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Why are you fucking Socialists always trying to start a war with the Communists. This shit has been going on for over a century now. Putin got the message. So instead of trying to ruff him up and make our relationship worse Trump is looking for common ground. And it's damn refreshing to not watch Russia kick sand in our president's face like he did Obamakov.

You think that hacking our elections is a way of saying how friendly we are. You are a fucking traitor to this country you Putin loving bastard. Why don't you move to Russia if you think Putin is so friendly. Get your traitorous ass out of this country you traitor.

Until the intelligence agencies actually examine the DNC servers and produce evidence of the hackers nationality we won't know who hacked the server.

Bullshit. I suppose the tooth fairy gave WikiLeaks the hacked e-mails.

Everyone in intel agrees that a country that's hacking can make themselves look like another country. Former CIA director Woolsey said China in particular excelled at that.

And no way in hell should anyone beleive jack shit from CrowdStike. The are DNC employees anti Russian and funded in large part by a Ukrainian oligarch who is tied at the hip with the Clinton Fundation.
Why are you fucking Socialists always trying to start a war with the Communists. This shit has been going on for over a century now. Putin got the message. So instead of trying to ruff him up and make our relationship worse Trump is looking for common ground. And it's damn refreshing to not watch Russia kick sand in our president's face like he did Obamakov.

You think that hacking our elections is a way of saying how friendly we are. You are a fucking traitor to this country you Putin loving bastard. Why don't you move to Russia if you think Putin is so friendly. Get your traitorous ass out of this country you traitor.

Until the intelligence agencies actually examine the DNC servers and produce evidence of the hackers nationality we won't know who hacked the server.

Bullshit. I suppose the tooth fairy gave WikiLeaks the hacked e-mails.

Everyone in intel agrees that a country that's hacking can make themselves look like another country. Former CIA director Woolsey said China in particular excelled at that.

And no way in hell should anyone beleive jack shit from CrowdStike. The are DNC employees anti Russian and funded in large part by a Ukrainian oligarch who is tied at the hip with the Clinton Foundation.

Another crazy conspiracy theory. Your pointy little head must ache sometimes from the tinfoil hats that you have to wear.

It's not a conspiracy theory. It's a fact of hacking life. BTW Woolsey is a former head of the CIA.

Do you really believe Russian hackers would leave a trail saying "Hey guys eeeeeeeeeeeeeeets us". "Hey USA it's Boris!"

:lol:

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After all, you were there.

"... should have went ..."? :laugh:
Putin wants America to strongly resist every move Putin takes to increase Russian power?

Putin wants American to strongly resist every move Putin takes to increase Russian wealth?

PUtin wants America to ring Russia with strong forces and alliances to threaten RUssia?

Cause that's what a Cold War is, and only no reasonable person would think that PUtin wants that.



PUtin wants good relations with the US and there is no reason to not have them.


Give Peace a chance you warmonger.

Every time Russia comes up on this board it's almost like every conservative has totally forgotten who we are dealing with. We are being set up for a fall and Trump is just going to let it happen, when it does you people will still find some way to make it all Obama's fault.


bullshit. Trump is dealing with Russia the same way Reagan dealt with them. From strength and truth.

Bullys like Putin only understand and respect one thing, strength. Obama was weak and was not respected by any world power.

The fact is that Russia is at war with us and Trump seems to want to ignore it. You are pushing bullshit. Reagan was a adult, Trump is a petulant child as is his supporters.
Russia is at war with us?

Obama mocked Romney for saying Russia was an adversary and telling Putin he'd have more flexibility. Who's the Russian stooge again?
The Russia we faced in 2012 was not the Russia we now have to deal with. They had not yet invaded Ukraine, annexed Crimea, increased the misery of the Syrian conflict or mounted an espionage operation against our electoral process. Seriously, quit worrying about what Obama did and start worrying about how your messiah is dealing with Putin right now. Putin has made a calculation that to make Russia a world power again he must push us aside and Trump is helping him with your full unquestioning support.

