Proof That The Right Has Truth On Its Side

[ThoughtCrimes]

Gee-----I am amazed. I grew up in a SOLIDLY republican town-------and SOLIDLY NAZI -----in the 50s. Demos were the Nazi supporters? Since
when? I have never met a HOLOCAUST DENYING DEMOCRAT-----here---
in the NORTH EAST USA----------I think this sort of stuff is regional.
Like in the south and WEST-------one can be simultaneously democrat----
claim LIBERTARIAN and also be a Nazi I do not ascribe to the
LEFT VS RIGHT thing

Let's keep the record straight:

My contention is that Nazis and Fascists are just as much Leftists as Communists and Socialists.

The aims and methods are consubstantial.....and differ only in degree.





Write this down, laminate it for your wallet...and memorize it:
Communism, Socialism, Nazism, Modern Liberalism, Progressivism, and Fascism are all Leftists political doctrines.....

...not a rightwing credenda among 'em.


Rightwing?
This:
Defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom, and recognition that the individual as the most important element of society.

Can I get an 'amen'?

Oh----ok ------that is where you go wrong. ------but, AGAIN---the issue may be
where you go wrong. In the region in which I grew up in the USA------being a
DEMOCRAT meant------"probably a minority group member" -----"pro union"
"anti Mc Carthy" "not anti feeding the poor" "might be accused of being a
"n*&&er lover" or "joo lover"-----by the local wasps and not eligible to join the
local restricted Golf club.

I admit that the groups did change character in the 1960s -------when HIPPIES
blurred the lines and became totalitarian supporters of characters like POL POT----
but voted democrat

I've never gone wrong.

This is my contention, and the fact:
My contention is that Nazis and Fascists are just as much Leftists as Communists and Socialists.

The aims and methods are consubstantial.....and differ only in degree.


The problem was exacerbated in the 60s but began far earlier.


Progressives, Liberals, Democrats authorized the idea of a 'Master Race' long before Hitler did.
...:"the Master Race."

It brings the Nazis to mind.
And it was the plan at the heart of Progressivism, as well.


".... the American experience with eugenics, the “policy science” of creating a master race.
.... it was all the rage in the Progressive Era. Eugenicswas not a fringe movement; it was at the core ofruling-class politics, education, and culture. It was responsible for many of the early experiments in labor regulation. It was the driving force behind marriage licenses,minimum wages,restrictions on opportunities for women, and immigration quotas and controls.

The more I’ve looked into the subject, the more I’m convinced that it is not possible fully to understand the birth of the 20th century Leviathan without an awareness of eugenics. Eugenics was the original sin of the modern state that knows no limits to its power."
Why the Holocaust Should Matter to You | Jeffrey Tucker




Fact is, the Nazis learned eugenics from the American Progressives...

"Only after eugenics became entrenched in the United States was the campaign transplanted into Germany, in no small measure through the efforts of California eugenicists, who published booklets idealizing sterilization and circulated them to German official and scientists.

Hitler studied American eugenics laws....
Hitler proudly told his comrades just how closely he followed the progress of the American eugenics movement. "I have studied with great interest," he told a fellow Nazi, "the laws of several American states concerning prevention of reproduction by people whose progeny would, in all probability, be of no value or be injurious to the racial stock."
The Horrifying American Roots of Nazi Eugenics



Hitler wrote to the president of the American Eugenics Society to ask for a copy of his“The Case for Sterilization.”
(Margaret Sanger and Sterilization)

German race science stood on American progressive’s shoulders.


Do you need me to provide the quote where Bill's wife demands to be called a 'Progressive'?


Let's hear no more nonsense about Nazism being rightwing.

yeah yeah yeah--------all the VERY GOOD REASONS that I object to the
RIGHT VS LEFT designations --------they SHIFT incessantly-----such
usages DESCRIBE NOTHING ------one might as well discuss RIGHT HANDED
PERSONS vs LEFT HANDED PERSONS---

You can object all you like...but you would be wrong.

I will not allow the slander that Nazis and Fascists are rightwing.

1. Hey Chica, just who the Hell are you to disallow any damn thing on this message board. You have no authority over anyone using this forum!

2. Chica, you ignorant twit, slander is a SPOKEN defamatory remark and libel is a WRITTEN defamatory remark! EVERYTHING is WRITTEN on this board. Learn the difference between the two when WRITING in English. When do you get out of Jr. High Chica?

3. Chica, in spite of your revisionist history, Nazis were fascists, Nazis were rightwing and fascists were right-wing. Who would be a better source to judge that than those who suffered so much at their hands:

"The government of Nazi Germany was a fascist, totalitarian state. Totalitarian regimes, in contrast to a dictatorship, establish complete political, social, and cultural control over their subjects, and are usually headed by a charismatic leader. Fascism is a form of right-wing totalitarianism which emphasizes the subordination of the individual to advance the interests of the state. Nazi fascism’s ideology included a racial theory which denigrated “non-Aryans,” extreme nationalism which called for the unification of all German-speaking peoples, the use of private paramilitary organizations to stifle dissent and terrorize opposition, and the centralization of decision-making by, and loyalty to, a single leader."
< Nazi Fascism and the Modern Totalitarian State | >

That's three strikes, Chica! Have a Nice Day!

