Q1 2019 watch - if under 3.0% - where is Trump’s economic miracle - can Trump beat O’s 2.9% ever?

[Rustic]

Here’s the record thru 2018:
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U.S. - GDP growth by year 1990-2017 | Statista

Trump and Obama are tied a 2.9 Best full year of GDP growth.

Do you think Trump’s Q1 this year will break the tie and boost Trump to 3.0 or more?

Do you believe Trump will ever get a full year of GDP growth this high?

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Some experts - The liberal fake news WSJ is forecasting 1.4% for Q1.

• Economic Forecasting Survey - The Wall Street Journal. Economist Q&A. Forecast Edition: March 2019 ..... Projected: Q1 2019. 1.4%. Projected: Q2 2019. 2.6%. Projected: Q3 2019. 2.2%. Projected: ...

Trump supporters tell us your forecast?

What happens if Trump’s third year ends (GDP-wise) anywhere below Obama’s 2.9% in 2015?

According to Trump 2.9 is anemic and weak.

"Obama is the first president in modern history not to have a single year of 3 percent growth," Trump said during an Oct. 28 campaign rally in Manchester, N.H.

Trump's claim about Obama's weak economic growth is limited

Do you think Trump will be the second president in modern history not to have a single year of 3 percent growth,"

What does an “anemic” Trump do for Obama’s legacy?

• Moving forward, there are reasons to believe that growth will continue to be slower than was originally hoped. Annual U.S. GDP growth exceeding 3.0 percent, as experienced in the mid- to late 1990s and mid-2000s, is not expected to be attainable over the coming decade.

The U.S. economy to 2022: settling into a new normal : Monthly Labor Review: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

Are we settling into a new normal that is not so horrible without 3% sustained GDP growth?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

No, he should be congratulated for ending Bush's Great Recession.

In 5 months! His slow recovery was awesome!

Again, you were shown the rate of employment growth and saw how it's been steady for the last 9 years and you were unable to explain why that rate hasn't increased since trump's been in office.

How many people are available to be hired with unemployment at 3.8%

Why was Obama's GDP growth so weak?
Not enough burdensome regulations?

Why is Trump's GDP growth so weak?

Compared to...?

Compared to Obama...Trump's best year is no better than Obama's best year

 

[bripat9643]

Actually, the Great Recession started in Dec of 2007 and ended less than 5 Months into the Lying Cocksucker's disease-ridden term in office.

And you think saying that contradicts....what?

Obama started out with a Great Recession on his hands and it would have been a whole lot deeper if he wasn't on board with the bailout's Bush adminsitration started, QE on monetary side and Stimulus on fiscal side.

Horseshit. Obama's schemes made it worse, not better.

It's always amusing when the USMB's fucking moron chimes in.

A moron is someone who believes that graph supports your claim.

It shows a steady rise in employment for the last 9 years. You know, what fucking morons call a slow recovery.

What it needs to show is that this result was better than doing nothing, and the record of past recessions indicates it isn't.

 

[bripat9643]

In 5 months! His slow recovery was awesome!

Again, you were shown the rate of employment growth and saw how it's been steady for the last 9 years and you were unable to explain why that rate hasn't increased since trump's been in office.

How many people are available to be hired with unemployment at 3.8%

Why was Obama's GDP growth so weak?
Not enough burdensome regulations?

Why is Trump's GDP growth so weak?

Compared to...?

Compared to Obama...Trump's best year is no better than Obama's best year

Have you totally dropped your pretense being a libertarian?

 

[bripat9643]

...there is ZERO connection between "Obama's 9th quarter" and Trump's 9th quarter - THEY ARE TWO DIFFERENT ECONOMIES. Trump didn't start 1st Q, he started on Obama's last.

You don't want to compare their performance? That's a shocker!

Sure, one led us out of a recession and into the longest streak of job growth in U.S. history while the other is riding that wave.

Sure, one led us out of a recession

Yeah, that weak recovery was weak.....

If this is a weak recovery, how come the rate of growth is no greater now under trump than it was under Obama?

If this is a weak recovery,

Weakest recovery since WWII.