Put down the freaking bong.They never invaded the Ukraine and Crimea made up of ethnic Russians voted to REJOIN Russia to save themselves from the Nazis in Kiev AND they came to the rescue of the Syrian people from the invading forces the US and the Gulf States backed with weaponry and money to overthrow Assad.

And there is no evidence still that the Russians did anything in the election. None. Zip. Nada.
 
You really need to stop watching so much CNN...this was almost immediately made out to be what it is, again - Fake News.
Trump did not "accept" Putin's response. But obviously he was not going to call him a liar, nor did he say (paraphrase)..."agreeing to you would make me look bad now, but after the election when it can't hurt me, I will be able to give in more' like Obama did. And THAT is not fake news.
No one except your fucked up news sources thinks that Trump's meeting with Putin made the US look good. Your diplomatically retarded president just showed Putin how horrible he is at maintaining our position n the world, we are much diminished by his ignorance.

If you think I this is coming from CNN, you obviously didn't watch Macron's remarks at the closing of the G-20, or any international media.

Russia is claiming that Trump believes Putin and will end the investigation. Both Trump and Putin agreed to put the hacking behind them. Trump will not meddle in Russia's internal affairs (Crimea and Ukraine), and despite Putin's hacking denials, both sides will work on making sure it never happens again.

Good little doggie Trump rolled over and showed Putin his belly in submission.

Friendly meeting with Putin, sour faced with your allies.

Welcome to the new world order.


Pffffft. While the Canadian boy king gets on his knees and fellates all the world leaders at the G20.
 
You are fake news you lying little weasel. We saw exactly what Trump thinks in the press conference. Press conferences show exactly what a individual thinks. Anyone can write a speech but responses in a press conference can't be scripted. Trump criticized our intelligence agencies and said we don't know who hacked our elections. He is more interested in his fantasies that he won the popular vote rather than the fact that Russia is trying to hack our state elections commissions.

By the way, you are aware of the fact that Obama placed sanctions on Russia. They may have been weak but for a pacifist like Obama, it was major. Trump is being taken to the cleaners by Putin and being left to the laundry bill. Putin is a adult and Trump is a petulant child.

Trump had no problem with bringing up the fantasy that Mexico is going to pay for the wall while he was meeting with the Mexican President. Trump ha no idea who are enemies are. Putin is laughing all the way to the bank.

Again, you need to stop watching so much CNN.
The intelligence agencies do NOT know 100% who did it because the DNC has yet to turn their servers over to the FBI. All we have is Democrat operatives saying THEY have evidence it came from Russia, so Trump is absolutely correct that intelligence agencies do not know.
Everything else is CNN, NYT and the alphabet fake news hypothesizing and repeating "some say" "we have reason to believe" etc. etc.
Also, if it is true that it came from Russia, and it probably did, that does not prove that the Russian government was involved let alone that Trump colluded with them...which is absolutely nothing more than theory.
The Russian mafia for instance, does a LOT of hacking worldwide. It is reasonable to believe there is a possibility they did it. But we will never know unless the DNC releases the servers.

Stop drinking the Kool Aid and embarrassing yourself.

You are embarrassing yourself. Mike Pence is not a Democrat operative and he looked at the intelligence and concluded it was true as well. Whether Trump colluded or not is the issue. The Russians interfered in our elections and are continuing to do so.

Pence at one point in time beleived the bullshit that the intel agencies were saying. So did a lot of people. Now that many realize that the DNC servers were never examined by their own agencies and they were relying completely on DNC employees word on it, they are changing their minds.

AND when one realizes how political these agencies had become they are not to be trusted implicitly any more. When even Diane Feinstein called for an investigation into Loretta Lynch you know all hell is about to break loose.

Where has Mike Pence changed his mind? Please provide a link. The fact is that no one has changed their minds. That is a weak and pathetic argument. To support your glorious leader, you are willing to demean Americans who are working hard tp protect our freedom. They have not been polluted by politics. You are trying to play politics. The leak of a report showing how Russians are now hacking state electoral systems shows that it is reality.

Provide evidence or piss off. And many have changed their minds on what happened in last years election. Including Senator Grassley and Senator Feinstein. I'm loving the investigations.

