Prince Dead at 57

[Markle]

I am not sure who gets his fortune but his death is going to spur massive CD sales and as I just said, they are ready to re-release Purple Rain....that is just too creepy to me. Randy Quaid even gave a press conference claiming that there were star whackers.

It happens. I wonder how much money was made off Elvis after he died? Hell, Kurt Cobain was more famous after he died than before! I think this happens with everyone who is famous.

Elvis has been dead longer than he was alive. His estate has earned more since his death than when he was alive. Elvis is still one of the leading earners among deceased singers and most that are still alive.

 

[JustAnotherNut]

Just because any of the artists mentioned are jerks, perks or terks......doesn't mean their music was worthless.

Yes MJ was a perv, but up until the last few years, he was unstoppable. Same with Elvis, later he went to shit, but in the early & mid years he was huge, and on and on...

 

[rcfieldz]

I still think the guy , Prince, was stupid. At least for trying to control his own media. I think that artists and groups who allow freedom of speech on the internet are only helping their fame. Unless it's a breakdown or drunken tirade. But the way Prince has effectively stopped postings of his songs and live performances doesn't make him into anything but an artist with a socialistic view in my opinion. So to the musical obscurity bin he goes.
Prince who?

Well I think you are a moron who has probably never created anything in his life. His songs are his work, his intellectual property. You think he should donate that to you for free... why? Because you're special? Music piracy is a multi-billion dollar industry in this country and artists have every right to pursue whatever avenue is effective in stopping it however they can. It amounts to petty theft. When you gank a song from the Internet without paying, it's no different than pocketing a snickers bar at the drugstore.

It's NOT socialism to stop you from stealing other people's work! It's capitalism and how capitalism functions. You want the song? ...pay for the goddamn song! You're not ENTITLED to have the song because you need it. You have no constitutional rights to be entertained for free.

And I will tell you something else... 100 years from now, you will be just as goofy acting when you ask "Prince Who?" as you are today. People will remember this artist forever.

Well you're stupid and wrong.

 

[Boss]

For the record I went to a prince concert and it sucked. He didn't do his full songs he was doing medleys and of course we wanted to hear all the songs from purple rain. I feel robbed because everyone says Prince concerts were great. Lol. He's a musical genius

That's because, when you went he was performing under a contract dispute with his 'previous' label. He could not perform those songs or perform as "Prince" ...that's why he came up with the symbol and "artist formerly known as" tag. It was a brilliant maneuver to get around his contractual agreement. It sucked for his fans, they never understood what was going on, and his popularity took a nose dive. Later, he ended up buying the rights to all his music and went back to being Prince.

The final show he did in Atlanta wasn't a typical Prince concert, it was like an "unplugged" version with a lot of him on the stage solo w/acoustic guitar. He performed many of his older songs but in a very different way. I am still kicking myself for passing on the chance to go see him... coulda had tickets front and center... decided against the 2-hr. drive.

 

[jillian]

Just because any of the artists mentioned are jerks, perks or terks......doesn't mean their music was worthless.

Yes MJ was a perv, but up until the last few years, he was unstoppable. Same with Elvis, later he went to shit, but in the early & mid years he was huge, and on and on...

i largely agree with that.

i'm just not sure why a thread honoring a talented artist who died too young needs to devolve into a "but i like elvis" thread.

 

[skye]

Just because any of the artists mentioned are jerks, perks or terks......doesn't mean their music was worthless.

Yes MJ was a perv, but up until the last few years, he was unstoppable. Same with Elvis, later he went to shit, but in the early & mid years he was huge, and on and on...

Exactly.

Are we going to judge Picasso or Modigliani ... Mozart ....or any of the masters because of their private lives?

Of course not.

 

[jillian]

I still think the guy , Prince, was stupid. At least for trying to control his own media. I think that artists and groups who allow freedom of speech on the internet are only helping their fame. Unless it's a breakdown or drunken tirade. But the way Prince has effectively stopped postings of his songs and live performances doesn't make him into anything but an artist with a socialistic view in my opinion. So to the musical obscurity bin he goes.
Prince who?

he wrote, produced, played many if not most of the instruments on his albums and had enough financial success where he wasn't interested in record companies telling him he was releasing too much product from a commercial perspective.

not quite sure how that's "stupid"

and there are a lot of artists who pull their content from the internet.

and try getting anything on youtube if it's owned by certain companies.

