Raising A Society of Fascists

[Wry Catcher]

So it looks like the Socialists won in the historic struggle of semantics.

Not semantics, douchebag.

Hitler's National Socialists were brutal, racist, insular, conquering dirtbags.

Fascists weren't racists. Mussolini was an Empire-Builder but Italians forgot how to fight 1,500 years ago.

Franco was neither a racist nor an Empire Builder.

And you're just a moron

I'm sorry fuck wad, but I must disagree. Your alleged argument is entirely semantic. As if the word "socialist" had anything to do with Nazi philosophy. Feel free to elaborate about Hitler's writing's and speeches promoting communist ideals.

The Nazis despised liberals. Edgetho despises liberals.

Therefore, Edgetho is a Nazi

 

[PoliticalChic]

In the book, “As We Go Marching,” by John T. Flynn, he provided an amazing prescience:

1. "Fascism will come at the hands of perfectly authentic Americans, as violently against Hitler and Mussolini as the next one, but who are convinced that the present economic system is washed up and that the present political system in America has outlived its usefulness and who wish to commit this country to the rule of the bureaucratic state; interfering in the affairs of the states and cities; taking part in the management of industry and finance and agriculture; assuming the role of great national banker and investor, borrowing billions every year and spending them on all sorts of projects through which such a government can paralyze opposition and command public support; marshaling great armies and navies at crushing costs to support the industry of war and preparation for war which will become our greatest industry; and adding to all this the most romantic adventures in global planning, regeneration, and domination all to be done under the authority of a powerfully centralized government in which the executive will hold in effect all the powers with Congress reduced to the role of a debating society. There is your fascist. And the sooner America realizes this dreadful fact the sooner it will arm itself to make an end of American fascism masquerading under the guise of the champion of democracy."

"....a powerfully centralized government in which the executive will hold in effect all the powers with Congress reduced to the role of a debating society."

Jeezzzz.....the only way he could be more accurate would be to have included the name 'Obama.'

BTW, Flynn wrote this in 1944.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Yup, you are confirming my point.

Tell me, if your agenda ever takes power, will you continue to protect your opponents' right to publish and disseminate their views?

I bet you would block it because you would say that it was provoking "imminent, lawless action."

More projection from Fakey..............

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

In the book, “As We Go Marching,” by John T. Flynn, he provided an amazing prescience:

1. "Fascism will come at the hands of perfectly authentic Americans, as violently against Hitler and Mussolini as the next one, but who are convinced that the present economic system is washed up and that the present political system in America has outlived its usefulness and who wish to commit this country to the rule of the bureaucratic state; interfering in the affairs of the states and cities; taking part in the management of industry and finance and agriculture; assuming the role of great national banker and investor, borrowing billions every year and spending them on all sorts of projects through which such a government can paralyze opposition and command public support; marshaling great armies and navies at crushing costs to support the industry of war and preparation for war which will become our greatest industry; and adding to all this the most romantic adventures in global planning, regeneration, and domination all to be done under the authority of a powerfully centralized government in which the executive will hold in effect all the powers with Congress reduced to the role of a debating society. There is your fascist. And the sooner America realizes this dreadful fact the sooner it will arm itself to make an end of American fascism masquerading under the guise of the champion of democracy."

"....a powerfully centralized government in which the executive will hold in effect all the powers with Congress reduced to the role of a debating society."

Jeezzzz.....the only way he could be more accurate would be to have included the name 'Obama.'

BTW, Flynn wrote this in 1944.

GOOSE BUMPS! ​

 

[BlindBoo]

How about the EPA,

1970 was a year of tremendous environmental action by Nixon and Congress.The President signed the National Environmental Policy Act on January 2nd, delivered a call to make "the 1970s a historic period when, by conscious choice, [we] transform our land into what we want it to become" in his State of the Union Address, and ended the year with the creation of an independent agency to regulate the environment.

It's almost impossible to imagine such strong bipartisan support for environmental legislation these days, but politicians of all stripes were responding to real and serious problems in the country's towns, suburbs, and wilderness areas.

Gallery Why Nixon Created the EPA The Atlantic

 

[JakeStarkey]

Yup, you are confirming my point.

