ColonelAngus
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Funny how snowflakes dismiss that Seth Rich was involved with the DNC email leak, but have no trouble at all claiming that Trump will kill hundreds of thousands of people if Obama is repealed.
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what did they do? what's the crime? state it.Love to see Trump jr and Kirshner do time 2 thieves in a podNo one seems to care, with CLINTON & OBAMA Sycophants leaking classified information all over THE FUCKING PLACE, that there have been ZERO LEAKS about any so called EVIDENCE of RUSSIAN HACKING or Collusion.
Has anyone even given one minute of thought to that?
Comey can't leak to Mueller because he doesn't know anything more than he did and if Mueller catches him leaking to the NYTimes again, he'll have to prosecute his buddy.
Mueller and his Army of Attorneys are not there to prosecute anyone. Only if they are forced in to it by leaked information of some sort that would give them no choice.
They are The Cleanup Crew.
Mueller was appointed to sweep Comey, Obama's, Lynch's, Rice's & The DNC and Clinton's Crimes and others under the rug.
Comey botched the job. Now Mueller has to extricate THE DNC and THE OBAMA REGIME out of the mess they put themselves in with their FALSE RUSSIAN NARRATIVE without exposing anyone and specifically without Subpoenaing THE DNC SERVER.
I'd actually be shocked if anyone is prosecuted unless Mueller is forced to create a scapegoat or two who will fall on their sword and keep their mouths shut.
Funny how snowflakes dismiss that Seth Rich was involved with the DNC email leak, but have no trouble at all claiming that Trump will kill hundreds of thousands of people if Obama is repealed.
again, the proof they hurt her is in her loss. There wouldn't need to be the whole Russia, Russia, thingy if there wasn't anything there, or butt hurt after the loss. just wouldn't. your premise is all wrong.There was nothing in those emails that was sufficient to blackmail - it was mostly noise, innuendo and distraction and it served their purpose - sow chaos, distrust in our institutions (media, intelligence, electoral system) by hacking, dissiminating through wikileaks, and propogating fake news
Which would have MORE effective if Clinton had gained POWER and was trying to run an Admin. There was ENOUGH in those DNC emails to cause a chain of resignations, and DOMINATE the news cycle for months. Had all the jabs at Bernie's campaign been released as BLACKMAIL to get favorable deals from a Clinton Admin, it most CERTAINLY would cast doubt on the validity of her election and hobble her effectiveness..
I disagree - what was in the emails that was actually "black mailible" - nothing. Think about it closely. Most of it was "noise" - pre-election noise. There was nothing criminal, or even really embarressing for her. And she's not political novice - she's been scrutinized and investigated more than any other candidate, and she has a lengthy political history behind her.
Even the jabs at Bernie's campaign - nothing illegal, nothing that doesn't occur typically in primary politics (the contact sport)...it was EMBARRASSING to the DNC but had no substantial impact on Clinton's ability to govern has she won and to think they could use it for blackmail as opposed to simple disruption would be highly risky because in all likelihood - she'd laugh at them. Russia has a long history of attempting to disrupt democratic process through disinformation, propoganda etc - from back in the Soviet days, this is right in line with what they typically do only now it's a lot easier.
And yet -- as you've been told by various posters here and in other threads. Getting sanctions lifted is EXACTLY what the Podesta Group was hired to do. During the fucking campaign. So how sincere was Clinton's commitment to being "tough on Russia" when her CAMPAIGN MGR is a paid lobbyist for SberBank controlling 1/3 of the total assets in Russia?
This is likely LESS about Putin and MORE about the way the Russian economy is run and controlled by several HUNDRED oligarchs and Mafioso types that Putin is buddies with. They all compete. They ALL hire influence in foreign govts and they all conduct their OWN "foreign intel". INDEPENDENT of FSB/GRU/KGB... For instance, Manafort and Podesta COMPETED for consulting status with some of these same Oligarchy interests. Both in Russia and in the Ukraine. There's a LOT more here than Putin having a circus of inept, incapable clowns in his Intel CyberWar groups.
And there were US investments and money at stake in WHO dominated in the Russian markets. See the huge number of shares of Russian stocks GIVEN to Podesta for his efforts..
