Reagan & Conservatives -- Revisonist History 101

[peach174]

Reagan left office about as popular as anyone in history. Why on earth would he worry about his enshrined legacy? I can see the desperation in his detractors a quarter of a century after the man left office. Now that's a legacy!

I see why you were named Meathead (dead from the neck up).

Fact: Reagan was not loved by conservatives when he left office.

Do you know what Reagan's popularity was his last year in office? Mostly between 49% & 53%.

Do you know what it must have been with conservatives? Read the past press he received form conservatives, in their very own words they now try to run away from

revisionism doesn't work where information is available

Fact: When Reagan left office his biggest detractors were conservatives

You are the one doing the revisionism.

His ratings went down because of the Iran-Contra affair.
His ratings was at 53%, better than Nixon, Ford & Carter.

 

[Agit8r]

If he was in politics nowadays, Reagan would not be considered a conservative

 

[Oldstyle]

The man who gave terrorists their biggest gains ever currently sits in the Oval Office. That is if he isn't out getting in yet another round of golf.

Barry's disjointed and confused Middle East policy has led to a terrorist army on the outskirts of the capital city of Iraq. Winning gives terrorists "acceptability" and they have NEVER won like they have been under Obama's watch!

Oh nonsense. Arabs have been fighting Persians since biblical days. When Muslims separated into Sunni and Shiite they just had even more to kill each other over. You're blaming Obama for a war that has been going on since Old Testament days. I'll bet you can read about the battles between the Persians and Arabs in the Bible.

Well, gee whiz, Camp! If it's so obvious that Arabs have been fighting Persians since biblical days and will continue to do so...then why did we just pull out the troops that were keeping a fragile peace in place that is crucial to our economy? And if you're going to make the claim that what happens there is not our business? My next question is going to be why it is that President Obama hasn't been doing more to make us more energy independent? Production of oil and natural gas is down on land controlled by the Feds. It's up substantially elsewhere. Does Barry not grasp what pulling troops out is going to do to that area of the Middle East? Did he miscalculate that badly how nasty it would get this quickly? What's his Middle East policy to stabilize the area? What's his energy policy to protect our fragile economy from spiking oil prices?

 

[Oldstyle]

If he was in politics nowadays, Reagan would not be considered a conservative

If Reagan was the President he'd be seen first and foremost as a leader. We don't have that in the Oval Office right now.

 

[Iceweasel]

For those of you who are more interested in the TRUTH about trade and deficeits than scoring stupid PARTISAN point?

Here's the REAL numbers from 1790 to present

Foreign Imports, Exports, and Trade Balance: 1790-2006

What does this show us?

It shows us that our trade imbalances really started around 1970 and were accelerated thanks to our trade policies by EVER POTUS SINCE NIXXON!

The Reagan haters could not care less about facts. That isn't their goal.

fucking hypocrite LIAR,you REAGANUT TROllS are the ones that dont care about FACTS.we arent the ones that change the subject talking about Obamas corruption when cornered with facts about how reagan betrayed americans refusing to comment on links and or watch videos and talk about the information in them.we address them,you all chickenshit cowards run off with your tail betweeen your legs when you know you are cornered. you all REFUSE to talk about ANY of the facts we have all posted,you all CONSTANTLY evaded them switching the subject talking about Obamas corruoption instead.

thats how you disinfo agents operate.pathetic.we dont go and change the subject talking about a different presidnet like you reaganut trolls do.you know it,we know troll.

Were you being fisted when you typed that?

 

[hunarcy]

You are the one doing the revisionism.

His ratings went down because of the Iran-Contra affair.
His ratings was at 53%, better than Nixon, Ford & Carter.

Better than W. and Obama as well.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

With all the talk about terrorism in the news, it is only right to bring up the father and creator of modern day terrorism against America, Ronald Reagan. The man who gave terrorist a fighting chance and gave them acceptability.

To be fair Reagan helped beat back the terrorism of the 70s/80s.
All of them: Germans, Italians, Greeks, Japanese, Palestinian offshoots, Irish, and more...

