Public Schools Produce Dumb Kids

[Timmy]

Oh brother....p-schools kids watch Fat Albert's end of the world AGW lies and for an added bonus, watch Fat Mikey Moore's left wing movies. Now...name one film they watch that is right wing? This is to say nothing of the non-stop PC, diversity, homosexual, moral equivalence, big government wonderfulness, socialist shit storm indoctrination they also get.

You don't see the indoctrination...because you are purposely blind.

Public schools are controlled by school boards, made up of parents in those schools.

Ever hear of Common Core? Where did it come from and who is demanding it be implemented?

Most of the push for Common core comes from the US Military. Military Brats get pretty screwed up education-wise when moved from base to base because standards across States are incompatible.

My wife and I promised before our children were born, that they would NEVER walk the halls of a p-school. We kept that promise. My children turned out to be honest, ethical, and responsible people. They do not expect others or the stinking government take care of them.

What the Left has done to p-school students for decades, should be considered a crime,

I'm curious what region of the country you live in. In the Midwest, schools are pretty good and have been good for decades. In my graduating class we have engineers, actuaries, corporate types, professors, doctors, etc. And that's a class that was in the mid 100's. That's hardly unique in the Midwest.

Now when I lived in the South I worked hard to keep my kids out of public schools. The South absolutely dominates the lists when you talk about badly run and underperforming schools. They've systematically defunded K12 and broken down tenure laws to nothing down there following Brown vs. the Board of Education. There was massive white flight even in the early 00's where I was in Louisiana because even then the schools were segregated (cleverly) and the Feds had to step in and redraw district lines. Once that happened even more parents left for private school and even less funding for public school was available.

I'm back in the Midwest now and my kids schools are pretty awesome. Easily on par, and maybe better, than what I had as a kid.

Schools have a lot of local control . If you eliminate red state scores, US students suddenly are top 10 in the world .

 

[gipper]

Ever hear of Common Core? Where did it come from and who is demanding it be implemented?

Most of the push for Common core comes from the US Military. Military Brats get pretty screwed up education-wise when moved from base to base because standards across States are incompatible.

My wife and I promised before our children were born, that they would NEVER walk the halls of a p-school. We kept that promise. My children turned out to be honest, ethical, and responsible people. They do not expect others or the stinking government take care of them.

What the Left has done to p-school students for decades, should be considered a crime,

Yeah I am in the Midwest.
Now when I lived in the South I worked hard to keep my kids out of public schools. The South absolutely dominates the lists when you talk about badly run and underperforming schools. They've systematically defunded K12 and broken down tenure laws to nothing down there following Brown vs. the Board of Education. There was massive white flight even in the early 00's where I was in Louisiana because even then the schools were segregated (cleverly) and the Feds had to step in and redraw district lines. Once that happened even more parents left for private school and even less funding for public school was available.

I'm back in the Midwest now and my kids schools are pretty awesome. Easily on par, and maybe better, than what I had as a kid.

Good lord...

I am in the Midwest, but that again means nothing. Do you think p-schools in the inner cities of the Midwest are good? I would bet you dollars to donuts you would never send your kids to p-schools in Detroit, Chicago, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Dayton, Milwaukee, etc.....but it is not just the inner cities that suck. Wherever a p-school is located it is likely to fail in educating students. Yes...there are exceptions, but they are few and far between.

Anecdote
My son went to one the nation's best engineering universities. He was so well prepared by his private high school, that he did not have to work hard until his junior year. He said his buddies from the p-schools considered him a genius, because they had to work their tails off. He graduated summa cum laude.

Inner city schools anywhere are questionable. For the most part though, even there the Midwest is still pretty on top of the game.

I've known a lot of public schooled kids that go on to college and kick ass. I've seen a lot of private school kids come out middling to average. Your son's success is mostly due to him to be honest. Teachers can at most encourage interest and support what a student is willing to do.

Glad you admit inner city schools suck. Generations of poor children are getting screwed by the left establishment, that is more interested in pleasing the teachers unions to get their money, then educating kids. It is a crime of enormous proportions, yet nothing is done.

