Putin Didn't Hack Us

Funny how snowflakes dismiss that Seth Rich was involved with the DNC email leak, but have no trouble at all claiming that Trump will kill hundreds of thousands of people if Obama is repealed.
 
No one seems to care, with CLINTON & OBAMA Sycophants leaking classified information all over THE FUCKING PLACE, that there have been ZERO LEAKS about any so called EVIDENCE of RUSSIAN HACKING or Collusion.

Has anyone even given one minute of thought to that?

Comey can't leak to Mueller because he doesn't know anything more than he did and if Mueller catches him leaking to the NYTimes again, he'll have to prosecute his buddy.

Mueller and his Army of Attorneys are not there to prosecute anyone. Only if they are forced in to it by leaked information of some sort that would give them no choice.
They are The Cleanup Crew.


Mueller was appointed to sweep Comey, Obama's, Lynch's, Rice's & The DNC and Clinton's Crimes and others under the rug.

Comey botched the job. Now Mueller has to extricate THE DNC and THE OBAMA REGIME out of the mess they put themselves in with their FALSE RUSSIAN NARRATIVE without exposing anyone and specifically without Subpoenaing THE DNC SERVER.

I'd actually be shocked if anyone is prosecuted unless Mueller is forced to create a scapegoat or two who will fall on their sword and keep their mouths shut.
Love to see Trump jr and Kirshner do time 2 thieves in a pod
what did they do? what's the crime? state it.
 
Funny how snowflakes dismiss that Seth Rich was involved with the DNC email leak, but have no trouble at all claiming that Trump will kill hundreds of thousands of people if Obama is repealed.

Why is no one discussing the fact that THE DNC claims it's server was hacked, and The DNC uses the domain Democrats.org

And the Podesta Emails Leaked to Wikileaks was from Podesta's GMAIL ACCOUNT?


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There was nothing in those emails that was sufficient to blackmail - it was mostly noise, innuendo and distraction and it served their purpose - sow chaos, distrust in our institutions (media, intelligence, electoral system) by hacking, dissiminating through wikileaks, and propogating fake news

Which would have MORE effective if Clinton had gained POWER and was trying to run an Admin. There was ENOUGH in those DNC emails to cause a chain of resignations, and DOMINATE the news cycle for months. Had all the jabs at Bernie's campaign been released as BLACKMAIL to get favorable deals from a Clinton Admin, it most CERTAINLY would cast doubt on the validity of her election and hobble her effectiveness..


I disagree - what was in the emails that was actually "black mailible" - nothing. Think about it closely. Most of it was "noise" - pre-election noise. There was nothing criminal, or even really embarressing for her. And she's not political novice - she's been scrutinized and investigated more than any other candidate, and she has a lengthy political history behind her.

Even the jabs at Bernie's campaign - nothing illegal, nothing that doesn't occur typically in primary politics (the contact sport)...it was EMBARRASSING to the DNC but had no substantial impact on Clinton's ability to govern has she won and to think they could use it for blackmail as opposed to simple disruption would be highly risky because in all likelihood - she'd laugh at them. Russia has a long history of attempting to disrupt democratic process through disinformation, propoganda etc - from back in the Soviet days, this is right in line with what they typically do only now it's a lot easier.



And yet -- as you've been told by various posters here and in other threads. Getting sanctions lifted is EXACTLY what the Podesta Group was hired to do. During the fucking campaign. So how sincere was Clinton's commitment to being "tough on Russia" when her CAMPAIGN MGR is a paid lobbyist for SberBank controlling 1/3 of the total assets in Russia?

This is likely LESS about Putin and MORE about the way the Russian economy is run and controlled by several HUNDRED oligarchs and Mafioso types that Putin is buddies with. They all compete. They ALL hire influence in foreign govts and they all conduct their OWN "foreign intel". INDEPENDENT of FSB/GRU/KGB... For instance, Manafort and Podesta COMPETED for consulting status with some of these same Oligarchy interests. Both in Russia and in the Ukraine. There's a LOT more here than Putin having a circus of inept, incapable clowns in his Intel CyberWar groups.

And there were US investments and money at stake in WHO dominated in the Russian markets. See the huge number of shares of Russian stocks GIVEN to Podesta for his efforts..

In all likelyhood - Russia approached many (including Trump campaign staff and associates) in attempts to get sanctions lifted. Clinton's commitment to Russian sanctions is clear in her own political record regardless of what Podesta might or might not be doing.

Putin has VERY capable "clowns" in his CyberWar groups - extremely so since it took us this long to figure out what they've been chipping away at for a long time and leaving few traces. The only reason we were so clueless before was our people didn't know what to look for before. But eventually, even the best hackers leave traces.

Putin is cold blooded, shrewed and calculating. He's effectively shut down media watchdogs and political dissidents. He has a proven reputation of poisoning or assassinating whistle blowers, journalists, dissidents and political opposition. It's even quite possible that he himself engineered the bombings in the middle of the night...killing hundreds of sleeping people when they pancaked...and blamed on "Chechnyan terrorists". An action that, brought him in to political power. Putin takes the long view on global politics. It doesn't pay to underestimate him.



Nope.. Only requires the CONCENTRATED power vested in proven deviants and liars as James Clapper. HE was the POLITICAL appointee that tasked all the agencies for Admin goals and policies. He's a POLITICAL operative at that point. Despite his years of actual service to these agencies. His NEW job gave him "cross program" access that LITERALLY -- less than a dozen people possess. So just that ONE and maybe a few flaming partisans in other areas like the FBI or DOJ or HSecurity would be sufficient to CORRUPT and weaponize the Intel agencies for political hijinks...

