Protesters Carrying Rifle Outside Obama Rally

[RetiredGySgt]

Now I have to call you an asshole for that.

If its legal why don't they carry their guns to the bank, on public transportation and on a plane then?

Stop being so wilfully DENSE.

Actually in AZ they can carry their guns into a bank and on public transportation so long as they carry them openly and not concealed. Granted if you walk into a bank with a gun on your hip you are probably going to have security keeping a very close eye on you, if not escorting you out because you pose a specific risk of robbing the place. On public transportation there's not a whole lot that can be done. As for the plane thing that often involved traveling across state lines and each state has differing rules, not to mention all the federal guidelines as well that bar you from carrying weapons on a flight which is why you don't see guns there.

Carrying into a bank may not be smart but it's not necessarily illegal either unless it is a federal bank and thus would fall under the mandate of no guns being allowed in State and Federal building as well as places like hospitals and schools.

Aren't all banks considered Federal? I mean it's a Federal crime to rob a bank? In any case, I can see being allowed to carry in public places, but private business should have the absolute right to deny firearms on their property.

Not unless the LAW gives them the authority to deny a protected right to a citizen. In North Carolina we have concealed carry but any business can put up a sign stating no carry on their property. Of course the first family that loses someone because of those signs will find out all about the right to sue.

And banks are not excluded here, it is up to the Bank to declare no carry.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Yeah.........nothing to be scared of a person walking around with a gun in an open carry state.

Keep telling yourself that. Then go talk to the people who have lost family members to crazed gunmen. Remember.........most of their family members said they had no idea that the person was ready to go snappy.

Tell that to the families of those that Cho took out. He was hidden also until he killed all those people. Tell that to the families of those on that street in the south where a guy drove down the street, killing all those people on their porches.

Tell that to the families of the DC Sniper.

Yeah........right........nothing to worry about........

neither DC nor VA are open carry states

Oh I beg to differ

We are not only open carry, the state pre-empts (is that the word???) all local laws. In other words NO locality can pass their own firearm restrictions.

LIS > Code of Virginia > 15.2-915


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§ 15.2-915. Control of firearms; applicability to authorities and local governmental agencies.

A. No locality shall adopt or enforce any ordinance, resolution or motion, as permitted by § 15.2-1425, and no agent of such locality shall take any administrative action, governing the purchase, possession, transfer, ownership, carrying, storage or transporting of firearms, ammunition, or components or combination thereof other than those expressly authorized by statute. For purposes of this section, a statute that does not refer to firearms, ammunition, or components or combination thereof, shall not be construed to provide express authorization.

Nothing in this section shall prohibit a locality from adopting workplace rules relating to terms and conditions of employment of the workforce. Nothing in this section shall prohibit a law-enforcement officer, as defined in § 9.1-101 from acting within the scope of his duties.

The provisions of this section applicable to a locality shall also apply to any authority or to a local governmental entity, including a department or agency, but not including any local or regional jail or juvenile detention facility.

B. Any local ordinance, resolution or motion adopted prior to the effective date of this act governing the purchase, possession, transfer, ownership, carrying or transporting of firearms, ammunition, or components or combination thereof, other than those expressly authorized by statute, is invalid.

C. In addition to any other relief provided, the court may award reasonable attorney fees, expenses, and court costs to any person, group, or entity that prevails in an action challenging (i) an ordinance, resolution, or motion as being in conflict with this section or (ii) an administrative action taken in bad faith as being in conflict with this section.


The guns people rank us as "gold"

Hey Sushi Boy.............looks like you just got your ass handed to you in pieces without any glue by Emma.

Good job Emma.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Yeah.........nothing to be scared of a person walking around with a gun in an open carry state.

Keep telling yourself that. Then go talk to the people who have lost family members to crazed gunmen. Remember.........most of their family members said they had no idea that the person was ready to go snappy.

Tell that to the families of those that Cho took out. He was hidden also until he killed all those people. Tell that to the families of those on that street in the south where a guy drove down the street, killing all those people on their porches.

Tell that to the families of the DC Sniper.

Yeah........right........nothing to worry about........

Unbelievable You are a moron.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Yeah.........nothing to be scared of a person walking around with a gun in an open carry state.

Keep telling yourself that. Then go talk to the people who have lost family members to crazed gunmen. Remember.........most of their family members said they had no idea that the person was ready to go snappy.

Tell that to the families of those that Cho took out. He was hidden also until he killed all those people. Tell that to the families of those on that street in the south where a guy drove down the street, killing all those people on their porches.

Tell that to the families of the DC Sniper.

Yeah........right........nothing to worry about........