 

[irosie91]

Let's keep the record straight:

My contention is that Nazis and Fascists are just as much Leftists as Communists and Socialists.

The aims and methods are consubstantial.....and differ only in degree.





Write this down, laminate it for your wallet...and memorize it:
Communism, Socialism, Nazism, Modern Liberalism, Progressivism, and Fascism are all Leftists political doctrines.....

...not a rightwing credenda among 'em.


Rightwing?
This:
Defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom, and recognition that the individual as the most important element of society.

Can I get an 'amen'?

Oh----ok ------that is where you go wrong. ------but, AGAIN---the issue may be
where you go wrong. In the region in which I grew up in the USA------being a
DEMOCRAT meant------"probably a minority group member" -----"pro union"
"anti Mc Carthy" "not anti feeding the poor" "might be accused of being a
"n*&&er lover" or "joo lover"-----by the local wasps and not eligible to join the
local restricted Golf club.

I admit that the groups did change character in the 1960s -------when HIPPIES
blurred the lines and became totalitarian supporters of characters like POL POT----
but voted democrat

I've never gone wrong.

This is my contention, and the fact:
My contention is that Nazis and Fascists are just as much Leftists as Communists and Socialists.

The aims and methods are consubstantial.....and differ only in degree.


The problem was exacerbated in the 60s but began far earlier.


Progressives, Liberals, Democrats authorized the idea of a 'Master Race' long before Hitler did.
...:"the Master Race."

It brings the Nazis to mind.
And it was the plan at the heart of Progressivism, as well.


".... the American experience with eugenics, the “policy science” of creating a master race.
.... it was all the rage in the Progressive Era. Eugenicswas not a fringe movement; it was at the core ofruling-class politics, education, and culture. It was responsible for many of the early experiments in labor regulation. It was the driving force behind marriage licenses,minimum wages,restrictions on opportunities for women, and immigration quotas and controls.

The more I’ve looked into the subject, the more I’m convinced that it is not possible fully to understand the birth of the 20th century Leviathan without an awareness of eugenics. Eugenics was the original sin of the modern state that knows no limits to its power."
Why the Holocaust Should Matter to You | Jeffrey Tucker




Fact is, the Nazis learned eugenics from the American Progressives...

"Only after eugenics became entrenched in the United States was the campaign transplanted into Germany, in no small measure through the efforts of California eugenicists, who published booklets idealizing sterilization and circulated them to German official and scientists.

Hitler studied American eugenics laws....
Hitler proudly told his comrades just how closely he followed the progress of the American eugenics movement. "I have studied with great interest," he told a fellow Nazi, "the laws of several American states concerning prevention of reproduction by people whose progeny would, in all probability, be of no value or be injurious to the racial stock."
The Horrifying American Roots of Nazi Eugenics



Hitler wrote to the president of the American Eugenics Society to ask for a copy of his“The Case for Sterilization.”
(Margaret Sanger and Sterilization)

German race science stood on American progressive’s shoulders.


Do you need me to provide the quote where Bill's wife demands to be called a 'Progressive'?


Let's hear no more nonsense about Nazism being rightwing.

yeah yeah yeah--------all the VERY GOOD REASONS that I object to the
RIGHT VS LEFT designations --------they SHIFT incessantly-----such
usages DESCRIBE NOTHING ------one might as well discuss RIGHT HANDED
PERSONS vs LEFT HANDED PERSONS---

You can object all you like...but you would be wrong.

I will not allow the slander that Nazis and Fascists are rightwing.

1. Hey Chica, just who the Hell are you to disallow any damn thing on this message board. You have no authority over anyone using this forum!

2. Chica, you ignorant twit, slander is a SPOKEN defamatory remark and libel is a WRITTEN defamatory remark! EVERYTHING is WRITTEN on this board. Learn the difference between the two when WRITING in English. When do you get out of Jr. High Chica?

3. Chica, in spite of your revisionist history, Nazis were fascists, Nazis were rightwing and fascists were right-wing. Who would be a better source to judge that than those who suffered so much at their hands:

"The government of Nazi Germany was a fascist, totalitarian state. Totalitarian regimes, in contrast to a dictatorship, establish complete political, social, and cultural control over their subjects, and are usually headed by a charismatic leader. Fascism is a form of right-wing totalitarianism which emphasizes the subordination of the individual to advance the interests of the state. Nazi fascism’s ideology included a racial theory which denigrated “non-Aryans,” extreme nationalism which called for the unification of all German-speaking peoples, the use of private paramilitary organizations to stifle dissent and terrorize opposition, and the centralization of decision-making by, and loyalty to, a single leader."
< Nazi Fascism and the Modern Totalitarian State | >

That's three strikes, Chica! Have a Nice Day!

calm down sailor-chico------this discussion has been one of SEMANTICS-----
****DIFFERENT LINGO FOR DIFFERENT CHIQUITAS*****

your say east---west hot----cold Yankee ---Dixie dem ---repub
black ---white up---down =======IT's ALL ""RELATIVE"""

 

[ThoughtCrimes]

Oh----ok ------that is where you go wrong. ------but, AGAIN---the issue may be
where you go wrong. In the region in which I grew up in the USA------being a
DEMOCRAT meant------"probably a minority group member" -----"pro union"
"anti Mc Carthy" "not anti feeding the poor" "might be accused of being a
"n*&&er lover" or "joo lover"-----by the local wasps and not eligible to join the
local restricted Golf club.