THAT is nightmare of EVERY faithful patriotic person who has served in the Intel areas. And for DECADES the chances of that EVER happening were close to Nil.. Until 9/11 and the Patriot Act and the consolidation of POLITICAL power in Admin controlled new positions and groups were created. Along with that awesome Big Brother Domestic spying operation we ALL have to cope with.. It's a doomsday scenario. An Intel infrastructure political insurgency could take this Republic down in a year...


I totally disagree - you would have to have the press, the Republican congress, and everyone in the intelligence community in on it at the very least and when you consider how leaky and partisan everything is now - there is no way it could be hidden - not from the media and not from the Republicans, and they aren't denying it was Russia.

Everything you assert -- contradicts the basic evidence. Putin's "clowns" got caught EVERY TIME. Professionals don't. There was MASSIVE embarrassment about the content of Podesta/DNC emails. If there wasn't --- it wouldn't have been "a thing" for 4 months. And there wouldn't have been 2 new DNC chairs since.

It doesn't contradict basic evidence at all - it contradicts your opinion of the evidence.

How do you KNOW they get caught "every time"? You don't. We also catch NK and Chinese hackers - and they are hardly amateur either. But I doubt we even catch them all the time.

There was embarressment about the DNC emails - but when all the noise died down - there really wasn't much of substance, there was nothing illegal, and nothing worth blackmail. Why was it "a thing" for 4 months? Have you considered the fact that there was an highly partisan election ongoing that might have made and kept it in the media attention - not to mention lots of real and fake news, promises of new leaks of emails etc to keep it in the news? Very skillfully done but you and I both know what becomes news and waht stays in the news isn't necessarily what's important right?

The DNC chairs resigned because it was embarrassing for the DNC and - they could not effectively do their jobs with that sort of media blitz.

So you're ignoring what ACTUALLY occurred in order to attempt to contradict the statements I made about how Russian Intel operates.

And NOBODY else was required to "be in on it". Those documents carried the stamp of approval from "all 17 Intel Agencies.. :lmao: (Except that they didn't -- It was a total Crapper production after all)..

Stick to "the narrative". Ignore how things work. That's why the left never actually UNDERSTANDS how things work...

I am paying attention to what actually occurred.

If the Russians didn't do it - there would not be agreement, someone would speak out and for sure the REPUBLICANS would use it! That's why it would have to be a conspiracy and that takes a much bigger leap of faith than does Putin, acting as Putin has acted for some time now, and doing what Russia/USSR has long done.
again, the proof they hurt her is in her loss. There wouldn't need to be the whole Russia, Russia, thingy if there wasn't anything there, or butt hurt after the loss. just wouldn't. your premise is all wrong.


Hold on a second. You need to get your story straight. Weren't you previously saying the hacking had NO effect on the election? Now you are saying it DID?

Aside from that - they can hurt her by giving the APPEARANCE of something, by how people interpret it and how they think it reflects her character. Not whether there is something worth blackmailing. There is no way of knowing whether the hacks had an affect on her loss - there are too many variables there and it's impossible to know or measure (and I've said this multiple times).

I think - just as the left needs to get over losing the election - you, the right, need to get over blaming everything going wrong on "butthurt" from "election loss". It's over now. Get over it. The Russian hacking may be having it's flames fanned by sore losers but it is not a product of "butt hurt" - it's a serious issue and I would think you would want to make sure we can prevent it from destabilizing the NEXT election - don't you think? That should be the focus here.
 
Which would have MORE effective if Clinton had gained POWER and was trying to run an Admin. There was ENOUGH in those DNC emails to cause a chain of resignations, and DOMINATE the news cycle for months. Had all the jabs at Bernie's campaign been released as BLACKMAIL to get favorable deals from a Clinton Admin, it most CERTAINLY would cast doubt on the validity of her election and hobble her effectiveness..


In all likelyhood - Russia approached many (including Trump campaign staff and associates) in attempts to get sanctions lifted. Clinton's commitment to Russian sanctions is clear in her own political record regardless of what Podesta might or might not be doing.

Putin has VERY capable "clowns" in his CyberWar groups - extremely so since it took us this long to figure out what they've been chipping away at for a long time and leaving few traces. The only reason we were so clueless before was our people didn't know what to look for before. But eventually, even the best hackers leave traces.

Putin is cold blooded, shrewed and calculating. He's effectively shut down media watchdogs and political dissidents. He has a proven reputation of poisoning or assassinating whistle blowers, journalists, dissidents and political opposition. It's even quite possible that he himself engineered the bombings in the middle of the night...killing hundreds of sleeping people when they pancaked...and blamed on "Chechnyan terrorists". An action that, brought him in to political power. Putin takes the long view on global politics. It doesn't pay to underestimate him.


I totally disagree - you would have to have the press, the Republican congress, and everyone in the intelligence community in on it at the very least and when you consider how leaky and partisan everything is now - there is no way it could be hidden - not from the media and not from the Republicans, and they aren't denying it was Russia.

Everything you assert -- contradicts the basic evidence. Putin's "clowns" got caught EVERY TIME. Professionals don't. There was MASSIVE embarrassment about the content of Podesta/DNC emails. If there wasn't --- it wouldn't have been "a thing" for 4 months. And there wouldn't have been 2 new DNC chairs since.

It doesn't contradict basic evidence at all - it contradicts your opinion of the evidence.

How do you KNOW they get caught "every time"? You don't. We also catch NK and Chinese hackers - and they are hardly amateur either. But I doubt we even catch them all the time.

There was embarressment about the DNC emails - but when all the noise died down - there really wasn't much of substance, there was nothing illegal, and nothing worth blackmail. Why was it "a thing" for 4 months? Have you considered the fact that there was an highly partisan election ongoing that might have made and kept it in the media attention - not to mention lots of real and fake news, promises of new leaks of emails etc to keep it in the news? Very skillfully done but you and I both know what becomes news and waht stays in the news isn't necessarily what's important right?

The DNC chairs resigned because it was embarrassing for the DNC and - they could not effectively do their jobs with that sort of media blitz.