In all likelyhood - Russia approached many (including Trump campaign staff and associates) in attempts to get sanctions lifted. Clinton's commitment to Russian sanctions is clear in her own political record regardless of what Podesta might or might not be doing.
Putin has VERY capable "clowns" in his CyberWar groups - extremely so since it took us this long to figure out what they've been chipping away at for a long time and leaving few traces. The only reason we were so clueless before was our people didn't know what to look for before. But eventually, even the best hackers leave traces.
Putin is cold blooded, shrewed and calculating. He's effectively shut down media watchdogs and political dissidents. He has a proven reputation of poisoning or assassinating whistle blowers, journalists, dissidents and political opposition. It's even quite possible that he himself engineered the bombings in the middle of the night...killing hundreds of sleeping people when they pancaked...and blamed on "Chechnyan terrorists". An action that, brought him in to political power. Putin takes the long view on global politics. It doesn't pay to underestimate him.
Nope.. Only requires the CONCENTRATED power vested in proven deviants and liars as James Clapper. HE was the POLITICAL appointee that tasked all the agencies for Admin goals and policies. He's a POLITICAL operative at that point. Despite his years of actual service to these agencies. His NEW job gave him "cross program" access that LITERALLY -- less than a dozen people possess. So just that ONE and maybe a few flaming partisans in other areas like the FBI or DOJ or HSecurity would be sufficient to CORRUPT and weaponize the Intel agencies for political hijinks...
THAT is nightmare of EVERY faithful patriotic person who has served in the Intel areas. And for DECADES the chances of that EVER happening were close to Nil.. Until 9/11 and the Patriot Act and the consolidation of POLITICAL power in Admin controlled new positions and groups were created. Along with that awesome Big Brother Domestic spying operation we ALL have to cope with.. It's a doomsday scenario. An Intel infrastructure political insurgency could take this Republic down in a year...
I totally disagree - you would have to have the press, the Republican congress, and everyone in the intelligence community in on it at the very least and when you consider how leaky and partisan everything is now - there is no way it could be hidden - not from the media and not from the Republicans, and they aren't denying it was Russia.
Everything you assert -- contradicts the basic evidence. Putin's "clowns" got caught EVERY TIME. Professionals don't. There was MASSIVE embarrassment about the content of Podesta/DNC emails. If there wasn't --- it wouldn't have been "a thing" for 4 months. And there wouldn't have been 2 new DNC chairs since.
It doesn't contradict basic evidence at all - it contradicts your opinion of the evidence.
How do you KNOW they get caught "every time"? You don't. We also catch NK and Chinese hackers - and they are hardly amateur either. But I doubt we even catch them all the time.
There was embarressment about the DNC emails - but when all the noise died down - there really wasn't much of substance, there was nothing illegal, and nothing worth blackmail. Why was it "a thing" for 4 months? Have you considered the fact that there was an highly partisan election ongoing that might have made and kept it in the media attention - not to mention lots of real and fake news, promises of new leaks of emails etc to keep it in the news? Very skillfully done but you and I both know what becomes news and waht stays in the news isn't necessarily what's important right?
The DNC chairs resigned because it was embarrassing for the DNC and - they could not effectively do their jobs with that sort of media blitz.
So you're ignoring what ACTUALLY occurred in order to attempt to contradict the statements I made about how Russian Intel operates.
And NOBODY else was required to "be in on it". Those documents carried the stamp of approval from "all 17 Intel Agencies..(Except that they didn't -- It was a total Crapper production after all)..
Stick to "the narrative". Ignore how things work. That's why the left never actually UNDERSTANDS how things work...
I am paying attention to what actually occurred.
If the Russians didn't do it - there would not be agreement, someone would speak out and for sure the REPUBLICANS would use it! That's why it would have to be a conspiracy and that takes a much bigger leap of faith than does Putin, acting as Putin has acted for some time now, and doing what Russia/USSR has long done.
me personally, I stated that Seth Rich had the emails and it was no hack. I've never said anything else. Assange admitted who he got the info from. I have faith he's telling the truth. he isn't a politician. There was never a hack. EVAH!!!!!again, the proof they hurt her is in her loss. There wouldn't need to be the whole Russia, Russia, thingy if there wasn't anything there, or butt hurt after the loss. just wouldn't. your premise is all wrong.Which would have MORE effective if Clinton had gained POWER and was trying to run an Admin. There was ENOUGH in those DNC emails to cause a chain of resignations, and DOMINATE the news cycle for months. Had all the jabs at Bernie's campaign been released as BLACKMAIL to get favorable deals from a Clinton Admin, it most CERTAINLY would cast doubt on the validity of her election and hobble her effectiveness..
