Proclaiming Hillary received the most popular votes is HIGHLY overrated

[Iceweasel]

Only one president in the history of America ever got more votes than hillary. Know who? Obama

The population has grown since Reagan's day but he got a higher percent. obama never had the majority of votes, he got more than McCain and Romney. You left that part out.

 

[FJO]

How can you call the truth over rated? She won the popular vote. You can call it anything you like except a lie.

There's no such thing as a national popular vote. This isn't homogeneous America, it's the United STATES of America and in every state there is a POPULAR vote to determine who that state elects. The states elect the president and you get a say in how your state votes.

You safety pin crybabies can scream "unfair!" all you want, but it's perfectly fair.

The system is patently unfair.

The idea that your vote should have more value because your neighbor is a prairie dog instead of a person is absurdly unfair.

The Electoral College is affirmative action for states with sparse population.

If porch monkeys need help to level the playing field, so do "praierie dogs".

 

[Dr.Traveler]

Only one president in the history of America ever got more votes than hillary. Know who? Obama

The population has grown since Reagan's day but he got a higher percent. obama never had the majority of votes, he got more than McCain and Romney. You left that part out.

That's the part of all this that makes me really angry. We're down to about half of the people who can vote are actually voting. That's a damn tragedy. A lot of folks are dying every day to defend the rights of citizens in this country. A lot of folks died, killed by their fellow countrymen, to expand the right to vote to the entire population. Post 9/11, the President of the United States has unprecedented power and Congress has shown repeatedly they're not willing to check a President. The voting booth is the one real check on power and half the voters can't be bothered to go.

What the holy hell!

They weren't kidding when they said "Every nation gets the government it deserves." We are definitely getting that now.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Proclaiming that Hillary received more votes is simple-minded and not looking at the whole picture.

Most of the time the candidate that receives the most electoral votes, ALSO receives the most popular votes.
However, this doesn't have to be the case at all, and in fact it's now happened FIVE times where the electoral college winner did NOT receive the most popular votes.

As we all know the goal is to reach 270 electoral votes. All campaigns map out a strategy that gives them the best chance to reach that goal. The campaigns then concentrate most of their resources on the areas inside the map they've created.
States where the candidate has a very little chance of winning, will therefore mostly be ignored.
States where the candidate already is likely to win will simply be shored up, but will see fewer campaign visits, and fewer advertising dollars.
States that could easily swing either way, will be heavily attacked with a continual blitz of campaign rallies, and non-stop commercials being ran throughout the campaigning days.

Now If the goal was simply to receive the most overall votes, all campaigns would have MUCH DIFFERENT strategies if the electoral college wasn't involved.
States and cities that have large populations will be primarily concentrated on. These areas will see the overwhelming majority of a campaigns resources.

In the end, the final vote count would likely look different under the electoral college system versus a popular vote only system.

Popular vote isn't in the Constitution

actually while the republicans are ahead in all areas of the country

might be a good time to repeal the 17th amendment

they barely have a majority..... you might want to go back and look at how the constitution is amended. you're a very good argument for schools having civics courses again. maybe then you'd learn something.

but thanks for continuing to express your hatred for people who are smarter than you.

thanks for the headie explodie post

--LOL

now is a good chance to get the ball rolling more republican state legislatures then ever

most likely more to come if the dummycrats place ellison as the dnc chair

no really now is the time for states to take back their rights

And what do state legislatures do that's so important?

 

[NYcarbineer]

How can you call the truth over rated? She won the popular vote. You can call it anything you like except a lie.

There's no such thing as a national popular vote. This isn't homogeneous America, it's the United STATES of America and in every state there is a POPULAR vote to determine who that state elects. The states elect the president and you get a say in how your state votes.

You safety pin crybabies can scream "unfair!" all you want, but it's perfectly fair.

The system is patently unfair.

The idea that your vote should have more value because your neighbor is a prairie dog instead of a person is absurdly unfair.

The Electoral College is affirmative action for states with sparse population.

If porch monkeys need help to level the playing field, so do "praierie dogs".

Who are you referring to?

 

[Dr.Traveler]

Proclaiming that Hillary received more votes is simple-minded and not looking at the whole picture.

Most of the time the candidate that receives the most electoral votes, ALSO receives the most popular votes.
However, this doesn't have to be the case at all, and in fact it's now happened FIVE times where the electoral college winner did NOT receive the most popular votes.

As we all know the goal is to reach 270 electoral votes. All campaigns map out a strategy that gives them the best chance to reach that goal. The campaigns then concentrate most of their resources on the areas inside the map they've created.
States where the candidate has a very little chance of winning, will therefore mostly be ignored.
States where the candidate already is likely to win will simply be shored up, but will see fewer campaign visits, and fewer advertising dollars.
States that could easily swing either way, will be heavily attacked with a continual blitz of campaign rallies, and non-stop commercials being ran throughout the campaigning days.