 

[rcfieldz]

I still think the guy , Prince, was stupid. At least for trying to control his own media. I think that artists and groups who allow freedom of speech on the internet are only helping their fame. Unless it's a breakdown or drunken tirade. But the way Prince has effectively stopped postings of his songs and live performances doesn't make him into anything but an artist with a socialistic view in my opinion. So to the musical obscurity bin he goes.
Prince who?

he wrote, produced, played many if not most of the instruments on his albums and had enough financial success where he wasn't interested in record companies telling him he was releasing too much product from a commercial perspective.

not quite sure how that's "stupid"

He was so into control he wouldn't let people take pictures or cell phone videos of his performances. Why? What was he afraid of? I have said nothing in any way about his talent. Just his control issues. I saw his 2013 performance on Jimmy Fallon with Third Eye Girl and he smoked that gig. But because of NBC and his strange over the top copyright infringement control issues one cannot see tha performance on the internet no more for free. Too bad tuff luck. I had a so so recording on a VHS tape I accidently erased. I wish I hadn't. I'm just saying if he doesn't want anybody to see him perform or to be able to upload a performance of his to you trube without having it removed, then he can disappear and only those who are enraptured by the guy can go on feeling that way.

 

[jillian]

I still think the guy , Prince, was stupid. At least for trying to control his own media. I think that artists and groups who allow freedom of speech on the internet are only helping their fame. Unless it's a breakdown or drunken tirade. But the way Prince has effectively stopped postings of his songs and live performances doesn't make him into anything but an artist with a socialistic view in my opinion. So to the musical obscurity bin he goes.
Prince who?

he wrote, produced, played many if not most of the instruments on his albums and had enough financial success where he wasn't interested in record companies telling him he was releasing too much product from a commercial perspective.

not quite sure how that's "stupid"

He was so into control he wouldn't let people take pictures or cell phone videos of his performances. Why? What was he afraid of? I have said nothing in any way about his talent. Just his control issues.

well, whether you agree or not, we can agree that artists lose control of their image. and we all know how those images can be misused in the social media age. he didn't want people profiting off of him.

until not long ago, springsteen used to go after people who bootlegged his music. the dead, on the other hand, used to set up recording stations at their concerts for bootleggers. matter of personal preference.

 

[saveliberty]

Maybe I am missing something, but Prince played all the instruments on his first couple of albums, created a new sound, promoted several musicians into their own careers and had a whole state behind him as a beloved citizen. Doing all of this on his own terms is pretty remarkable.

 

[Markle]

But if he died because of drugs that's going to spark a national conversation that's already happening but it will get more attention. I know too many people who get refill after refill of vicitan and oxy and percs. We have a legal drug industry but what they are doing shouldn't be legal. People who don't need drugs are being given drugs. And some of them sell them to other people who don't need them. If you need more than one bottle you need to be in a hospital.

Well... We didn't have the conversation after Hendrix died, or Janis Joplin, or Elvis Presley, or Gram Parsons, or Kurt Cobain, or Michael Jackson.... why are we suddenly going to have it now? And what sort of conversation do you want to have? You want fascist-socialist big government in our medicine cabinets now? Are we going to lose more freedom because of your knee-jerk reactionism?

Hello? We didn't have such a "conversation" about Hendrix, Janis Joplin, Elvis, Gram Parsons or Kurt Cobain because we didn't have the social media and internet on every phone, in every home and office in the country either. Of course, there was a conversation about the vile, serial pedophile Michael Jackson.

 

[Alex.]

I still think the guy , Prince, was stupid. At least for trying to control his own media. I think that artists and groups who allow freedom of speech on the internet are only helping their fame. Unless it's a breakdown or drunken tirade. But the way Prince has effectively stopped postings of his songs and live performances doesn't make him into anything but an artist with a socialistic view in my opinion. So to the musical obscurity bin he goes.
Prince who?

he wrote, produced, played many if not most of the instruments on his albums and had enough financial success where he wasn't interested in record companies telling him he was releasing too much product from a commercial perspective.

not quite sure how that's "stupid"

He was so into control he wouldn't let people take pictures or cell phone videos of his performances. Why? What was he afraid of? I have said nothing in any way about his talent. Just his control issues.

Prince had issues with letting his music go without paying royalties. I cannot blame him who wants to work for nothing.

 

[JustAnotherNut]

His vocal range was in a completely different category than Micheal Jackson or Prince. As a singer, you have to put him in a rare group of people like Roy Orbison and Freddy Mercury. Prince and Jackson were more stylized R&B and not bad voices in their own right, but maybe not as much range as Presley, Orbison and Mercury.

If I understand you correctly, you're saying Elvis had more vocal range? I agree with most the rest of your post, except this. Prince did have much more range than any you mentioned.
Here, listen & see for yourself....He can hit the high notes as well as the deep and all in between

Just because any of the artists mentioned are jerks, perks or terks......doesn't mean their music was worthless.

Yes MJ was a perv, but up until the last few years, he was unstoppable. Same with Elvis, later he went to shit, but in the early & mid years he was huge, and on and on...

i largely agree with that.

i'm just not sure why a thread honoring a talented artist who died too young needs to devolve into a "but i like elvis" thread.