I admit that the groups did change character in the 1960s -------when HIPPIES
blurred the lines and became totalitarian supporters of characters like POL POT----
but voted democrat

I've never gone wrong.

This is my contention, and the fact:
My contention is that Nazis and Fascists are just as much Leftists as Communists and Socialists.

The aims and methods are consubstantial.....and differ only in degree.


The problem was exacerbated in the 60s but began far earlier.


Progressives, Liberals, Democrats authorized the idea of a 'Master Race' long before Hitler did.
...:"the Master Race."

It brings the Nazis to mind.
And it was the plan at the heart of Progressivism, as well.


".... the American experience with eugenics, the “policy science” of creating a master race.
.... it was all the rage in the Progressive Era. Eugenicswas not a fringe movement; it was at the core ofruling-class politics, education, and culture. It was responsible for many of the early experiments in labor regulation. It was the driving force behind marriage licenses,minimum wages,restrictions on opportunities for women, and immigration quotas and controls.

The more I’ve looked into the subject, the more I’m convinced that it is not possible fully to understand the birth of the 20th century Leviathan without an awareness of eugenics. Eugenics was the original sin of the modern state that knows no limits to its power."
Why the Holocaust Should Matter to You | Jeffrey Tucker




Fact is, the Nazis learned eugenics from the American Progressives...

"Only after eugenics became entrenched in the United States was the campaign transplanted into Germany, in no small measure through the efforts of California eugenicists, who published booklets idealizing sterilization and circulated them to German official and scientists.

Hitler studied American eugenics laws....
Hitler proudly told his comrades just how closely he followed the progress of the American eugenics movement. "I have studied with great interest," he told a fellow Nazi, "the laws of several American states concerning prevention of reproduction by people whose progeny would, in all probability, be of no value or be injurious to the racial stock."
The Horrifying American Roots of Nazi Eugenics



Hitler wrote to the president of the American Eugenics Society to ask for a copy of his“The Case for Sterilization.”
(Margaret Sanger and Sterilization)

German race science stood on American progressive’s shoulders.


Do you need me to provide the quote where Bill's wife demands to be called a 'Progressive'?


Let's hear no more nonsense about Nazism being rightwing.

yeah yeah yeah--------all the VERY GOOD REASONS that I object to the
RIGHT VS LEFT designations --------they SHIFT incessantly-----such
usages DESCRIBE NOTHING ------one might as well discuss RIGHT HANDED
PERSONS vs LEFT HANDED PERSONS---

You can object all you like...but you would be wrong.

I will not allow the slander that Nazis and Fascists are rightwing.

1. Hey Chica, just who the Hell are you to disallow any damn thing on this message board. You have no authority over anyone using this forum!

2. Chica, you ignorant twit, slander is a SPOKEN defamatory remark and libel is a WRITTEN defamatory remark! EVERYTHING is WRITTEN on this board. Learn the difference between the two when WRITING in English. When do you get out of Jr. High Chica?

3. Chica, in spite of your revisionist history, Nazis were fascists, Nazis were rightwing and fascists were right-wing. Who would be a better source to judge that than those who suffered so much at their hands:

"The government of Nazi Germany was a fascist, totalitarian state. Totalitarian regimes, in contrast to a dictatorship, establish complete political, social, and cultural control over their subjects, and are usually headed by a charismatic leader. Fascism is a form of right-wing totalitarianism which emphasizes the subordination of the individual to advance the interests of the state. Nazi fascism’s ideology included a racial theory which denigrated “non-Aryans,” extreme nationalism which called for the unification of all German-speaking peoples, the use of private paramilitary organizations to stifle dissent and terrorize opposition, and the centralization of decision-making by, and loyalty to, a single leader."
< Nazi Fascism and the Modern Totalitarian State | >

That's three strikes, Chica! Have a Nice Day!

calm down sailor-chico------this discussion has been one of SEMANTICS-----
****DIFFERENT LINGO FOR DIFFERENT CHIQUITAS*****

your say east---west hot----cold Yankee ---Dixie dem ---repub
black ---white up---down =======IT's ALL ""RELATIVE"""

Well you continue to have your own discussion with the chica, and I'll continue to have my own with Chica. I would think that's fair dinkum!

 

[Camp]

You forgot to mention which of these you found untrue:

1. "Intense verbal attacks on police officers labeling them racists who hunt down young black men.

2. A porous southern border where narcotics and human smuggling continue unabated.

3. A stagnant economy where workers have little bargaining power.

4. A growing jihadist terror threat that the Democratic Party refuses to define...not even using the words 'Islamic Terrorism'

5. A Democratic President who, after he announces the beheading of an American citizen by ISIS, goes out to play golf.




6. A culture that now demands political correctness even if it goes against sincerely held religious beliefs.

7. A legal system that may actually harm a business owner if he or she refuses to participate in a gay marriage, or Catholic nuns who don't want to distribute birth control.