Of course, the problem goes much deeper than inner city schools. All p-schools are questionable...yes some are good, but most are bad.

 

[brummelben]

Most of the push for Common core comes from the US Military. Military Brats get pretty screwed up education-wise when moved from base to base because standards across States are incompatible.

My wife and I promised before our children were born, that they would NEVER walk the halls of a p-school. We kept that promise. My children turned out to be honest, ethical, and responsible people. They do not expect others or the stinking government take care of them.

What the Left has done to p-school students for decades, should be considered a crime,

Yeah I am in the Midwest.
Now when I lived in the South I worked hard to keep my kids out of public schools. The South absolutely dominates the lists when you talk about badly run and underperforming schools. They've systematically defunded K12 and broken down tenure laws to nothing down there following Brown vs. the Board of Education. There was massive white flight even in the early 00's where I was in Louisiana because even then the schools were segregated (cleverly) and the Feds had to step in and redraw district lines. Once that happened even more parents left for private school and even less funding for public school was available.

I'm back in the Midwest now and my kids schools are pretty awesome. Easily on par, and maybe better, than what I had as a kid.

Good lord...

I am in the Midwest, but that again means nothing. Do you think p-schools in the inner cities of the Midwest are good? I would bet you dollars to donuts you would never send your kids to p-schools in Detroit, Chicago, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Dayton, Milwaukee, etc.....but it is not just the inner cities that suck. Wherever a p-school is located it is likely to fail in educating students. Yes...there are exceptions, but they are few and far between.

Anecdote
My son went to one the nation's best engineering universities. He was so well prepared by his private high school, that he did not have to work hard until his junior year. He said his buddies from the p-schools considered him a genius, because they had to work their tails off. He graduated summa cum laude.

Inner city schools anywhere are questionable. For the most part though, even there the Midwest is still pretty on top of the game.

I've known a lot of public schooled kids that go on to college and kick ass. I've seen a lot of private school kids come out middling to average. Your son's success is mostly due to him to be honest. Teachers can at most encourage interest and support what a student is willing to do.

Glad you admit inner city schools suck. Generations of poor children are getting screwed by the left establishment, that is more interested in pleasing the teachers unions to get their money, then educating kids. It is a crime of enormous proportions, yet nothing is done.

Of course, the problem goes much deeper than inner city schools. All p-schools are questionable...yes some are good, but most are bad.

The problems with inner city schools have nothing to do with teachers unions, or the establishment. Its all about the kids and their families. Too many kids who can't speak English, too many parents who aren't involved in their childs education. No matter how hard the teachers try, if parents aren't onboard its a losing battle.

 

[gipper]

My wife and I promised before our children were born, that they would NEVER walk the halls of a p-school. We kept that promise. My children turned out to be honest, ethical, and responsible people. They do not expect others or the stinking government take care of them.

What the Left has done to p-school students for decades, should be considered a crime,

Yeah I am in the Midwest.
Now when I lived in the South I worked hard to keep my kids out of public schools. The South absolutely dominates the lists when you talk about badly run and underperforming schools. They've systematically defunded K12 and broken down tenure laws to nothing down there following Brown vs. the Board of Education. There was massive white flight even in the early 00's where I was in Louisiana because even then the schools were segregated (cleverly) and the Feds had to step in and redraw district lines. Once that happened even more parents left for private school and even less funding for public school was available.

I'm back in the Midwest now and my kids schools are pretty awesome. Easily on par, and maybe better, than what I had as a kid.

Good lord...

I am in the Midwest, but that again means nothing. Do you think p-schools in the inner cities of the Midwest are good? I would bet you dollars to donuts you would never send your kids to p-schools in Detroit, Chicago, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Dayton, Milwaukee, etc.....but it is not just the inner cities that suck. Wherever a p-school is located it is likely to fail in educating students. Yes...there are exceptions, but they are few and far between.

Anecdote
My son went to one the nation's best engineering universities. He was so well prepared by his private high school, that he did not have to work hard until his junior year. He said his buddies from the p-schools considered him a genius, because they had to work their tails off. He graduated summa cum laude.

