He was in a riot when he caught one in the forehead

what was his day job?

No. He was standing across the street from holding up a speaker. Caught on video. No one, not even the feds stated he was rioting. Try again.

What was he doing there ?? Viewing the war from a dangerous position ?? Oh well.

During the civil war when it started, the town's people took up position's on the hill in order to watch the insuing battle. Well they sure got more than they bargained for.

Protesting is a free speech right. He was on a public street. He was not engaging in an illegal act such as rioting. Love how you justify this.

Give us more detail and proof other than your bullcrap cotton candy stories/excuses being made, and we might become curious. Anyone participating in the on going anarchy and mayhem that is being found in the streets of these cities, and way after their protest point was made way back, uhh should be arrested for participating in the destructive nature of these riots.

when Giuliani ----an apostate democrat----held sway way back in the 90s----spitting on the sidewalk was a crime for both black and white. TODAY there is a
MORATORIUM on criminal prosecution depending on RACE. why? ----simple------just mumble to yourself "400 years of slavery" I have no idea to which years and to which place that "400 years" refers. Slavery has been a THING-----documented in human history for more than 5000 years. (there is a remarkable paucity of documents older than 5000 years)

Obama got it going, and now it's in full swing.

 

[irosie91]

Prove he was rioting.

He was in a riot when he caught one in the forehead

what was his day job?

No. He was standing across the street from holding up a speaker. Caught on video. No one, not even the feds stated he was rioting. Try again.

What was he doing there ?? Viewing the war from a dangerous position ?? Oh well.

During the civil war when it started, the town's people took up position's on the hill in order to watch the insuing battle. Well they sure got more than they bargained for.

Protesting is a free speech right. He was on a public street. He was not engaging in an illegal act such as rioting. Love how you justify this.

Give us more detail and proof other than your bullcrap cotton candy stories/excuses being made, and we might become curious. Anyone participating in the on going anarchy and mayhem that is being found in the streets of these cities, and way after their protest point was made way back, uhh should be arrested for participating in the destructive nature of these riots.

when Giuliani ----an apostate democrat----held sway way back in the 90s----spitting on the sidewalk was a crime for both black and white. TODAY there is a
MORATORIUM on criminal prosecution depending on RACE. why? ----simple------just mumble to yourself "400 years of slavery" I have no idea to which years and to which place that "400 years" refers. Slavery has been a THING-----documented in human history for more than 5000 years. (there is a remarkable paucity of documents older than 5000 years)

Obama got it going, and now it's in full swing.

a little known factoid-----poor Davy Dinkins got caught up in the same issue----way back when black people rioted in the 1990s. I believe it destroyed him and that neither Dinkins or Obama INTENDED it to be so. Anyone out there remember "The Crown Heights Riots"??

 

[beagle9]

Prove he was rioting.

He was in a riot when he caught one in the forehead

what was his day job?

No. He was standing across the street from holding up a speaker. Caught on video. No one, not even the feds stated he was rioting. Try again.

What was he doing there ?? Viewing the war from a dangerous position ?? Oh well.

During the civil war when it started, the town's people took up position's on the hill in order to watch the insuing battle. Well they sure got more than they bargained for.

Protesting is a free speech right. He was on a public street. He was not engaging in an illegal act such as rioting. Love how you justify this.

Give us more detail and proof other than your bullcrap cotton candy stories/excuses being made, and we might become curious. Anyone participating in the on going anarchy and mayhem that is being found in the streets of these cities, and way after their protest point was made way back, uhh should be arrested for participating in the destructive nature of these riots.

when Giuliani ----an apostate democrat----held sway way back in the 90s----spitting on the sidewalk was a crime for both black and white. TODAY there is a
MORATORIUM on criminal prosecution depending on RACE. why? ----simple------just mumble to yourself "400 years of slavery" I have no idea to which years and to which place that "400 years" refers. Slavery has been a THING-----documented in human history for more than 5000 years. (there is a remarkable paucity of documents older than 5000 years)

Obama got it going, and now it's in full swing.

a little known factoid-----poor Davy Dinkins got caught up in the same issue----way back when black people rioted in the 1990s. I believe it destroyed him and that neither Dinkins or Obama INTENDED it to be so. Anyone out there remember "The Crown Heights Riots"??