May they continue for the longest time. Loretta Lynch is under investigation. Deputy acting director McCabe is under THREE count em 3 investigations including the FBI's targeting of Flynn in revenge.

That'll drag Comey into the revenge targeting Of General Flynn.

YAY!
 
You are fake news you lying little weasel. We saw exactly what Trump thinks in the press conference. Press conferences show exactly what a individual thinks. Anyone can write a speech but responses in a press conference can't be scripted. Trump criticized our intelligence agencies and said we don't know who hacked our elections. He is more interested in his fantasies that he won the popular vote rather than the fact that Russia is trying to hack our state elections commissions.

By the way, you are aware of the fact that Obama placed sanctions on Russia. They may have been weak but for a pacifist like Obama, it was major. Trump is being taken to the cleaners by Putin and being left to the laundry bill. Putin is a adult and Trump is a petulant child.

Trump had no problem with bringing up the fantasy that Mexico is going to pay for the wall while he was meeting with the Mexican President. Trump ha no idea who are enemies are. Putin is laughing all the way to the bank.

Again, you need to stop watching so much CNN.
The intelligence agencies do NOT know 100% who did it because the DNC has yet to turn their servers over to the FBI. All we have is Democrat operatives saying THEY have evidence it came from Russia, so Trump is absolutely correct that intelligence agencies do not know.
Everything else is CNN, NYT and the alphabet fake news hypothesizing and repeating "some say" "we have reason to believe" etc. etc.
Also, if it is true that it came from Russia, and it probably did, that does not prove that the Russian government was involved let alone that Trump colluded with them...which is absolutely nothing more than theory.
The Russian mafia for instance, does a LOT of hacking worldwide. It is reasonable to believe there is a possibility they did it. But we will never know unless the DNC releases the servers.

Stop drinking the Kool Aid and embarrassing yourself.

You are embarrassing yourself. Mike Pence is not a Democrat operative and he looked at the intelligence and concluded it was true as well. Whether Trump colluded or not is the issue. The Russians interfered in our elections and are continuing to do so.

Pence at one point in time beleived the bullshit that the intel agencies were saying. So did a lot of people. Now that many realize that the DNC servers were never examined by their own agencies and they were relying completely on DNC employees word on it, they are changing their minds.

AND when one realizes how political these agencies had become they are not to be trusted implicitly any more. When even Diane Feinstein called for an investigation into Loretta Lynch you know all hell is about to break loose.

Where has Mike Pence changed his mind? Please provide a link. The fact is that no one has changed their minds. That is a weak and pathetic argument. To support your glorious leader, you are willing to demean Americans who are working hard tp protect our freedom. They have not been polluted by politics. You are trying to play politics. The leak of a report showing how Russians are now hacking state electoral systems shows that it is reality.

Provide evidence or piss off. And many have changed their minds on what happened in last years election. Including Senator Grassley and Senator Feinstein. I'm loving the investigations.

May they continue for the longest time. Loretta Lynch is under investigation. Deputy acting director McCabe is under THREE count em 3 investigations including the FBI's targeting of Flynn in revenge.

That'll drag Comey into the revenge targeting Of General Flynn.

YAY!
Tiny are you an American or republican?
 
From the much awaited Putin-Trump meeting, we can conclude that Putin got ALL that he wanted, and the first hint of what was to happen could be discerned from the lack of transparency regarding what the meeting really addressed.

Putin got what he wanted.......To have Russia, once again, be recognized as a world power in par with the U.S.

Regarding the Russian hacking, Trump has long "cleared" Putin of any wrong doings, as Putin clearly wanted..............Had this meeting yielded a thorough transcript of Trump .....as a "strong" leader........stating, "Look Putin, my intelligence agencies are very good and they tell me that you DID interfere in our elections and this MUST STOP or Russia will be subjected to additional sanctions and retaliatory actions against the Russian Government...."...........and had that exchange been recorded, Trump would have GAINED respect for both the left and the right in our country.......But, instead, Trump opted to be Putin's stooge and simply concluded that whatever the past may or may not be....."let's proceed as if nothing happened"...