Inner city schools anywhere are questionable. For the most part though, even there the Midwest is still pretty on top of the game.

I've known a lot of public schooled kids that go on to college and kick ass. I've seen a lot of private school kids come out middling to average. Your son's success is mostly due to him to be honest. Teachers can at most encourage interest and support what a student is willing to do.

Glad you admit inner city schools suck. Generations of poor children are getting screwed by the left establishment, that is more interested in pleasing the teachers unions to get their money, then educating kids. It is a crime of enormous proportions, yet nothing is done.

Of course, the problem goes much deeper than inner city schools. All p-schools are questionable...yes some are good, but most are bad.

The problems with inner city schools have nothing to do with teachers unions, or the establishment. Its all about the kids and their families. Too many kids who can't speak English, too many parents who aren't involved in their childs education. No matter how hard the teachers try, if parents aren't onboard its a losing battle.

BS another made up excuse to divert attention from the real culprit...the teachers, the unions and administrators.

My father grew up poor during the Great Depression. His mother died when he was eight and his father was a raging alcoholic. In other words, his parents were not involved in his education as many parents aren't involved...this is nothing new, but your use of this BS excuse proves you are uninformed. However, he did well getting a law degree using the GI Bill. Thing is teachers back then had a great deal of authority. You did not screw up in school or else there were consequences. There are no consequences today.

 

[Unkotare]

My wife and I promised before our children were born, that they would NEVER walk the halls of a p-school. We kept that promise. My children turned out to be honest, ethical, and responsible people. They do not expect others or the stinking government take care of them.

What the Left has done to p-school students for decades, should be considered a crime,

Yeah I am in the Midwest.
Now when I lived in the South I worked hard to keep my kids out of public schools. The South absolutely dominates the lists when you talk about badly run and underperforming schools. They've systematically defunded K12 and broken down tenure laws to nothing down there following Brown vs. the Board of Education. There was massive white flight even in the early 00's where I was in Louisiana because even then the schools were segregated (cleverly) and the Feds had to step in and redraw district lines. Once that happened even more parents left for private school and even less funding for public school was available.

I'm back in the Midwest now and my kids schools are pretty awesome. Easily on par, and maybe better, than what I had as a kid.

Good lord...

I am in the Midwest, but that again means nothing. Do you think p-schools in the inner cities of the Midwest are good? I would bet you dollars to donuts you would never send your kids to p-schools in Detroit, Chicago, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Dayton, Milwaukee, etc.....but it is not just the inner cities that suck. Wherever a p-school is located it is likely to fail in educating students. Yes...there are exceptions, but they are few and far between.

Anecdote
My son went to one the nation's best engineering universities. He was so well prepared by his private high school, that he did not have to work hard until his junior year. He said his buddies from the p-schools considered him a genius, because they had to work their tails off. He graduated summa cum laude.

Inner city schools anywhere are questionable. For the most part though, even there the Midwest is still pretty on top of the game.

I've known a lot of public schooled kids that go on to college and kick ass. I've seen a lot of private school kids come out middling to average. Your son's success is mostly due to him to be honest. Teachers can at most encourage interest and support what a student is willing to do.

Glad you admit inner city schools suck. Generations of poor children are getting screwed by the left establishment, that is more interested in pleasing the teachers unions to get their money, then educating kids. It is a crime of enormous proportions, yet nothing is done.

Of course, the problem goes much deeper than inner city schools. All p-schools are questionable...yes some are good, but most are bad.

The problems with inner city schools have nothing to do with teachers unions, or the establishment. Its all about the kids and their families. Too many kids who can't speak English, too many parents who aren't involved in their childs education. No matter how hard the teachers try, if parents aren't onboard its a losing battle.

If kids in school don't speak English, they are hard at work learning it.