Since the Great Depression.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Again, you were shown the rate of employment growth and saw how it's been steady for the last 9 years and you were unable to explain why that rate hasn't increased since trump's been in office.

How many people are available to be hired with unemployment at 3.8%

Why was Obama's GDP growth so weak?
Not enough burdensome regulations?

Why is Trump's GDP growth so weak?

Compared to...?

Compared to Obama...Trump's best year is no better than Obama's best year

Have you totally dropped your pretense being a libertarian?

How does starting a fact remove me from being a libertarian?

This might be a shock to you, but libertarians do not kiss Trump's ass like you sheep do.

 

[bripat9643]

No, our economy began its recovery in 2nd quarter of 2009. In previous recessions, we recovered much quicker than the 2007/2008 recession. President Obama's recovery brought back a word used to describe the economy of President Carter, malaise.

Bush's Great Recession was far worse than any other since the Great Depression.

Oh please you guys are so full of shit, Bush inherited a bad recession after silicon valley imploded in the late 90s......calm down bro

You mean the recession that started after Bush became president? The one that likely wouldn't have even been a recession if not for 9.11?

Technically the recession didn't start until Bush, but I meant when Silcon Valley started to implode BEFORE Bush became President

Dot-com bubble - Wikipedia

The burst of the bubble, known as the dot-com crash, lasted from March 11, 2000, to October 9, 2002.[
March 11, 2000, who was the President of the United States?

Wikipedia??



Regardless, at least you show Bush didn't inherit a recession. Even you admit it started after he became president and you can't inherit something that didn't exist before your presidency.

Actually, he did. The stock market bubble burst during the Clinton administration.

 

[bripat9643]

How many people are available to be hired with unemployment at 3.8%

Why was Obama's GDP growth so weak?
Not enough burdensome regulations?

Why is Trump's GDP growth so weak?

Compared to...?

Compared to Obama...Trump's best year is no better than Obama's best year

Have you totally dropped your pretense being a libertarian?

How does starting a fact remove me from being a libertarian?

This might be a shock to you, but libertarians do not kiss Trump's ass like you sheep do.

It's an irrelevant fact. You're defending Obama's economic policies.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Bush's Great Recession was far worse than any other since the Great Depression.

Oh please you guys are so full of shit, Bush inherited a bad recession after silicon valley imploded in the late 90s......calm down bro

You mean the recession that started after Bush became president? The one that likely wouldn't have even been a recession if not for 9.11?

Technically the recession didn't start until Bush, but I meant when Silcon Valley started to implode BEFORE Bush became President

Dot-com bubble - Wikipedia

The burst of the bubble, known as the dot-com crash, lasted from March 11, 2000, to October 9, 2002.[
March 11, 2000, who was the President of the United States?

Wikipedia??



Regardless, at least you show Bush didn't inherit a recession. Even you admit it started after he became president and you can't inherit something that didn't exist before your presidency.

Actually, he did. The stock market bubble burst during the Clinton administration.

Technically the recession did not start till March.

https://www.nber.org/cycles.html

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Why is Trump's GDP growth so weak?

Compared to...?

Compared to Obama...Trump's best year is no better than Obama's best year

Have you totally dropped your pretense being a libertarian?

How does starting a fact remove me from being a libertarian?

This might be a shock to you, but libertarians do not kiss Trump's ass like you sheep do.

It's an irrelevant fact. You're defending Obama's economic policies.

No, not at all. I think Obama sucked. I just do not think Trump is very much better than Obama was...and so far that has been proven correct.

 

[bripat9643]

Oh please you guys are so full of shit, Bush inherited a bad recession after silicon valley imploded in the late 90s......calm down bro

You mean the recession that started after Bush became president? The one that likely wouldn't have even been a recession if not for 9.11?

Technically the recession didn't start until Bush, but I meant when Silcon Valley started to implode BEFORE Bush became President

Dot-com bubble - Wikipedia

The burst of the bubble, known as the dot-com crash, lasted from March 11, 2000, to October 9, 2002.[
March 11, 2000, who was the President of the United States?

Wikipedia??



Regardless, at least you show Bush didn't inherit a recession. Even you admit it started after he became president and you can't inherit something that didn't exist before your presidency.

