Q1 2019 watch - if under 3.0% - where is Trump’s economic miracle - can Trump beat O’s 2.9% ever?

[WTH_Progs?]

Which Post WWII president had to recover from a recession as bad as the Great Bush Recession of 2008?

Tell us.

So what recovery are you comparing Obama’s. recovery to?

How can you call Obama’s recovery weak since TrumpO has not grown the economy during either of his two full years any more than two of Obama’s Best years.

Toddsterpatriot, post: 22184713,

Really? Who had a weaker recovery than Obama? Link?

Which Post WWII president had to recover from a recession as bad as the Great Bush Recession of 2008?

Tell us.

So what recovery are you comparing Obama’s. recovery to?

How can you call Obama’s recovery weak since TrumpO has not grown the economy during either of his two full years any more than two of Obama’s Best years.

Which Post WWII president had to recover from a recession as bad as the Great Bush Recession of 2008? Obama. Actually slid on his watch, he didn't have public confidence. What goes down must come up, that's USA economics. Historically low interest rates saved us. BTW, the Democrats controlled congress when we dove into the "Great BUSH Recession".

Tell us. Mouse in your pocket? (JK)

So what recovery are you comparing Obama’s. recovery to? Couldn't tell you.

How can you call Obama’s recovery weak. It was slow going, topsy turby. Recovery was slowed by things like Obamacare.

since TrumpO has not grown the economy during either of his two full years any more than two of Obama’s Best years. You just said it......Trump years matched Obama's best years. Best two of three years to be exact. After this year it should match or exceed 3 of Obama's best 3. Against higher interest rates too. The GDP was 1.6 when Trump took over. Trump is consecutive 2.2 & 2.9.........Back to my point about recovery following recession. There was more room for recovery under Obama than Trump. Basic mathematics, economics and logic generally missed by the talking heads. Fuck I didn't even finish grade school - the talking heads just suck. Obama was an underachiever. All while putting a strain on society with identity politics. Shit those were the good old days. Now progs want open borders, free stuff on free stuff, mass poverty, wealth disparity (they're mostly progs), inflation, compromised wages, high taxes on middle class and business, drug abuse. A big fucking party.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

protectionist, post: 22645522

How can you call Obama’s recovery weak since TrumpO has not grown the economy during either of his two full years any more than two of Obama’s Best years.

Wow.You must have been watching a lot of CNN/MSNBC. Couldn't be farther out in space on this. This is the greatest and longest economic expansion in USA history.

Yes and about seven of the ten year expansion was Obama’s.

Thank you. I have been making that point for months.

You are an idiot if you think this historic expansion started with the inauguration of the Great White MAGA Hope.

TrumpO is the second president in this historic. ten year expansion not to have a single year of GDP rise above 3.0%.

Each have a single high year at 2.9%.

TrumpO set the bar at 3.0%.

"Obama is the first president in modern history not to have a single year of 3 percent growth," Trump said during an Oct. 28 campaign rally in Manchester, N.H.

Does TrumpO need to get GDP higher than Obama’s single year at 2.9 before running around bragging that his economy is so much greater than Obama’s?

If not why the double standard?

 

[protectionist]

Yes and about seven of the ten year expansion was Obama’s.

Thank you. I have been making that point for months.

You are an idiot if you think this historic expansion started with the inauguration of the Great White MAGA Hope.

TrumpO is the second president in this historic. ten year expansion not to have a single year of GDP rise above 3.0%.

FALSE! POTUS has nothing to do with economic recovery after a severe recession. economies naturally rebound on their own. The 2009-2015 years were not Obama's, and he cannot take the credit. The first year that really can be attributed ti Obama is 2016, which was a continual decline.

You are an idiot if you fall for the liberal media BS, and think this historic expansion did NOT start with the inauguration of the President Trump.

And your claim that Trump has no "single year of GDP rise above 3.0%" is not exactly accurate.

From the second quarter of 2018, through the second quarter of 2019, Trump's GDP averages out to 3.2 %​

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Toddsterpatriot, post: 22184713,

Really? Who had a weaker recovery than Obama? Link?