The U.S. "lost" and Putin "won"........If anything, this meeting was strictly a business one, where Rex probably got a nod from the Russian to drill in the arctic, and conceded that Russia could be belligerent all that country may want regarding the Ukraine and other Russian bordering countries. (and, of course, installing any missile defense in Poland is just another "gift" to both our military complex spending AND a great tool for Putin to also claim to be the "defender" of Russian sovereignty along that border.)

Bottom line.........Putin comes off stronger, and the U.S. as compliant....Some "art of the deal", don't you think?


So, what exactly do you WANT from Russia?

Obviously President Obama couldn't handle Putin. What has the community organizer done to show himself the stronger leader of the two powers? How many soviet fly bys and reset buttons did the administration need, when they weren't otherwise making uranium deals?
 
Every time Russia comes up on this board it's almost like every conservative has totally forgotten who we are dealing with. We are being set up for a fall and Trump is just going to let it happen, when it does you people will still find some way to make it all Obama's fault.


bullshit. Trump is dealing with Russia the same way Reagan dealt with them. From strength and truth.

Bullys like Putin only understand and respect one thing, strength. Obama was weak and was not respected by any world power.

The fact is that Russia is at war with us and Trump seems to want to ignore it. You are pushing bullshit. Reagan was a adult, Trump is a petulant child as is his supporters.
Russia is at war with us?

Obama mocked Romney for saying Russia was an adversary and telling Putin he'd have more flexibility. Who's the Russian stooge again?
The Russia we faced in 2012 was not the Russia we now have to deal with. They had not yet invaded Ukraine, annexed Crimea, increased the misery of the Syrian conflict or mounted an espionage operation against our electoral process. Seriously, quit worrying about what Obama did and start worrying about how your messiah is dealing with Putin right now. Putin has made a calculation that to make Russia a world power again he must push us aside and Trump is helping him with your full unquestioning support.

Put down the freaking bong.They never invaded the Ukraine and Crimea made up of ethnic Russians voted to REJOIN Russia to save themselves from the Nazis in Kiev AND they came to the rescue of the Syrian people from the invading forces the US and the Gulf States backed with weaponry and money to overthrow Assad.

And there is no evidence still that the Russians did anything in the election. None. Zip. Nada.
Go suck borscht Russian scum.
 
And it's damn refreshing to not watch Russia kick sand in our president's face like he did Obamakov.


Hey, moron........Do you wonder WHY Putin hated Obama and Clinton?....It was NOT because Putin was "enjoying" kicking sand in the US face..........

More like Putin rolling his eyes when Obama attempted to act tough towards Russia, because when it came down to foreign policy and Russia. neither weren't much for world leaders.
 
bullshit. Trump is dealing with Russia the same way Reagan dealt with them. From strength and truth.

Bullys like Putin only understand and respect one thing, strength. Obama was weak and was not respected by any world power.

The fact is that Russia is at war with us and Trump seems to want to ignore it. You are pushing bullshit. Reagan was a adult, Trump is a petulant child as is his supporters.
Russia is at war with us?

Obama mocked Romney for saying Russia was an adversary and telling Putin he'd have more flexibility. Who's the Russian stooge again?
The Russia we faced in 2012 was not the Russia we now have to deal with. They had not yet invaded Ukraine, annexed Crimea, increased the misery of the Syrian conflict or mounted an espionage operation against our electoral process. Seriously, quit worrying about what Obama did and start worrying about how your messiah is dealing with Putin right now. Putin has made a calculation that to make Russia a world power again he must push us aside and Trump is helping him with your full unquestioning support.

Put down the freaking bong.They never invaded the Ukraine and Crimea made up of ethnic Russians voted to REJOIN Russia to save themselves from the Nazis in Kiev AND they came to the rescue of the Syrian people from the invading forces the US and the Gulf States backed with weaponry and money to overthrow Assad.

And there is no evidence still that the Russians did anything in the election. None. Zip. Nada.
Go suck borscht Russian scum.

Piss of you left wing wanker. Back up your accusations or look like the talking point fool you are.
 