So you're ignoring what ACTUALLY occurred in order to attempt to contradict the statements I made about how Russian Intel operates.

And NOBODY else was required to "be in on it". Those documents carried the stamp of approval from "all 17 Intel Agencies.. :lmao: (Except that they didn't -- It was a total Crapper production after all)..

Stick to "the narrative". Ignore how things work. That's why the left never actually UNDERSTANDS how things work...

I am paying attention to what actually occurred.

If the Russians didn't do it - there would not be agreement, someone would speak out and for sure the REPUBLICANS would use it! That's why it would have to be a conspiracy and that takes a much bigger leap of faith than does Putin, acting as Putin has acted for some time now, and doing what Russia/USSR has long done.
again, the proof they hurt her is in her loss. There wouldn't need to be the whole Russia, Russia, thingy if there wasn't anything there, or butt hurt after the loss. just wouldn't. your premise is all wrong.


Hold on a second. You need to get your story straight. Weren't you previously saying the hacking had NO effect on the election? Now you are saying it DID?

Aside from that - they can hurt her by giving the APPEARANCE of something, by how people interpret it and how they think it reflects her character. Not whether there is something worth blackmailing. There is no way of knowing whether the hacks had an affect on her loss - there are too many variables there and it's impossible to know or measure (and I've said this multiple times).

I think - just as the left needs to get over losing the election - you, the right, need to get over blaming everything going wrong on "butthurt" from "election loss". It's over now. Get over it. The Russian hacking may be having it's flames fanned by sore losers but it is not a product of "butt hurt" - it's a serious issue and I would think you would want to make sure we can prevent it from destabilizing the NEXT election - don't you think? That should be the focus here.
me personally, I stated that Seth Rich had the emails and it was no hack. I've never said anything else. Assange admitted who he got the info from. I have faith he's telling the truth. he isn't a politician. There was never a hack. EVAH!!!!!

The emails are the reference. how Assange got them he's already told the public. And the DNC says BS. Well if there was a hack, let's see the server. I've been saying that for quite some time. Prove me and Assange wrong? what are they, the DNC, afraid of" I'll tell you, being caught liars and now costing the country millions on investigations. oops.

But Coyote, I don't believe there was ever a hack. EVAH.
 
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I totally disagree - you would have to have the press, the Republican congress, and everyone in the intelligence community in on it at the very least and when you consider how leaky and partisan everything is now - there is no way it could be hidden - not from the media and not from the Republicans, and they aren't denying it was Russia.

Everything you assert -- contradicts the basic evidence. Putin's "clowns" got caught EVERY TIME. Professionals don't. There was MASSIVE embarrassment about the content of Podesta/DNC emails. If there wasn't --- it wouldn't have been "a thing" for 4 months. And there wouldn't have been 2 new DNC chairs since.

It doesn't contradict basic evidence at all - it contradicts your opinion of the evidence.

How do you KNOW they get caught "every time"? You don't. We also catch NK and Chinese hackers - and they are hardly amateur either. But I doubt we even catch them all the time.

There was embarressment about the DNC emails - but when all the noise died down - there really wasn't much of substance, there was nothing illegal, and nothing worth blackmail. Why was it "a thing" for 4 months? Have you considered the fact that there was an highly partisan election ongoing that might have made and kept it in the media attention - not to mention lots of real and fake news, promises of new leaks of emails etc to keep it in the news? Very skillfully done but you and I both know what becomes news and waht stays in the news isn't necessarily what's important right?

The DNC chairs resigned because it was embarrassing for the DNC and - they could not effectively do their jobs with that sort of media blitz.

So you're ignoring what ACTUALLY occurred in order to attempt to contradict the statements I made about how Russian Intel operates.

And NOBODY else was required to "be in on it". Those documents carried the stamp of approval from "all 17 Intel Agencies.. :lmao: (Except that they didn't -- It was a total Crapper production after all)..

Stick to "the narrative". Ignore how things work. That's why the left never actually UNDERSTANDS how things work...

I am paying attention to what actually occurred.

If the Russians didn't do it - there would not be agreement, someone would speak out and for sure the REPUBLICANS would use it! That's why it would have to be a conspiracy and that takes a much bigger leap of faith than does Putin, acting as Putin has acted for some time now, and doing what Russia/USSR has long done.
again, the proof they hurt her is in her loss. There wouldn't need to be the whole Russia, Russia, thingy if there wasn't anything there, or butt hurt after the loss. just wouldn't. your premise is all wrong.


Hold on a second. You need to get your story straight. Weren't you previously saying the hacking had NO effect on the election? Now you are saying it DID?

Aside from that - they can hurt her by giving the APPEARANCE of something, by how people interpret it and how they think it reflects her character. Not whether there is something worth blackmailing. There is no way of knowing whether the hacks had an affect on her loss - there are too many variables there and it's impossible to know or measure (and I've said this multiple times).

I think - just as the left needs to get over losing the election - you, the right, need to get over blaming everything going wrong on "butthurt" from "election loss". It's over now. Get over it. The Russian hacking may be having it's flames fanned by sore losers but it is not a product of "butt hurt" - it's a serious issue and I would think you would want to make sure we can prevent it from destabilizing the NEXT election - don't you think? That should be the focus here.
me personally, I stated that Seth Rich had the emails and it was no hack. I've never said anything else. Assange admitted who he got the info from. I have faith he's telling the truth. he isn't a politician. There was never a hack. EVAH!!!!!

The emails are the reference. how Assange got them he's already told the public. And the DNC says BS. Well if there was a hack, let's see the server. I've been saying that for quite some time. Prove me and Assange wrong? what are the afraid of" I'll tell you, being caught liars and now costing the country millions on investigations. oops.

But Coyote, I don't believe there was ever a hack. EVAH.