8. A press corp that embraces Liberalism and uses its constitutional privilege to diminish non-Liberals who have the temerity to speak out.

9. An education system dominated by Leftist teachers and administrators who impose their view of the world on defenseless children.

10. And a grievance industry promoted by the media thus allowing anti-American zealots to define this country as evil and oppressive, i.e., that America is the real problem in the world."

All of them are either untrue or distortions.
Number #1 is false because it insinuates law enforcement as a whole is being attacked. Limited and selected incidents are being publicized and protested. The numerous indictments, prosecutions, and convictions of bad cops is proof that there is cause for demanding justice regarding unjustified police killings of citizens. The comment qualifies as a distortion and of being factually incorrect. When you pin a large and inclusive group to a comment or comments made by a few random people, you create a misleading distortion.

 

[irosie91]

I've never gone wrong.

This is my contention, and the fact:
My contention is that Nazis and Fascists are just as much Leftists as Communists and Socialists.

The aims and methods are consubstantial.....and differ only in degree.


The problem was exacerbated in the 60s but began far earlier.


Progressives, Liberals, Democrats authorized the idea of a 'Master Race' long before Hitler did.
...:"the Master Race."

It brings the Nazis to mind.
And it was the plan at the heart of Progressivism, as well.


".... the American experience with eugenics, the “policy science” of creating a master race.
.... it was all the rage in the Progressive Era. Eugenicswas not a fringe movement; it was at the core ofruling-class politics, education, and culture. It was responsible for many of the early experiments in labor regulation. It was the driving force behind marriage licenses,minimum wages,restrictions on opportunities for women, and immigration quotas and controls.

The more I’ve looked into the subject, the more I’m convinced that it is not possible fully to understand the birth of the 20th century Leviathan without an awareness of eugenics. Eugenics was the original sin of the modern state that knows no limits to its power."
Why the Holocaust Should Matter to You | Jeffrey Tucker




Fact is, the Nazis learned eugenics from the American Progressives...

"Only after eugenics became entrenched in the United States was the campaign transplanted into Germany, in no small measure through the efforts of California eugenicists, who published booklets idealizing sterilization and circulated them to German official and scientists.

Hitler studied American eugenics laws....
Hitler proudly told his comrades just how closely he followed the progress of the American eugenics movement. "I have studied with great interest," he told a fellow Nazi, "the laws of several American states concerning prevention of reproduction by people whose progeny would, in all probability, be of no value or be injurious to the racial stock."
The Horrifying American Roots of Nazi Eugenics



Hitler wrote to the president of the American Eugenics Society to ask for a copy of his“The Case for Sterilization.”
(Margaret Sanger and Sterilization)

German race science stood on American progressive’s shoulders.


Do you need me to provide the quote where Bill's wife demands to be called a 'Progressive'?


Let's hear no more nonsense about Nazism being rightwing.

yeah yeah yeah--------all the VERY GOOD REASONS that I object to the
RIGHT VS LEFT designations --------they SHIFT incessantly-----such
usages DESCRIBE NOTHING ------one might as well discuss RIGHT HANDED
PERSONS vs LEFT HANDED PERSONS---

You can object all you like...but you would be wrong.

I will not allow the slander that Nazis and Fascists are rightwing.

1. Hey Chica, just who the Hell are you to disallow any damn thing on this message board. You have no authority over anyone using this forum!

2. Chica, you ignorant twit, slander is a SPOKEN defamatory remark and libel is a WRITTEN defamatory remark! EVERYTHING is WRITTEN on this board. Learn the difference between the two when WRITING in English. When do you get out of Jr. High Chica?

3. Chica, in spite of your revisionist history, Nazis were fascists, Nazis were rightwing and fascists were right-wing. Who would be a better source to judge that than those who suffered so much at their hands:

"The government of Nazi Germany was a fascist, totalitarian state. Totalitarian regimes, in contrast to a dictatorship, establish complete political, social, and cultural control over their subjects, and are usually headed by a charismatic leader. Fascism is a form of right-wing totalitarianism which emphasizes the subordination of the individual to advance the interests of the state. Nazi fascism’s ideology included a racial theory which denigrated “non-Aryans,” extreme nationalism which called for the unification of all German-speaking peoples, the use of private paramilitary organizations to stifle dissent and terrorize opposition, and the centralization of decision-making by, and loyalty to, a single leader."
< Nazi Fascism and the Modern Totalitarian State | >

That's three strikes, Chica! Have a Nice Day!

calm down sailor-chico------this discussion has been one of SEMANTICS-----
****DIFFERENT LINGO FOR DIFFERENT CHIQUITAS*****

your say east---west hot----cold Yankee ---Dixie dem ---repub
black ---white up---down =======IT's ALL ""RELATIVE"""

Well you continue to have your own discussion with the chica, and I'll continue to have my own with Chica. I would think that's fair dinkum!

ok -----AS YOU WERE, sailor........CARRY ON.....

 

[Camp]

You forgot to mention which of these you found untrue:

1. "Intense verbal attacks on police officers labeling them racists who hunt down young black men.