Bush43 and Obama both removed leaders that kept those people in check, with no gain for the United States. Obama's open and vocal support of the Muslim Brotherhood over Mubarak in Egypt was the most obvious in intent.

Makes one wonder.

Well, you may be correct.......It is BETTER to have brutal dictators in the ME for us to sell weaponry to them.....Just ask the Saudis.

How does toppling Assad for Isis change the fact that Syria is ruled by a brutal dictatorship?

Well first off it's not a brutal dictatorship. Never has been. Beleive it or not as compared to some of our allies in the ME Assad is quite secular. Respects all religions. Women have full rights. As compared to the countries run by Sunnis.

The extremist groups are all Sunni and of course they took away womens rights in Syria and in the territories they seized in Iraq.

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The harsh rules that some groups are administering in areas under their control in northern and northeastern Syria violate women’s and girls’ human rights and limit their ability to carry out essential daily activities.

Human Rights Watch interviewed 43 refugees from Syria in Iraqi Kurdistan and conducted telephone interviews with two refugees from Syria in Turkey in November and December 2013. The refugees interviewed said that the extremist armed groups Jabhat al-Nusra and the Islamic State of Iraq and Sham (ISIS) have enforced their interpretation of Sharia, or Islamic law, by requiring women and girls to wear headscarves (hijabs) and full-length robes (abayas), and threatening to punish those who do not comply. In some areas, the groups are imposing discriminatory measures prohibiting women and girls, particularly those who do not abide by the dress code, from moving freely in public, working, and attending school.

“Extremist groups like ISIS and Jabhat al-Nusra are undermining the freedoms that Syria’s women and girls enjoyed, which were a longtime strength of Syrian society,” said Liesl Gerntholtz, women’s rights director at Human Rights Watch. “What kind of victory do these groups promise for women and girls who are watching their rights slip away.”

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I am aware of that. However as far as I'm concerned killing your own people is brutal. I just don't see how backing Isis an even more brutal and evil regime is a good idea.

If we have any interests in Syria they are to destroy Isis. That would align us with Assad and Russia not against. Since I'd prefer not to back them either prudence dictates we should let them fight amongst themselves and stat out of it. Either that or train the refugees to go fight both of them so they stay out of our countries

I'd like to continue on that brutal dictatorship point. I'd like to see our alliances broken with the brutal monarchies in the region that kill their own people and suppress human rights and yet we are still best buddies with the worst regimes.

What really terrifies me is that Erdogan is a madman in Turkey. All sorts of human rights abuses. AND yet Turkey has the largest deposit of NATO's nuclear weapons.

That knowledge does not give me a warm and fuzzy. I guess I just don't understand how and why we took out Mubarak for example. Secular and as far as dictators go, not bad. Dear heavens I hate saying that but it's true.

I judge Assad that way as well. It's never been a civil war in Syria. Not when you have Sunni jihadists from 84 different countries fighting a war with weapons supplied by all the Sunni states around Syria.

It's been a farce from the beginning. Ditto all the other Arab Spring fake uprisings.

I don't disagree. It seems like we are only siding with Sunni governments over secular or Shiite ones but I can't tell if that design or coincidence.
 
From the much awaited Putin-Trump meeting, we can conclude that Putin got ALL that he wanted, and the first hint of what was to happen could be discerned from the lack of transparency regarding what the meeting really addressed.

Putin got what he wanted.......To have Russia, once again, be recognized as a world power in par with the U.S.

Regarding the Russian hacking, Trump has long "cleared" Putin of any wrong doings, as Putin clearly wanted..............Had this meeting yielded a thorough transcript of Trump .....as a "strong" leader........stating, "Look Putin, my intelligence agencies are very good and they tell me that you DID interfere in our elections and this MUST STOP or Russia will be subjected to additional sanctions and retaliatory actions against the Russian Government...."...........and had that exchange been recorded, Trump would have GAINED respect for both the left and the right in our country.......But, instead, Trump opted to be Putin's stooge and simply concluded that whatever the past may or may not be....."let's proceed as if nothing happened"...