It wasn't a hack. The DNC SERVER has a DEMOCRATS.ORG domain, and you cannot find emails addressed to Podesta at Democrats.org.

Podesta's emails come from GMAIL.com primarily, and some from law.georgetown.edu. He accessed those accounts via a web client remotely. There were no cached copies of those emails on THE DNC SERVER.

The Dummy had to have left his PC on and not locked and had to have been logged in to all of these accounts via a web client, and had to have done this all the time for someone to regularly copy emails from those accounts, because they sure as Hell were not emails that were on THE DNC Server.
 
Everything you assert -- contradicts the basic evidence. Putin's "clowns" got caught EVERY TIME. Professionals don't. There was MASSIVE embarrassment about the content of Podesta/DNC emails. If there wasn't --- it wouldn't have been "a thing" for 4 months. And there wouldn't have been 2 new DNC chairs since.

It doesn't contradict basic evidence at all - it contradicts your opinion of the evidence.

How do you KNOW they get caught "every time"? You don't. We also catch NK and Chinese hackers - and they are hardly amateur either. But I doubt we even catch them all the time.

There was embarressment about the DNC emails - but when all the noise died down - there really wasn't much of substance, there was nothing illegal, and nothing worth blackmail. Why was it "a thing" for 4 months? Have you considered the fact that there was an highly partisan election ongoing that might have made and kept it in the media attention - not to mention lots of real and fake news, promises of new leaks of emails etc to keep it in the news? Very skillfully done but you and I both know what becomes news and waht stays in the news isn't necessarily what's important right?

The DNC chairs resigned because it was embarrassing for the DNC and - they could not effectively do their jobs with that sort of media blitz.

So you're ignoring what ACTUALLY occurred in order to attempt to contradict the statements I made about how Russian Intel operates.

And NOBODY else was required to "be in on it". Those documents carried the stamp of approval from "all 17 Intel Agencies.. :lmao: (Except that they didn't -- It was a total Crapper production after all)..

Stick to "the narrative". Ignore how things work. That's why the left never actually UNDERSTANDS how things work...

I am paying attention to what actually occurred.

If the Russians didn't do it - there would not be agreement, someone would speak out and for sure the REPUBLICANS would use it! That's why it would have to be a conspiracy and that takes a much bigger leap of faith than does Putin, acting as Putin has acted for some time now, and doing what Russia/USSR has long done.
again, the proof they hurt her is in her loss. There wouldn't need to be the whole Russia, Russia, thingy if there wasn't anything there, or butt hurt after the loss. just wouldn't. your premise is all wrong.


Hold on a second. You need to get your story straight. Weren't you previously saying the hacking had NO effect on the election? Now you are saying it DID?

Aside from that - they can hurt her by giving the APPEARANCE of something, by how people interpret it and how they think it reflects her character. Not whether there is something worth blackmailing. There is no way of knowing whether the hacks had an affect on her loss - there are too many variables there and it's impossible to know or measure (and I've said this multiple times).

I think - just as the left needs to get over losing the election - you, the right, need to get over blaming everything going wrong on "butthurt" from "election loss". It's over now. Get over it. The Russian hacking may be having it's flames fanned by sore losers but it is not a product of "butt hurt" - it's a serious issue and I would think you would want to make sure we can prevent it from destabilizing the NEXT election - don't you think? That should be the focus here.
me personally, I stated that Seth Rich had the emails and it was no hack. I've never said anything else. Assange admitted who he got the info from. I have faith he's telling the truth. he isn't a politician. There was never a hack. EVAH!!!!!

The emails are the reference. how Assange got them he's already told the public. And the DNC says BS. Well if there was a hack, let's see the server. I've been saying that for quite some time. Prove me and Assange wrong? what are the afraid of" I'll tell you, being caught liars and now costing the country millions on investigations. oops.

But Coyote, I don't believe there was ever a hack. EVAH.

It wasn't a hack. The DNC SERVER has a DEMOCRATS.ORG domain, and you cannot find emails addressed to Podesta at Democrats.org.

Podesta's emails come from GMAIL.com primarily, and some from law.georgetown.edu. He accessed those accounts via a web client remotely. There were no cached copies of those emails on THE DNC SERVER.
thanks!
 
Everything you assert -- contradicts the basic evidence. Putin's "clowns" got caught EVERY TIME. Professionals don't. There was MASSIVE embarrassment about the content of Podesta/DNC emails. If there wasn't --- it wouldn't have been "a thing" for 4 months. And there wouldn't have been 2 new DNC chairs since.

It doesn't contradict basic evidence at all - it contradicts your opinion of the evidence.

How do you KNOW they get caught "every time"? You don't. We also catch NK and Chinese hackers - and they are hardly amateur either. But I doubt we even catch them all the time.

There was embarressment about the DNC emails - but when all the noise died down - there really wasn't much of substance, there was nothing illegal, and nothing worth blackmail. Why was it "a thing" for 4 months? Have you considered the fact that there was an highly partisan election ongoing that might have made and kept it in the media attention - not to mention lots of real and fake news, promises of new leaks of emails etc to keep it in the news? Very skillfully done but you and I both know what becomes news and waht stays in the news isn't necessarily what's important right?

The DNC chairs resigned because it was embarrassing for the DNC and - they could not effectively do their jobs with that sort of media blitz.

So you're ignoring what ACTUALLY occurred in order to attempt to contradict the statements I made about how Russian Intel operates.

And NOBODY else was required to "be in on it". Those documents carried the stamp of approval from "all 17 Intel Agencies.. :lmao: (Except that they didn't -- It was a total Crapper production after all)..

Stick to "the narrative". Ignore how things work. That's why the left never actually UNDERSTANDS how things work...

I am paying attention to what actually occurred.