Which Post WWII president had to recover from a recession as bad as the Great Bush Recession of 2008?

Tell us.

So what recovery are you comparing Obama’s. recovery to?

How can you call Obama’s recovery weak since TrumpO has not grown the economy during either of his two full years any more than two of Obama’s Best years.

Which Post WWII president had to recover from a recession as bad as the Great Bush Recession of 2008?

It was horrible! Obama had to suffer thru 5 months of a recession.....how did he survive? DURR

 

[NotfooledbyW]

I asked: So what recovery are you comparing Obama’s. recovery to?

WTH_Progs?, post: 22645554,

Couldn't tell you.

Then how in the hell does ToddsP claim it was the weakest recovery since WWII?

You can call it weak all you want which means nothing coming from a partisan hack, but admitting there has been no comparative research to previous presidents during post recession economies makes the “weakest since WWII “ claim a fiat out lie.

Thanks for admitting it.,



I asked: How can you call Obama’s recovery weak.

WTH_Progs?, post: 22645554,

It was slow going, topsy turby. Recovery was slowed by things like Obamacare.

Of course it was slow going but all long term positive trends were steady for seven years.

About Obamacare slowing the recovery?

You fling shit on the wall and hope some of it sticks.

• Goldman Sachs' analysis found that the nationwide 5.4 percentage point increase in the number of insured people since 2012 "could explain roughly 40 percent of health-care job growth, or 500,000 additional jobs in the sector over that period." That projection is based on an estimate that every 1 percentage-point increase in insurance coverage is associated with a 0.6 percent rise in health-care employment and health-care.500,000 jobs added to health-care sector under Obamacare, Goldman Sachs estimates

Why do you think you can get away with lying and making shit up whenever you mention Obama?

 

[NotfooledbyW]

I asked Which Post WWII president had to recover from a recession as bad as the Great Bush Recession of 2008?


Toddsterpatriot, post: 22645684

. It was horrible! Obama had to suffer thru 5 months of a recession.....how did he survive? DURR

You said Obama’s recovery was the weakest since WWII.

You need to have some precedent to make a claim about “weakest”

You have nothing - I understand. You lied. You had no basis other to put that out there for other stupid people to believe.

 

[WTH_Progs?]

I asked: So what recovery are you comparing Obama’s. recovery to?

WTH_Progs?, post: 22645554,

Couldn't tell you.

Then how in the hell does ToddsP claim it was the weakest recovery since WWII?

You can call it weak all you want which means nothing coming from a partisan hack, but admitting there has been no comparative research to previous presidents during post recession economies makes the “weakest since WWII “ claim a fiat out lie.

Thanks for admitting it.,



I asked: How can you call Obama’s recovery weak.

WTH_Progs?, post: 22645554,

It was slow going, topsy turby. Recovery was slowed by things like Obamacare.

Of course it was slow going but all long term positive trends were steady for seven years.

About Obamacare slowing the recovery?

You fling shit on the wall and hope some of it sticks.

• Goldman Sachs' analysis found that the nationwide 5.4 percentage point increase in the number of insured people since 2012 "could explain roughly 40 percent of health-care job growth, or 500,000 additional jobs in the sector over that period." That projection is based on an estimate that every 1 percentage-point increase in insurance coverage is associated with a 0.6 percent rise in health-care employment and health-care.500,000 jobs added to health-care sector under Obamacare, Goldman Sachs estimates

Why do you think you can get away with lying and making shit up whenever you mention Obama?

Ha ha ha ha ha..........So a 40 percent job growth in healthcare makes up for stagnation in other sectors you failed to mention? Including cutting people's hours, high increases in costs to many consumers and higher taxes. And I'm the fucking liar? Fuck off already.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

WTH_Progs?, post: 22645887B

.....So a 40 percent job growth in healthcare makes up for stagnation in other sectors you failed to mention?

You lied when you declared that the ACA slowed the economy. I didn’t fail to mention anything.

You lied about the negative impact the ACA had on the recovery.

It had a positive impact. I like to straighten liars out with facts.

Your response shows how ignorant and baseless your rants are.