In all likelyhood - Russia approached many (including Trump campaign staff and associates) in attempts to get sanctions lifted. Clinton's commitment to Russian sanctions is clear in her own political record regardless of what Podesta might or might not be doing.
Putin has VERY capable "clowns" in his CyberWar groups - extremely so since it took us this long to figure out what they've been chipping away at for a long time and leaving few traces. The only reason we were so clueless before was our people didn't know what to look for before. But eventually, even the best hackers leave traces.
Putin is cold blooded, shrewed and calculating. He's effectively shut down media watchdogs and political dissidents. He has a proven reputation of poisoning or assassinating whistle blowers, journalists, dissidents and political opposition. It's even quite possible that he himself engineered the bombings in the middle of the night...killing hundreds of sleeping people when they pancaked...and blamed on "Chechnyan terrorists". An action that, brought him in to political power. Putin takes the long view on global politics. It doesn't pay to underestimate him.
I totally disagree - you would have to have the press, the Republican congress, and everyone in the intelligence community in on it at the very least and when you consider how leaky and partisan everything is now - there is no way it could be hidden - not from the media and not from the Republicans, and they aren't denying it was Russia.
Everything you assert -- contradicts the basic evidence. Putin's "clowns" got caught EVERY TIME. Professionals don't. There was MASSIVE embarrassment about the content of Podesta/DNC emails. If there wasn't --- it wouldn't have been "a thing" for 4 months. And there wouldn't have been 2 new DNC chairs since.
It doesn't contradict basic evidence at all - it contradicts your opinion of the evidence.
How do you KNOW they get caught "every time"? You don't. We also catch NK and Chinese hackers - and they are hardly amateur either. But I doubt we even catch them all the time.
There was embarressment about the DNC emails - but when all the noise died down - there really wasn't much of substance, there was nothing illegal, and nothing worth blackmail. Why was it "a thing" for 4 months? Have you considered the fact that there was an highly partisan election ongoing that might have made and kept it in the media attention - not to mention lots of real and fake news, promises of new leaks of emails etc to keep it in the news? Very skillfully done but you and I both know what becomes news and waht stays in the news isn't necessarily what's important right?
The DNC chairs resigned because it was embarrassing for the DNC and - they could not effectively do their jobs with that sort of media blitz.
So you're ignoring what ACTUALLY occurred in order to attempt to contradict the statements I made about how Russian Intel operates.
And NOBODY else was required to "be in on it". Those documents carried the stamp of approval from "all 17 Intel Agencies..(Except that they didn't -- It was a total Crapper production after all)..
Stick to "the narrative". Ignore how things work. That's why the left never actually UNDERSTANDS how things work...
I am paying attention to what actually occurred.
If the Russians didn't do it - there would not be agreement, someone would speak out and for sure the REPUBLICANS would use it! That's why it would have to be a conspiracy and that takes a much bigger leap of faith than does Putin, acting as Putin has acted for some time now, and doing what Russia/USSR has long done.
Hold on a second. You need to get your story straight. Weren't you previously saying the hacking had NO effect on the election? Now you are saying it DID?
Aside from that - they can hurt her by giving the APPEARANCE of something, by how people interpret it and how they think it reflects her character. Not whether there is something worth blackmailing. There is no way of knowing whether the hacks had an affect on her loss - there are too many variables there and it's impossible to know or measure (and I've said this multiple times).
I think - just as the left needs to get over losing the election - you, the right, need to get over blaming everything going wrong on "butthurt" from "election loss". It's over now. Get over it. The Russian hacking may be having it's flames fanned by sore losers but it is not a product of "butt hurt" - it's a serious issue and I would think you would want to make sure we can prevent it from destabilizing the NEXT election - don't you think? That should be the focus here.
me personally, I stated that Seth Rich had the emails and it was no hack. I've never said anything else. Assange admitted who he got the info from. I have faith he's telling the truth. he isn't a politician. There was never a hack. EVAH!!!!!again, the proof they hurt her is in her loss. There wouldn't need to be the whole Russia, Russia, thingy if there wasn't anything there, or butt hurt after the loss. just wouldn't. your premise is all wrong.I totally disagree - you would have to have the press, the Republican congress, and everyone in the intelligence community in on it at the very least and when you consider how leaky and partisan everything is now - there is no way it could be hidden - not from the media and not from the Republicans, and they aren't denying it was Russia.