If the Russians didn't do it - there would not be agreement, someone would speak out and for sure the REPUBLICANS would use it! That's why it would have to be a conspiracy and that takes a much bigger leap of faith than does Putin, acting as Putin has acted for some time now, and doing what Russia/USSR has long done.
again, the proof they hurt her is in her loss. There wouldn't need to be the whole Russia, Russia, thingy if there wasn't anything there, or butt hurt after the loss. just wouldn't. your premise is all wrong.


Hold on a second. You need to get your story straight. Weren't you previously saying the hacking had NO effect on the election? Now you are saying it DID?

Aside from that - they can hurt her by giving the APPEARANCE of something, by how people interpret it and how they think it reflects her character. Not whether there is something worth blackmailing. There is no way of knowing whether the hacks had an affect on her loss - there are too many variables there and it's impossible to know or measure (and I've said this multiple times).

I think - just as the left needs to get over losing the election - you, the right, need to get over blaming everything going wrong on "butthurt" from "election loss". It's over now. Get over it. The Russian hacking may be having it's flames fanned by sore losers but it is not a product of "butt hurt" - it's a serious issue and I would think you would want to make sure we can prevent it from destabilizing the NEXT election - don't you think? That should be the focus here.
me personally, I stated that Seth Rich had the emails and it was no hack. I've never said anything else. Assange admitted who he got the info from. I have faith he's telling the truth. he isn't a politician. There was never a hack. EVAH!!!!!

The emails are the reference. how Assange got them he's already told the public. And the DNC says BS. Well if there was a hack, let's see the server. I've been saying that for quite some time. Prove me and Assange wrong? what are the afraid of" I'll tell you, being caught liars and now costing the country millions on investigations. oops.

But Coyote, I don't believe there was ever a hack. EVAH.

It wasn't a hack. The DNC SERVER has a DEMOCRATS.ORG domain, and you cannot find emails addressed to Podesta at Democrats.org.

Podesta's emails come from GMAIL.com primarily, and some from law.georgetown.edu. He accessed those accounts via a web client remotely. There were no cached copies of those emails on THE DNC SERVER.

The Dummy had to have left his PC on and not locked and had to have been logged in to all of these accounts via a web client, and had to have done this all the time for someone to regularly copy emails from those accounts, because they sure as Hell were not emails that were on THE DNC Server.


Wow, how simple - everyone is wrong, the intelligence agencies are wrong, there was no hack.

Some how, I doubt you've seen all the information or evidence.
 
Here is an example:

Note the email address. Gmail.com. NO hack occurred of THE DNC Server to copy this email and send it to Assange.


John Podesta: Pulling Back the Curtain on UFOs

From:[email protected] To: [email protected] Date: 2015-02-20 18:19 Subject: John Podesta: Pulling Back the Curtain on UFOs
[Leslie Kean Headshot] Leslie Kean<Leslie Kean | HuffPost>

Author, New York Times bestseller, 'UFOs: Generals, Pilots and Government Officials Go On the Record' John Podesta: Pulling Back the Curtain on UFOs Posted: 02/20/2015 11:53 am EST Updated: 2 hours ago [http://i1.huffpost.com/gen/2636000/thumbs/n-PODESTA-large.jpg]

Co-authored with Ralph Blumenthal It was the tweet heard round the worlds. On John Podesta's last day at the White House on February 13th, the longtime Presidential counselor, who is likely to chair a 2016 Hillary Clinton campaign, dashed off a confession that lit the blogosphere with thousands of retweets and comments: "Finally, my biggest failure of 2014: Once again not securing the #disclosure of the UFO files."

Along with the media, which couldn't resist a spoof by late-night comedian Jimmy Fallon, conspiracy theorists are having a field day. Taking Podesta's barb as confirmation of fantastic coverups by operatives with knowledge of extraterrestrials and twisted political agendas, they imagine Podesta himself holds devastating secrets. Some are claiming with bravado that their own activism is what prompted his recent lighthearted remark. The facts hardly bear that out.

Actually, as surprising as the tweet was, Podesta's position on the controversial issue was not exactly news. A staunch proponent of open government, he has previously called for the release of any government files on unidentified flying objects, or more broadly, unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP), that merit such action under existing law. As Chief of Staff for President Bill Clinton, Podesta pressed for Executive Order 12958 which declassified broad categories of information formerly withheld on the grounds of national security.

In 2002, Podesta began publicly supporting what became a landmark Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit filed by the Coalition for Freedom of Information, an independent advocacy group. NASA had been stonewalling and refusing to release its records concerning a significant 1965 UFO incident in Kecksburg, PA. Many witnesses described seeing a fireball in the evening sky, followed by a controlled landing and the systematic military recovery of a spacecraft-like object, rushed away on the back of a flatbed truck. As reported by local radio and newspapers, U.S. military personnel cordoned off the area, investigated the site, and left without ever providing a full report of the incident other than to dismiss it as a meteor. [http://s.huffpost.com/images/social/pin_icon_onhover.png]<Pinterest | Leslie%20Kean>[2015-02-20-drawing.jpg] One of many witness drawings of the Kecksburg object. Cell phones were not in use then. (Credit: courtesy Stan Gordon) During the lawsuit's final hearing in U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia in 2007, the exasperated Presiding Judge, Emmet G. Sullivan, declared that "heads should roll" at NASA and that NASA's case was a "ball of yarn." He approved a settlement that required NASA to comb through hundreds of documents in specified locations, and provide them to journalist and plaintiff Leslie Kean, under the watchful eye of the court. Success at forcing an agency to do this kind of extensive historical search under FOIA without Congressional intervention was unprecedented.

