Public-Sector Unions

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The source of the article, solidly conservative, found that Richard Steier, solidly pro-union, did the public service unions no service when he wrote about their "plight."

Here, a peek into both sides of the issue:




1. "In 1958, New York City mayor Robert F. Wagner issued an executive order mandating collective bargaining for municipal employees..... Public-sector unions quickly became a political force in New York.
[In 1937, Wagner's father, a New Deal-era senator, had authored 1935’s Wagner Act requiring collective bargaining in the private sector, effectively ending any view that the Constitution held sway in the United States.]

a. In addition to bargaining collectively over wages, working conditions, and benefits, they began to underwrite political campaigns, lobby mayors and city council members, and organize protests when their interests were threatened. The dominant political player in the city council today is the Working Families Party, a creation of the city’s public-sector unions.

2. The result has been a ratcheting up of the cost of city government, as unionization added wage and benefit premiums to what workers would have otherwise earned. Layering work rules on top of civil-service protections also constrained the authority of administrative managers.





3. .... Steier, an editor and columnist for the Chief-Leader, a newspaper dedicated to covering the civil service in New York.... political line is Old Left—more the Popular Front of 1938 than the radical chic of 1968..... Steier’s case for public-employee unionization is that most government workers make modest, middle-class salaries, and thus “unions represent the best shot that ordinary people in this nation have for fair economic treatment.”

a. ..... humble government employees are menaced by a teeming horde of villains. These include Wall Street financiers, presidents Reagan and Bush, mayors Giuliani and Bloomberg, Governor Andrew Cuomo, media mogul Rupert Murdoch, charter school operator Eva Moskowitz, the Citizens Budget Commission, the Manhattan Institute (publisher of City Journal), and the corruption and cupidity of many union leaders themselves.

4. If only the unions could “get their story out on issues that involve conflict with the city and state government.... citizens would rally to the union cause. Because, as Steier sees it, .... He takes heart, however, in the unions’ ability to “block legislation that would harm them or their rank and file.” That requires political power.




5. The unions’ biggest enemy, in Steier’s telling, is their own leadership. He offers lurid tales of leaders dipping into union coffers to enrich themselves (and their relatives) and rigging contract votes..... the head of Local 372, embezzled $2 million while maintaining a cocaine habit in the late 1990s.

6. .... the ideological thrust of his writing is straightforward statism. The goal, as he sees it, is to transfer ever more resources from the private sector to the public sector.





7. He never tries to balance the unions’ interests against others—such as those of taxpayers, small businesses, schoolchildren, or the consumers of city services. He refuses to confront the issue of exploding pension and retiree health-care costs, which threaten to displace current government services such as police, fire, and sanitation.

8..... no limit exists to how much the rich can be taxed to pay for a more opulent public sector, and he’s not interested in comparing the lots of similarly situated public- and private-sector workers. Doing so would have allowed readers to judge how government workers are faring compared with the four-fifths of workers employed in the private sector."
With Friends Like These by Daniel DiSalvo, City Journal 4 April 2014
 
if politicians were actually doing their jobs, would we even need unions?



I believe there would always be a desire for unions, as our nature never stops at 'enough,' and aims for 'more.'


The political power that they attain is the problem.

Everyone, it seems, wants to believe that he is just as good as the next guy, and in a democracy, the government adds its authority by the ‘leveling’ process. “ But what his heart whispers to him, and the law proclaims, the society around him incessantly denies: certain people are richer, more powerful than he, others are reputed to be wiser, more intelligent.

The contradiction between social reality and the combined wishes of his heart and the law, therefore incites and nourishes a devouring passion in everyone: the passion for equality. It will never cease until social reality is made to conform with his and the law’s wishes.” Pierre Manent, “An Intellectual History of Liberalism,” p. 107-8.



I can't blame union members.

The law should be directed against elected officials who give away the fisc for votes.
 
I really like the theme of your posts. But, I wish they weren't so long.

I agree - as did FDR - that public sector unions are a very bad idea! At EVERY level of government.
 
Traditionally, government employees were paid somewhat less than their private-sector counterparts, but the benefits were good and the job security was iron-clad. As a result, the rolls of government employees were populated by relatives of other government employees, misfits who would never be hired by any private company, and people whose greatest ambition in life was a paycheck for doing as little work as possible. They put up a front of business-like efficiency, but to put it graphically, you'd better not be standing near the Employees' Exit at 4:30pm - you might get run over.

Collective bargaining (and more vitally, the right to strike) was always known to be an absurd concept for government employees. FDR has been famously quoted as pointing this out, but it doesn't take a genius to figure out that in the "adversarial" negotiation between public sector management and public sector workers, it was always bound to be heads you (the taxpayers) lose, tails you (the taxpayers) lose. The managers got everything they gave up at the bargaining table in their own compensation and benefit packages about 15 minutes after the close of negotiations with the union.

Initially, the government employee unions were getting CBA's that were comparable to the BEST contracts that private sector employers were signing, with annual raises, cost of living raises, generous benefits, early retirements, and cushy working conditions.