The U.S. "lost" and Putin "won"........If anything, this meeting was strictly a business one, where Rex probably got a nod from the Russian to drill in the arctic, and conceded that Russia could be belligerent all that country may want regarding the Ukraine and other Russian bordering countries. (and, of course, installing any missile defense in Poland is just another "gift" to both our military complex spending AND a great tool for Putin to also claim to be the "defender" of Russian sovereignty along that border.)

Bottom line.........Putin comes off stronger, and the U.S. as compliant....Some "art of the deal", don't you think?



Why are you fucking Socialists always trying to start a war with the Communists. This shit has been going on for over a century now. Putin got the message. So instead of trying to ruff him up and make our relationship worse Trump is looking for common ground. And it's damn refreshing to not watch Russia kick sand in our president's face like he did Obamakov.

You think that hacking our elections is a way of saying how friendly we are. You are a fucking traitor to this country you Putin loving bastard. Why don't you move to Russia if you think Putin is so friendly. Get your traitorous ass out of this country you traitor.

Until the intelligence agencies actually examine the DNC servers and produce evidence of the hackers nationality we won't know who hacked the server.

Especially when we know the cia has a program to make it look like Russians are hacking. Which program was leaked to just about anyone who wants to use it
 
From the much awaited Putin-Trump meeting, we can conclude that Putin got ALL that he wanted, and the first hint of what was to happen could be discerned from the lack of transparency regarding what the meeting really addressed.

Putin got what he wanted.......To have Russia, once again, be recognized as a world power in par with the U.S.

Regarding the Russian hacking, Trump has long "cleared" Putin of any wrong doings, as Putin clearly wanted..............Had this meeting yielded a thorough transcript of Trump .....as a "strong" leader........stating, "Look Putin, my intelligence agencies are very good and they tell me that you DID interfere in our elections and this MUST STOP or Russia will be subjected to additional sanctions and retaliatory actions against the Russian Government...."...........and had that exchange been recorded, Trump would have GAINED respect for both the left and the right in our country.......But, instead, Trump opted to be Putin's stooge and simply concluded that whatever the past may or may not be....."let's proceed as if nothing happened"...

The U.S. "lost" and Putin "won"........If anything, this meeting was strictly a business one, where Rex probably got a nod from the Russian to drill in the arctic, and conceded that Russia could be belligerent all that country may want regarding the Ukraine and other Russian bordering countries. (and, of course, installing any missile defense in Poland is just another "gift" to both our military complex spending AND a great tool for Putin to also claim to be the "defender" of Russian sovereignty along that border.)

Bottom line.........Putin comes off stronger, and the U.S. as compliant....Some "art of the deal", don't you think?



Why are you fucking Socialists always trying to start a war with the Communists. This shit has been going on for over a century now. Putin got the message. So instead of trying to ruff him up and make our relationship worse Trump is looking for common ground. And it's damn refreshing to not watch Russia kick sand in our president's face like he did Obamakov.

You think that hacking our elections is a way of saying how friendly we are. You are a fucking traitor to this country you Putin loving bastard. Why don't you move to Russia if you think Putin is so friendly. Get your traitorous ass out of this country you traitor.

Until the intelligence agencies actually examine the DNC servers and produce evidence of the hackers nationality we won't know who hacked the server.

Especially when we know the cia has a program to make it look like Russians are hacking. Which program was leaked to just about anyone who wants to use it
Enough of this republican sickness for the day Stew in your own BS
 
It must be true, I read it on the Internet!
Dumbass.


You fuckheads need to get together and decide if you DO want links or you do not want links.......

Of course, you can always openly say that the ONLY links you want are from Breitbart and Daily Caller......LOL

You weren't asked for links. You were asked for evidence.

I would have thought you'd know the difference.
 
It must be true, I read it on the Internet!
Dumbass.


You fuckheads need to get together and decide if you DO want links or you do not want links.......

Of course, you can always openly say that the ONLY links you want are from Breitbart and Daily Caller......LOL

You weren't asked for links. You were asked for evidence.

I would have thought you'd know the difference.
Putin said Trump satisfied with his answers lol a real AH trump is and I'm disrespecting AH's
 
Look
I'll leave it up to smart democrats to continue this amusing thread......