Tell me, if your agenda ever takes power, will you continue to protect your opponents' right to publish and disseminate their views?

I bet you would block it because you would say that it was provoking "imminent, lawless action."

More projection from Fakey..............

Yup, the far right is admitting it would crush their opponents' free speech.

 

[JakeStarkey]

And the John Birch Society goes happily along.

The members never learn anything.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Sorry, but Boren was totally within school regulations and the law to expel those two idiot racist students. It is pathetic that anyone would sing such a song in 2015. I hope more of the students who were involved in that song get expelled.

If I were black and saw a video of a bunch of white students laughingly singing about lynching people of my race, I would not only be outraged, but in the back of my mind I would wonder just how safe I would be on that campus.

Right....I'm certain that you are more of an law expert than Eugene Volokh .... law professor, the Gary T. Schwartz Professor of Law at the UCLA School of Law.


"First, racist speech is constitutionally protected, just as is expression of other contemptible ideas; and universities may not discipline students based on their speech. That has been the unanimous view of courts that have considered campus speech codes and other campus speech restrictions — see here for some citations. The same, of course, is true for fraternity speech, racist or otherwise; see Iota Xi Chapter of Sigma Chi Fraternity v. George Mason University (4th Cir. 1993)."
Oklahoma University s Expulsion Of Racist Students Sets A Dangerous Precedent



So....within the context of this thread, that post identifies you as a fascist.

Consider,
FACTS AND CASE SUMMARY: MORSE V. FREDERICK, below:


Facts and Case Summary Morse v. Frederick

 

[Liminal]

Look at this shit, all those posts for nothing. As if anyone actually has a hard time understanding the Nazi philosophy. No serious person would characterize Nazis as anything but right wing reactionaries.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Only the far right reactionaries

 

[NYcarbineer]

Should Liberalsism/Progressivism continue in the ascendancy, American will be fascist, as it was when Progressive Woodrow Wilson was President.


Hyperbole?

Only to a slight degree....'fascism' in America looks different than the long black coated Gestapo of Nazi Germany because it has been altered by the history of America.


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The Gestapo was only slightly worse than America is today.

Good one.

It doesn't say that, does it, you liar.

You are so full of it. You say that it is only slightly 'hyperbole' to say that American is fascist. It just 'looks' different than the Gestapo.

You're a liar.
That;s why you cut off the rest of it:

Hyperbole?

Only to a slight degree....'fascism' in America looks different than the long black coated Gestapo of Nazi Germany because it has been altered by the history of America.


" The excesses of the European versions of fascism were mitigated [in America] by the specific history and culture of America, Jeffersonian individualism, heterogeneity of the population, but the central theme is still an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life., albeit at the loss of what had hitherfore been accepted as ‘inalienable human rights.’

[The loss of liberty....as in free speech.]

The dichotomy that is today’s political reality is based on this retreat, as the American left simply flipped from the brown-shirt utopians to the red-flag utopians, parroting Stalin’s rhetoric: anything objectionable is fascist."
"Liberal Fascism," Goldberg

You need to realize that as a political minority, you conservatives have to accept the fact that just because most Americans don't agree with you,

it doesn't mean the nation has gone fascist, or communist, or Nazi, or any other bad guy name you can dredge up...

...it just means that more voters disagree with you than agree with you. It just means that you, as conservatives, embrace a set of political positions that do not have majority (or plurality) support in this country.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Yup, you are confirming my point.

Tell me, if your agenda ever takes power, will you continue to protect your opponents' right to publish and disseminate their views?

I bet you would block it because you would say that it was provoking "imminent, lawless action."

More projection from Fakey..............

Yup, the far right is admitting it would crush their opponents' free speech.

No, Fakey...you are projection-flailing again!

 

[JakeStarkey]

Yup, you are confirming my point.

Tell me, if your agenda ever takes power, will you continue to protect your opponents' right to publish and disseminate their views?

I bet you would block it because you would say that it was provoking "imminent, lawless action."

More projection from Fakey..............

Yup, the far right is admitting it would crush their opponents' free speech.

No, Fakey...you are projection-flailing again!

Of course you would.

 

[Mustang]

Should Liberalsism/Progressivism continue in the ascendancy, American will be fascist, as it was when Progressive Woodrow Wilson was President.