Would have to read up on it. Thanks.

 

[HenryBHough]

Give Great Thanks that Obama is not still "president" or the guy would not be in jail - rather in The Rose Garden for an all-awash-with-beer "Hero Of The People" medal presentation.

 

[irosie91]

Prove he was rioting.

He was in a riot when he caught one in the forehead

what was his day job?

No. He was standing across the street from holding up a speaker. Caught on video. No one, not even the feds stated he was rioting. Try again.

What was he doing there ?? Viewing the war from a dangerous position ?? Oh well.

During the civil war when it started, the town's people took up position's on the hill in order to watch the insuing battle. Well they sure got more than they bargained for.

Protesting is a free speech right. He was on a public street. He was not engaging in an illegal act such as rioting. Love how you justify this.

Give us more detail and proof other than your bullcrap cotton candy stories/excuses being made, and we might become curious. Anyone participating in the on going anarchy and mayhem that is being found in the streets of these cities, and way after their protest point was made way back, uhh should be arrested for participating in the destructive nature of these riots.

when Giuliani ----an apostate democrat----held sway way back in the 90s----spitting on the sidewalk was a crime for both black and white. TODAY there is a
MORATORIUM on criminal prosecution depending on RACE. why? ----simple------just mumble to yourself "400 years of slavery" I have no idea to which years and to which place that "400 years" refers. Slavery has been a THING-----documented in human history for more than 5000 years. (there is a remarkable paucity of documents older than 5000 years)

Obama got it going, and now it's in full swing.

a little known factoid-----poor Davy Dinkins got caught up in the same issue----way back when black people rioted in the 1990s. I believe it destroyed him and that neither Dinkins or Obama INTENDED it to be so. Anyone out there remember "The Crown Heights Riots"??

Would have to read up on it. Thanks.

feel free to ask questions----I witnessed it first hand. VERY VERY up close. The events were something like a microcosm of some of the stuff going on NATIONALLY now----almost a preview of BLM. A similarity that makes me sad-----is that some of the rampaging, looting thugs claimed "the mayor (Dinkins a black mayor of NYC ) said we could (loot)"
Dinkins, clearly, didn't and IMHO neither did Obama. ironically----both Obama and Dinkins are victims

 

[Mac-7]

Six or seven Fed officers just defending that Courthouse over 2 nights have permanent eye damage from lasers.. Over 20 with serious injuries.. NYPD lost over 30 vehicles in the 1st 2 DAYS of looting downtown stores for "reparations"... The left doesn't know -- because the media wont report the magnitude and extent of it...

This comes down to another “what exactly are the facts moment”...obviously some media is reporting this...I have read about riots. I wonder if some media left out serious injuries by the feds, to protesters who were not engaged in violence? A young man shot in the head with a rubber bullet, needing facial reconstruction, a metal plate in his head and will have some permanent damage. Over 20 people have eye damage or blinding from rubber bullets (not just pPortland). Or the veteran who was trying to talk to them, and was beaten so badly bones were broken. And did they report that the protests had mostly died down before the feds interfered and inflamed them all over again? The people brought in, the Feds are not like the police who are trained in crowd control.

Hope to use it against Trump.. But they can only do that if the voting public is unaware as to how much has lost in lives, businesses, 1st responders, and neighborhoods living in fear..

Ironic story of all this is the lefty reporter living in NYC who thought he was SAFE LIVING above a Starbucks because his sources of news didn't TELL THEM that Starbucks is on the hit list by the radicals.. Got burned out of his apartment in the 1st week... Not a happy lefty reporter anymore..

I think when this down, there will be a mistakes on both sides to be found.

Are t you even curious about what sort of leftwing missong links are causing all the violence and monetary loss on portland?

we may not know because the lib news media wont tell us, but I suspect most of them are losers who were not doing anything useful with their lives to begin with

of all the reports about the 26 year old anarchist who was shot with a rubber bullet not one says what he was doing to earn a living

dont you wonder where these people come from?

It's why they are being used like they are by the leftist. They have no life, and the leftist know this all to well.