Everything you assert -- contradicts the basic evidence. Putin's "clowns" got caught EVERY TIME. Professionals don't. There was MASSIVE embarrassment about the content of Podesta/DNC emails. If there wasn't --- it wouldn't have been "a thing" for 4 months. And there wouldn't have been 2 new DNC chairs since.
It doesn't contradict basic evidence at all - it contradicts your opinion of the evidence.
How do you KNOW they get caught "every time"? You don't. We also catch NK and Chinese hackers - and they are hardly amateur either. But I doubt we even catch them all the time.
There was embarressment about the DNC emails - but when all the noise died down - there really wasn't much of substance, there was nothing illegal, and nothing worth blackmail. Why was it "a thing" for 4 months? Have you considered the fact that there was an highly partisan election ongoing that might have made and kept it in the media attention - not to mention lots of real and fake news, promises of new leaks of emails etc to keep it in the news? Very skillfully done but you and I both know what becomes news and waht stays in the news isn't necessarily what's important right?
The DNC chairs resigned because it was embarrassing for the DNC and - they could not effectively do their jobs with that sort of media blitz.
So you're ignoring what ACTUALLY occurred in order to attempt to contradict the statements I made about how Russian Intel operates.
And NOBODY else was required to "be in on it". Those documents carried the stamp of approval from "all 17 Intel Agencies..(Except that they didn't -- It was a total Crapper production after all)..
Stick to "the narrative". Ignore how things work. That's why the left never actually UNDERSTANDS how things work...
I am paying attention to what actually occurred.
If the Russians didn't do it - there would not be agreement, someone would speak out and for sure the REPUBLICANS would use it! That's why it would have to be a conspiracy and that takes a much bigger leap of faith than does Putin, acting as Putin has acted for some time now, and doing what Russia/USSR has long done.
Hold on a second. You need to get your story straight. Weren't you previously saying the hacking had NO effect on the election? Now you are saying it DID?
Aside from that - they can hurt her by giving the APPEARANCE of something, by how people interpret it and how they think it reflects her character. Not whether there is something worth blackmailing. There is no way of knowing whether the hacks had an affect on her loss - there are too many variables there and it's impossible to know or measure (and I've said this multiple times).
I think - just as the left needs to get over losing the election - you, the right, need to get over blaming everything going wrong on "butthurt" from "election loss". It's over now. Get over it. The Russian hacking may be having it's flames fanned by sore losers but it is not a product of "butt hurt" - it's a serious issue and I would think you would want to make sure we can prevent it from destabilizing the NEXT election - don't you think? That should be the focus here.
The emails are the reference. how Assange got them he's already told the public. And the DNC says BS. Well if there was a hack, let's see the server. I've been saying that for quite some time. Prove me and Assange wrong? what are the afraid of" I'll tell you, being caught liars and now costing the country millions on investigations. oops.
But Coyote, I don't believe there was ever a hack. EVAH.
thanks!me personally, I stated that Seth Rich had the emails and it was no hack. I've never said anything else. Assange admitted who he got the info from. I have faith he's telling the truth. he isn't a politician. There was never a hack. EVAH!!!!!again, the proof they hurt her is in her loss. There wouldn't need to be the whole Russia, Russia, thingy if there wasn't anything there, or butt hurt after the loss. just wouldn't. your premise is all wrong.Everything you assert -- contradicts the basic evidence. Putin's "clowns" got caught EVERY TIME. Professionals don't. There was MASSIVE embarrassment about the content of Podesta/DNC emails. If there wasn't --- it wouldn't have been "a thing" for 4 months. And there wouldn't have been 2 new DNC chairs since.
It doesn't contradict basic evidence at all - it contradicts your opinion of the evidence.
How do you KNOW they get caught "every time"? You don't. We also catch NK and Chinese hackers - and they are hardly amateur either. But I doubt we even catch them all the time.