2. A porous southern border where narcotics and human smuggling continue unabated.

3. A stagnant economy where workers have little bargaining power.

4. A growing jihadist terror threat that the Democratic Party refuses to define...not even using the words 'Islamic Terrorism'

5. A Democratic President who, after he announces the beheading of an American citizen by ISIS, goes out to play golf.




6. A culture that now demands political correctness even if it goes against sincerely held religious beliefs.

7. A legal system that may actually harm a business owner if he or she refuses to participate in a gay marriage, or Catholic nuns who don't want to distribute birth control.

8. A press corp that embraces Liberalism and uses its constitutional privilege to diminish non-Liberals who have the temerity to speak out.

9. An education system dominated by Leftist teachers and administrators who impose their view of the world on defenseless children.

10. And a grievance industry promoted by the media thus allowing anti-American zealots to define this country as evil and oppressive, i.e., that America is the real problem in the world."

#2 is factually incorrect because of the use of the word "unabated". Not only is it factually untrue, it is an insult to the men and women who serve us on the border and ignores the progress they have made in the last seven years.

 

[Camp]

[QUOTE="PoliticalChic, post: 13732601, member: 1


You forgot to mention which of these you found untrue:

1. "Intense verbal attacks on police officers labeling them racists who hunt down young black men.

2. A porous southern border where narcotics and human smuggling continue unabated.

3. A stagnant economy where workers have little bargaining power.
[/QUOTE]


#3 The economy is not stagnant. That is just a plain lie. Maybe in your opinion, it has not improved enough, but that does not interpret into "stagnant". As far as workers losing bargaining power, that can be blamed on the Senate refusing to advise and consent to nominees to head the agencies tasked with protecting workers.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

"Proof That The Right Has Truth On Its Side"

Actually, this thread's premise is proof that it doesn't.

In fact, conservatives and the truth have never been so far apart.

 

[Camp]

4. A growing jihadist terror threat that the Democratic Party refuses to define...not even using the words 'Islamic Terrorism'

One of insidious and insulting of your untrue claims. Because the administration chooses not to use a term that is viewed as insulting and unfair to the global Islamic community you find it as relevant to the war our military is waging, giving no credit to the importance of diplomatic and coalition benefits of not using your preferred term.
Now explain how an enemy being defeated on the battlefield is a "growing threat". Still a significant threat, but your used the word "growing".

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

no thanks----BROAD GENERALIZATIONS -----east is east and west is west and
never the twain shall meet------are IDIOT PLATITUDES.

Stalin was left and Adolf was right----------your universe makes no sense

Wrong again.

Stalin and Hitler were both Leftists.

Please don't take away their hopes that Hitler was right. They hold on to those stories much like others do of Loch Ness and Bigfoot.

Hitler was a conservative.

Hitler was as much a conservative as he was a supporter of the Jewish culture. You can hang on to your stories all you want, it wont make them true.

Didn't he support a strong military? Didn't he hate pacifism?

Are those liberal traits?

He developed a strong military because he believed he was part of the Third Reich. I'd be quite surprised if you know what was representative by that term, and what Hitler believed by referring to Nazi Germany as such.

 

[irosie91]

Wrong again.

Stalin and Hitler were both Leftists.

Please don't take away their hopes that Hitler was right. They hold on to those stories much like others do of Loch Ness and Bigfoot.

Hitler was a conservative.

Hitler was as much a conservative as he was a supporter of the Jewish culture. You can hang on to your stories all you want, it wont make them true.

Didn't he support a strong military? Didn't he hate pacifism?

Are those liberal traits?

He developed a strong military because he believed he was part of the Third Reich. I'd be quite surprised if you know what was representative by that term, and what Hitler believed by referring to Nazi Germany as such.

somehow----you show up in 'alerts" are responding to me (???) (rosie)
Reich refers to THE HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE. The emperor of the FIRST
REICH WAS CONSTANTINE. ----- HITLER of the "royal house" OF
CONSTANTINE------ (oy vey ) I bet you do not know who authored the first
version of the NUREMBURG LAWS

 

[daws101]

Wrong again.

Stalin and Hitler were both Leftists.

Please don't take away their hopes that Hitler was right. They hold on to those stories much like others do of Loch Ness and Bigfoot.

Hitler was a conservative.

Hitler was as much a conservative as he was a supporter of the Jewish culture. You can hang on to your stories all you want, it wont make them true.

Didn't he support a strong military? Didn't he hate pacifism?

Are those liberal traits?

He developed a strong military because he believed he was part of the Third Reich. I'd be quite surprised if you know what was representative by that term, and what Hitler believed by referring to Nazi Germany as such.

Could you make any less sense!

 

[Dale Smith]

You forgot to mention which of these you found untrue:

1. "Intense verbal attacks on police officers labeling them racists who hunt down young black men.

2. A porous southern border where narcotics and human smuggling continue unabated.

3. A stagnant economy where workers have little bargaining power.

4. A growing jihadist terror threat that the Democratic Party refuses to define...not even using the words 'Islamic Terrorism'

5. A Democratic President who, after he announces the beheading of an American citizen by ISIS, goes out to play golf.




6. A culture that now demands political correctness even if it goes against sincerely held religious beliefs.

7. A legal system that may actually harm a business owner if he or she refuses to participate in a gay marriage, or Catholic nuns who don't want to distribute birth control.