Unbelievable You are a moron.

Unbelievable that I'm a moron? You're right. I'm not a moron. Punctuation Really Grumpy Shithead (RGS) helps.

You on the other hand are a knuckle dragging, sloping forheaded Neanderthal who probably pees in the air and drinks it.

By the way............not only are you fucking stupid in this, but your religion is a FARCE!

 

[DiveCon]

Yeah.........nothing to be scared of a person walking around with a gun in an open carry state.

Keep telling yourself that. Then go talk to the people who have lost family members to crazed gunmen. Remember.........most of their family members said they had no idea that the person was ready to go snappy.

Tell that to the families of those that Cho took out. He was hidden also until he killed all those people. Tell that to the families of those on that street in the south where a guy drove down the street, killing all those people on their porches.

Tell that to the families of the DC Sniper.

Yeah........right........nothing to worry about........

neither DC nor VA are open carry states

Oh I beg to differ

We are not only open carry, the state pre-empts (is that the word???) all local laws. In other words NO locality can pass their own firearm restrictions.

LIS > Code of Virginia > 15.2-915


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§ 15.2-915. Control of firearms; applicability to authorities and local governmental agencies.

A. No locality shall adopt or enforce any ordinance, resolution or motion, as permitted by § 15.2-1425, and no agent of such locality shall take any administrative action, governing the purchase, possession, transfer, ownership, carrying, storage or transporting of firearms, ammunition, or components or combination thereof other than those expressly authorized by statute. For purposes of this section, a statute that does not refer to firearms, ammunition, or components or combination thereof, shall not be construed to provide express authorization.

Nothing in this section shall prohibit a locality from adopting workplace rules relating to terms and conditions of employment of the workforce. Nothing in this section shall prohibit a law-enforcement officer, as defined in § 9.1-101 from acting within the scope of his duties.

The provisions of this section applicable to a locality shall also apply to any authority or to a local governmental entity, including a department or agency, but not including any local or regional jail or juvenile detention facility.

B. Any local ordinance, resolution or motion adopted prior to the effective date of this act governing the purchase, possession, transfer, ownership, carrying or transporting of firearms, ammunition, or components or combination thereof, other than those expressly authorized by statute, is invalid.

C. In addition to any other relief provided, the court may award reasonable attorney fees, expenses, and court costs to any person, group, or entity that prevails in an action challenging (i) an ordinance, resolution, or motion as being in conflict with this section or (ii) an administrative action taken in bad faith as being in conflict with this section.


The guns people rank us as "gold"

hmm interesting
sorry, i thought for sure VA was not
thanks for the info

 

[DiveCon]

neither DC nor VA are open carry states

Oh I beg to differ

We are not only open carry, the state pre-empts (is that the word???) all local laws. In other words NO locality can pass their own firearm restrictions.

LIS > Code of Virginia > 15.2-915


prev | next
§ 15.2-915. Control of firearms; applicability to authorities and local governmental agencies.

A. No locality shall adopt or enforce any ordinance, resolution or motion, as permitted by § 15.2-1425, and no agent of such locality shall take any administrative action, governing the purchase, possession, transfer, ownership, carrying, storage or transporting of firearms, ammunition, or components or combination thereof other than those expressly authorized by statute. For purposes of this section, a statute that does not refer to firearms, ammunition, or components or combination thereof, shall not be construed to provide express authorization.

Nothing in this section shall prohibit a locality from adopting workplace rules relating to terms and conditions of employment of the workforce. Nothing in this section shall prohibit a law-enforcement officer, as defined in § 9.1-101 from acting within the scope of his duties.

The provisions of this section applicable to a locality shall also apply to any authority or to a local governmental entity, including a department or agency, but not including any local or regional jail or juvenile detention facility.

B. Any local ordinance, resolution or motion adopted prior to the effective date of this act governing the purchase, possession, transfer, ownership, carrying or transporting of firearms, ammunition, or components or combination thereof, other than those expressly authorized by statute, is invalid.

C. In addition to any other relief provided, the court may award reasonable attorney fees, expenses, and court costs to any person, group, or entity that prevails in an action challenging (i) an ordinance, resolution, or motion as being in conflict with this section or (ii) an administrative action taken in bad faith as being in conflict with this section.


The guns people rank us as "gold"

Hey Sushi Boy.............looks like you just got your ass handed to you in pieces without any glue by Emma.

Good job Emma.

again, seek out professional help

 

[RetiredGySgt]

neither DC nor VA are open carry states

Oh I beg to differ

We are not only open carry, the state pre-empts (is that the word???) all local laws. In other words NO locality can pass their own firearm restrictions.

