Qanon shaman...likely to get a new trial considering the government withheld video evidence from the defense....

[Meister]

I think a lot of these court decisions could be overturned with what has come to light.

Glad the Kangaroo Kourt has been exposed.

 

[2aguy]

Except the evidence isn't exculpatory.

The only evidence was that of the Capitol Police respecting his white privilege.

Because you know if he was a brother, they'd have pinned him to the floor five feet in.

Instead, they tried to reason with someone who was pretty clearly emotionally disturbed.

He was trespassing in the capitol and committed vandalism.

Doesn't matter......they had a legal duty to give that evidence to the defence and they held it back..........

 

[2aguy]

That makes absolutely no sense. He had already committed his crime simply by being one of the rioters who broke into the Capitol. The defense noted that Chansley was pleasant with the officers in the Capitol and this was not disputed. It was also not disputed that he did not comply with the officer's orders to leave the building.

The prosecution never claimed he was violent with officers.

Your "if" statements are bizarre and irrelevant.

Doesn't matter......they were supposed to give over all of the evidence and they held it back.....A Brady violation.

 

[Marener]

Doesn't matter......they were supposed to give over all of the evidence and they held it back.....A Brady violation.

To be a Brady violation it has to be potentially exculpatory.

 

[BackAgain]

How do any of these new videos weigh on the offense to which Chansley pleaded...

Surprisingly, that’s a more intelligent question from you than your posting history would suggest you have any capacity for. Congratulations.

But let’s flip your question around as the first step in the process of analyzing it.

The better question would be: how do the newly released videos of Shaman-boi demonstrate any crime for which he was charged? Well, it shows that he was inside the Capitol building. It alone doesn’t constitute proof of trespass, but it is still good evidence to consider such charge.

What else was he CHARGED with.

Well, the preliminary arrest charges:

Upon his arrest on Saturday, Chansley was charged with knowingly entering or remaining in any restricted building or grounds without lawful authority, and with violent entry and disorderly conduct on Capitol grounds.

Jacob Anthony Chansley arrested: Jake Angeli Qanon Shaman charged

Jacob Anthony Chansley arrested: Jake Angeli aka Qanon Shaman charged with violent entry and disorderly conduct. Claims did nothing wrong.

scallywagandvagabond.com

Ultimately, he got indicted on:

MAGISTRATE NO. 21-MJ-018
VIOLATIONS:
18 U.S.C. § 231(a)(3)
(Civil Disorder)
18 U.S.C. § 1512{c)(2)
{Obstruction of an Official Proceeding) 18 U.S.C. § l 752(a)(l)
(Entering and Remaining in a Restricted Building)
18 U.S.C. § 1752(a)(2)
(Disorderly and Disruptive Conduct in a Restricted Building)
40 U.S.C. § 5104(e){2){A)
(Violent Entry and Disorderly Conduct in a Capitol Building)
40 U.S.C. § 5104(e)(2)(G)
(Parading, Demonstrating, or Picketing in a Capitol Building)

How the fuck could he have entered violently yet been casually escorted around the Capitol building BY the Capitol Police without them arresting his ass?

Can see the trespass if he wasn’t one of the ones cops didn’t allow in. And we saw evidence of police permitting protestors into the Capitol grounds. Was he allowed in or is there any evidence that he forced his way in? Others clearly did. But did he?

 

[progressive hunter]

 

[Faun]

He admitted to a crime so he could get less time from the evil in power. Concentration camps are coming here at some point.

His crime was being in the Capitol which contributed to Congress needing to be evacuated.

He pleaded guilty because he was and there was plenty of video showing him inside the Capitol. Carlson showing even more video of him inside the Capitol isn't exculpatory... it's more evidence of him committing the crime for which he was charged & convicted.

 

[BackAgain]

Doesn't matter......they were supposed to give over all of the evidence and they held it back.....A Brady violation.

Not necessarily all evidence. But the Brady rule requires that the government turn over all exculpatory evidence. The meat of the discussion is going to be whether the evidence was exculpatory. (There are other tests, but that is the heart of it. Plus, the defendant’s attorney certainly specifically requested all videos.)

 

[Faun]

It doesn't matter. He was entitled to them and was denied. That alone can get him a new trial.

Which could backfire & result in a harsher sentence.

 

[The5thHorseman]

Surprisingly, that’s a more intelligent question from you than your posting history would suggest you have any capacity for. Congratulations.

But let’s flip your question around as the first step in the process of analyzing it.