Podesta called the victory "a triumph for open government and the spirit of inquiry." [http://s.huffpost.com/images/social/pin_icon_onhover.png]<Pinterest | Leslie%20Kean>[2015-02-20-Podesta3.jpg]

John Podesta provided public support during the FOIA lawsuit against NASA, filed by the Coalition for Freedom of Information in 2003. (Credit: courtesy SCI FI Channel) But - there was one problem. The resulting documents did not include one iota of information relating to the Kecksburg case, despite an earnest and thorough effort by NASA staff. Three hundred boxes were searched, on top of the hundreds of pages released during the court proceedings prior to the settlement. Yet they revealed nothing about the case at hand. Could these be the "UFO files" that Podesta was alluding to in his tweet? Might there be others as well, stored in locations inaccessible to the FOIA in violation of the law? Podesta has been a brave voice for sanity and objectivity on a subject that is generally considered unworthy of serious discussion. In a foreword for Kean's 2010 book, UFOs: Generals, Pilots and Government Officials Go On the Record, Podesta wrote: "The time to pull the curtain back on this subject is long overdue." Describing himself as "a curious skeptic" who understands the difference between fact and fiction, he said the American people "want to know, and they can handle the truth." Official investigations around the world have consistently found that a small but significant percentage of sightings defy conventional explanation, most of them involving police officers, military personnel, pilots and air traffic controllers.

Physical evidence such as radar returns, measurable effects on the environment, or scientifically analyzed photographs accompany the best cases. In 2011, Podesta hosted a private meeting of government officials, scientists, and military and intelligence experts, organized by Kean and her coalition, at his liberal think tank, the Center for American Progress. A panel presented expert briefings backing the establishment of a modest official project to evaluate UAP in cooperation with other countries. "The official position of the U.S., which has denied the existence of any abnormal aerial phenomena since 1969, is a weighty handicap and has a negative influence on the attitude of many governments," wrote Yves Sillard, former Director General of the French National Space Center, in his briefing paper. "If this position could be modified, the U.S. would probably play a leading role in this necessary international effort." Ricardo Bermúdez, a retired Air Force general who directs the Chilean investigative effort, agrees. "United States participation would be beneficial for all countries," he stated. A U.S. agency is long overdue.

The Air Force's official investigation, Project Blue Book, was terminated in 1970 after two decades, since no sightings were determined to pose a national security threat. Yet over 700 cases remained unexplained. Since then, no branch of the government has investigated UAP. This lack of both transparency and responsive action to alarming UFO incidents undermines public trust. Some unidentified objects may be attributable to foreign military aircraft or drones, and should be of general defense interest. Other phenomena display such unusual characteristics that they are of broader scientific interest. Under certain circumstances, UAP can even raise air safety concerns. Still, the FAA discourages pilots from reporting any such incidents, in stark contrast to policy in Europe and South America. Official agencies in France and Chile, along with other South American countries, conduct rigorous, open UAP investigations. In 2014, the heads of these offices met in Paris for the first time, to begin a cooperative venture. The U.K. spent decades collecting data, but closed down its office in 2008 due to the overwhelming stream of Freedom of Information requests besieging the staff. Interest was so great that the Ministry of Defense decided to simply release all its documents online. [http://s.huffpost.com/images/social/pin_icon_onhover.png]<Pinterest | Leslie%20Kean>[2015-02-20-Geipan.jpg]

Xavier Passot, director of the French UAP agency GEIPAN, and Ricardo Bermúdez of Chile's CEFAA met on Oct. 30, 2014 to initiate a cooperative effort (Credit: courtesy CEFAA) Yet here at home, a 2012 poll showed that nearly 80% of Americans believe the government has concealed information about UFOs. As a result, frustrated citizens turn to fringe conspiracists seeking some way of understanding our irrational denial of this very real phenomenon. When UFO events occur here, civilian groups do the best they can in battling the obstacles to investigating them. At Chicago's O'Hare International Airport on Nov. 7, 2006, a metallic disc was observed hovering over the United Airlines terminal for at least five minutes, before shooting straight up in the sky, at great speed, cutting a hole in the cloud bank. This was not a flying machine known to any of the aviation experts who witnessed or later analyzed the event.

On March 13, 1997, hundreds if not thousands of citizens, including the governor at the time, saw massive delta-shaped objects gliding silently over Arizona. Like the Kecksburg case, this event has never been explained despite a class action lawsuit filed in 2000 by witnesses in Phoenix. A court-ordered search for information was issued to the Department of Defense, but once again, no pertinent records were obtained. Nonetheless, much more data on UFOs has been accumulated than ever before, and files have been released around the world. The phenomenon's physical reality is now firmly established. But its nature and origin remain a problem. Meanwhile, astronomers have reported that there could be as many as 40 billion habitable Earth-size planets in our galaxy; one out of every five sunlike stars has a planet the size of Earth orbiting it in the Goldilocks zone. We need to join the other countries taking responsible action in addressing this persistent mystery, preferably at the White House level where The Office of Science and Technology Policy is well positioned to take on this task. John Podesta supports the effort to appoint a government staffer for this purpose - and that is no surprise. ________________ Ralph Blumenthal is a former New York Times reporter who has written on UFOs. Leslie Kean is co-founder of the Coalition for Freedom of Information and the author of UFOs: Generals, Pilots, and Government Officials Go On the Record (Crown Publishing Group, 2010).
 
It doesn't contradict basic evidence at all - it contradicts your opinion of the evidence.

How do you KNOW they get caught "every time"? You don't. We also catch NK and Chinese hackers - and they are hardly amateur either. But I doubt we even catch them all the time.

There was embarressment about the DNC emails - but when all the noise died down - there really wasn't much of substance, there was nothing illegal, and nothing worth blackmail. Why was it "a thing" for 4 months? Have you considered the fact that there was an highly partisan election ongoing that might have made and kept it in the media attention - not to mention lots of real and fake news, promises of new leaks of emails etc to keep it in the news? Very skillfully done but you and I both know what becomes news and waht stays in the news isn't necessarily what's important right?

The DNC chairs resigned because it was embarrassing for the DNC and - they could not effectively do their jobs with that sort of media blitz.

I am paying attention to what actually occurred.