8. A press corp that embraces Liberalism and uses its constitutional privilege to diminish non-Liberals who have the temerity to speak out.

9. An education system dominated by Leftist teachers and administrators who impose their view of the world on defenseless children.

10. And a grievance industry promoted by the media thus allowing anti-American zealots to define this country as evil and oppressive, i.e., that America is the real problem in the world."

All of them are either untrue or distortions.
Number #1 is false because it insinuates law enforcement as a whole is being attacked. Limited and selected incidents are being publicized and protested. The numerous indictments, prosecutions, and convictions of bad cops is proof that there is cause for demanding justice regarding unjustified police killings of citizens. The comment qualifies as a distortion and of being factually incorrect. When you pin a large and inclusive group to a comment or comments made by a few random people, you create a misleading distortion.

Sorry, Camp....but whomever wrote that knocked your dick in the dirt and your lame tactic of simply attacking one of the issues (and even that was lame) just exposes you for being the limp-wristed Fabian socialist that you are. You and your kind are nothing but useful idiots to the globalists that use you like a cheap hooker. Fact!

 

[Camp]

You forgot to mention which of these you found untrue:

1. "Intense verbal attacks on police officers labeling them racists who hunt down young black men.

2. A porous southern border where narcotics and human smuggling continue unabated.

3. A stagnant economy where workers have little bargaining power.

4. A growing jihadist terror threat that the Democratic Party refuses to define...not even using the words 'Islamic Terrorism'

5. A Democratic President who, after he announces the beheading of an American citizen by ISIS, goes out to play golf.




6. A culture that now demands political correctness even if it goes against sincerely held religious beliefs.

7. A legal system that may actually harm a business owner if he or she refuses to participate in a gay marriage, or Catholic nuns who don't want to distribute birth control.

8. A press corp that embraces Liberalism and uses its constitutional privilege to diminish non-Liberals who have the temerity to speak out.

9. An education system dominated by Leftist teachers and administrators who impose their view of the world on defenseless children.

10. And a grievance industry promoted by the media thus allowing anti-American zealots to define this country as evil and oppressive, i.e., that America is the real problem in the world."

All of them are either untrue or distortions.
Number #1 is false because it insinuates law enforcement as a whole is being attacked. Limited and selected incidents are being publicized and protested. The numerous indictments, prosecutions, and convictions of bad cops is proof that there is cause for demanding justice regarding unjustified police killings of citizens. The comment qualifies as a distortion and of being factually incorrect. When you pin a large and inclusive group to a comment or comments made by a few random people, you create a misleading distortion.

Sorry, Camp....but whomever wrote that knocked your dick in the dirt and your lame tactic of simply attacking one of the issues (and even that was lame) just exposes you for being the limp-wristed Fabian socialist that you are. You and your kind are nothing but useful idiots to the globalists that use you like a cheap hooker. Fact!

OK, after the lecture, did you find anything specifically inaccurate or refutations in my comment or any of the ones that followed? I followed the post you quoted with a critique of three more of the ten listed by PC for a total of four of them. I figured I would wait to get specific challenges before going on to the other six.

 

[Dale Smith]

You forgot to mention which of these you found untrue:

1. "Intense verbal attacks on police officers labeling them racists who hunt down young black men.

2. A porous southern border where narcotics and human smuggling continue unabated.

3. A stagnant economy where workers have little bargaining power.

4. A growing jihadist terror threat that the Democratic Party refuses to define...not even using the words 'Islamic Terrorism'

5. A Democratic President who, after he announces the beheading of an American citizen by ISIS, goes out to play golf.




6. A culture that now demands political correctness even if it goes against sincerely held religious beliefs.

7. A legal system that may actually harm a business owner if he or she refuses to participate in a gay marriage, or Catholic nuns who don't want to distribute birth control.

8. A press corp that embraces Liberalism and uses its constitutional privilege to diminish non-Liberals who have the temerity to speak out.

9. An education system dominated by Leftist teachers and administrators who impose their view of the world on defenseless children.

10. And a grievance industry promoted by the media thus allowing anti-American zealots to define this country as evil and oppressive, i.e., that America is the real problem in the world."

All of them are either untrue or distortions.
Number #1 is false because it insinuates law enforcement as a whole is being attacked. Limited and selected incidents are being publicized and protested. The numerous indictments, prosecutions, and convictions of bad cops is proof that there is cause for demanding justice regarding unjustified police killings of citizens. The comment qualifies as a distortion and of being factually incorrect. When you pin a large and inclusive group to a comment or comments made by a few random people, you create a misleading distortion.

Sorry, Camp....but whomever wrote that knocked your dick in the dirt and your lame tactic of simply attacking one of the issues (and even that was lame) just exposes you for being the limp-wristed Fabian socialist that you are. You and your kind are nothing but useful idiots to the globalists that use you like a cheap hooker. Fact!

OK, after the lecture, did you find anything specifically inaccurate or refutations in my comment or any of the ones that followed? I followed the post you quoted with a critique of three more of the ten listed by PC for a total of four of them. I figured I would wait to get specific challenges before going on to the other six.