LIS > Code of Virginia > 15.2-915


prev | next
§ 15.2-915. Control of firearms; applicability to authorities and local governmental agencies.

A. No locality shall adopt or enforce any ordinance, resolution or motion, as permitted by § 15.2-1425, and no agent of such locality shall take any administrative action, governing the purchase, possession, transfer, ownership, carrying, storage or transporting of firearms, ammunition, or components or combination thereof other than those expressly authorized by statute. For purposes of this section, a statute that does not refer to firearms, ammunition, or components or combination thereof, shall not be construed to provide express authorization.

Nothing in this section shall prohibit a locality from adopting workplace rules relating to terms and conditions of employment of the workforce. Nothing in this section shall prohibit a law-enforcement officer, as defined in § 9.1-101 from acting within the scope of his duties.

The provisions of this section applicable to a locality shall also apply to any authority or to a local governmental entity, including a department or agency, but not including any local or regional jail or juvenile detention facility.

B. Any local ordinance, resolution or motion adopted prior to the effective date of this act governing the purchase, possession, transfer, ownership, carrying or transporting of firearms, ammunition, or components or combination thereof, other than those expressly authorized by statute, is invalid.

C. In addition to any other relief provided, the court may award reasonable attorney fees, expenses, and court costs to any person, group, or entity that prevails in an action challenging (i) an ordinance, resolution, or motion as being in conflict with this section or (ii) an administrative action taken in bad faith as being in conflict with this section.


The guns people rank us as "gold"

Hey Sushi Boy.............looks like you just got your ass handed to you in pieces without any glue by Emma.

Good job Emma.

So your entire argument is, that because some MIGHT abuse a right, that right should be removed? You might want to consider the ramifications of such an idiotic idea.

 

[DiveCon]

It was reported in several places (and the interviewer and chris even mentioned it) that there were two shadowing him. Why just shadow him? (other than he belongs to the nutters LOL) Wouldn't they have assigned people to watch the other people too? And if it was because of Hancock's group, there were at least 4 of them carrying (hancock, chris, woman interviewed, and the dumbass who asked chris to water the tree of liberty).

well, it seems a lot of the nutters are either Ron Paul supporters or Laruche people
that means they are less than about 2% of the electorate
not something to really be scared of

What does that have to do with the police shadowing them?

it matters in the sense of they aren't a large group

 

[ABikerSailor]

Oh I beg to differ

We are not only open carry, the state pre-empts (is that the word???) all local laws. In other words NO locality can pass their own firearm restrictions.

LIS > Code of Virginia > 15.2-915


prev | next
§ 15.2-915. Control of firearms; applicability to authorities and local governmental agencies.

A. No locality shall adopt or enforce any ordinance, resolution or motion, as permitted by § 15.2-1425, and no agent of such locality shall take any administrative action, governing the purchase, possession, transfer, ownership, carrying, storage or transporting of firearms, ammunition, or components or combination thereof other than those expressly authorized by statute. For purposes of this section, a statute that does not refer to firearms, ammunition, or components or combination thereof, shall not be construed to provide express authorization.

Nothing in this section shall prohibit a locality from adopting workplace rules relating to terms and conditions of employment of the workforce. Nothing in this section shall prohibit a law-enforcement officer, as defined in § 9.1-101 from acting within the scope of his duties.

The provisions of this section applicable to a locality shall also apply to any authority or to a local governmental entity, including a department or agency, but not including any local or regional jail or juvenile detention facility.

B. Any local ordinance, resolution or motion adopted prior to the effective date of this act governing the purchase, possession, transfer, ownership, carrying or transporting of firearms, ammunition, or components or combination thereof, other than those expressly authorized by statute, is invalid.

C. In addition to any other relief provided, the court may award reasonable attorney fees, expenses, and court costs to any person, group, or entity that prevails in an action challenging (i) an ordinance, resolution, or motion as being in conflict with this section or (ii) an administrative action taken in bad faith as being in conflict with this section.


The guns people rank us as "gold"

Hey Sushi Boy.............looks like you just got your ass handed to you in pieces without any glue by Emma.

Good job Emma.

So your entire argument is, that because some MIGHT abuse a right, that right should be removed? You might want to consider the ramifications of such an idiotic idea.

Speaking of idiots Really Grumpy Shithead, you are one of the first water.

I didn't say remove the right, I said NO GUNS AT TOWN HALL MEETINGS! What part of that did your pea sized brain miss?

And the sad thing is, that 2 years ago, this wouldn't have been an issue because up until the GOP and others started getting stupid, this was not even thought of.

Did the VA cover your lobotomy?