Now If the goal was simply to receive the most overall votes, all campaigns would have MUCH DIFFERENT strategies if the electoral college wasn't involved.
States and cities that have large populations will be primarily concentrated on. These areas will see the overwhelming majority of a campaigns resources.

In the end, the final vote count would likely look different under the electoral college system versus a popular vote only system.

Popular vote isn't in the Constitution

actually while the republicans are ahead in all areas of the country

might be a good time to repeal the 17th amendment

they barely have a majority..... you might want to go back and look at how the constitution is amended. you're a very good argument for schools having civics courses again. maybe then you'd learn something.

but thanks for continuing to express your hatred for people who are smarter than you.

thanks for the headie explodie post

--LOL

now is a good chance to get the ball rolling more republican state legislatures then ever

most likely more to come if the dummycrats place ellison as the dnc chair

no really now is the time for states to take back their rights

And what do state legislatures do that's so important?

Redistricting. It's the secret reason the House remains GOP and why incumbents have such an advantage.

 

[NYcarbineer]

The founders made all sorts of major mistakes about who should or shouldn't vote.

Why the ironclad devotion to their idea for an electoral college?

 

[Iceweasel]

Only one president in the history of America ever got more votes than hillary. Know who? Obama

The population has grown since Reagan's day but he got a higher percent. obama never had the majority of votes, he got more than McCain and Romney. You left that part out.

That's the part of all this that makes me really angry. We're down to about half of the people who can vote are actually voting. That's a damn tragedy. A lot of folks are dying every day to defend the rights of citizens in this country. A lot of folks died, killed by their fellow countrymen, to expand the right to vote to the entire population. Post 9/11, the President of the United States has unprecedented power and Congress has shown repeatedly they're not willing to check a President. The voting booth is the one real check on power and half the voters can't be bothered to go.

What the holy hell!

They weren't kidding when they said "Every nation gets the government it deserves." We are definitely getting that now.

Expand the right to vote? Since blacks? That's going back a ways. About half of eligible people voting is fairly normal as far as I recall.

Voting Turnout Statistics - Statistic Brain
Top Reasons Cited for Not Voting

Too busy, conflicting schedule 17.5 %
Illness or disability 14.9 %
Not interested 13.4 %
Did not like candidates or campaign issues 12.9 %
Other 11.3 %
Out of town 8.8 %
Don't know 7 %
Registration problems 6 %
Inconvenient polling place 2.7 %
Transportation problems 2.6 %
Forgot 2.6 %
Bad weather 0.2 %

 

[Iceweasel]

Popular vote isn't in the Constitution

actually while the republicans are ahead in all areas of the country

might be a good time to repeal the 17th amendment

they barely have a majority..... you might want to go back and look at how the constitution is amended. you're a very good argument for schools having civics courses again. maybe then you'd learn something.

but thanks for continuing to express your hatred for people who are smarter than you.

thanks for the headie explodie post

--LOL

now is a good chance to get the ball rolling more republican state legislatures then ever

most likely more to come if the dummycrats place ellison as the dnc chair

no really now is the time for states to take back their rights

And what do state legislatures do that's so important?

Redistricting. It's the secret reason the House remains GOP and why incumbents have such an advantage.

Wow, they must have done a good job, seen the election results map?

 

[Iceweasel]

The founders made all sorts of major mistakes about who should or shouldn't vote.

Why the ironclad devotion to their idea for an electoral college?

It's been discussed here for over a week. Do you read the board or just post?

 

[NYcarbineer]

actually while the republicans are ahead in all areas of the country

might be a good time to repeal the 17th amendment

they barely have a majority..... you might want to go back and look at how the constitution is amended. you're a very good argument for schools having civics courses again. maybe then you'd learn something.

but thanks for continuing to express your hatred for people who are smarter than you.

thanks for the headie explodie post

--LOL

now is a good chance to get the ball rolling more republican state legislatures then ever

most likely more to come if the dummycrats place ellison as the dnc chair

no really now is the time for states to take back their rights

And what do state legislatures do that's so important?

Redistricting. It's the secret reason the House remains GOP and why incumbents have such an advantage.

Wow, they must have done a good job, seen the election results map?

Gerrymandering is not a term of endearment.

 

[Iceweasel]

they barely have a majority..... you might want to go back and look at how the constitution is amended. you're a very good argument for schools having civics courses again. maybe then you'd learn something.

but thanks for continuing to express your hatred for people who are smarter than you.

thanks for the headie explodie post

--LOL

now is a good chance to get the ball rolling more republican state legislatures then ever

most likely more to come if the dummycrats place ellison as the dnc chair

no really now is the time for states to take back their rights

And what do state legislatures do that's so important?