There was nothing in your fool-fueled rant that was even remotely germane to the situation which is typical because you have no clue as to what is actually going on.......can't make it any clearer than that.

 

[Camp]

You forgot to mention which of these you found untrue:

1. "Intense verbal attacks on police officers labeling them racists who hunt down young black men.

2. A porous southern border where narcotics and human smuggling continue unabated.

3. A stagnant economy where workers have little bargaining power.

4. A growing jihadist terror threat that the Democratic Party refuses to define...not even using the words 'Islamic Terrorism'

5. A Democratic President who, after he announces the beheading of an American citizen by ISIS, goes out to play golf.




6. A culture that now demands political correctness even if it goes against sincerely held religious beliefs.

7. A legal system that may actually harm a business owner if he or she refuses to participate in a gay marriage, or Catholic nuns who don't want to distribute birth control.

8. A press corp that embraces Liberalism and uses its constitutional privilege to diminish non-Liberals who have the temerity to speak out.

9. An education system dominated by Leftist teachers and administrators who impose their view of the world on defenseless children.

10. And a grievance industry promoted by the media thus allowing anti-American zealots to define this country as evil and oppressive, i.e., that America is the real problem in the world."

All of them are either untrue or distortions.
Number #1 is false because it insinuates law enforcement as a whole is being attacked. Limited and selected incidents are being publicized and protested. The numerous indictments, prosecutions, and convictions of bad cops is proof that there is cause for demanding justice regarding unjustified police killings of citizens. The comment qualifies as a distortion and of being factually incorrect. When you pin a large and inclusive group to a comment or comments made by a few random people, you create a misleading distortion.

Sorry, Camp....but whomever wrote that knocked your dick in the dirt and your lame tactic of simply attacking one of the issues (and even that was lame) just exposes you for being the limp-wristed Fabian socialist that you are. You and your kind are nothing but useful idiots to the globalists that use you like a cheap hooker. Fact!

OK, after the lecture, did you find anything specifically inaccurate or refutations in my comment or any of the ones that followed? I followed the post you quoted with a critique of three more of the ten listed by PC for a total of four of them. I figured I would wait to get specific challenges before going on to the other six.

There was nothing in your fool-fueled rant that was even remotely germane to the situation which is typical because you have no clue as to what is actually going on.......can't make it any clearer than that.

So in other words, you have no refutation or challenge to my post, but in your opinion, it was not germane to the "situation" as you call it.

The poster gave a challenge in listing 10 numbered items that the poster claims were true. I responded to her exact claims made in her post in her own thread. That is what makes my response germane. A direct response to her posting, refuting the very concept or thesis of her thread by refuting her claims one by one.

 

[Dale Smith]

You forgot to mention which of these you found untrue:

1. "Intense verbal attacks on police officers labeling them racists who hunt down young black men.

2. A porous southern border where narcotics and human smuggling continue unabated.

3. A stagnant economy where workers have little bargaining power.

4. A growing jihadist terror threat that the Democratic Party refuses to define...not even using the words 'Islamic Terrorism'

5. A Democratic President who, after he announces the beheading of an American citizen by ISIS, goes out to play golf.




6. A culture that now demands political correctness even if it goes against sincerely held religious beliefs.

7. A legal system that may actually harm a business owner if he or she refuses to participate in a gay marriage, or Catholic nuns who don't want to distribute birth control.

8. A press corp that embraces Liberalism and uses its constitutional privilege to diminish non-Liberals who have the temerity to speak out.

9. An education system dominated by Leftist teachers and administrators who impose their view of the world on defenseless children.

10. And a grievance industry promoted by the media thus allowing anti-American zealots to define this country as evil and oppressive, i.e., that America is the real problem in the world."

All of them are either untrue or distortions.
Number #1 is false because it insinuates law enforcement as a whole is being attacked. Limited and selected incidents are being publicized and protested. The numerous indictments, prosecutions, and convictions of bad cops is proof that there is cause for demanding justice regarding unjustified police killings of citizens. The comment qualifies as a distortion and of being factually incorrect. When you pin a large and inclusive group to a comment or comments made by a few random people, you create a misleading distortion.

Sorry, Camp....but whomever wrote that knocked your dick in the dirt and your lame tactic of simply attacking one of the issues (and even that was lame) just exposes you for being the limp-wristed Fabian socialist that you are. You and your kind are nothing but useful idiots to the globalists that use you like a cheap hooker. Fact!

OK, after the lecture, did you find anything specifically inaccurate or refutations in my comment or any of the ones that followed? I followed the post you quoted with a critique of three more of the ten listed by PC for a total of four of them. I figured I would wait to get specific challenges before going on to the other six.

There was nothing in your fool-fueled rant that was even remotely germane to the situation which is typical because you have no clue as to what is actually going on.......can't make it any clearer than that.

So in other words, you have no refutation or challenge to my post, but in your opinion, it was not germane to the "situation" as you call it.

The poster gave a challenge in listing 10 numbered items that the poster claims were true. I responded to her exact claims made in her post in her own thread. That is what makes my response germane. A direct response to her posting, refuting the very concept or thesis of her thread by refuting her claims one by one.

Nothing to challenge because you can't defend the indefensible........can I be any clearer??