 

[ABikerSailor]

Oh I beg to differ

We are not only open carry, the state pre-empts (is that the word???) all local laws. In other words NO locality can pass their own firearm restrictions.

LIS > Code of Virginia > 15.2-915


prev | next
§ 15.2-915. Control of firearms; applicability to authorities and local governmental agencies.

A. No locality shall adopt or enforce any ordinance, resolution or motion, as permitted by § 15.2-1425, and no agent of such locality shall take any administrative action, governing the purchase, possession, transfer, ownership, carrying, storage or transporting of firearms, ammunition, or components or combination thereof other than those expressly authorized by statute. For purposes of this section, a statute that does not refer to firearms, ammunition, or components or combination thereof, shall not be construed to provide express authorization.

Nothing in this section shall prohibit a locality from adopting workplace rules relating to terms and conditions of employment of the workforce. Nothing in this section shall prohibit a law-enforcement officer, as defined in § 9.1-101 from acting within the scope of his duties.

The provisions of this section applicable to a locality shall also apply to any authority or to a local governmental entity, including a department or agency, but not including any local or regional jail or juvenile detention facility.

B. Any local ordinance, resolution or motion adopted prior to the effective date of this act governing the purchase, possession, transfer, ownership, carrying or transporting of firearms, ammunition, or components or combination thereof, other than those expressly authorized by statute, is invalid.

C. In addition to any other relief provided, the court may award reasonable attorney fees, expenses, and court costs to any person, group, or entity that prevails in an action challenging (i) an ordinance, resolution, or motion as being in conflict with this section or (ii) an administrative action taken in bad faith as being in conflict with this section.


The guns people rank us as "gold"

Hey Sushi Boy.............looks like you just got your ass handed to you in pieces without any glue by Emma.

Good job Emma.

again, seek out professional help

Hey Sushi Slut.......might wanna get another response, as that one is getting a bit one trick pony.

Besides........what in that post pointed to me needing help? I think it's you that is paranoid and delusional.

 

[DiveCon]

Hey Sushi Boy.............looks like you just got your ass handed to you in pieces without any glue by Emma.

Good job Emma.

again, seek out professional help

Hey Sushi Slut.......might wanna get another response, as that one is getting a bit one trick pony.

Besides........what in that post pointed to me needing help? I think it's you that is paranoid and delusional.

its accurate

 

[Emma]

Actually in AZ they can carry their guns into a bank and on public transportation so long as they carry them openly and not concealed. Granted if you walk into a bank with a gun on your hip you are probably going to have security keeping a very close eye on you, if not escorting you out because you pose a specific risk of robbing the place. On public transportation there's not a whole lot that can be done. As for the plane thing that often involved traveling across state lines and each state has differing rules, not to mention all the federal guidelines as well that bar you from carrying weapons on a flight which is why you don't see guns there.

Carrying into a bank may not be smart but it's not necessarily illegal either unless it is a federal bank and thus would fall under the mandate of no guns being allowed in State and Federal building as well as places like hospitals and schools.

Aren't all banks considered Federal? I mean it's a Federal crime to rob a bank? In any case, I can see being allowed to carry in public places, but private business should have the absolute right to deny firearms on their property.

Not unless the LAW gives them the authority to deny a protected right to a citizen. In North Carolina we have concealed carry but any business can put up a sign stating no carry on their property. Of course the first family that loses someone because of those signs will find out all about the right to sue.

And banks are not excluded here, it is up to the Bank to declare no carry.

I have a HUGE problem with that. 2nd amendment rights (and those contained within state constitutions) are to restrict the government from infringing on your right to bear arms. I don't see how they can force someone to accept that on private property. Is it related to public accommodation?

 

[Emma]

neither DC nor VA are open carry states

Oh I beg to differ

We are not only open carry, the state pre-empts (is that the word???) all local laws. In other words NO locality can pass their own firearm restrictions.

LIS > Code of Virginia > 15.2-915


prev | next
§ 15.2-915. Control of firearms; applicability to authorities and local governmental agencies.

A. No locality shall adopt or enforce any ordinance, resolution or motion, as permitted by § 15.2-1425, and no agent of such locality shall take any administrative action, governing the purchase, possession, transfer, ownership, carrying, storage or transporting of firearms, ammunition, or components or combination thereof other than those expressly authorized by statute. For purposes of this section, a statute that does not refer to firearms, ammunition, or components or combination thereof, shall not be construed to provide express authorization.

Nothing in this section shall prohibit a locality from adopting workplace rules relating to terms and conditions of employment of the workforce. Nothing in this section shall prohibit a law-enforcement officer, as defined in § 9.1-101 from acting within the scope of his duties.