Redistricting. It's the secret reason the House remains GOP and why incumbents have such an advantage.

Wow, they must have done a good job, seen the election results map?

Gerrymandering is not a term of endearment.

You didn't answer the question.

 

[Meathead]

Only one president in the history of America ever got more votes than hillary. Know who? Obama

The population has grown since Reagan's day but he got a higher percent. obama never had the majority of votes, he got more than McCain and Romney. You left that part out.

That's the part of all this that makes me really angry. We're down to about half of the people who can vote are actually voting. That's a damn tragedy. A lot of folks are dying every day to defend the rights of citizens in this country. A lot of folks died, killed by their fellow countrymen, to expand the right to vote to the entire population. Post 9/11, the President of the United States has unprecedented power and Congress has shown repeatedly they're not willing to check a President. The voting booth is the one real check on power and half the voters can't be bothered to go.

What the holy hell!

They weren't kidding when they said "Every nation gets the government it deserves." We are definitely getting that now.

I don't get it. When Obama was president we had a government we didn't deserve? And, presumably of course, if Hillary had won the case would be the same?

 

[PoliticalChic]

How can you call the truth over rated? She won the popular vote. You can call it anything you like except a lie.

At the moment she has less than .5% more of the pv, and they haven't all been counted. Since the election was not fought on the basis of securing the PV, as pointed out by OP, it is meaningless.

Here, have some Play Doh:

View attachment 98697

"Three million votes in the U.S. presidential election were cast by illegal aliens, according to Greg Phillips of the VoteFraud.org organization.

If true, this would mean that Donald Trump still won the contest despite widespread vote fraud and almost certainly won the popular vote.

“We have verified more than three million votes cast by non-citizens,” tweeted Phillips after reporting that the group had completed an analysis of a database of 180 million voter registrations."
Report: Three Million Votes in Presidential Election Cast by Illegal Aliens

 

[sealybobo]

Only one president in the history of America ever got more votes than hillary. Know who? Obama

The population has grown since Reagan's day but he got a higher percent. obama never had the majority of votes, he got more than McCain and Romney. You left that part out.

What? Obama never got the majority of votes? Sure he did.

 

[jon_berzerk]

Proclaiming that Hillary received more votes is simple-minded and not looking at the whole picture.

Most of the time the candidate that receives the most electoral votes, ALSO receives the most popular votes.
However, this doesn't have to be the case at all, and in fact it's now happened FIVE times where the electoral college winner did NOT receive the most popular votes.

As we all know the goal is to reach 270 electoral votes. All campaigns map out a strategy that gives them the best chance to reach that goal. The campaigns then concentrate most of their resources on the areas inside the map they've created.
States where the candidate has a very little chance of winning, will therefore mostly be ignored.
States where the candidate already is likely to win will simply be shored up, but will see fewer campaign visits, and fewer advertising dollars.
States that could easily swing either way, will be heavily attacked with a continual blitz of campaign rallies, and non-stop commercials being ran throughout the campaigning days.

Now If the goal was simply to receive the most overall votes, all campaigns would have MUCH DIFFERENT strategies if the electoral college wasn't involved.
States and cities that have large populations will be primarily concentrated on. These areas will see the overwhelming majority of a campaigns resources.

In the end, the final vote count would likely look different under the electoral college system versus a popular vote only system.

Popular vote isn't in the Constitution

actually while the republicans are ahead in all areas of the country

might be a good time to repeal the 17th amendment

they barely have a majority..... you might want to go back and look at how the constitution is amended. you're a very good argument for schools having civics courses again. maybe then you'd learn something.

but thanks for continuing to express your hatred for people who are smarter than you.

thanks for the headie explodie post

--LOL

now is a good chance to get the ball rolling more republican state legislatures then ever

most likely more to come if the dummycrats place ellison as the dnc chair

no really now is the time for states to take back their rights

And what do state legislatures do that's so important?

are you really that stupid really --LOL

they ratify the amendment asshole

--LOL

Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States

Constitutional Amendments - How is the Constitution amended?

 

[TheDude]

Let's not take away the liberal booby prize. Everyone is a winner and it's only fair. Hillary "won" the "popular" vote.

 

[jon_berzerk]

Let's not take away the liberal booby prize. Everyone is a winner and it's only fair. Hillary "won" the "popular" vote.

--LOL

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Good Job, Democrats!!


Lol!

 

[jon_berzerk]

Good Job, Democrats!!


Lol!

--LOL

six more state legislatures to go

--LOL