 

[gipper]

Yeah I am in the Midwest.
Now when I lived in the South I worked hard to keep my kids out of public schools. The South absolutely dominates the lists when you talk about badly run and underperforming schools. They've systematically defunded K12 and broken down tenure laws to nothing down there following Brown vs. the Board of Education. There was massive white flight even in the early 00's where I was in Louisiana because even then the schools were segregated (cleverly) and the Feds had to step in and redraw district lines. Once that happened even more parents left for private school and even less funding for public school was available.

I'm back in the Midwest now and my kids schools are pretty awesome. Easily on par, and maybe better, than what I had as a kid.

Good lord...

I am in the Midwest, but that again means nothing. Do you think p-schools in the inner cities of the Midwest are good? I would bet you dollars to donuts you would never send your kids to p-schools in Detroit, Chicago, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Dayton, Milwaukee, etc.....but it is not just the inner cities that suck. Wherever a p-school is located it is likely to fail in educating students. Yes...there are exceptions, but they are few and far between.

Anecdote
My son went to one the nation's best engineering universities. He was so well prepared by his private high school, that he did not have to work hard until his junior year. He said his buddies from the p-schools considered him a genius, because they had to work their tails off. He graduated summa cum laude.

Inner city schools anywhere are questionable. For the most part though, even there the Midwest is still pretty on top of the game.

I've known a lot of public schooled kids that go on to college and kick ass. I've seen a lot of private school kids come out middling to average. Your son's success is mostly due to him to be honest. Teachers can at most encourage interest and support what a student is willing to do.

Glad you admit inner city schools suck. Generations of poor children are getting screwed by the left establishment, that is more interested in pleasing the teachers unions to get their money, then educating kids. It is a crime of enormous proportions, yet nothing is done.

Of course, the problem goes much deeper than inner city schools. All p-schools are questionable...yes some are good, but most are bad.

The problems with inner city schools have nothing to do with teachers unions, or the establishment. Its all about the kids and their families. Too many kids who can't speak English, too many parents who aren't involved in their childs education. No matter how hard the teachers try, if parents aren't onboard its a losing battle.

If kids in school don't speak English, they are hard T dork learning it.

This not speaking English is another BS excuse. Millions of Americans in past generations did not speak English but it did not stop them.

 

[thanatos144]

So true...and may explain why criminals like Hillary could be POTUS. The dumbing down of America has benefited the socialist party tremendously, but they still want more dummies imported from third world...and the R party is too feeble minded to stop it.

No wonder so many are socialists, says the Great Walter Williams.


Public Schools Produce Dumb Kids
Do you wonder why Sen. Bernie Sanders and his ideas are so popular among American college students? The answer is that they, like so many other young people who think they know it all, are really uninformed and ignorant. You say, "Williams, how dare you say that?! We've mortgaged our home to send our children to college." Let's start with the 2006 geographic literacy survey of youngsters between 18 and 24 years of age by National Geographic and Roper Public Affairs.

Less than half could identify New York and Ohio on a U.S. map. Sixty percent could not find Iraq or Saudi Arabia on a map of the Middle East, and three-quarters could not find Iran or Israel. In fact, 44 percent could not locate even one of those four countries. Youngsters who had taken a geography class didn't fare much better. By the way, when I attended elementary school, during the 1940s, we were given blank U.S. maps, and our assignment was to write in the states. Today such an assignment might be deemed oppressive, if not racist.

To accommodate less college-ready students, colleges must water down their curricula, lower standards and abandon traditional tools and topics. Emory University English professor Mark Bauerlein writes in his book "The Dumbest Generation": Tradition "serves a crucial moral and intellectual function. ... People who read Thucydides and Caesar on war, and Seneca and Ovid on love, are less inclined to construe passing fads as durable outlooks, to fall into the maelstrom of celebrity culture, to presume that the circumstances of their own life are worth a Web page."

It certainly explains how Trump got the nomination.

 

[Unkotare]

Good lord...

I am in the Midwest, but that again means nothing. Do you think p-schools in the inner cities of the Midwest are good? I would bet you dollars to donuts you would never send your kids to p-schools in Detroit, Chicago, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Dayton, Milwaukee, etc.....but it is not just the inner cities that suck. Wherever a p-school is located it is likely to fail in educating students. Yes...there are exceptions, but they are few and far between.