When you want to beat back the myths of Reagan's legacy try dealing with facts and truth

Imbecilic posts likes yours only make the rest of Reagan's critics look bad

thanks for nothin' asshole
D

 

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Reagan & Conservatives -- Revisonist History 101

1988: Reagan Abandoned, Mocked by Hardline Conservatives​

This is why the GOP lost in 2008 and 2012: They are living in a past that never existed, just like Reagan did. Reagan raised taxes, grew government, backed socialist programs, and more. When a political party lives on myth, sooner or later it all just collapses into a warm pile of shit

1988: Reagan Abandoned, Mocked by Hardline Conservatives
George Will

As the end of President Reagan’s final term approaches, conservatives and hardliners have radically changed their view of him. They originally saw him as one of their own—a crusader for good against evil, obstinately opposed to communism in general and to any sort of arms reduction agreement with the Soviet Union in specific. But recent events—Reagan’s recent moderation in rhetoric towards the Soviets (see December 1983 and After), the summits with Soviet Premier Mikhail Gorbachev (see November 16-19, 1985 and October 11-12, 1986), and the recent arms treaties with the Soviets (see Early 1985 and December 7-8, 1987) have soured them on Reagan.

Hardliners had once held considerable power in the Reagan administration (see January 1981 and After and Early 1981 and After), but their influence has steadily waned, and their attempts to sabotage and undermine arms control negotiations (see April 1981 and After, September 1981 through November 1983, May 1982 and After, and April 1983-December 1983), initially quite successful, have grown less effective and more desperate (see Before November 16, 1985). Attempts by administration hardliners to get “soft” officials such as Secretary of State George Shultz fired do not succeed. Conservative pundits such as George Will and William Safire lambast Reagan, with Will accusing him of “moral disarmament” and Safire mocking Reagan’s rapport with Gorbachev: “He professed to see in Mr. Gorbachev’s eyes an end to the Soviet goal of world domination.” It will not be until after the collapse of the Soviet Union and the tearing down of the Berlin Wall (see November 9, 1989 and After) that conservatives will revise their opinion of Reagan, in the process revising much of history in the process. [Scoblic, 2008, pp. 143-145]

Entity Tags: George Will, George Shultz, William Safire, Mikhail Gorbachev, Ronald Reagan

So it was Reagan's becoming more liberal towards the Soviets, that brought about Reagan's deals with the Soviets, that led to a warming of the cold war and the end of the Soviets' hostility distrust of the west and the USA

b.o.t.

 

[Dad2three]

Reagan left office about as popular as anyone in history. Why on earth would he worry about his enshrined legacy? I can see the desperation in his detractors a quarter of a century after the man left office. Now that's a legacy!

I see why you were named Meathead (dead from the neck up).

Fact: Reagan was not loved by conservatives when he left office.

Do you know what Reagan's popularity was his last year in office? Mostly between 49% & 53%.

Do you know what it must have been with conservatives? Read the past press he received form conservatives, in their very own words they now try to run away from

revisionism doesn't work where information is available

Fact: When Reagan left office his biggest detractors were conservatives

You are the one doing the revisionism.

His ratings went down because of the Iran-Contra affair.
His ratings was at 53%, better than Nixon, Ford & Carter.

The Whitewashing of Ronald Reagan


A Gallup poll taken in 1992 found that Ronald Reagan was the most unpopular living president apart from Nixon, and ranked even below Jimmy Carter; just 46 percent of Americans had a favorable view of Reagan while Carter was viewed favorably by 63 percent of Americans.

This was before the Hollywood-style re-write of Reagan’s presidency that created the fictional character portrayed during Reagan’s 100th birthday celebration.


Vox Verax: The Whitewashing of Ronald Reagan

 

[Meathead]

I see why you were named Meathead (dead from the neck up).

Fact: Reagan was not loved by conservatives when he left office.

Do you know what Reagan's popularity was his last year in office? Mostly between 49% & 53%.

Do you know what it must have been with conservatives? Read the past press he received form conservatives, in their very own words they now try to run away from

revisionism doesn't work where information is available

Fact: When Reagan left office his biggest detractors were conservatives

You are the one doing the revisionism.

His ratings went down because of the Iran-Contra affair.
His ratings was at 53%, better than Nixon, Ford & Carter.

The Whitewashing of Ronald Reagan


A Gallup poll taken in 1992 found that Ronald Reagan was the most unpopular living president apart from Nixon, and ranked even below Jimmy Carter; just 46 percent of Americans had a favorable view of Reagan while Carter was viewed favorably by 63 percent of Americans.

This was before the Hollywood-style re-write of Reagan’s presidency that created the fictional character portrayed during Reagan’s 100th birthday celebration.


Vox Verax: The Whitewashing of Ronald Reagan

My God, you've just rewritten decades of world history with a google search. Amazing!

 

[Jroc]

I see why you were named Meathead (dead from the neck up).

Fact: Reagan was not loved by conservatives when he left office.

Do you know what Reagan's popularity was his last year in office? Mostly between 49% & 53%.

