Putin is about to launch the Russian version of Shock & Awe on Ukraine

[sparky]

~S~

 

[Ringo]

Got any credible evidence for that?
Which side is being accused of using Al-Qaeda terrorists in Ukraine?

In the Moscow region, FSB officers detained a citizen of Ukraine with two portable "Igla" anti-aircraft missile systems.
There are 4 civilian airports around Moscow. What he wanted to do, I think, there is no need to explain.

And to the guys from the FSB - thank you for your work!

 

[gipper]

If they were capable of shocking and aweing Ukraine they would have done so by now.

You can’t really believe that. It’s terribly naive.

If Russia wanted to destroy Ukraine they could have, without resorting to nukes. Putin went in softly hoping for a quick negotiated settlement, which he got in April. Sadly the warmongers in the West demanded more war.

 

[braalian]

You can’t really believe that. It’s terribly naive.

If Russia wanted to destroy Ukraine they could have, without resorting to nukes. Putin went in softly hoping for a quick negotiated settlement, which he got in April. Sadly the warmongers in the West demanded more war.

That’s like saying Hitler went in softly to Czechoslovakia and Poland, and that Britain and France were the warmongers.

 

[gipper]

In the Moscow region, FSB officers detained a citizen of Ukraine with two portable "Igla" anti-aircraft missile systems.
There are 4 civilian airports around Moscow. What he wanted to do, I think, there is no need to explain.

And to the guys from the FSB - thank you for your work!

I suspect something like this might happen in one of the NATO nations bordering Russia. Then they blame Russia and we have WWIII. A false flag. Much like O and Kerry tried to do with MH17.

 

[braalian]

“False flag” = unfounded conspiracy theorist

 

[gipper]

That’s like saying Hitler went in softly to Czechoslovakia and Poland, and that Britain and France were the warmongers.

That’s silly. If you don’t think Russia could have turned Kyiv into rubble in a few days time, you’re incapable of thinking.

I’ve seen this kind of deluded thinking by family members. They think Russia is a paper tiger completely incompetent. It’s dumb thinking.

 

[gipper]

“False flag” = unfounded conspiracy theorist

Lol. Yeah they’ve never happened before, right?

 

[braalian]

You can’t really believe that. It’s terribly naive.

If Russia wanted to destroy Ukraine they could have, without resorting to nukes. Putin went in softly hoping for a quick negotiated settlement, which he got in April. Sadly the warmongers in the West demanded more war.

Are you really saying Putin has been more peaceful than the West in this?

 

[braalian]

They think Russia is a paper tiger completely incompetent.

Since the collapse of the Soviet Union, Russia has proven itself to be just that at every turn.

Why do you think they haven’t been considered a super power anymore for the past 30 years?

 

[gipper]

Since the collapse of the Soviet Union, Russia has proven itself to be just that at every turn.

Why do you think they haven’t been considered a super power anymore for the past 30 years?

Yeah they’ve only got the largest nuclear arsenal in the world and one of the world’s largest militaries.

 

[Ringo]

Are you really saying Putin has been more peaceful than the West in this?

Of course not! Look how close he has moved Russia's borders to US military bases.

 

[gipper]

Of course you do. The Ukrainian army is making steady progress in both the south and northeast and the Russian forces are in steady retreat. The Ukrainians have been following a successful strategy of preventing Russia from resupplying its front line troops which is creating weak spots all along the Russian lines and brilliant tactical moves that force the Russians to move troops to further create weak spots along the Russian lines. So far Russian commoners seem to have no strategy at all to guide their movements. There is no reason to think this trend can be reversed.

Here we go! Escalation leads to further escalations and pretty soon, we’ve got WWIII. You warmongering whores must be so happy.

The perfect red line trifecta​

Already, over the weekend, it was clear the ultimate red line had been crossed. Russian public opinion and media were furious. For all its status as an engineering marvel, Krymsky Most represents not only critical infrastructure; it is the visual symbol of the return of Crimea to Russia.

Moreover, this was a personal terror attack on Putin and the whole Russian security apparatus.

So we had, in sequence, Ukrainian terrorists blowing up Darya Dugina’s car in a Moscow suburb (they admitted it); US/UK special forces (partially) blowing Nord Stream and Nord Stream 2 (they admitted and then retracted); and the terror attack on Krymsky Most (once again: admitted then retracted).

Not to mention the shelling of Russian villages in Belgorod, NATO supplying long-range weapons to Kiev, and the routine execution of Russian soldiers.

Darya Dugina, Nord Streams and Crimea Bridge make it an Act of War trifecta. So this time the response was inevitable – not even waiting for the first meeting since February of the Russian Security Council scheduled for the afternoon of 10 October.
Escobar: Terror On Crimea Bridge Forces Russia To Unleash Shock'n'Awe | ZeroHedge

 

[para bellum]

Got any credible evidence for that?
Which side is being accused of using Al-Qaeda terrorists in Ukraine?

Terrorists from Syria go to Ukraine to fight Russia: will Turkey suffer?

"'The main problem is the foreign fighters, they have nowhere to go,' said Sinan Ulgen, a former Turkish diplomat and analyst with Carnegie Europe.

"Sending the terrorists to Ukraine is one solution that the US and NATO are using. Just as the Obama administration used the Al Qaeda terrorists to fight the Syrian government for regime change, those same terrorists can be utilized to fight the Russians in Ukraine and Idlib."