Anecdote
My son went to one the nation's best engineering universities. He was so well prepared by his private high school, that he did not have to work hard until his junior year. He said his buddies from the p-schools considered him a genius, because they had to work their tails off. He graduated summa cum laude.

Inner city schools anywhere are questionable. For the most part though, even there the Midwest is still pretty on top of the game.

I've known a lot of public schooled kids that go on to college and kick ass. I've seen a lot of private school kids come out middling to average. Your son's success is mostly due to him to be honest. Teachers can at most encourage interest and support what a student is willing to do.

Glad you admit inner city schools suck. Generations of poor children are getting screwed by the left establishment, that is more interested in pleasing the teachers unions to get their money, then educating kids. It is a crime of enormous proportions, yet nothing is done.

Of course, the problem goes much deeper than inner city schools. All p-schools are questionable...yes some are good, but most are bad.

The problems with inner city schools have nothing to do with teachers unions, or the establishment. Its all about the kids and their families. Too many kids who can't speak English, too many parents who aren't involved in their childs education. No matter how hard the teachers try, if parents aren't onboard its a losing battle.

If kids in school don't speak English, they are hard T dork learning it.

This not speaking English is another BS excuse. Millions of Americans in past generations did not speak English but it did not stop them.

What do you mean?

 

[gipper]

Inner city schools anywhere are questionable. For the most part though, even there the Midwest is still pretty on top of the game.

I've known a lot of public schooled kids that go on to college and kick ass. I've seen a lot of private school kids come out middling to average. Your son's success is mostly due to him to be honest. Teachers can at most encourage interest and support what a student is willing to do.

Glad you admit inner city schools suck. Generations of poor children are getting screwed by the left establishment, that is more interested in pleasing the teachers unions to get their money, then educating kids. It is a crime of enormous proportions, yet nothing is done.

Of course, the problem goes much deeper than inner city schools. All p-schools are questionable...yes some are good, but most are bad.

The problems with inner city schools have nothing to do with teachers unions, or the establishment. Its all about the kids and their families. Too many kids who can't speak English, too many parents who aren't involved in their childs education. No matter how hard the teachers try, if parents aren't onboard its a losing battle.

If kids in school don't speak English, they are hard T dork learning it.

This not speaking English is another BS excuse. Millions of Americans in past generations did not speak English but it did not stop them.

What do you mean?

For example, my mother and wife both started school not knowing a word of English. In short order, they were proficient but that was before leftists took over the p-schools.

 

[Unkotare]

Glad you admit inner city schools suck. Generations of poor children are getting screwed by the left establishment, that is more interested in pleasing the teachers unions to get their money, then educating kids. It is a crime of enormous proportions, yet nothing is done.

Of course, the problem goes much deeper than inner city schools. All p-schools are questionable...yes some are good, but most are bad.

The problems with inner city schools have nothing to do with teachers unions, or the establishment. Its all about the kids and their families. Too many kids who can't speak English, too many parents who aren't involved in their childs education. No matter how hard the teachers try, if parents aren't onboard its a losing battle.

If kids in school don't speak English, they are hard T dork learning it.

This not speaking English is another BS excuse. Millions of Americans in past generations did not speak English but it did not stop them.

What do you mean?

For example, my mother and wife both started school not knowing a word of English. In short order, they were proficient but that was before leftists took over the p-schools.

Define "short order" and "proficient" as you understand them.

 

[psikeyhackr]

Today I listened to a high school teacher talking about high school kids not reading Animal Farm. The way she said it I wasn't sure if they could not read or refused to read it. I read it in high school decades ago. But I wonder why anyone would want to read that obsolete junk. Is it really about issues today's kids will need to deal with. AI, robots, consumer brainwashing and climate change. What books are worth using for education?

The Space Merchants from 1952 was published 7 years after Animal Farm would be more relevant to the world today.

All of this complaining about schools and no suggestions about what kids would be better off reading. And Project Gutenberg is free.