My wife rules and she wants me off this bashing of right wingers......LOL

Smart democrats?

When you find them have them run for office. They might not lose so badly
 
You are fake news you lying little weasel. We saw exactly what Trump thinks in the press conference. Press conferences show exactly what a individual thinks. Anyone can write a speech but responses in a press conference can't be scripted. Trump criticized our intelligence agencies and said we don't know who hacked our elections. He is more interested in his fantasies that he won the popular vote rather than the fact that Russia is trying to hack our state elections commissions.

By the way, you are aware of the fact that Obama placed sanctions on Russia. They may have been weak but for a pacifist like Obama, it was major. Trump is being taken to the cleaners by Putin and being left to the laundry bill. Putin is a adult and Trump is a petulant child.

Trump had no problem with bringing up the fantasy that Mexico is going to pay for the wall while he was meeting with the Mexican President. Trump ha no idea who are enemies are. Putin is laughing all the way to the bank.

Again, you need to stop watching so much CNN.
The intelligence agencies do NOT know 100% who did it because the DNC has yet to turn their servers over to the FBI. All we have is Democrat operatives saying THEY have evidence it came from Russia, so Trump is absolutely correct that intelligence agencies do not know.
Everything else is CNN, NYT and the alphabet fake news hypothesizing and repeating "some say" "we have reason to believe" etc. etc.
Also, if it is true that it came from Russia, and it probably did, that does not prove that the Russian government was involved let alone that Trump colluded with them...which is absolutely nothing more than theory.
The Russian mafia for instance, does a LOT of hacking worldwide. It is reasonable to believe there is a possibility they did it. But we will never know unless the DNC releases the servers.

Stop drinking the Kool Aid and embarrassing yourself.

You are embarrassing yourself. Mike Pence is not a Democrat operative and he looked at the intelligence and concluded it was true as well. Whether Trump colluded or not is the issue. The Russians interfered in our elections and are continuing to do so.

Evidence of what? Russia may have hacked something, but do we know what it hacked? No, all we have are some claims that are supported only by super duper double top secret evidence that no one can see.

Left are just pissed America learned the truth about Hillary. Whoever did it should get a medal.

You learned nothing about Hillary because her emails weren't hacked. You learned what the Russians wanted you to learned - nothing more. You learned that the Party wanted a. Democrat to win the nomination, not an independent. And that the Clinton campaign disagreed with doing so.

You saw discussions designed to make the Clinton Campaign look bad but not the outcome if those discussions.

Had the hackers released the stuff they founded on the RNC servers, you would have had much more salacious material given the lengths they went to trying stop Trump from becoming their nominee.

Putin wanted TRump and now you've seen why.

Prove it or you're posting nothing but a big Democrat fairy tale. You might as well post under Hans Christian Anderson and begin each post with "Once upon a time".

Just another delusional liberal.
 
Again, you need to stop watching so much CNN.
The intelligence agencies do NOT know 100% who did it because the DNC has yet to turn their servers over to the FBI. All we have is Democrat operatives saying THEY have evidence it came from Russia, so Trump is absolutely correct that intelligence agencies do not know.
Everything else is CNN, NYT and the alphabet fake news hypothesizing and repeating "some say" "we have reason to believe" etc. etc.
Also, if it is true that it came from Russia, and it probably did, that does not prove that the Russian government was involved let alone that Trump colluded with them...which is absolutely nothing more than theory.
The Russian mafia for instance, does a LOT of hacking worldwide. It is reasonable to believe there is a possibility they did it. But we will never know unless the DNC releases the servers.

Stop drinking the Kool Aid and embarrassing yourself.

You are embarrassing yourself. Mike Pence is not a Democrat operative and he looked at the intelligence and concluded it was true as well. Whether Trump colluded or not is the issue. The Russians interfered in our elections and are continuing to do so.

Pence at one point in time beleived the bullshit that the intel agencies were saying. So did a lot of people. Now that many realize that the DNC servers were never examined by their own agencies and they were relying completely on DNC employees word on it, they are changing their minds.

