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So you try to deny the truth of god's holy inspired(god breathed) word??? ==not smart!!! Think!
some people dont know the truth of it. Do you really think God is going to hold those who don't know the Bible is true to the same standard as those who know it's true and pretend to be holy while ignoring what it says?
Also, one can disagree with your interpretation of the Word of God without disagreeing with the Word of God.
I agree with you, and I will submit my response in two parts:
First:
I have studied the Bible for over 60 years and I find it to be somewhat confusing, so much so that Christians themselves passionately disagree on what the Bible says. Some Christians believe that justification is by faith alone and that good works are irrelevant; however, other Christians believe that salvation is through works, and faith without works is dead. Some Christians believe in the doctrine of "once saved always saved" whereby one cannot lose salvation after accepting Christ; however, other Christians believe that those who continue in sin after knowing of Christ are to be treated as an infidel or worse. Some Christians believe in a pre-tribulation rapture but others say the Book of Revelation precludes such an event.
Further, some Christians believe that Jesus is merely the Son of God, the Father being greater than the Son; however others believe that He is a co-equal part of a Divine Trinity, while still others believe He is God Himself. Some Christians believe that hell is a place where non-believers suffer eternal torment in burning flames; however, other Christians believe the souls of those of those who did not accept Christ are killed in the fire, while still others proclaim hell is not a place of cruel punishment but rather a place where non-believers are permanently separated from the presence God. There are many other theological disputes among Christians, yet all parties to such disputes point to verses in the Bible to prove their point. One thing is certain: although Christians hold different and contradictory beliefs, they are equally sincere in their own beliefs. Disagreements on various theological points does not make anyone either a stronger or weaker Christian than the rest.
SECOND:
I have always maintained that if there is a judging God, He will not judge us by what we believe but rather how we live our lives in accordance with those beliefs. I am convinced that is what a fair and just God would do. The Bible provides different punishment for those who sin in ignorance and those who sin deliberately. A person who sinned in ignorance was simply required to bring a sin offering to the priest once the nature of his sin become known. However, those who sinned knowingly and defiantly were not forgiven with a sin offering; instead, they had to bear the full consequences for their iniquity. The following passages are from the KJV:
And if any one of the common people sin through ignorance, while he doeth somewhat against any of the commandments of the LORD concerning things which ought not to be done, and be guilty; Or if his sin, which he hath sinned, come to his knowledge: then he shall bring his offering, a kid of the goats, a female without blemish, for his sin which he hath sinned. .And he shall take away all the fat thereof, as the fat of the lamb is taken away from the sacrifice of the peace offerings; and the priest shall burn them upon the altar, according to the offerings made by fire unto the LORD: and the priest shall make an atonement for his sin that he hath committed, and it shall be forgiven him" (Leviticus 4:27, 28, 35).
And if any soul sin through ignorance, then he shall bring a she goat of the first year for a sin offering. And the priest shall make an atonement for the soul that sinneth ignorantly, when he sinneth by ignorance before the LORD, to make an atonement for him; and it shall be forgiven him. Ye shall have one law for him that sinneth through ignorance, both for him that is born among the children of Israel, and for the stranger that sojourneth among them. But the soul that doeth ought presumptuously [knowingly and defiantly], whether he be born in the land, or a stranger, the same reproacheth the LORD; and that soul shall be cut off from among his people. Because he hath despised the word of the LORD, and hath broken his commandment, that soul shall utterly be cut off; his iniquity shall be upon him (Numbers 15:27-31, explanatory insertion my own).
However, there is an even better example of God's tolerance of sins committed in ignorance. The greatest sin of all would certainly be the brutal murder of the very innocent Son of God. Yet, those who crucified Christ were forgiven because they were unaware of what they were doing. According to the Bible, Jesus Himself absolved them of any wrongdoing:
And when they were come to the place, which is called Calvary, there they crucified him, and the malefactors, one on the right hand, and the other on the left. Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots (Luke 23:33-34, highlights my own).
Of course, all of this is just my own humble opinion.
stop lying.
you hate Catholics and by proxy the Orthodox and you spread the lies about them so you feel justified in your hatred.
Partial preterism is what the Church Fathers professed and I do trust those much more than some XIX or XVI century loons which declared that they know it better for their personal benefit, to start with.
You can believe whatever you want - i, personally, do not care.
Just do not pretend it is the only possible way.
and the rapture is simply laughable.
as is the LITERAL reading of the Bible and interpretation as you personally feel like it.
they do not.
What Bible did they have for 1500 years that they could read if that was a lie?
the same they have now and had all 2000 years.
where do you get these conspiracy idiocy about forbidding to read the Bible?