All Books (sorted by release date)

Siddhartha, by Herman Hesse
Siddhartha, by Hermann Hesse

Worlds Within Worlds: The Story of Nuclear Energy, by Isaac Asimov
Worlds Within Worlds: The Story of Nuclear Energy, Volume 3; Nuclear Fission; Nuclear Fusion; Beyond Fusion

Omnilingual, by H. Beam Piper
The Project Gutenberg eBook of Omnilingual, by H. Beam Piper

The Age of Stupid - full documentary (Official)


psik

 

[P@triot]

Truer words were never spoke gipper. Just look at what progressives have done to our education system...

• Less than 50% (of youngsters between 18 and 24 years of age polled by National Geographic and Roper Public Affairs) could identify New York and Ohio on a U.S. map

• 60% could not find Iraq or Saudi Arabia on a map of the Middle East

• 75% could not find Iran or Israel

• 44% could not locate even one of those four countries.

According to a Philadelphia magazine article:

• The percentage of college grads who can read and interpret a food label has fallen from 40% to 30%

• They are 6x's likelier to know who won “American Idol” than they are to know the name of the speaker of the House

• A high school teacher in California handed out an assignment that required students to use a ruler. Not a single student knew how

According to a study done by the American Institutes for Research:

• Revealed over 75% of two-year college students and 50% of four-year college students were incapable of completing everyday tasks.

• About 20% of four-year college students demonstrated only basic mathematical ability

• While a steeper 30% of two-year college students could not progress past elementary arithmetic

NBC News reported:

• Fortune 500 companies spend about $3 billion annually to train employees in “basic English.”

Reported by Just Facts:

• In 2009, the Pentagon estimated that 65% of 17- to 24-year-olds in the U.S. were unqualified for military service because of weak educational skills, poor physical fitness, illegal drug usage, medical conditions, or criminal records.

• In January 2014, the commander of the U.S. Army Recruiting Command estimated this figure at 77.5%

• And in June 2014, the Department of Defense estimated this figure at 71%.

The Astonishing Ignorance of Young Adults

 

[gipper]

Truer words were never spoke gipper. Just look at what progressives have done to our education system...

• Less than 50% (of youngsters between 18 and 24 years of age polled by National Geographic and Roper Public Affairs) could identify New York and Ohio on a U.S. map

• 60% could not find Iraq or Saudi Arabia on a map of the Middle East

• 75% could not find Iran or Israel

• 44% could not locate even one of those four countries.

According to a Philadelphia magazine article:

• The percentage of college grads who can read and interpret a food label has fallen from 40% to 30%

• They are 6x's likelier to know who won “American Idol” than they are to know the name of the speaker of the House

• A high school teacher in California handed out an assignment that required students to use a ruler. Not a single student knew how

According to a study done by the American Institutes for Research:

• Revealed over 75% of two-year college students and 50% of four-year college students were incapable of completing everyday tasks.

• About 20% of four-year college students demonstrated only basic mathematical ability

• While a steeper 30% of two-year college students could not progress past elementary arithmetic

NBC News reported:

• Fortune 500 companies spend about $3 billion annually to train employees in “basic English.”

Reported by Just Facts:

• In 2009, the Pentagon estimated that 65% of 17- to 24-year-olds in the U.S. were unqualified for military service because of weak educational skills, poor physical fitness, illegal drug usage, medical conditions, or criminal records.

• In January 2014, the commander of the U.S. Army Recruiting Command estimated this figure at 77.5%

• And in June 2014, the Department of Defense estimated this figure at 71%.

The Astonishing Ignorance of Young Adults

Agreed....yet many on the left don't know this reality, proving the dumbing down of America has been an enormous success. They don't know who is at fault and will defend the failing p-schools.

Those who know the least obey the best. No truer statement has ever been spoken...the political class and the wealthy statist elite know this statement well and have made sure it is national policy.