Since the ACA created half a million health sector jobs while stagnation in other sectors continued to exist as a result of the massive Great Bush Recession, then those who got those jobs as a result of the ACA had money to spend. Many health care jobs are higher paying.

So you ignorant TrumpO twit. Anything that increases consumer spending benefits other sectors as well.

Yet you lied that the ACA slowed the economy.

WTH idiot?

 

[Dragonlady]

How can you call Obama’s recovery weak since TrumpO has not grown the economy during either of his two full years any more than two of Obama’s Best years.

Wow.You must have been watching a lot of CNN/MSNBC. Couldn't be farther out in space on this. This is the greatest and longest economic expansion in USA history.

Yes it is, and it is Obama's greatest achievement. Trump has ridden Obama's coattails for two years, and was only able to keep it going with massive tax cuts and the largest deficits in history. What happens when the inevitably economy contraction hits? He can't cut taxes or increase spending as a stimulus?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Yes and about seven of the ten year expansion was Obama’s.

Thank you. I have been making that point for months.

You are an idiot if you think this historic expansion started with the inauguration of the Great White MAGA Hope.

TrumpO is the second president in this historic. ten year expansion not to have a single year of GDP rise above 3.0%.

FALSE! POTUS has nothing to do with economic recovery after a severe recession. economies naturally rebound on their own. The 2009-2015 years were not Obama's, and he cannot take the credit. The first year that really can be attributed ti Obama is 2016, which was a continual decline.

You are an idiot if you fall for the liberal media BS, and think this historic expansion did NOT start with the inauguration of the President Trump.

And your claim that Trump has no "single year of GDP rise above 3.0%" is not exactly accurate.

From the second quarter of 2018, through the second quarter of 2019, Trump's GDP averages out to 3.2 %​

Then the claim about Obama not having a year above 3% is equally false as he had 12 months that came out to above 3% twice.

But we do not measure GDP growth that way.

 

[Dragonlady]

I asked: So what recovery are you comparing Obama’s. recovery to?

WTH_Progs?, post: 22645554,

Couldn't tell you.

Then how in the hell does ToddsP claim it was the weakest recovery since WWII?

You can call it weak all you want which means nothing coming from a partisan hack, but admitting there has been no comparative research to previous presidents during post recession economies makes the “weakest since WWII “ claim a fiat out lie.

Thanks for admitting it.,



I asked: How can you call Obama’s recovery weak.

WTH_Progs?, post: 22645554,

It was slow going, topsy turby. Recovery was slowed by things like Obamacare.

Of course it was slow going but all long term positive trends were steady for seven years.

About Obamacare slowing the recovery?

You fling shit on the wall and hope some of it sticks.

• Goldman Sachs' analysis found that the nationwide 5.4 percentage point increase in the number of insured people since 2012 "could explain roughly 40 percent of health-care job growth, or 500,000 additional jobs in the sector over that period." That projection is based on an estimate that every 1 percentage-point increase in insurance coverage is associated with a 0.6 percent rise in health-care employment and health-care.500,000 jobs added to health-care sector under Obamacare, Goldman Sachs estimates

Why do you think you can get away with lying and making shit up whenever you mention Obama?

Ha ha ha ha ha..........So a 40 percent job growth in healthcare makes up for stagnation in other sectors you failed to mention? Including cutting people's hours, high increases in costs to many consumers and higher taxes. And I'm the fucking liar? Fuck off already.

Try dealing with reality:

Dispelling Eight Myths on ObamaCare’s Eighth Anniversary

 

[Pilot1]

Obama had the Fed drop rates to ZERO. Even with that he still had an ANEMIC 1.6% GDP growth over his eight year reign of terror.

With Trump we see what an economy can do with lower taxes, lower energy prices, and less regulation. Even with the Fed raising interest rates FOUR TIMES since his election. So while Obama got easing from the Fed, Trump has gotten tightening, and still is kicking ass!

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I asked Which Post WWII president had to recover from a recession as bad as the Great Bush Recession of 2008?


Toddsterpatriot, post: 22645684

. It was horrible! Obama had to suffer thru 5 months of a recession.....how did he survive? DURR

You said Obama’s recovery was the weakest since WWII.