Actually, he did. The stock market bubble burst during the Clinton administration.

Technically the recession did not start till March.

https://www.nber.org/cycles.html

We all know what caused it: the bursting of the dot.com stock market bubble, and that happened in the last quarter of the Clinton administration.

 

[bripat9643]

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So, the slow steady decline of the GDP growth for the last 30 years is Obama's fault?

Has nothing to do with the simple mathematics that the larger some thing gets the harder it is to get high percentage changes.

Who says that?

 

[bripat9643]

Compared to...?

Compared to Obama...Trump's best year is no better than Obama's best year

Have you totally dropped your pretense being a libertarian?

How does starting a fact remove me from being a libertarian?

This might be a shock to you, but libertarians do not kiss Trump's ass like you sheep do.

It's an irrelevant fact. You're defending Obama's economic policies.

No, not at all. I think Obama sucked. I just do not think Trump is very much better than Obama was...and so far that has been proven correct.

How can that be when he has repealed everything Obama did?

 

[bripat9643]

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So, the slow steady decline of the GDP growth for the last 30 years is Obama's fault?

Has nothing to do with the simple mathematics that the larger some thing gets the harder it is to get high percentage changes.

So, the slow steady decline of the GDP growth for the last 30 years is Obama's fault?

Obama should be congratulated for the slowest recovery since WWII?

No, he should be congratulated for ending Bush's Great Recession.

That recession ended before Obama was inaugurated.

 

[Markle]

No you don't always and I've never claimed that we would have an all out Great Depression level of contraction. But like I said, if he didn't embrace expansionary policies he did we would have considerably less growth and a lot more pain out of the recession.

I take it you are aware that all the spending and policies forced on us by FDR extended the Great Depression by seven years?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

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So, the slow steady decline of the GDP growth for the last 30 years is Obama's fault?

Has nothing to do with the simple mathematics that the larger some thing gets the harder it is to get high percentage changes.

So, the slow steady decline of the GDP growth for the last 30 years is Obama's fault?

Obama should be congratulated for the slowest recovery since WWII?

No, he should be congratulated for ending Bush's Great Recession.

That recession ended before Obama was inaugurated.

Wrong again...https://www.nber.org/cycles.html

 

[Harpy Eagle]

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So, the slow steady decline of the GDP growth for the last 30 years is Obama's fault?

Has nothing to do with the simple mathematics that the larger some thing gets the harder it is to get high percentage changes.

Who says that?

who says what?

 

[Markle]

...I really don't know what the fuck is going on in that little politico rat brain of yours but it ain't healthy.

On regulatory side Obama passed
Dodd–Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act - Wikipedia

Will it prevent all recessions here on out? No one knows....now what did Trump do?

Most amusing isn't it? Barney Frank and Chris Dodd had their fingerprints all over the mortgage/housing/financial meltdown and that's who failed former President Barack Hussein Obama appointed to solve the problems. Does that sound like the fox guarding the hen house?

What did the Consumer Protection Act do to improve the economy? Nothing, it was detrimental and has harmed the economy.

 

[Markle]

If this is a weak recovery, how come the rate of growth is no greater now under trump than it was under Obama?

As you know, the rate of growth is indicated by the GDP which is above that of failed former President Barack Hussein Obama.

Are you serious? Once you get down to full employment it is extremely difficult to push it down further below that level. That makes sense, doesn't it? Today we have far more job openings than we do jobs. Unemployment for blacks is the lowest in history and wages are beginning to increase.

 

[Faun]

No, he should be congratulated for ending Bush's Great Recession.

In 5 months! His slow recovery was awesome!

Again, you were shown the rate of employment growth and saw how it's been steady for the last 9 years and you were unable to explain why that rate hasn't increased since trump's been in office.

How many people are available to be hired with unemployment at 3.8%

Why was Obama's GDP growth so weak?
Not enough burdensome regulations?

Millions are available.

As far as GDP, you already demonstrated it's been declining for decades following a recession.

So the overnight rate is 9 times higher under Trump but the employment growth is about the same?

There is no rate 9 times higher under trump. And yes, the growth rate is the same.