 

[Unkotare]

Today I listened to a high school teacher talking about high school kids not reading Animal Farm. The way she said it I wasn't sure if they could not read or refused to read it. I read it in high school decades ago. But I wonder why anyone would want to read that obsolete junk. Is it really about issues today's kids will need to deal with. ....

http://i.imgur.com/8VYMSq8.gif

 

[ding]

Today I listened to a high school teacher talking about high school kids not reading Animal Farm. The way she said it I wasn't sure if they could not read or refused to read it. I read it in high school decades ago. But I wonder why anyone would want to read that obsolete junk. Is it really about issues today's kids will need to deal with. AI, robots, consumer brainwashing and climate change. What books are worth using for education?

The Space Merchants from 1952 was published 7 years after Animal Farm would be more relevant to the world today.

All of this complaining about schools and no suggestions about what kids would be better off reading. And Project Gutenberg is free.

All Books (sorted by release date)

Siddhartha, by Herman Hesse
Siddhartha, by Hermann Hesse

Worlds Within Worlds: The Story of Nuclear Energy, by Isaac Asimov
Worlds Within Worlds: The Story of Nuclear Energy, Volume 3; Nuclear Fission; Nuclear Fusion; Beyond Fusion

Omnilingual, by H. Beam Piper
The Project Gutenberg eBook of Omnilingual, by H. Beam Piper

The Age of Stupid - full documentary (Official)


psik

Animal Farm is a relevant today as it was when it was written. In fact, Free Enterprise vs Socialism is the cosmic battle between good and evil. That struggle has been going on for thousands of years. There is no end in sight.

 

[P@triot]

Today I listened to a high school teacher talking about high school kids not reading Animal Farm. The way she said it I wasn't sure if they could not read or refused to read it. I read it in high school decades ago. But I wonder why anyone would want to read that obsolete junk. Is it really about issues today's kids will need to deal with. AI, robots, consumer brainwashing and climate change. What books are worth using for education?

I've LONG said that all of that crap was a complete waste of time (and the kind of stuff you get from progressives). They only thing children should read in school are autobiographies. Not only can children learn about how to succeed - but they can also learn what not to do. There is simply no value in reading A Farewell to Arms. That was designed to be entertainment.

 

[psikeyhackr]

Animal Farm is a relevant today as it was when it was written. In fact, Free Enterprise vs Socialism is the cosmic battle between good and evil. That struggle has been going on for thousands of years. There is no end in sight.

Free enterprise if just propaganda from the American Delusion. It never existed. But now our economists cannot tell the American people how much they lose every year on the depreciation of automobiles and pretend Planned Obsolescence is not happening. That is why we can't deal with education problems. Different groups want the schools to do their version of brainwashing.

Cars did not exist to any degree before 1900 and Henry Ford was called a "Traitor to his Class". LOL

psik

 

[Unkotare]

...
Animal Farm is a relevant today as it was when it was written. In fact, Free Enterprise vs Socialism is the cosmic battle between good and evil. That struggle has been going on for thousands of years. There is no end in sight.

Animal Farm is about more than just "Free Enterprise vs Socialism."

 

[ding]

Animal Farm is a relevant today as it was when it was written. In fact, Free Enterprise vs Socialism is the cosmic battle between good and evil. That struggle has been going on for thousands of years. There is no end in sight.

Free enterprise if just propaganda from the American Delusion. It never existed. But now our economists cannot tell the American people how much they lose every year on the depreciation of automobiles and pretend Planned Obsolescence is not happening. That is why we can't deal with education problems. Different groups want the schools to do their version of brainwashing.

Cars did not exist to any degree before 1900 and Henry Ford was called a "Traitor to his Class". LOL

psik

Sure, it is an illusion, but it didn't used to be.

 

[ding]

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Animal Farm is a relevant today as it was when it was written. In fact, Free Enterprise vs Socialism is the cosmic battle between good and evil. That struggle has been going on for thousands of years. There is no end in sight.

Animal Farm is about more than just "Free Enterprise vs Socialism."

Sure, I didn't say it was. It is about right and wrong and the rationalizations we make when we violate it. It is about gradualism. It is about propaganda. But I'm all ears, please do tell what else you believe Animal Farm is about.