But companies that were doing that in the private sector had to face a rude awakening in the late 70's and early 80's. They either went bankrupt, were merged out of existence, or had a long series of "give-backs" just to survive. Employees saw stagnant wages, deteriorating benefits, and restructured retirements throughout the period. Generous defined-benefit pension plans went bankrupt, or were replaced with 401k's.

But in the public sector none of this happened - there was no outside-imposed reality check, as there was in the private sector (due to the now-global marketplace). In fact, they continued feathering their own nests at public expense for another several decades, with no give-backs, no retreat on the defined benefit pensions, and no adjustment to the ridiculous 30-year&out retirement age that resulted in taxpayers supporting RETIRED 50-year-olds for the rest of their lives!

And Democrat politicians, particularly in big cities like NYC quickly realized that when you count all the government workers and their family members who also voted, you could LOCK UP 20-25% of the electorate, just by giving their unions everything they wanted. Oh, they postured like they were negotiating tough with them, but it was all a show.

And this is why, to this day, an opposition party mayoral candidate has a better chance of winning in Havana than in NYC, Phila, Boston, or Chi-town.

I am happy to report that I will shortly be retiring and will no longer paying excess taxes to support this cluster-fuck. Think I'll live on a boat someplace.
 
Traditionally, government employees were paid somewhat less than their private-sector counterparts, but the benefits were good and the job security was iron-clad. As a result, the rolls of government employees were populated by relatives of other government employees, misfits who would never be hired by any private company, and people whose greatest ambition in life was a paycheck for doing as little work as possible. They put up a front of business-like efficiency, but to put it graphically, you'd better not be standing near the Employees' Exit at 4:30pm - you might get run over.

Collective bargaining (and more vitally, the right to strike) was always known to be an absurd concept for government employees. FDR has been famously quoted as pointing this out, but it doesn't take a genius to figure out that in the "adversarial" negotiation between public sector management and public sector workers, it was always bound to be heads you (the taxpayers) lose, tails you (the taxpayers) lose. The managers got everything they gave up at the bargaining table in their own compensation and benefit packages about 15 minutes after the close of negotiations with the union.

Initially, the government employee unions were getting CBA's that were comparable to the BEST contracts that private sector employers were signing, with annual raises, cost of living raises, generous benefits, early retirements, and cushy working conditions.

But companies that were doing that in the private sector had to face a rude awakening in the late 70's and early 80's. They either went bankrupt, were merged out of existence, or had a long series of "give-backs" just to survive. Employees saw stagnant wages, deteriorating benefits, and restructured retirements throughout the period. Generous defined-benefit pension plans went bankrupt, or were replaced with 401k's.

But in the public sector none of this happened - there was no outside-imposed reality check, as there was in the private sector (due to the now-global marketplace). In fact, they continued feathering their own nests at public expense for another several decades, with no give-backs, no retreat on the defined benefit pensions, and no adjustment to the ridiculous 30-year&out retirement age that resulted in taxpayers supporting RETIRED 50-year-olds for the rest of their lives!

And Democrat politicians, particularly in big cities like NYC quickly realized that when you count all the government workers and their family members who also voted, you could LOCK UP 20-25% of the electorate, just by giving their unions everything they wanted. Oh, they postured like they were negotiating tough with them, but it was all a show.

And this is why, to this day, an opposition party mayoral candidate has a better chance of winning in Havana than in NYC, Phila, Boston, or Chi-town.

I am happy to report that I will shortly be retiring and will no longer paying excess taxes to support this cluster-fuck. Think I'll live on a boat someplace.







"Traditionally, government employees were paid somewhat less than their private-sector counterparts, but the benefits were good and the job security....."


Excellent. Rep on the way.


Who earns more today?

The world is upside down.
 
Public unions came about because they at one time had low wages and few benefits.....no it is different, they went overbaord and the leaders made sure they were set for life on retirement benefits.
 
Public unions came about because they at one time had low wages and few benefits.....no it is different, they went overbaord and the leaders made sure they were set for life on retirement benefits.






"... they went overbaord....."


Ya' think?





"Federal workers earning double their private counterparts

1. .....federal employees' average compensation has grown to more than double what private sector workers earn, a USA TODAY analysis finds.

2. Federal workers have been awarded bigger average pay and benefit increases than private employees for nine years in a row.

3. Federal civil servants earned average pay and benefits of $123,049 in 2009 while private workers made $61,051 in total compensation, according to the Bureau of Economic Analysis.

4. The federal compensation advantage has grown from $30,415 in 2000 to $61,998 last year.

5. "Americans are fed up with public employee pay scales far exceeding that in the private sector," says Rep. Eric Cantor, R-Va., the second-ranking Republican in the House.
Sen. Ted Kaufman, D-Del., says a pay freeze would unfairly scapegoat federal workers without addressing real budget problems.

6. What the data show:
•Benefits. Federal workers received average benefits worth $41,791 in 2009. Most of this was the government's contribution to pensions. Employees contributed an additional $10,569.

•Pay. The average federal salary has grown 33% faster than inflation since 2000. USA TODAY reported in March that the federal government pays an average of 20% more than private firms for comparable occupations. The analysis did not consider differences in experience and education.

•Total compensation. Federal compensation has grown 36.9% since 2000 after adjusting for inflation, compared with 8.8% for private workers"
Federal workers earning double their private counterparts - USATODAY.com
 

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