 

[Camp]

All of them are either untrue or distortions.
Number #1 is false because it insinuates law enforcement as a whole is being attacked. Limited and selected incidents are being publicized and protested. The numerous indictments, prosecutions, and convictions of bad cops is proof that there is cause for demanding justice regarding unjustified police killings of citizens. The comment qualifies as a distortion and of being factually incorrect. When you pin a large and inclusive group to a comment or comments made by a few random people, you create a misleading distortion.

Sorry, Camp....but whomever wrote that knocked your dick in the dirt and your lame tactic of simply attacking one of the issues (and even that was lame) just exposes you for being the limp-wristed Fabian socialist that you are. You and your kind are nothing but useful idiots to the globalists that use you like a cheap hooker. Fact!

OK, after the lecture, did you find anything specifically inaccurate or refutations in my comment or any of the ones that followed? I followed the post you quoted with a critique of three more of the ten listed by PC for a total of four of them. I figured I would wait to get specific challenges before going on to the other six.

There was nothing in your fool-fueled rant that was even remotely germane to the situation which is typical because you have no clue as to what is actually going on.......can't make it any clearer than that.

So in other words, you have no refutation or challenge to my post, but in your opinion, it was not germane to the "situation" as you call it.

The poster gave a challenge in listing 10 numbered items that the poster claims were true. I responded to her exact claims made in her post in her own thread. That is what makes my response germane. A direct response to her posting, refuting the very concept or thesis of her thread by refuting her claims one by one.

Nothing to challenge because you can't defend the indefensible........can I be any clearer??

Ya, you can stop the opinionated rhetoric and detail what was inaccurate about the post or any of the ones that followed. It's like this Dale, when you write a thesis and inaccuracies are found the thesis becomes invalid if you are unable to rectify the inaccuracies. The entire thesis becomes contaminated. You declaring something is indefensible without specifying what it is specifically what it is that is indefensible without an explanation is nothing more than deflection and evasion.

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

Yeah, right, because conservatives were big supporters of socialized medicine, government funded childcare, government pensions and free education.

Only if they were smart.

A smart person would never say what you just posted.

Really? one just did.

Daws apparently doesn't realize the amount of national debt, constant need for budget cuts, and a lack of quality care associated with socialized medicine. Anyone that thinks government can do it better really isn't operating with a ful deck.

Total bullshit.

As much as you love socialized medicine and want to hold onto that view that my response is "bullshit" the reality tells a completely different story. Even years later, since England made the decision to initiated the NHS system, the government there still manages to face those same recurring problems often associated with a government healthcare system - increasing debt, health care cuts, and a struggle to maintain quality care. Engiand is even going as far as looking into the need to once again look to the possibility they may need to privatize healthcare.



Cancer drugs fund cuts 23 treatments - BBC News

Thousands of cancer patients to be denied treatment


Increasing numbers of NHS providers are now facing financial difficulties. In 2011/12, 24 per cent of trusts and foundation trusts overspent. The latest figures for 2014/15 suggest this is likely to increase to between 40 to 50 per cent.
Trusts in deficit


In England the Health and Social Care Act is pushing the NHS towards becoming a full-scale market where private companies bid to provide services. Although Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland have generally avoided taking this path, they are still under pressure to privatise services – this pressure is being increased as budgets get tighter.

The NHS in England has been told to find £20bn of cuts by 2015. The government is portraying the cuts as efficiency savings that would be reinvested in patient care. But this is a myth; the treasury took back £1bn of the £1.4bn saved by the NHS in the past year.
Fighting cuts and privatisation in the NHS - UNISON

 

[Camp]

Only if they were smart.

A smart person would never say what you just posted.

Really? one just did.

Daws apparently doesn't realize the amount of national debt, constant need for budget cuts, and a lack of quality care associated with socialized medicine. Anyone that thinks government can do it better really isn't operating with a ful deck.

Total bullshit.

As much as you love socialized medicine and want to hold onto that view that my response is "bullshit" the reality tells a completely different story. Even years later, since England made the decision to initiated the NHS system, the government there still manages to face those same recurring problems often associated with a government healthcare system - increasing debt, health care cuts, and a struggle to maintain quality care. Engiand is even going as far as looking into the need to once again look to the possibility they may need to privatize healthcare.



Cancer drugs fund cuts 23 treatments - BBC News

Thousands of cancer patients to be denied treatment


Increasing numbers of NHS providers are now facing financial difficulties. In 2011/12, 24 per cent of trusts and foundation trusts overspent. The latest figures for 2014/15 suggest this is likely to increase to between 40 to 50 per cent.
Trusts in deficit


In England the Health and Social Care Act is pushing the NHS towards becoming a full-scale market where private companies bid to provide services. Although Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland have generally avoided taking this path, they are still under pressure to privatise services – this pressure is being increased as budgets get tighter.

The NHS in England has been told to find £20bn of cuts by 2015. The government is portraying the cuts as efficiency savings that would be reinvested in patient care. But this is a myth; the treasury took back £1bn of the £1.4bn saved by the NHS in the past year.
Fighting cuts and privatisation in the NHS - UNISON

So what happened? Did they go broke? The article appears to be from 2014. Couldn't find an update.