There was embarressment about the DNC emails - but when all the noise died down - there really wasn't much of substance, there was nothing illegal, and nothing worth blackmail. Why was it "a thing" for 4 months? Have you considered the fact that there was an highly partisan election ongoing that might have made and kept it in the media attention - not to mention lots of real and fake news, promises of new leaks of emails etc to keep it in the news? Very skillfully done but you and I both know what becomes news and waht stays in the news isn't necessarily what's important right?
The DNC chairs resigned because it was embarrassing for the DNC and - they could not effectively do their jobs with that sort of media blitz.
So you're ignoring what ACTUALLY occurred in order to attempt to contradict the statements I made about how Russian Intel operates.
And NOBODY else was required to "be in on it". Those documents carried the stamp of approval from "all 17 Intel Agencies..(Except that they didn't -- It was a total Crapper production after all)..
Stick to "the narrative". Ignore how things work. That's why the left never actually UNDERSTANDS how things work...
I am paying attention to what actually occurred.
If the Russians didn't do it - there would not be agreement, someone would speak out and for sure the REPUBLICANS would use it! That's why it would have to be a conspiracy and that takes a much bigger leap of faith than does Putin, acting as Putin has acted for some time now, and doing what Russia/USSR has long done.
Hold on a second. You need to get your story straight. Weren't you previously saying the hacking had NO effect on the election? Now you are saying it DID?
Aside from that - they can hurt her by giving the APPEARANCE of something, by how people interpret it and how they think it reflects her character. Not whether there is something worth blackmailing. There is no way of knowing whether the hacks had an affect on her loss - there are too many variables there and it's impossible to know or measure (and I've said this multiple times).
I think - just as the left needs to get over losing the election - you, the right, need to get over blaming everything going wrong on "butthurt" from "election loss". It's over now. Get over it. The Russian hacking may be having it's flames fanned by sore losers but it is not a product of "butt hurt" - it's a serious issue and I would think you would want to make sure we can prevent it from destabilizing the NEXT election - don't you think? That should be the focus here.
The emails are the reference. how Assange got them he's already told the public. And the DNC says BS. Well if there was a hack, let's see the server. I've been saying that for quite some time. Prove me and Assange wrong? what are the afraid of" I'll tell you, being caught liars and now costing the country millions on investigations. oops.
But Coyote, I don't believe there was ever a hack. EVAH.
It wasn't a hack. The DNC SERVER has a DEMOCRATS.ORG domain, and you cannot find emails addressed to Podesta at Democrats.org.
Podesta's emails come from GMAIL.com primarily, and some from law.georgetown.edu. He accessed those accounts via a web client remotely. There were no cached copies of those emails on THE DNC SERVER.
me personally, I stated that Seth Rich had the emails and it was no hack. I've never said anything else. Assange admitted who he got the info from. I have faith he's telling the truth. he isn't a politician. There was never a hack. EVAH!!!!!again, the proof they hurt her is in her loss. There wouldn't need to be the whole Russia, Russia, thingy if there wasn't anything there, or butt hurt after the loss. just wouldn't. your premise is all wrong.Everything you assert -- contradicts the basic evidence. Putin's "clowns" got caught EVERY TIME. Professionals don't. There was MASSIVE embarrassment about the content of Podesta/DNC emails. If there wasn't --- it wouldn't have been "a thing" for 4 months. And there wouldn't have been 2 new DNC chairs since.
It doesn't contradict basic evidence at all - it contradicts your opinion of the evidence.
How do you KNOW they get caught "every time"? You don't. We also catch NK and Chinese hackers - and they are hardly amateur either. But I doubt we even catch them all the time.
There was embarressment about the DNC emails - but when all the noise died down - there really wasn't much of substance, there was nothing illegal, and nothing worth blackmail. Why was it "a thing" for 4 months? Have you considered the fact that there was an highly partisan election ongoing that might have made and kept it in the media attention - not to mention lots of real and fake news, promises of new leaks of emails etc to keep it in the news? Very skillfully done but you and I both know what becomes news and waht stays in the news isn't necessarily what's important right?
The DNC chairs resigned because it was embarrassing for the DNC and - they could not effectively do their jobs with that sort of media blitz.
So you're ignoring what ACTUALLY occurred in order to attempt to contradict the statements I made about how Russian Intel operates.