Looks like it is YOU who have not read it. as I proved you with the reference to the New Testament.
and you clearly lose the dispute as you reference to the pedophile scandals.
BTW the pedophile priests are in your Protestant churches as well - and absolutely not less than anywhere else. maybe even more as nobody is being defrocked and some denominations are even making openly gay men their priests.
So take a log form your own eye first
WHY BE LEFT BEHIND ON THE VERY NEAR RAPTURE DAY? WHY NOT BE CAUGHT UP WITH BELIEVERS? CHOOSE TO BELIEVE,ACCEPT JESUS AS YOUR LORD AND SAVIOR,CONFESS AND REPENT OF YOUR SIN AND GOD WILL FORGIVE YOU AND CLEANSE YOU AND YOU JOIN THE ETERNAL FAMILY OF GOD. THERE IS NOP DOWNSIDE TO LIVING LIFE AS A son OF ALMIGHTY GOD!!! PTL.
After rapture day and you are left behind will you believe then??? Will you remember this post on that day??? Millions of believers will have vanished,what will you think??? What will you say??? What will you do???? Your only chance is to call out to god! Repent and confess your sins,accept jesus as your lord and savior though after the rapture the anti-christ will try to hunt you down and kill you!!! Why not wise up and be saved now????
WHY BE LEFT BEHIND ON THE VERY NEAR RAPTURE DAY? WHY NOT BE CAUGHT UP WITH BELIEVERS? CHOOSE TO BELIEVE,ACCEPT JESUS AS YOUR LORD AND SAVIOR,CONFESS AND REPENT OF YOUR SIN AND GOD WILL FORGIVE YOU AND CLEANSE YOU AND YOU JOIN THE ETERNAL FAMILY OF GOD. THERE IS NOP DOWNSIDE TO LIVING LIFE AS A son OF ALMIGHTY GOD!!! PTL.
No need to worry about being left behind. There is no rapture as is commonly taught among certain protestants.
After rapture day and you are left behind will you believe then??? Will you remember this post on that day??? Millions of believers will have vanished,what will you think??? What will you say??? What will you do???? Your only chance is to call out to god! Repent and confess your sins,accept jesus as your lord and savior though after the rapture the anti-christ will try to hunt you down and kill you!!! Why not wise up and be saved now????
stop lying.
you hate Catholics and by proxy the Orthodox and you spread the lies about them so you feel justified in your hatred.
Partial preterism is what the Church Fathers professed and I do trust those much more than some XIX or XVI century loons which declared that they know it better for their personal benefit, to start with.
You can believe whatever you want - i, personally, do not care.
Just do not pretend it is the only possible way.
and the rapture is simply laughable.
as is the LITERAL reading of the Bible and interpretation as you personally feel like it.
they do not.
What Bible did they have for 1500 years that they could read if that was a lie?
the same they have now and had all 2000 years.
where do you get these conspiracy idiocy about forbidding to read the Bible?
Looks like it is YOU who have not read it. as I proved you with the reference to the New Testament.
and you clearly lose the dispute as you reference to the pedophile scandals.
BTW the pedophile priests are in your Protestant churches as well - and absolutely not less than anywhere else. maybe even more as nobody is being defrocked and some denominations are even making openly gay men their priests.
So take a log form your own eye first
William Tyndale (sometimes spelled Tynsdale, Tindall, Tindill, Tyndall; c. 14941536) was an English scholar who became a leading figure in Protestant reform in the years leading up to his execution. He is well known for his translation of the Bible into English. He was influenced by the work of Desiderius Erasmus, who made the Greek New Testament available in Europe, and by Martin Luther.[1] While a number of partial and incomplete translations had been made from the seventh century onward, the grass-roots spread ofeven though translations in all other major European languages had been accomplished and made available.[2][3]Wycliffe's Bible resulted in a death sentence for any unlicensed possession of Scripture in English
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What Bible did they have for 1500 years that they could read if that was a lie?
the same they have now and had all 2000 years.
where do you get these conspiracy idiocy about forbidding to read the Bible?
Looks like it is YOU who have not read it. as I proved you with the reference to the New Testament.
and you clearly lose the dispute as you reference to the pedophile scandals.
BTW the pedophile priests are in your Protestant churches as well - and absolutely not less than anywhere else. maybe even more as nobody is being defrocked and some denominations are even making openly gay men their priests.
So take a log form your own eye first
What Bible did the Catholics read? There wasn't one because it wasn't translated.
We have Wycliffe's Bible in 1382 and we have the Catholic DOUAY-Rheims Bible in 1582. That is a difference of 200 years and I think the Catholics were forced to print it to compete. If you know your history and if it isn't a lie then show me a Catholic Bible translated for the masses before that because there wasn't one.