You need to have some precedent to make a claim about “weakest”

You have nothing - I understand. You lied. You had no basis other to put that out there for other stupid people to believe.

You said Obama’s recovery was the weakest since WWII.

Only because it's the truth.

You need to have some precedent to make a claim about “weakest”

You'd have to look at all the other recoveries since WWII. I understand your reluctance.

 

[DBA]

Obama had the Fed drop rates to ZERO. Even with that he still had an ANEMIC 1.6% GDP growth over his eight year reign of terror.

With Trump we see what an economy can do with lower taxes, lower energy prices, and less regulation. Even with the Fed raising interest rates FOUR TIMES since his election. So while Obama got easing from the Fed, Trump has gotten tightening, and still is kicking ass!

Don't confuse them with facts. The Fed helped Obama's economy stay afloat while it has done everything to pull down the Trump economy. Just imagine if the Fed gave Trump the pass they gave Obama. My only hope is that intelligent Americans understand this and vote for Trump in 2020. Sheep will be sheep...can't fix them.

 

[Dragonlady]

Obama had the Fed drop rates to ZERO. Even with that he still had an ANEMIC 1.6% GDP growth over his eight year reign of terror.

With Trump we see what an economy can do with lower taxes, lower energy prices, and less regulation. Even with the Fed raising interest rates FOUR TIMES since his election. So while Obama got easing from the Fed, Trump has gotten tightening, and still is kicking ass!

BUSH cut the fed to zero.

Fed Cuts Rates Near Zero to Battle Slump

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Obama had the Fed drop rates to ZERO. Even with that he still had an ANEMIC 1.6% GDP growth over his eight year reign of terror.

With Trump we see what an economy can do with lower taxes, lower energy prices, and less regulation. Even with the Fed raising interest rates FOUR TIMES since his election. So while Obama got easing from the Fed, Trump has gotten tightening, and still is kicking ass!

BUSH cut the fed to zero.

Fed Cuts Rates Near Zero to Battle Slump

And Obama's economy was so shaky, they kept rates there for 7 years.

 

[Pilot1]

Obama had the Fed drop rates to ZERO. Even with that he still had an ANEMIC 1.6% GDP growth over his eight year reign of terror.

With Trump we see what an economy can do with lower taxes, lower energy prices, and less regulation. Even with the Fed raising interest rates FOUR TIMES since his election. So while Obama got easing from the Fed, Trump has gotten tightening, and still is kicking ass!

Don't confuse them with facts. The Fed helped Obama's economy stay afloat while it has done everything to pull down the Trump economy. Just imagine if the Fed gave Trump the pass they gave Obama. My only hope is that intelligent Americans understand this and vote for Trump in 2020. Sheep will be sheep...can't fix them.

The Feds policy MOSTLY DURING OBAMA, not Bush, was Quantitative Easing over his entire two terms. You are correct in that Trump has had to fight the Fed since the beginning as his good economy has given them ammunition to raise rates and TIGHTEN so far during his term, yet the stock markets continue to rise. This is opposite to what normally happens when the Fed raises rates.

 

[Markle]

Which Post WWII president had to recover from a recession as bad as the Great Bush Recession of 2008?

Tell us.

So what recovery are you comparing Obama’s. recovery to?

How can you call Obama’s recovery weak since TrumpO has not grown the economy during either of his two full years any more than two of Obama’s Best years.

Simple, the malaise of failed former President Jimmy Carter.

 

[protectionist]

Yes it is, and it is Obama's greatest achievement. Trump has ridden Obama's coattails for two years, and was only able to keep it going with massive tax cuts and the largest deficits in history. What happens when the inevitably economy contraction hits? He can't cut taxes or increase spending as a stimulus?

FALSE! Obama has nothing to do with it. His first 7 years were natural recoil from a bad recession. His last year was continual falling GDP.

Trump reversed the Obama 2016 free fall, and brought GDP up to 4.2%.

 

[protectionist]

Then the claim about Obama not having a year above 3% is equally false as he had 12 months that came out to above 3% twice.

But we do not measure GDP growth that way.

One can measure it however one sees fit.