The better question would be: how do the newly released videos of Shaman-boi demonstrate any crime for which he was charged? Well, it shows that he was inside the Capitol building. It alone doesn’t constitute proof of trespass, but it is still good evidence to consider such charge.

What else was he CHARGED with.

Well, the preliminary arrest charges:

Jacob Anthony Chansley arrested: Jake Angeli Qanon Shaman charged

Jacob Anthony Chansley arrested: Jake Angeli aka Qanon Shaman charged with violent entry and disorderly conduct. Claims did nothing wrong.

scallywagandvagabond.com

Ultimately, he got indicted on:

MAGISTRATE NO. 21-MJ-018
VIOLATIONS:
18 U.S.C. § 231(a)(3)
(Civil Disorder)
18 U.S.C. § 1512{c)(2)
{Obstruction of an Official Proceeding) 18 U.S.C. § l 752(a)(l)
(Entering and Remaining in a Restricted Building)
18 U.S.C. § 1752(a)(2)
(Disorderly and Disruptive Conduct in a Restricted Building)
40 U.S.C. § 5104(e){2){A)
(Violent Entry and Disorderly Conduct in a Capitol Building)
40 U.S.C. § 5104(e)(2)(G)
(Parading, Demonstrating, or Picketing in a Capitol Building)

How the fuck could he have entered violently yet been casually escorted around the Capitol building BY the Capitol Police without them arresting his ass?

Can see the trespass if he wasn’t one of the ones cops didn’t allow in. And we saw evidence of police permitting protestors into the Capitol grounds. Was he allowed in or is there any evidence that he forced his way in? Others clearly did. But did he?

Surprisingly, that’s a more intelligent question from you than your posting history would suggest you have any capacity for. Congratulations

Let's be clear about the fact that your record sucks, mine doesn't.

'k?

But let’s flip your question around as the first step in the process of analyzing it

You gotta be kidding me.

 

[2aguy]

1) Unless Watkins is incompetent, he would have asked his client for a detailed narrative of what transpired.

2) The judge SPECIFICALLY noted that Chansley had not been violent when passing sentence.

3) The "new evidence" proves he was in the Capitol, doing as the charge to which he pleaded describes.

And that has no bearing on the prosecutions failure to give that video to the defense........

 

[martybegan]

This isn't justification, these are facts.

The video isn't exculpatory and none of you morons can explain how it is. You are just mindlessly dedicated to your bullshit narrative.

It is exculpatory, and your fetish for detaining your fellow citizens simply for not agreeing with you politically is a pox on this world.

Now go pretend anti-fa doesn't exist.

 

[martybegan]

Saying it's exculpatory doesn't make it exculpatory.

The fact is that Chansley was one of the first people to flood into the Capitol as the doors were broken down. He did it to disrupt the Congressional proceedings.

These are facts. The video doesn't change that.

Pretending it isn't makes you an SJW hack who probably pees while sitting down.

 

[martybegan]

It's not about me, Marty.

Keep saying that, poseur.

 

[Marener]

It is exculpatory, and your fetish for detaining your fellow citizens simply for not agreeing with you politically is a pox on this world.

Now go pretend anti-fa doesn't exist.

Still not explaining how it’s exculpatory.

He’s in jail because he committed a crime that has nothing to do with whether or not he agrees with me.

 

[Faun]

It's exculpatory if the prosecution used a video of him doing one thing, said that's all he did in there, and used it to get him to plea out. It's exculpatory if the judge used presented video of him doing one thing, and made that part of the sentencing time, as if he was only doing that one thing. The video's withheld showed him doing another thing, which was never given to the defense, which could prove he wasnt ALWAYS doing the one thing.


The thing in this case is his interactions with the police and his general demeanor.

All the prosecution said he did was to be inside the Capitol, illegally disrupting Congress. Anything you think they said beyond that is your own overactive imagination kicking in.

 

[The5thHorseman]

Keep saying that, poseur.

If you insist, Marty...

 

[martybegan]

Still not explaining how it’s exculpatory.

He’s in jail because he committed a crime that has nothing to do with whether or not he agrees with me.

He's in jail because he pled to a lesser crime, the greater crime probably involving circumstances of violent behavior, which this new video clearly shows wasn't happening.

That's the possible exculpatory evidence.

 

[martybegan]

All the prosecution said he did was to be inside the Capitol, illegally disrupting Congress. Anything you think they said beyond that is your own overactive imagination kicking in.

That's what he pled to, not what they were threatening him with if he didn't plea.

 

[martybegan]

If you insist, Marty...

Just keep upping my post count, oxygen thief.