And NOBODY else was required to "be in on it". Those documents carried the stamp of approval from "all 17 Intel Agencies..(Except that they didn't -- It was a total Crapper production after all)..
Stick to "the narrative". Ignore how things work. That's why the left never actually UNDERSTANDS how things work...
I am paying attention to what actually occurred.
If the Russians didn't do it - there would not be agreement, someone would speak out and for sure the REPUBLICANS would use it! That's why it would have to be a conspiracy and that takes a much bigger leap of faith than does Putin, acting as Putin has acted for some time now, and doing what Russia/USSR has long done.
Hold on a second. You need to get your story straight. Weren't you previously saying the hacking had NO effect on the election? Now you are saying it DID?
Aside from that - they can hurt her by giving the APPEARANCE of something, by how people interpret it and how they think it reflects her character. Not whether there is something worth blackmailing. There is no way of knowing whether the hacks had an affect on her loss - there are too many variables there and it's impossible to know or measure (and I've said this multiple times).
I think - just as the left needs to get over losing the election - you, the right, need to get over blaming everything going wrong on "butthurt" from "election loss". It's over now. Get over it. The Russian hacking may be having it's flames fanned by sore losers but it is not a product of "butt hurt" - it's a serious issue and I would think you would want to make sure we can prevent it from destabilizing the NEXT election - don't you think? That should be the focus here.
The emails are the reference. how Assange got them he's already told the public. And the DNC says BS. Well if there was a hack, let's see the server. I've been saying that for quite some time. Prove me and Assange wrong? what are the afraid of" I'll tell you, being caught liars and now costing the country millions on investigations. oops.
But Coyote, I don't believe there was ever a hack. EVAH.
It wasn't a hack. The DNC SERVER has a DEMOCRATS.ORG domain, and you cannot find emails addressed to Podesta at Democrats.org.
Podesta's emails come from GMAIL.com primarily, and some from law.georgetown.edu. He accessed those accounts via a web client remotely. There were no cached copies of those emails on THE DNC SERVER.
The Dummy had to have left his PC on and not locked and had to have been logged in to all of these accounts via a web client, and had to have done this all the time for someone to regularly copy emails from those accounts, because they sure as Hell were not emails that were on THE DNC Server.
Why would anybody believe our intel community about Russian hacking
Go ahead and look through all of Podesta's Wikileaks emails.me personally, I stated that Seth Rich had the emails and it was no hack. I've never said anything else. Assange admitted who he got the info from. I have faith he's telling the truth. he isn't a politician. There was never a hack. EVAH!!!!!again, the proof they hurt her is in her loss. There wouldn't need to be the whole Russia, Russia, thingy if there wasn't anything there, or butt hurt after the loss. just wouldn't. your premise is all wrong.It doesn't contradict basic evidence at all - it contradicts your opinion of the evidence.
How do you KNOW they get caught "every time"? You don't. We also catch NK and Chinese hackers - and they are hardly amateur either. But I doubt we even catch them all the time.
There was embarressment about the DNC emails - but when all the noise died down - there really wasn't much of substance, there was nothing illegal, and nothing worth blackmail. Why was it "a thing" for 4 months? Have you considered the fact that there was an highly partisan election ongoing that might have made and kept it in the media attention - not to mention lots of real and fake news, promises of new leaks of emails etc to keep it in the news? Very skillfully done but you and I both know what becomes news and waht stays in the news isn't necessarily what's important right?
The DNC chairs resigned because it was embarrassing for the DNC and - they could not effectively do their jobs with that sort of media blitz.
I am paying attention to what actually occurred.
If the Russians didn't do it - there would not be agreement, someone would speak out and for sure the REPUBLICANS would use it! That's why it would have to be a conspiracy and that takes a much bigger leap of faith than does Putin, acting as Putin has acted for some time now, and doing what Russia/USSR has long done.
Hold on a second. You need to get your story straight. Weren't you previously saying the hacking had NO effect on the election? Now you are saying it DID?
Aside from that - they can hurt her by giving the APPEARANCE of something, by how people interpret it and how they think it reflects her character. Not whether there is something worth blackmailing. There is no way of knowing whether the hacks had an affect on her loss - there are too many variables there and it's impossible to know or measure (and I've said this multiple times).