I didn't bring other artists into this conversation, I just replied.

 

[rcfieldz]

I still think the guy , Prince, was stupid. At least for trying to control his own media. I think that artists and groups who allow freedom of speech on the internet are only helping their fame. Unless it's a breakdown or drunken tirade. But the way Prince has effectively stopped postings of his songs and live performances doesn't make him into anything but an artist with a socialistic view in my opinion. So to the musical obscurity bin he goes.
Prince who?

he wrote, produced, played many if not most of the instruments on his albums and had enough financial success where he wasn't interested in record companies telling him he was releasing too much product from a commercial perspective.

not quite sure how that's "stupid"

He was so into control he wouldn't let people take pictures or cell phone videos of his performances. Why? What was he afraid of? I have said nothing in any way about his talent. Just his control issues.

Prince had issues with letting his music go without paying royalties. I cannot blame him who wants to work for nothing.

Money...yup figures.

 

[Alex.]

I still think the guy , Prince, was stupid. At least for trying to control his own media. I think that artists and groups who allow freedom of speech on the internet are only helping their fame. Unless it's a breakdown or drunken tirade. But the way Prince has effectively stopped postings of his songs and live performances doesn't make him into anything but an artist with a socialistic view in my opinion. So to the musical obscurity bin he goes.
Prince who?

he wrote, produced, played many if not most of the instruments on his albums and had enough financial success where he wasn't interested in record companies telling him he was releasing too much product from a commercial perspective.

not quite sure how that's "stupid"

He was so into control he wouldn't let people take pictures or cell phone videos of his performances. Why? What was he afraid of? I have said nothing in any way about his talent. Just his control issues.

Prince had issues with letting his music go without paying royalties. I cannot blame him who wants to work for nothing.

Money...yup figures.

Do you work for nothing?

 

[sealybobo]

I just can't get into anything pop culture. Who cares? It's like movies. I mention a movie I liked, and people go "on the one with so-and-so?"... and I sit there.. I have no idea.... It was a good flick. I couldn't care less who was in it. I don't pay attention to these people. Who has time to follow the entire life story of every idiot on stage? Who has time for that? Don't you have families or something? Kids? Job? Things to do with your wife or something?

Let me get this straight, you Elvis loving idiot......you don't have time to give a shit, but you come here and vent your who cares rant? Clearly you have some free time on your hands.....and the wife and kids are secondary at this point, eh?

Elvis is over rated. He is very dated and doesn't really hold up today. I'll show my kids hound dog and a few other good songs but Elvis is no Prince or Michael Jackson.

Elvis wasn't a songwriter... that's the biggest difference. He is famous because he was at the right place at the right time. He ushered in the rock-n-roll era with an amazing voice and dance moves that no white man had ever done before on stage. His music was controversial because of his gyrating and dancing but most of his songs were written by professional songwriters. Now, I do think this.. without Elvis, there may have never been a Michael Jackson or Prince. He made the sexually-suggestive dancing okay... broke down that barrier in modern contemporary music.

His vocal range was in a completely different category than Micheal Jackson or Prince. As a singer, you have to put him in a rare group of people like Roy Orbison and Freddy Mercury. Prince and Jackson were more stylized R&B and not bad voices in their own right, but maybe not as much range as Presley, Orbison and Mercury.

You were asking the other day about my Top 5 most influential artists of our time and I never got back to you on that.... here they are:

1. Bob Dylan -sheer longevity and lengthy body of work.
2. Elvis Presley -if he were a songwriter he'd be #1 hands down.
3. Michael Jackson -Influenced multiple generations of musicians.
4. Johnny Cash - Probably deserves to be ranked higher.
5. Prince - master of funk-pop-dance, excellent musician, songwriter and artist in general.

6-10 would include a lot of people who many would find missing in my Top 5. My personal choices are based on my opinion of the artist's entire body of work, the breadth of their talent as an artist and how much attributed influence or inspiration they've received from other musicians. The later being the most important aspect of all.

James Taylor, Beyonce, aerosmith, tupac Willie Nelson celine dion beatles. Who else? Name some other artists that would be in your top 20.

 

[sealybobo]

James browns another great

 

[skye]

James browns another great

sure

but not even close to Prince.

Prince wins it all!

 

[sealybobo]

James browns another great

sure

but not even close to Prince.

Prince wins it all!

Can't think of anyone greater. But I'd love to hear who people say is greater. Like some might say Aretha Franklin Stevey wonder or pearl jam.

 

[skye]

James browns another great

sure

but not even close to Prince.

Prince wins it all!

Can't think of anyone greater. But I'd love to hear who people say is greater. Like some might say Aretha Franklin Stevey wonder or pearl jam.

This time belongs to Prince..... he is the one

It's him now.

Prince...