The Bible was one of the first textbooks in American schools so that people could read the Bible.
What Bible did they have for 1500 years that they could read if that was a lie?
the same they have now and had all 2000 years.
where do you get these conspiracy idiocy about forbidding to read the Bible?
Looks like it is YOU who have not read it. as I proved you with the reference to the New Testament.
and you clearly lose the dispute as you reference to the pedophile scandals.
BTW the pedophile priests are in your Protestant churches as well - and absolutely not less than anywhere else. maybe even more as nobody is being defrocked and some denominations are even making openly gay men their priests.
So take a log form your own eye first
What conspiracy? The Bible was considered so sacred that translating it into the vulgate tongues were forbidden. People were put to death for translating the Bible into the common languages of Europe. So yes, people were forbidding the Bible from being read by the average person.
This is hardly a conspiracy theory. It's recorded history.
After rapture day and you are left behind will you believe then??? Will you remember this post on that day??? Millions of believers will have vanished,what will you think??? What will you say??? What will you do???? Your only chance is to call out to god! Repent and confess your sins,accept jesus as your lord and savior though after the rapture the anti-christ will try to hunt you down and kill you!!! Why not wise up and be saved now????
Why are you mocking the rapture?
GOD gave man freewill GODwill not force anyone to accept HIS love and forgivness you are free to reject GOD and thereby choose hell! your choice.but you can't then turn and try to blame GOD for your poor choice and love of sin.
After rapture day and you are left behind will you believe then??? Will you remember this post on that day??? Millions of believers will have vanished,what will you think??? What will you say??? What will you do???? Your only chance is to call out to god! Repent and confess your sins,accept jesus as your lord and savior though after the rapture the anti-christ will try to hunt you down and kill you!!! Why not wise up and be saved now????
When the Rapture Comes, can I have your car?
the same they have now and had all 2000 years.
where do you get these conspiracy idiocy about forbidding to read the Bible?
Looks like it is YOU who have not read it. as I proved you with the reference to the New Testament.
and you clearly lose the dispute as you reference to the pedophile scandals.
BTW the pedophile priests are in your Protestant churches as well - and absolutely not less than anywhere else. maybe even more as nobody is being defrocked and some denominations are even making openly gay men their priests.
So take a log form your own eye first
What conspiracy? The Bible was considered so sacred that translating it into the vulgate tongues were forbidden. People were put to death for translating the Bible into the common languages of Europe. So yes, people were forbidding the Bible from being read by the average person.
This is hardly a conspiracy theory. It's recorded history.
are you retarded?
or you consider people did not learn Latin or Greek? Or it can not be read?
What does have translation has to do with your claim that Catholics are FORBIDDEN to read the Bible?
After rapture day and you are left behind will you believe then??? Will you remember this post on that day??? Millions of believers will have vanished,what will you think??? What will you say??? What will you do???? Your only chance is to call out to god! Repent and confess your sins,accept jesus as your lord and savior though after the rapture the anti-christ will try to hunt you down and kill you!!! Why not wise up and be saved now????
Every generation has convinced itself their's is the generation that'll see the rapture. And so far, every generation has been wrong. Wanna plan for it go ahead, just be aware it's your own ego and ignorance convincing you of it's impending arrival, not anything Scriptural.
the same they have now and had all 2000 years.
where do you get these conspiracy idiocy about forbidding to read the Bible?
Looks like it is YOU who have not read it. as I proved you with the reference to the New Testament.
and you clearly lose the dispute as you reference to the pedophile scandals.
BTW the pedophile priests are in your Protestant churches as well - and absolutely not less than anywhere else. maybe even more as nobody is being defrocked and some denominations are even making openly gay men their priests.
So take a log form your own eye first
What Bible did the Catholics read? There wasn't one because it wasn't translated.
We have Wycliffe's Bible in 1382 and we have the Catholic DOUAY-Rheims Bible in 1582. That is a difference of 200 years and I think the Catholics were forced to print it to compete. If you know your history and if it isn't a lie then show me a Catholic Bible translated for the masses before that because there wasn't one.
The Bible was one of the first textbooks in American schools so that people could read the Bible.
LOL
the same you protestants read until you decided to change it to fit your agenda
After rapture day and you are left behind will you believe then??? Will you remember this post on that day??? Millions of believers will have vanished,what will you think??? What will you say??? What will you do???? Your only chance is to call out to god! Repent and confess your sins,accept jesus as your lord and savior though after the rapture the anti-christ will try to hunt you down and kill you!!! Why not wise up and be saved now????
Why NOW?
What are the "signs" that tell you it's upon us?