This guy has a gofundme page where he says he wants enough money to just drift around the country doing nothing

Really !!!!!! Well isn't that interesting. Many should be investigated as to where their funding is coming from. Most Americans I know have to work, so how are these people sustaining themselves is the huge question to be checked out.

As I keep saying, with few exceptions most of the nightly rioters on the streets in portland and other cities are non productive dredges of society

 

[Mac-7]

Prove he was rioting.

He was in a riot when he caught one in the forehead

what was his day job?

No. He was standing across the street from holding up a speaker. Caught on video. No one, not even the feds stated he was rioting. Try again.

What was he doing there ?? Viewing the war from a dangerous position ?? Oh well.

During the civil war when it started, the town's people took up position's on the hill in order to watch the insuing battle. Well they sure got more than they bargained for.

Protesting is a free speech right. He was on a public street. He was not engaging in an illegal act such as rioting. Love how you justify this.

Give us more detail and proof other than your bullcrap cotton candy stories/excuses being made, and we might become curious. Anyone participating in the on going anarchy and mayhem that is being found in the streets of these cities, and way after their protest point was made way back, uhh should be arrested for participating in the destructive nature of these riots.

when Giuliani ----an apostate democrat----held sway way back in the 90s----spitting on the sidewalk was a crime for both black and white. TODAY there is a
MORATORIUM on criminal prosecution depending on RACE. why? ----simple------just mumble to yourself "400 years of slavery" I have no idea to which years and to which place that "400 years" refers. Slavery has been a THING-----documented in human history for more than 5000 years. (there is a remarkable paucity of documents older than 5000 years)

Obama got it going, and now it's in full swing.

a little known factoid-----poor Davy Dinkins got caught up in the same issue----way back when black people rioted in the 1990s. I believe it destroyed him and that neither Dinkins or Obama INTENDED it to be so. Anyone out there remember "The Crown Heights Riots"??

Democrats are incompetent to run cities, states, or the nation

 

[beagle9]

Prove he was rioting.

He was in a riot when he caught one in the forehead

what was his day job?

No. He was standing across the street from holding up a speaker. Caught on video. No one, not even the feds stated he was rioting. Try again.

What was he doing there ?? Viewing the war from a dangerous position ?? Oh well.

During the civil war when it started, the town's people took up position's on the hill in order to watch the insuing battle. Well they sure got more than they bargained for.

Protesting is a free speech right. He was on a public street. He was not engaging in an illegal act such as rioting. Love how you justify this.

Give us more detail and proof other than your bullcrap cotton candy stories/excuses being made, and we might become curious. Anyone participating in the on going anarchy and mayhem that is being found in the streets of these cities, and way after their protest point was made way back, uhh should be arrested for participating in the destructive nature of these riots.

when Giuliani ----an apostate democrat----held sway way back in the 90s----spitting on the sidewalk was a crime for both black and white. TODAY there is a
MORATORIUM on criminal prosecution depending on RACE. why? ----simple------just mumble to yourself "400 years of slavery" I have no idea to which years and to which place that "400 years" refers. Slavery has been a THING-----documented in human history for more than 5000 years. (there is a remarkable paucity of documents older than 5000 years)

Obama got it going, and now it's in full swing.

a little known factoid-----poor Davy Dinkins got caught up in the same issue----way back when black people rioted in the 1990s. I believe it destroyed him and that neither Dinkins or Obama INTENDED it to be so. Anyone out there remember "The Crown Heights Riots"??

Democrats are incompetent to run cities, states, or the nation

They're to indebted to their agenda's that don't include the best interest of the nation or the citizen's as a whole... They are hopeless, destructive, and wrecklace. You are absolutely right.

 

[Picaro]

Re 'The Old West', it wasn't all that bad; if you went by Hollywood, it was all one giant gunfight and massacres, which is rubbish. It was also a exercise in the effectiveness of selective gun control, which annoys the right wing fanatics, too. It was a very practical common sense place, overall, a feature of society that has been lost to Affluenza and giving assorted deviants and halfwits credibility they don't deserve. 'Vigilantism' worked just fine for the times, when nothing else was available. When the police 'stand down' and the National Guard is nowhere to be seen, then 'vigilantism' will fill the vacuum sooner or later, especially if the courts and local govt. are stacked with vermin left wing political appointees.