Hyperbole?

Only to a slight degree....'fascism' in America looks different than the long black coated Gestapo of Nazi Germany because it has been altered by the history of America.


" The excesses of the European versions of fascism were mitigated [in America] by the specific history and culture of America, Jeffersonian individualism, heterogeneity of the population, but the central theme is still an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life., albeit at the loss of what had hitherfore been accepted as ‘inalienable human rights.’

[The loss of liberty....as in free speech.]

The dichotomy that is today’s political reality is based on this retreat, as the American left simply flipped from the brown-shirt utopians to the red-flag utopians, parroting Stalin’s rhetoric: anything objectionable is fascist."
"Liberal Fascism," Goldberg




Say anything out of sync with the milieu and the fascists of today call it 'fascistic' and claim the right to silence it.


For a limited, but salient, definition of 'fascist,' let's focus on the shutting down and punishing those who say things one doesn't agree with. In America today, fascism is known as 'political correctness',,,,and it is not merely a suggestion.
So saith the Liberals/Progressives/Democrats.





Seems the recent Oklahoma State kerfuffle had drawn a clear line between those who honor the Constitution, specifically the first amendment, and those who honor 'political correctness,' the contemporary fascists.



1. "....University of Oklahoma President David Boren chose to expel two students for singing a vile, racist ditty at a fraternity event. There is nothing funny about lyrics that make light of lynching and chant a racial slur.


2. .... Boren was wrong to act as he did. As UCLA law Professor Eugene Volokh wrote, “racist speech is constitutionally protected, just as is expression of other contemptible ideas; and universities may not discipline students based on their speech.” Courts have consistently ruled to that effect.
A free country doesn’t want the government to educate only people with approved viewpoints..... Boren’s move appears to be wildly popular in academia.'"


a. "Boren wrote to the two frat boys that he was expelling them because of their “leadership role in leading a racist and exclusionary chant which has created a hostile educational environment for others.”
I pledge allegiance to the First Amendment - SFGate



So the latest amendment to the 'living Constitution' of the LIberals is 'never offend.'

Conservatives accusing liberals of fascism is akin to Xaviera Hollander accusing Ariana Grande of being a woman of loose morals.

 

[bripat9643]

How about the EPA,

1970 was a year of tremendous environmental action by Nixon and Congress.The President signed the National Environmental Policy Act on January 2nd, delivered a call to make "the 1970s a historic period when, by conscious choice, [we] transform our land into what we want it to become" in his State of the Union Address, and ended the year with the creation of an independent agency to regulate the environment.

It's almost impossible to imagine such strong bipartisan support for environmental legislation these days, but politicians of all stripes were responding to real and serious problems in the country's towns, suburbs, and wilderness areas.

Gallery Why Nixon Created the EPA The Atlantic

How does that prove the EPA doesn't control Americans?

 

[bripat9643]

Look at this shit, all those posts for nothing. As if anyone actually has a hard time understanding the Nazi philosophy. No serious person would characterize Nazis as anything but right wing reactionaries.

Many very serious people have characterized Nazis as leftwingers. These people are called economists, as opposed to the boobs who call Nazis rightwingers. Those people are called lying demogogues.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

"Sorry but liberals are not fascist."

True.

But the OP is a liar.

 

[bripat9643]

"Sorry but liberals are not fascist."

True.

But the OP is a liar.

Liberalism is indistinguishable from fascism. True fact.

 

[Agit8r]

a. "Boren wrote to the two frat boys that he was expelling them because of their “leadership role in leading a racist and exclusionary chant which has created a hostile educational environment for others.”
I pledge allegiance to the First Amendment - SFGate

Free speech is not the same as consequence-free speech Worthless racists have to follow the same code of conduct as anyone else.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

"Sorry but liberals are not fascist."

True.

But the OP is a liar.

Liberalism is indistinguishable from fascism. True fact.

At least you're consistent at being ignorant and ridiculous.

And speaking of ignorant and ridiculous, the OP and others on the right once again exhibit their ignorance of the law, where free speech applies solely to the relationship between government and those governed, not between or among private persons or private organizations.

That racism is denounced in the context of private society is not to deny racists their 'right' to free speech, nor does it constitute 'fascism.'