AND when one realizes how political these agencies had become they are not to be trusted implicitly any more. When even Diane Feinstein called for an investigation into Loretta Lynch you know all hell is about to break loose.

Where has Mike Pence changed his mind? Please provide a link. The fact is that no one has changed their minds. That is a weak and pathetic argument. To support your glorious leader, you are willing to demean Americans who are working hard tp protect our freedom. They have not been polluted by politics. You are trying to play politics. The leak of a report showing how Russians are now hacking state electoral systems shows that it is reality.

Provide evidence or piss off. And many have changed their minds on what happened in last years election. Including Senator Grassley and Senator Feinstein. I'm loving the investigations.

May they continue for the longest time. Loretta Lynch is under investigation. Deputy acting director McCabe is under THREE count em 3 investigations including the FBI's targeting of Flynn in revenge.

That'll drag Comey into the revenge targeting Of General Flynn.

YAY!
Tiny are you an American or republican?

Dual citizenshiip. America/Canada. And I'm a classical liberal which means these days politically I'm a conservative.
 
From the much awaited Putin-Trump meeting, we can conclude that Putin got ALL that he wanted, and the first hint of what was to happen could be discerned from the lack of transparency regarding what the meeting really addressed.

Putin got what he wanted.......To have Russia, once again, be recognized as a world power in par with the U.S.

Regarding the Russian hacking, Trump has long "cleared" Putin of any wrong doings, as Putin clearly wanted..............Had this meeting yielded a thorough transcript of Trump .....as a "strong" leader........stating, "Look Putin, my intelligence agencies are very good and they tell me that you DID interfere in our elections and this MUST STOP or Russia will be subjected to additional sanctions and retaliatory actions against the Russian Government...."...........and had that exchange been recorded, Trump would have GAINED respect for both the left and the right in our country.......But, instead, Trump opted to be Putin's stooge and simply concluded that whatever the past may or may not be....."let's proceed as if nothing happened"...

The U.S. "lost" and Putin "won"........If anything, this meeting was strictly a business one, where Rex probably got a nod from the Russian to drill in the arctic, and conceded that Russia could be belligerent all that country may want regarding the Ukraine and other Russian bordering countries. (and, of course, installing any missile defense in Poland is just another "gift" to both our military complex spending AND a great tool for Putin to also claim to be the "defender" of Russian sovereignty along that border.)

Bottom line.........Putin comes off stronger, and the U.S. as compliant....Some "art of the deal", don't you think?



Why are you fucking Socialists always trying to start a war with the Communists. This shit has been going on for over a century now. Putin got the message. So instead of trying to ruff him up and make our relationship worse Trump is looking for common ground. And it's damn refreshing to not watch Russia kick sand in our president's face like he did Obamakov.

You think that hacking our elections is a way of saying how friendly we are. You are a fucking traitor to this country you Putin loving bastard. Why don't you move to Russia if you think Putin is so friendly. Get your traitorous ass out of this country you traitor.

Until the intelligence agencies actually examine the DNC servers and produce evidence of the hackers nationality we won't know who hacked the server.

Especially when we know the cia has a program to make it look like Russians are hacking. Which program was leaked to just about anyone who wants to use it
Enough of this republican sickness for the day Stew in your own BS

Why is the truth sick to you?

We know anyone who wants it has the tech to look like the Russians hacking

We know the DNC has not allowed any government agency to examine their servers.

We have multiple agency heads testify under oath that the Russians had no success impacting the election.

This is all on the record. Why shouldn't we believe it?
 
Does the angry left really want to play the "we can conclude" game after they concluded that Hillary would win?


When ALL else fails......fucked up right wingers will always bring up Hillary....
be proud, right wingers.....LOL,
Conservatives: masters of the red herring fallacy.

Actually there are several branches of conservatism. One are the fake conservatives. These are people who claim to be conservatives but have swallowed the Trump Kool-Aid all the way. They are fake conservatives. Then there are those of us who have not abandoned our principles. We are the true conservatives.

I'm a true conservative and I've read your comments, you're no conservative
 

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