It worked very well in the Depression, too, with county sheriffs relying on vigilantes to help shut down criminal gangs; usually they deputized American Legion posts, if there was one around, otherwise they used known locals. Many just captured or killed them and then called the police. The scene from Dillinger, the Warren Oates B&W version, where Harry Dean Stanton meets his end from 'a bunch of farmers' would be a realistic event. It would be like that around here, since we're anywhere from 20 minutes to 40 minutes from County and State police response times. We might even just bury them out by the dump and not even bother calling it in.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

You should watch the video. We know exactly why he was attacked. Democrats were robbing a transgender person and he stuck up for her, so they attacked him next.

Really, where is that on the tape... All we see is the aftermath where he and his Tranny friend crashed their truck.

This is what evil looks like

 

[iceberg]

westwall...are we talking about two different things?

Self defense (or immediate defense of another)...

Or..taking the law into your own hands and meting out justice?

Because imo those are two different things. The first, I agree with you on and the law recognizes it as valid. That is not vigilantism.

Vigilantism begins with self defense. When the State refuses to defend the people, the people are going to defends themselves. Then, if the State CONTINUES to do nothing, the vigilantes will mete out justice. They will do so under control however. Your interpretation of vigilante justice is completely wrong. In all the cases in the west where it was used, the accused was duly tried, had a jury determine guilt, and then was summarily hanged for the crimes they were convicted of. The vigilantes rose up ONLY as a last resort.

They then disbanded. That was true in all cases. Unlike what progressives claim, the regular people are not the bloodthirsty mob you claim them to be. They are NOT the BLM assholes who are doing exactly that! That sort of behavior is a LEFTIST thing. Not a normal human being thing.

I don’t agree...while I agree with you on self defense, I can never condone vigilantism. It is lawlessness at best, and caused the deaths of thousands at worst. It is mob justice.

What do you think is going to happen when the rioters continue to wreak havoc without consequence. Human nature tells us that if they suffer no consequences, they will escalate. How many murders do they have to commit before you start paying attention?

Who says it is without consequence? Most of this is occurring in a very small areas (though the RW media insists entire cities are burning and people everywhere being murdered) - worst have been charged and will be prosecuted. The man who pulled the guy from his car and attacked him is in jail (and apparently has a record of prior violence).

Shooting is not an acceptable consequence for disorderly conduct.

No, it's not. This assault on common decency is ripping the heart out of at least four major cities. It is a LIE that the rioting is small and localised. Portland's downtown is shuttered, the same for Seattle and Minneapolis, and significant parts of New York as well.

This is not localized. Why do you perpetuate these lies? Anyone can look at the THOUSANDS of videos being posted up, every day, and see what is really happening. You have to be willfully ignorant, and only watch CNN to be this misinformed.

I never watch CNN. I do not have cable. I do not use twitter, instagram, nor do I derive my news from FB.

Videos don't tell a whole story, and can often be used to perpetrate a lie. I see the point with Portland (though I will further research it - for instance - where did that map of arson come from? Is that all arsons for that period of time? Or, just those related to protests? What is the timeline - for instance were there many at the start and then they dwindled? How widespread is it NOW? Why doesn't anyone ask questions?

If people are mostly videoing and virally spreading only the violent clashes, and ignoring the (boring) mostly peaceful ones, then doesn't that perpetrate a false sense of what is going on?

Who's agenda is at stake perpetrating THAT? How can you get facts? Are agitators from both sides trying to hijack these movements to start a war? According to the FBI many protests involve outside elements. And them...there is what is going on online. But we're so dug down into left/right we could be failing to see larger patterns.

Here is an article from 7/28/2020 illustrating how both sides are using this to their advantage.

The Portland Protests Are a War Zoneâbut Only on the Internet

What's happening in the streets isn't what you're seeing in the tweets.

www.wired.com

Protests in Portland following the killing of Floyd, an unarmed Black man who died in the custody of Minneapolis police in May, had dwindled to maybe 100 peaceful demonstrators per night before President Trump sent federal agents to the city, ostensibly to protect US government property.