LMAO. This is from March 6.

The "terrorists" they refer to are the Free Syrian Army, who were fighting Assad.

Although it would not surprise me if there were fighters from Syria fighting for Ukraine- there are fighters from dozens of countries on Ukraine's side, I have not seen or read any evidence of it.

Your post is ancient history. It would be like if I posted the story of the Russian disaster trying to cross the S-D back in May and pretended it was current.

What was going on in late February and early March is very different than what is going on today. There is a waiting list for foreigners who want to sign up with Ukraine, and only people with combat experience are considered.

Russia is attempting to mobilize replacements, while Zelensky cancelled the fall conscription because Ukraine has more volunteers than they can field.

Look at pictures of the AFU today and look at pictures of the Russian conscripts. The AFU are all properly kitted out with new uniforms and body armor and ballistic helmets, they have NVG's and radios, etc. The Russian recruits are lucky if they get a uniform, and if they want body armor and first aid kits they have to buy them for themselves. It's the exact opposite of what it was like in March- the Russians were kitted out, and the Ukrainians were the ragtag bunch.

The Ukrainians get rotated out from the front on a regular schedule, and they are getting fresh recruits trained in several western countries as well as a steady stream of new weapons and supplies.

The AFU retook about 10,000 km^2 in September. That is more than all the territory Russia had gained since "refocusing" on the Donbas in April. A lot more, btw.

At the high water mark- end of March, before the pullout from Kiev- Russia had about 27% of Ukraine. It's about 16% today, Ukraine has retaken about 40% of the territory held by Russia on March 25th.

Watch the videos of the AFU liberating the towns and villages around Kharkiv, Izium, Kherson- the places that are supposedly "pro-Russia". The people line the streets to greet the soldiers, and tell them "don't ever leave us". It's crystal clear who the liberators are.

Winning for Russia means achieving their invasion objectives. Winning for Ukraine means denying those objectives and kicking the Russian army out of Ukraine. Ukraine does not have to march to Moscow to win the war, they are not trying to take over Russia.

With each defeat, Russia scales back it's goals and Putin shuffles his deck of generals, and you guys say "Russia is winning, yay!" And yet Russia has failed to achieve a single goal of the invasion. Putin annexes territory while his army is on the run, and then says "hey, let's talk!".

Yeah, right. Like that's going to happen...

 

[georgephillip]

The "terrorists" they refer to are the Free Syrian Army, who were fighting Assad.

Any "terrorists" in the Al-Nusra Front?

Free Syrian Army - Wikipedia

"In April–May 2013, FSA was losing fighters to Salafist jihadist organisation Al-Nusra Front which was emerging as the best-equipped, financed and motivated anti-Assad force, concluded The Guardian after interviewing FSA commanders across Syria.[295]

"FSA commander Basha said that in the last few months 3,000 FSA fighters had gone over to al-Nusra..."

It isn't surprising when right-wing religious fanatics fight alongside Nazis in Ukraine, is it?

 

[georgephillip]

The Ukrainians get rotated out from the front on a regular schedule, and they are getting fresh recruits trained in several western countries as well as a steady stream of new weapons and supplies.

How many Ukrainians were killed and wounded in their latest offensives? Douglas Macgregor has claimed 100,000 dead with 3-4 times that number wounded.

 

[georgephillip]

In the Moscow region, FSB officers detained a citizen of Ukraine with two portable "Igla" anti-aircraft missile systems.
There are 4 civilian airports around Moscow. What he wanted to do, I think, there is no need to explain.

And to the guys from the FSB - thank you for your work!

If Ukraine resorts to attacking civilians inside Russia, will that convince Putin to withdraw?

 

[Astrostar]

For the last several months Putin's special military operation was a model of how to wage a humanitarian war. He directed the Russian army to avoid killing Ukrainian citizens and bombing infrastructure targets as much as possible.

But the psycho Zelensky's terrorist bombing attack on the Kerch bridge inside the Russian territory of Crimea is a game changer.

Putin is going to take a page out of the U.S. military's playbook on conducting war like they did in Iraq and Afghanistan
Basically, pick up a sledge hammer and destroy everything in Ukraine, buildings, power plants, electric grid, warehouses, dams, municipal water plants, etc.

Putin is currently assembling and training hundreds of thousands of new Russian soldiers and arming them with new tanks, missiles, artillery, drones, small arms weapons, and a massive amount of ammo.

All that Putin is waiting for is temperatures to start falling and freeze the ground.
So the Russian tanks, armored assault vehicles, and supply trucks won't get stuck in the mud and the entire country of Ukraine will be like a cement highway swarming with the steadily advancing Russian army.

In less than 90 days the psycho criminal Zelensky will be begging Putin for a truce and huge POW camps quickly built to house all the Ukrainian prisoners of war.

Before Trump, how many dumb asses in America would have admitted they support America's number one enemy, Russia?

 

[Sunni Man]

Before Trump, how many dumb asses in America would have admitted they support America's number one enemy, Russia?

Pres. Roosevelt and Pres. Truman plus the entire Democrat party had mad love for Stalin and Russia.

 

[gipper]

Before Trump, how many dumb asses in America would have admitted they support America's number one enemy, Russia?

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