If the Russians didn't do it - there would not be agreement, someone would speak out and for sure the REPUBLICANS would use it! That's why it would have to be a conspiracy and that takes a much bigger leap of faith than does Putin, acting as Putin has acted for some time now, and doing what Russia/USSR has long done.
again, the proof they hurt her is in her loss. There wouldn't need to be the whole Russia, Russia, thingy if there wasn't anything there, or butt hurt after the loss. just wouldn't. your premise is all wrong.


Hold on a second. You need to get your story straight. Weren't you previously saying the hacking had NO effect on the election? Now you are saying it DID?

Aside from that - they can hurt her by giving the APPEARANCE of something, by how people interpret it and how they think it reflects her character. Not whether there is something worth blackmailing. There is no way of knowing whether the hacks had an affect on her loss - there are too many variables there and it's impossible to know or measure (and I've said this multiple times).

I think - just as the left needs to get over losing the election - you, the right, need to get over blaming everything going wrong on "butthurt" from "election loss". It's over now. Get over it. The Russian hacking may be having it's flames fanned by sore losers but it is not a product of "butt hurt" - it's a serious issue and I would think you would want to make sure we can prevent it from destabilizing the NEXT election - don't you think? That should be the focus here.
me personally, I stated that Seth Rich had the emails and it was no hack. I've never said anything else. Assange admitted who he got the info from. I have faith he's telling the truth. he isn't a politician. There was never a hack. EVAH!!!!!

The emails are the reference. how Assange got them he's already told the public. And the DNC says BS. Well if there was a hack, let's see the server. I've been saying that for quite some time. Prove me and Assange wrong? what are the afraid of" I'll tell you, being caught liars and now costing the country millions on investigations. oops.

But Coyote, I don't believe there was ever a hack. EVAH.

It wasn't a hack. The DNC SERVER has a DEMOCRATS.ORG domain, and you cannot find emails addressed to Podesta at Democrats.org.

Podesta's emails come from GMAIL.com primarily, and some from law.georgetown.edu. He accessed those accounts via a web client remotely. There were no cached copies of those emails on THE DNC SERVER.

The Dummy had to have left his PC on and not locked and had to have been logged in to all of these accounts via a web client, and had to have done this all the time for someone to regularly copy emails from those accounts, because they sure as Hell were not emails that were on THE DNC Server.


Wow, how simple - everyone is wrong, the intelligence agencies are wrong, there was no hack.

Some how, I doubt you've seen all the information or evidence.
Go ahead and look through all of Podesta's Wikileaks emails.

I work in IT. It's common sense that in order to claim that a server was hacked and emails were taken from that domain's mail server that the emails taken ought to be addressed to that mail server's domain.

The DNC server was not hacked. I keep looking for Democrat.org emails, but all I find are emails from external web based accounts which means the dummy had to have a PC logged on and logged in to those accounts like 24-7 for someone to copy them.

The only Democrat.org emails I ever found were few and far between and they were random spam type news letter kind of emails SENT to Podesta to his private accounts, never FROM PODESTA.

So the only logical conclusion is THE DNC lied to deflect from the ugliness of THE PODESTA emails in the midst of a campaign.

PODESTA cannot even prove he had a Democrats.org account.

The DNC server was not hacked.
 
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It doesn't contradict basic evidence at all - it contradicts your opinion of the evidence.

How do you KNOW they get caught "every time"? You don't. We also catch NK and Chinese hackers - and they are hardly amateur either. But I doubt we even catch them all the time.

There was embarressment about the DNC emails - but when all the noise died down - there really wasn't much of substance, there was nothing illegal, and nothing worth blackmail. Why was it "a thing" for 4 months? Have you considered the fact that there was an highly partisan election ongoing that might have made and kept it in the media attention - not to mention lots of real and fake news, promises of new leaks of emails etc to keep it in the news? Very skillfully done but you and I both know what becomes news and waht stays in the news isn't necessarily what's important right?

The DNC chairs resigned because it was embarrassing for the DNC and - they could not effectively do their jobs with that sort of media blitz.

I am paying attention to what actually occurred.

If the Russians didn't do it - there would not be agreement, someone would speak out and for sure the REPUBLICANS would use it! That's why it would have to be a conspiracy and that takes a much bigger leap of faith than does Putin, acting as Putin has acted for some time now, and doing what Russia/USSR has long done.
again, the proof they hurt her is in her loss. There wouldn't need to be the whole Russia, Russia, thingy if there wasn't anything there, or butt hurt after the loss. just wouldn't. your premise is all wrong.


Hold on a second. You need to get your story straight. Weren't you previously saying the hacking had NO effect on the election? Now you are saying it DID?

Aside from that - they can hurt her by giving the APPEARANCE of something, by how people interpret it and how they think it reflects her character. Not whether there is something worth blackmailing. There is no way of knowing whether the hacks had an affect on her loss - there are too many variables there and it's impossible to know or measure (and I've said this multiple times).

I think - just as the left needs to get over losing the election - you, the right, need to get over blaming everything going wrong on "butthurt" from "election loss". It's over now. Get over it. The Russian hacking may be having it's flames fanned by sore losers but it is not a product of "butt hurt" - it's a serious issue and I would think you would want to make sure we can prevent it from destabilizing the NEXT election - don't you think? That should be the focus here.
me personally, I stated that Seth Rich had the emails and it was no hack. I've never said anything else. Assange admitted who he got the info from. I have faith he's telling the truth. he isn't a politician. There was never a hack. EVAH!!!!!

The emails are the reference. how Assange got them he's already told the public. And the DNC says BS. Well if there was a hack, let's see the server. I've been saying that for quite some time. Prove me and Assange wrong? what are the afraid of" I'll tell you, being caught liars and now costing the country millions on investigations. oops.

But Coyote, I don't believe there was ever a hack. EVAH.