Trump and his backers assert that the deployments are necessary to curb unrest in cities that have become anarchic war zones. You’d be hard-pressed to prove that’s true in Portland if you bothered to look anywhere but Lownsdale Square at midnight. (The only disruptive anarchists in my neighborhood are the crows in my garden.) If any widespread, persistent Portland protest war zone does exist, it isn’t in physical space at all. It’s online.

Anything that happens during a Portland protest happens in front of at least one camera and will end up on the internet. The crowd is full of smartphones. Men in press helmets climb up streetlights with expensive rigs to get a better view. People at the protest pulled up livestreams to see what was happening at the front of the crowd, squinting to see if the Feds had left their fortress yet. The federal agents watched those livestreams too. Ergo, anything that happens at a Portland protest is meme fodder and a chance for good or bad online PR.


So tell me again how accurate videos are? When I said that the Portland Protests were mostly confined to one area - it was true. By the time Trump decided to send in his militia - it was Lowesten Square. It was winding down.

feel free to find videos of the peaceful protests.

You call being shot in the forehead with a rubber bullet...a "bean bag"? Not hardly. The injury was severe and life changing. All he was doing was holding a speaker over his head.

What was Donavan La Bella doing with his life before he became a rioter and got shot with a rubber bullet?

He wasn’t rioting.

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westwall...are we talking about two different things?

Self defense (or immediate defense of another)...

Or..taking the law into your own hands and meting out justice?

Because imo those are two different things. The first, I agree with you on and the law recognizes it as valid. That is not vigilantism.

Vigilantism begins with self defense. When the State refuses to defend the people, the people are going to defends themselves. Then, if the State CONTINUES to do nothing, the vigilantes will mete out justice. They will do so under control however. Your interpretation of vigilante justice is completely wrong. In all the cases in the west where it was used, the accused was duly tried, had a jury determine guilt, and then was summarily hanged for the crimes they were convicted of. The vigilantes rose up ONLY as a last resort.

They then disbanded. That was true in all cases. Unlike what progressives claim, the regular people are not the bloodthirsty mob you claim them to be. They are NOT the BLM assholes who are doing exactly that! That sort of behavior is a LEFTIST thing. Not a normal human being thing.

I don’t agree...while I agree with you on self defense, I can never condone vigilantism. It is lawlessness at best, and caused the deaths of thousands at worst. It is mob justice.

What do you think is going to happen when the rioters continue to wreak havoc without consequence. Human nature tells us that if they suffer no consequences, they will escalate. How many murders do they have to commit before you start paying attention?

Who says it is without consequence? Most of this is occurring in a very small areas (though the RW media insists entire cities are burning and people everywhere being murdered) - worst have been charged and will be prosecuted. The man who pulled the guy from his car and attacked him is in jail (and apparently has a record of prior violence).

Shooting is not an acceptable consequence for disorderly conduct.

No, it's not. This assault on common decency is ripping the heart out of at least four major cities. It is a LIE that the rioting is small and localised. Portland's downtown is shuttered, the same for Seattle and Minneapolis, and significant parts of New York as well.

This is not localized. Why do you perpetuate these lies? Anyone can look at the THOUSANDS of videos being posted up, every day, and see what is really happening. You have to be willfully ignorant, and only watch CNN to be this misinformed.

I never watch CNN. I do not have cable. I do not use twitter, instagram, nor do I derive my news from FB.

Videos don't tell a whole story, and can often be used to perpetrate a lie. I see the point with Portland (though I will further research it - for instance - where did that map of arson come from? Is that all arsons for that period of time? Or, just those related to protests? What is the timeline - for instance were there many at the start and then they dwindled? How widespread is it NOW? Why doesn't anyone ask questions?

If people are mostly videoing and virally spreading only the violent clashes, and ignoring the (boring) mostly peaceful ones, then doesn't that perpetrate a false sense of what is going on?

Who's agenda is at stake perpetrating THAT? How can you get facts? Are agitators from both sides trying to hijack these movements to start a war? According to the FBI many protests involve outside elements. And them...there is what is going on online. But we're so dug down into left/right we could be failing to see larger patterns.

Here is an article from 7/28/2020 illustrating how both sides are using this to their advantage.

