Publix Grocery Store Under Fire For Refusing to Write Pro-Trans Message On A Cake

[irosie91]

What does this have to do with the mother?

Look you said there was no policy against a 12 year old taking boxing lessons and that you boss supported your decision right? If there was a policy and you violated it would your employer have the right to fire you?

no-----professonal opinion

 

[hadit]

I had no idea a request to write a simple kind message like “trans people people deserve joy” on a cake would trigger so many people or be construed as demanding “special rights”.

Who said anything about rights?

 

[Blues Man]

no-----professonal opinion

I disagree. Your employer had every right to fire you he just chose not to.

 

[Blues Man]

Who said anything about rights?

No one. But these people have to say that writing a word on a cake violates their rights somehow

 

[irosie91]

I disagree. Your employer had every right to fire you he just chose not to.

He is smart enough to know that I had good reason to keep a 12 year old boy
out of boxing----based on our profession

 

[Blues Man]

He is smart enough to know that I had good reason to keep a 12 year old boy
out of boxing----based on our profession

Still it was his prerogative to fire you if he wished. You don't seem to understand that.

 

[hadit]

No one. But these people have to say that writing a word on a cake violates their rights somehow

That's too simplistic. Government forcing speech, such as using the force of law to make bakers write things on cakes they don't want to write is violating rights. At this point, that's not yet happening, but as we have seen in other cases, it rarely stops with the customer just going somewhere else and leaving a negative review.

 

[Blues Man]

That's too simplistic. Government forcing speech, such as using the force of law to make bakers write things on cakes they don't want to write is violating rights. At this point, that's not yet happening, but as we have seen in other cases, it rarely stops with the customer just going somewhere else and leaving a negative review.

The government isn't forcing speech.

Your employer cannot violate your First Amendment rights. Your employer can ban the wearing of political slogans, can tell you what and what you cannot say to other coworkers or customers can require a dress code etc.

This person was an employee of the Publix corporation and as such is bound to comply with company policies as a requirement of his employment.

 

[irosie91]

Still it was his prerogative to fire you if he wished. You don't seem to understand that.

nope---I rendered a decision consistent with my professional
judgement

 

[Blues Man]

nope---I rendered a decision consistent with my professional
judgement

And if he disagreed he could have fired you.

 

[hadit]

The government isn't forcing speech.

Your employer cannot violate your First Amendment rights. Your employer can ban the wearing of political slogans, can tell you what and what you cannot say to other coworkers or customers can require a dress code etc.

This person was an employee of the Publix corporation and as such is bound to comply with company policies as a requirement of his employment.

Did you actually read what I wrote?

"At this point, that's not yet happening, but as we have seen in other cases, it rarely stops with the customer just going somewhere else and leaving a negative review".

And you have no First Amendment in the private sector. An employer can indeed compel you to say things or forbid you from saying things at the cost of employment. We all know that.

 

[PredFan]

How are they “getting in your face”? I’m not seeing that except in places like this.

Is it because of the controversies around women’s sports and restrooms?

Is it because they are now visibly exist? Are standing up for themselves?

1. They are coming after our children.
2. They are screaming at us in public.
3 They are forcing us to play a part in their fantasy by insisting on punishment for not using their chosen pronouns.

 

[Road Runner]

Nowhere is being transgender a sin.

Deuteronomy 22:5 "There shall not be an article of a man upon a woman, because everyone doing these things is an abomination of the Lord your God.

And you don't have to accept all that is being asked is that you TOLERATE others.

If they leave me alone and leave kids alone with their agenda then they will be tolerated from me. If not we'll have problems.

 

[marvin martian]

From the article…

The woman, who was purchasing the cake for a pro-trans campaign at her job, claimed that she asked for the message to be put on the cake with icing. However, the bakery decorated the cake with the words "people deserve joy," and provided the customer extra icing so she could add the word "trans" herself.


So…she couldn’t even bring herself to write “trans people deserve joy” - what the hell?

How is that even controversial? Everyone deserves joy…you would think.

The left needs to figure out whether they support free speech, or not.







Spoiler: they don't support free speech.

 

[Skylar]

The left needs to figure out whether they support free speech, or not.







Spoiler: they don't support free speech.

How's the book banning and using the power of the State to suppress political speech going?

 

[marvin martian]

How's the book banning and using the power of the State to suppress political speech going?

Stopping you from exposing little kids to porn is necessary, unfortunately.

 

[Skylar]

Stopping you from exposing little kids to porn is necessary, unfortunately.

You want to go through the banned book list?

The Bluest Eye is porn?

Brave New World is porn?

The Poet X is porn?

Girls Like Us is porn?

The Haters is porn?

Florida banned all these books. For crying out loud, y'all are doing formal investigations of teachers for showing Disney Movies in class.

And of course, DeSantis targeted Disney to shut down political speech.

But tell us more about 'free speech'.

 

[hadit]

And you don't have to accept all that is being asked is that you TOLERATE others.

Look up the words if you don't know the definitions.

They have a funny way of demanding tolerance. You know, like threatening violence if someone tries to stop an obvious man from following a little girl into a bathroom, that kind of stuff.

 

[PredFan]

You want to go through the banned book list?

The Bluest Eye is porn?

Brave New World is porn?

The Poet X is porn?

Girls Like Us is porn?

The Haters is porn?

Florida banned all these books. For crying out loud, y'all are doing formal investigations of teachers for showing Disney Movies in class.

And of course, DeSantis targeted Disney to shut down political speech.

But tell us more about 'free speech'.

NONE of those books are banned. You want to buy your kids porn? You can get all of those books on Amazon.

 

[Foxfyre]

I'm torn about this. As much as I don't agree with the Transgender agenda, a person has the right to get what they want and are willing to pay for, but at the same time it's their business.

Publix grocery chain apologizes after store bakery refuses to write pro-trans message on cake | Fox News

The customer complained about the refusal on social, saying, 'This is shameful. It was a slap in the face of the reality of the state of the world'

www.foxnews.com

I'm not torn. I believe our Constitution allows people their beliefs and convictions. The store should sell whatever they have for sale to any customer with the cash to buy it. But the customer should not have the right to demand that the store put whatever message on a cake.

Messages that would be problematic for many:
"NAMBLA"
"Teach CRT"
"KKK celebration"
"Abortion rights"
"Abortion is murder"
"White supremacy"
"FJB"
"God is dead"
etc.

Any proprietor should be able to say "No, I'm sorry. I'll be happy to sell you the cake and the icing to write whatever you want on it, but I can't in good conscience write that."

Liberty means those in business can choose what products they will sell, what services they will provide short of violating reasonable laws or knowingly violating somebody's rights.

Everybody has the right to their own choices and preferences. Nobody has the right to force others to condone, let alone participate in celebration, of their choices.