The provisions of this section applicable to a locality shall also apply to any authority or to a local governmental entity, including a department or agency, but not including any local or regional jail or juvenile detention facility.

B. Any local ordinance, resolution or motion adopted prior to the effective date of this act governing the purchase, possession, transfer, ownership, carrying or transporting of firearms, ammunition, or components or combination thereof, other than those expressly authorized by statute, is invalid.

C. In addition to any other relief provided, the court may award reasonable attorney fees, expenses, and court costs to any person, group, or entity that prevails in an action challenging (i) an ordinance, resolution, or motion as being in conflict with this section or (ii) an administrative action taken in bad faith as being in conflict with this section.


The guns people rank us as "gold"

hmm interesting
sorry, i thought for sure VA was not
thanks for the info

You're welcome.

I don't think the DC snipers actually killed anyone (or even operated) in DC. Maryland and Virginia I believe. But in the DC 'area', so it was easier and catchier I guess.

 

[ABikerSailor]

again, seek out professional help

Hey Sushi Slut.......might wanna get another response, as that one is getting a bit one trick pony.

Besides........what in that post pointed to me needing help? I think it's you that is paranoid and delusional.

its accurate

Might wanna check your tank mix Sushi Slut, it appears that your brain is oxygen starved.

 

[Emma]

well, it seems a lot of the nutters are either Ron Paul supporters or Laruche people
that means they are less than about 2% of the electorate
not something to really be scared of

What does that have to do with the police shadowing them?

it matters in the sense of they aren't a large group

Again, why should that matter?

It only takes one, dive.

 

[Emma]

neither DC nor VA are open carry states

Oh I beg to differ

We are not only open carry, the state pre-empts (is that the word???) all local laws. In other words NO locality can pass their own firearm restrictions.

LIS > Code of Virginia > 15.2-915


prev | next
§ 15.2-915. Control of firearms; applicability to authorities and local governmental agencies.

A. No locality shall adopt or enforce any ordinance, resolution or motion, as permitted by § 15.2-1425, and no agent of such locality shall take any administrative action, governing the purchase, possession, transfer, ownership, carrying, storage or transporting of firearms, ammunition, or components or combination thereof other than those expressly authorized by statute. For purposes of this section, a statute that does not refer to firearms, ammunition, or components or combination thereof, shall not be construed to provide express authorization.

Nothing in this section shall prohibit a locality from adopting workplace rules relating to terms and conditions of employment of the workforce. Nothing in this section shall prohibit a law-enforcement officer, as defined in § 9.1-101 from acting within the scope of his duties.

The provisions of this section applicable to a locality shall also apply to any authority or to a local governmental entity, including a department or agency, but not including any local or regional jail or juvenile detention facility.

B. Any local ordinance, resolution or motion adopted prior to the effective date of this act governing the purchase, possession, transfer, ownership, carrying or transporting of firearms, ammunition, or components or combination thereof, other than those expressly authorized by statute, is invalid.

C. In addition to any other relief provided, the court may award reasonable attorney fees, expenses, and court costs to any person, group, or entity that prevails in an action challenging (i) an ordinance, resolution, or motion as being in conflict with this section or (ii) an administrative action taken in bad faith as being in conflict with this section.


The guns people rank us as "gold"

Hey Sushi Boy.............looks like you just got your ass handed to you in pieces without any glue by Emma.

Good job Emma.

Thanks

I wasn't trying to score points on him, just inform him that we do carry here. You should see it during hunting season.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Hey..........Montana is the same way (that's where I'm originally from). Didn't know what store bought meat was until I was 12.

 

[DiveCon]

What does that have to do with the police shadowing them?

it matters in the sense of they aren't a large group

Again, why should that matter?

It only takes one, dive.

uh, so far, they havent actually been violent, and they have no real political power or influence
that was my point

 

[ABikerSailor]

What does that have to do with the police shadowing them?

it matters in the sense of they aren't a large group

Again, why should that matter?

It only takes one, dive.

Yep, Cho was just 1 person, and he took out over 30 people.

So was that dude in the south that killed over 10.

Emma's right Sushi Boy............it only takes 1. Shit, for some assault rifles, you can carry MUCH ammo in 1 magazine.


By the way, ever heard of a thing called an "assassin"? They work alone as well.

 

[Emma]

Dammit.

I had a point to make or a question or something and after scrolling past all the insults flying here I forgot what it was. I'm an old woman with diminishing brain power here. Don't get my 'roid rage going

Why don't you all just put "If I disagree with you, you're a moron" in your sigs to save time?