The Portland Protests Are a War Zoneâbut Only on the Internet

What's happening in the streets isn't what you're seeing in the tweets.

www.wired.com

Protests in Portland following the killing of Floyd, an unarmed Black man who died in the custody of Minneapolis police in May, had dwindled to maybe 100 peaceful demonstrators per night before President Trump sent federal agents to the city, ostensibly to protect US government property.

Trump and his backers assert that the deployments are necessary to curb unrest in cities that have become anarchic war zones. You’d be hard-pressed to prove that’s true in Portland if you bothered to look anywhere but Lownsdale Square at midnight. (The only disruptive anarchists in my neighborhood are the crows in my garden.) If any widespread, persistent Portland protest war zone does exist, it isn’t in physical space at all. It’s online.

Anything that happens during a Portland protest happens in front of at least one camera and will end up on the internet. The crowd is full of smartphones. Men in press helmets climb up streetlights with expensive rigs to get a better view. People at the protest pulled up livestreams to see what was happening at the front of the crowd, squinting to see if the Feds had left their fortress yet. The federal agents watched those livestreams too. Ergo, anything that happens at a Portland protest is meme fodder and a chance for good or bad online PR.


So tell me again how accurate videos are? When I said that the Portland Protests were mostly confined to one area - it was true. By the time Trump decided to send in his militia - it was Lowesten Square. It was winding down.

feel free to find videos of the peaceful protests.

You call being shot in the forehead with a rubber bullet...a "bean bag"? Not hardly. The injury was severe and life changing. All he was doing was holding a speaker over his head.

What was Donavan La Bella doing with his life before he became a rioter and got shot with a rubber bullet?

He wasn’t rioting.

And what were the dates of these videos?

are people STILL doing peaceful protests?

it's amazing to me you say the scope of violence is limited. if these protests are not recent then it doesn't compare to the violence that is prelevent today now does it?

 

[irosie91]

It's happening just around the corner from my house----both east and west-----It AIN't "peaceful" Well---if one moves down a mile or so---it's happening south too-----north one hits the river

 

[Uncensored2008]

Cell phone cameras are the bane of the left. The left depends on the complacent and complicit press to filter events, as long as AP were deciding what people could know, the left had absolutely control. But now anyone with a phone can record events as they happen. And yes, YouTube can censor and suppress, but then other sites just host it.

You can scream "who will you believe, our GLORIOUS party press, or you own lying eyes," but to no avail.

Until it's a cell phone video of police brutality, then watch the rapid back step from the right.

Video: Videos Show How Federal Officers Escalated Violence in Portland

Peaceful protests were already happening for weeks when federal officers arrived on July 4. Our video shows how President Trump’s deployment ignited chaos.

www.nytimes.com

So, it's brutality that he was nailed with a bean bag with stolen goods in his hands?

Are there any criminal acts you DON'T support and promote?

You call being shot in the forehead with a rubber bullet...a "bean bag"? Not hardly. The injury was severe and life changing. All he was doing was holding a speaker over his head.

Donavan La Bella, man shot by US Marshals in Portland, to be released from hospital

Donavan La Bella, the 26-year-old protester who a U.S. Marshal shot and severely injured on July 11, is slowly recovering and due to be released from in-patient rehab this weekend, according to his mother, Desiree La Bella.

www.opb.org

Portland Protester Shot in Head With Impact Weapon by Federal Officer: Video

Donavan LaBella is a protester who was shot in the head with an impact weapon by a federal officer outside a Portland courthouse on video and seriously injured.

heavy.com

Now you thugs are sending his family hate messages and death threats. No indication he was holding stolen property either.

Wow. Speaking of defending the indefensible here...

Look, boom boxes went out in the early 80s, so more than likely he wasn't just carrying some music box on his shoulder. Hey, do the crime suffer the consequences. If you ask me the law hasn't been tough enough on them yet.

They said he was holding up a speaker. No one has said otherwise. Why do make excuses for it? He committed no crime. You are no different then those you criticize of you support this viole ce.

This is what I find amazing - to you looting isn't a crime. Ironically, Islam is the only religion that the American Communist party, the democrats, will tolerate. Under Sharia like democrats have imposed in Minneapolis, the penalty for stealing a blue tooth speaker like that is having your hand cut off.