I think - just as the left needs to get over losing the election - you, the right, need to get over blaming everything going wrong on "butthurt" from "election loss". It's over now. Get over it. The Russian hacking may be having it's flames fanned by sore losers but it is not a product of "butt hurt" - it's a serious issue and I would think you would want to make sure we can prevent it from destabilizing the NEXT election - don't you think? That should be the focus here.
The emails are the reference. how Assange got them he's already told the public. And the DNC says BS. Well if there was a hack, let's see the server. I've been saying that for quite some time. Prove me and Assange wrong? what are the afraid of" I'll tell you, being caught liars and now costing the country millions on investigations. oops.
But Coyote, I don't believe there was ever a hack. EVAH.
It wasn't a hack. The DNC SERVER has a DEMOCRATS.ORG domain, and you cannot find emails addressed to Podesta at Democrats.org.
Podesta's emails come from GMAIL.com primarily, and some from law.georgetown.edu. He accessed those accounts via a web client remotely. There were no cached copies of those emails on THE DNC SERVER.
The Dummy had to have left his PC on and not locked and had to have been logged in to all of these accounts via a web client, and had to have done this all the time for someone to regularly copy emails from those accounts, because they sure as Hell were not emails that were on THE DNC Server.
Wow, how simple - everyone is wrong, the intelligence agencies are wrong, there was no hack.
Some how, I doubt you've seen all the information or evidence.
exactly, you got it, that's the ticket. See, in order for someone to say there was a hack, someone in one of those agencies would have had to seen the server. you do know no one has seen that server right? tell me you know this. then ask, how can the intelligence agency say that if they haven't looked at the server? Then you and I would be on the same page. I call em all liars and criminals. each and everyone of them. and if you know they haven't looked at the equipment that was ground zero, then you'd have to ask, how would they ever know? Now tree in here has provide some nice information regarding the domain names on the emails and where they came from and it isn't the DNC server. ooops..me personally, I stated that Seth Rich had the emails and it was no hack. I've never said anything else. Assange admitted who he got the info from. I have faith he's telling the truth. he isn't a politician. There was never a hack. EVAH!!!!!again, the proof they hurt her is in her loss. There wouldn't need to be the whole Russia, Russia, thingy if there wasn't anything there, or butt hurt after the loss. just wouldn't. your premise is all wrong.It doesn't contradict basic evidence at all - it contradicts your opinion of the evidence.
How do you KNOW they get caught "every time"? You don't. We also catch NK and Chinese hackers - and they are hardly amateur either. But I doubt we even catch them all the time.
There was embarressment about the DNC emails - but when all the noise died down - there really wasn't much of substance, there was nothing illegal, and nothing worth blackmail. Why was it "a thing" for 4 months? Have you considered the fact that there was an highly partisan election ongoing that might have made and kept it in the media attention - not to mention lots of real and fake news, promises of new leaks of emails etc to keep it in the news? Very skillfully done but you and I both know what becomes news and waht stays in the news isn't necessarily what's important right?
The DNC chairs resigned because it was embarrassing for the DNC and - they could not effectively do their jobs with that sort of media blitz.
I am paying attention to what actually occurred.
If the Russians didn't do it - there would not be agreement, someone would speak out and for sure the REPUBLICANS would use it! That's why it would have to be a conspiracy and that takes a much bigger leap of faith than does Putin, acting as Putin has acted for some time now, and doing what Russia/USSR has long done.
Hold on a second. You need to get your story straight. Weren't you previously saying the hacking had NO effect on the election? Now you are saying it DID?
Aside from that - they can hurt her by giving the APPEARANCE of something, by how people interpret it and how they think it reflects her character. Not whether there is something worth blackmailing. There is no way of knowing whether the hacks had an affect on her loss - there are too many variables there and it's impossible to know or measure (and I've said this multiple times).
I think - just as the left needs to get over losing the election - you, the right, need to get over blaming everything going wrong on "butthurt" from "election loss". It's over now. Get over it. The Russian hacking may be having it's flames fanned by sore losers but it is not a product of "butt hurt" - it's a serious issue and I would think you would want to make sure we can prevent it from destabilizing the NEXT election - don't you think? That should be the focus here.