It wasn't a hack. The DNC SERVER has a DEMOCRATS.ORG domain, and you cannot find emails addressed to Podesta at Democrats.org.

Podesta's emails come from GMAIL.com primarily, and some from law.georgetown.edu. He accessed those accounts via a web client remotely. There were no cached copies of those emails on THE DNC SERVER.

The Dummy had to have left his PC on and not locked and had to have been logged in to all of these accounts via a web client, and had to have done this all the time for someone to regularly copy emails from those accounts, because they sure as Hell were not emails that were on THE DNC Server.


Wow, how simple - everyone is wrong, the intelligence agencies are wrong, there was no hack.

Some how, I doubt you've seen all the information or evidence.
exactly, you got it, that's the ticket. See, in order for someone to say there was a hack, someone in one of those agencies would have had to seen the server. you do know no one has seen that server right? tell me you know this. then ask, how can the intelligence agency say that if they haven't looked at the server? Then you and I would be on the same page. I call em all liars and criminals. each and everyone of them. and if you know they haven't looked at the equipment that was ground zero, then you'd have to ask, how would they ever know? Now tree in here has provide some nice information regarding the domain names on the emails and where they came from and it isn't the DNC server. ooops..
 
Funny how snowflakes dismiss that Seth Rich was involved with the DNC email leak, but have no trouble at all claiming that Trump will kill hundreds of thousands of people if Obama is repealed.

Why is no one discussing the fact that THE DNC claims it's server was hacked, and The DNC uses the domain Democrats.org

And the Podesta Emails Leaked to Wikileaks was from Podesta's GMAIL ACCOUNT?


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What a fucking mess.
 
Funny how snowflakes dismiss that Seth Rich was involved with the DNC email leak, but have no trouble at all claiming that Trump will kill hundreds of thousands of people if Obama is repealed.

Why is no one discussing the fact that THE DNC claims it's server was hacked, and The DNC uses the domain Democrats.org

And the Podesta Emails Leaked to Wikileaks was from Podesta's GMAIL ACCOUNT?


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What a fucking mess.
dude, they have no shame. Look at what they've done to our country and the EU. These people are social deviates who hate life. They wish all humans dead. That's why they will never use the phrase jihadist islamic terrorist. they believe in their jihad.
 
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Funny how snowflakes dismiss that Seth Rich was involved with the DNC email leak, but have no trouble at all claiming that Trump will kill hundreds of thousands of people if Obama is repealed.

Why is no one discussing the fact that THE DNC claims it's server was hacked, and The DNC uses the domain Democrats.org

And the Podesta Emails Leaked to Wikileaks was from Podesta's GMAIL ACCOUNT?


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What a fucking mess.
dude, they have no shame. Look at what they've done to our country and the EU.

BTW this is also EXACTLY why THE DNC won't let anyone look at THE DNC SERVER nor post any logs or any evidence at all from that server for people to look at. As soon as they did, people with a brain would rip their Lying Narrative to Shreds.

How can you phucking claim your server was hacked in the middle of a presidential election campaign and No Democrats.org emails to Podesta can be found at Wikileaks?
 
Funny how snowflakes dismiss that Seth Rich was involved with the DNC email leak, but have no trouble at all claiming that Trump will kill hundreds of thousands of people if Obama is repealed.

Why is no one discussing the fact that THE DNC claims it's server was hacked, and The DNC uses the domain Democrats.org

And the Podesta Emails Leaked to Wikileaks was from Podesta's GMAIL ACCOUNT?


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What a fucking mess.
dude, they have no shame. Look at what they've done to our country and the EU.

BTW this is also EXACTLY why THE DNC won't let anyone look at THE DNC SERVER nor post any logs or any evidence at all from that server for people to look at. As soon as they did, people with a brain would rip their Lying Narrative to Shreds.

How can you phucking claim your server was hacked in the middle of a presidential election campaign and No Democrats.org emails to Podesta can be found at Wikileaks?
man two in one day....

:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:
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This thread is going as I intended it to...you never know when one will get traction. What we've seen is the ageless conflict between drives and values. The leftist elite know there was no "collusion" between Trump and the Ivans. They're using it as a vehicle to disrupt Trump's agenda and make themselves some money at the same time. Chuck Schumer and his ilk at the MSM are having a ball destroying their own brands...it's the left's version of the Order of the Orange Blossom where a young pilot aims his Mitsubishi at his own ship. My thesis of our intel services creating the Russian scenario to hide their own mischief isn't anything new. Putin seems genuinely offended but not surprised as we've used his Russia to build a gigantic defense industry and play games inside virtually every country in the world.

Can an election outcome be gamed? Of course it can and there are YouTube videos that show how it's done. Outside of paper ballots, which the democrats have used for years to cheat the American people (Nixon actually won Illinois and defeated Kennedy in 1960), we have no alternative to electronic voting and the possibility of hacking. Again, the democrats are spilling their own beans with the hoax they're running now. They can't win an accurate count in other than a couple states and they know it. Cheaters are always the first to raise suspicions at the poker table and the ballot box.
 
Putin hacked us.
Putin hacked the DNC.
Putin hacked the RNC.



Covfefe with two scoops please..Vlad the Impaler would never do anything like that..His hired henchmen would though...But what strikes me as stupid, is to believe that you would believe that Trump doesn't emulate a man that is richer than himself..


So would Donny Two Scoops but yes, it came from the top. It came from Putin.

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It really is the only people that Trump has any respect for, richer than he be folks..
cause you do business with him eh? too funny, you know shit.
I have know shit all my life, just like yous..
 
Funny how snowflakes dismiss that Seth Rich was involved with the DNC email leak, but have no trouble at all claiming that Trump will kill hundreds of thousands of people if Obama is repealed.
Angus I'ts not getting repealed Repub congress have weak knees,,,can't replace or repeal obama care
 

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