The emails are the reference. how Assange got them he's already told the public. And the DNC says BS. Well if there was a hack, let's see the server. I've been saying that for quite some time. Prove me and Assange wrong? what are the afraid of" I'll tell you, being caught liars and now costing the country millions on investigations. oops.
But Coyote, I don't believe there was ever a hack. EVAH.
It wasn't a hack. The DNC SERVER has a DEMOCRATS.ORG domain, and you cannot find emails addressed to Podesta at Democrats.org.
Podesta's emails come from GMAIL.com primarily, and some from law.georgetown.edu. He accessed those accounts via a web client remotely. There were no cached copies of those emails on THE DNC SERVER.
The Dummy had to have left his PC on and not locked and had to have been logged in to all of these accounts via a web client, and had to have done this all the time for someone to regularly copy emails from those accounts, because they sure as Hell were not emails that were on THE DNC Server.
Wow, how simple - everyone is wrong, the intelligence agencies are wrong, there was no hack.
Some how, I doubt you've seen all the information or evidence.
Funny how snowflakes dismiss that Seth Rich was involved with the DNC email leak, but have no trouble at all claiming that Trump will kill hundreds of thousands of people if Obama is repealed.
Why is no one discussing the fact that THE DNC claims it's server was hacked, and The DNC uses the domain Democrats.org
And the Podesta Emails Leaked to Wikileaks was from Podesta's GMAIL ACCOUNT?
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dude, they have no shame. Look at what they've done to our country and the EU. These people are social deviates who hate life. They wish all humans dead. That's why they will never use the phrase jihadist islamic terrorist. they believe in their jihad.Funny how snowflakes dismiss that Seth Rich was involved with the DNC email leak, but have no trouble at all claiming that Trump will kill hundreds of thousands of people if Obama is repealed.
Why is no one discussing the fact that THE DNC claims it's server was hacked, and The DNC uses the domain Democrats.org
And the Podesta Emails Leaked to Wikileaks was from Podesta's GMAIL ACCOUNT?
Domain Name: DEMOCRATS.ORG
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What a fucking mess.
dude, they have no shame. Look at what they've done to our country and the EU.Funny how snowflakes dismiss that Seth Rich was involved with the DNC email leak, but have no trouble at all claiming that Trump will kill hundreds of thousands of people if Obama is repealed.
Why is no one discussing the fact that THE DNC claims it's server was hacked, and The DNC uses the domain Democrats.org
And the Podesta Emails Leaked to Wikileaks was from Podesta's GMAIL ACCOUNT?
Domain Name: DEMOCRATS.ORG
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What a fucking mess.
man two in one day....dude, they have no shame. Look at what they've done to our country and the EU.Funny how snowflakes dismiss that Seth Rich was involved with the DNC email leak, but have no trouble at all claiming that Trump will kill hundreds of thousands of people if Obama is repealed.
Why is no one discussing the fact that THE DNC claims it's server was hacked, and The DNC uses the domain Democrats.org
And the Podesta Emails Leaked to Wikileaks was from Podesta's GMAIL ACCOUNT?
Domain Name: DEMOCRATS.ORG
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Registrar: eNom, Inc.
Registrar IANA ID: 48
Registrar Abuse Contact Email:
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone:
Reseller:
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What a fucking mess.
BTW this is also EXACTLY why THE DNC won't let anyone look at THE DNC SERVER nor post any logs or any evidence at all from that server for people to look at. As soon as they did, people with a brain would rip their Lying Narrative to Shreds.
How can you phucking claim your server was hacked in the middle of a presidential election campaign and No Democrats.org emails to Podesta can be found at Wikileaks?
I have know shit all my life, just like yous..cause you do business with him eh? too funny, you know shit.It really is the only people that Trump has any respect for, richer than he be folks..Putin hacked us.
Putin hacked the DNC.
Putin hacked the RNC.
Covfefe with two scoops please..Vlad the Impaler would never do anything like that..His hired henchmen would though...But what strikes me as stupid, is to believe that you would believe that Trump doesn't emulate a man that is richer than himself..
So would Donny Two Scoops but yes, it came from the top. It came from Putin.
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Angus I'ts not getting repealed Repub congress have weak knees,,,can't replace or repeal obama careFunny how snowflakes dismiss that Seth Rich was involved with the DNC email leak, but have no trouble at all claiming that Trump will kill hundreds of thousands of people if Obama is repealed.