Do you know what it must have been with conservatives? Read the past press he received form conservatives, in their very own words they now try to run away from

revisionism doesn't work where information is available

Fact: When Reagan left office his biggest detractors were conservatives

You are the one doing the revisionism.

His ratings went down because of the Iran-Contra affair.
His ratings was at 53%, better than Nixon, Ford & Carter.

The Whitewashing of Ronald Reagan


A Gallup poll taken in 1992 found that Ronald Reagan was the most unpopular living president apart from Nixon, and ranked even below Jimmy Carter; just 46 percent of Americans had a favorable view of Reagan while Carter was viewed favorably by 63 percent of Americans.

This was before the Hollywood-style re-write of Reagan’s presidency that created the fictional character portrayed during Reagan’s 100th birthday celebration.


Vox Verax: The Whitewashing of Ronald Reagan

Yeah? 2 landslide victories and his vice president elected president in a landslide as well ....Gallop poll in 1992? Really? Is that supposed to be relevant somehow? I think you're a paid hack actually

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

[MENTION=25505]Jroc[/MENTION] [MENTION=49669]Dad2three[/MENTION] [MENTION=23262]peach174[/MENTION]

You are the one doing the revisionism.

His ratings went down because of the Iran-Contra affair.
His ratings was at 53%, better than Nixon, Ford & Carter.

The Whitewashing of Ronald Reagan


A Gallup poll taken in 1992 found that Ronald Reagan was the most unpopular living president apart from Nixon, and ranked even below Jimmy Carter; just 46 percent of Americans had a favorable view of Reagan while Carter was viewed favorably by 63 percent of Americans.

This was before the Hollywood-style re-write of Reagan’s presidency that created the fictional character portrayed during Reagan’s 100th birthday celebration.


Vox Verax: The Whitewashing of Ronald Reagan

Yeah? 2 landslide victories and his vice president elected president in a landslide as well ....Gallop poll in 1992? Really? Is that supposed to be relevant somehow? I think you're a paid hack actually

Here we go again.......

Landslides? Reagan did not win by a popular landslide in 1980 as he did in 1984. He barely squeaked by.

Reagan's win in 1980: Facts: 489 out of 538 electoral votes of the Electoral College.
270 electoral votes needed to win. Popular vote 54,455,472

Voter Turnout 52.6%

Reagan's win: 50.8% of 52.6% in a three way race. 49.2% didn't want him.

Look at Obama's win in 2008: 365 out of 538 electoral votes of the Electoral College.
270 electoral votes needed to win. Popular vote 69,498,516

Voter Turnout 61.6% (voting eligible)

Obama's win: 52.9% of 61.6% in a two way race. 47.1% didn't want him

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1984

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2008

 

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[MENTION=23262]peach174[/MENTION] [MENTION=34777]Meathead[/MENTION]

Reagan left office about as popular as anyone in history. Why on earth would he worry about his enshrined legacy? I can see the desperation in his detractors a quarter of a century after the man left office. Now that's a legacy!

I see why you were named Meathead (dead from the neck up).

Fact: Reagan was not loved by conservatives when he left office.

Do you know what Reagan's popularity was his last year in office? Mostly between 49% & 53%.

Do you know what it must have been with conservatives? Read the past press he received form conservatives, in their very own words they now try to run away from

revisionism doesn't work where information is available

Fact: When Reagan left office his biggest detractors were conservatives

You are the one doing the revisionism.

His ratings went down because of the Iran-Contra affair.
His ratings was at 53%, better than Nixon, Ford & Carter.

George Will

Nope dope: 1988:

Reagan Abandoned, Mocked by Hardline Conservatives


As the end of President Reagan’s final term approaches, conservatives and hardliners have radically changed their view of him.

Conservative Opposition - Hardline conservatives protest Gorbachev’s visit to Washington, and the signing of the treaty, in the strongest possible terms. When Reagan suggests that Gorbachev address a joint session of Congress, Congressional Republicans, led by House member Dick Cheney (R-WY—see 1983), rebel. Cheney says: “Addressing a joint meeting of Congress is a high honor, one of the highest honors we can accord anyone. Given the fact of continuing Soviet aggression in Afghanistan, Soviet repression in Eastern Europe, and Soviet actions in Africa and Central America, it is totally inappropriate to confer this honor upon Gorbachev. He is an adversary, not an ally.”

Conservative Paul Weyrich of the Free Congress Committee is more blunt in his assessment of the treaty agreement: “Reagan is a weakened president, weakened in spirit as well as in clout, and not in a position to make judgments about Gorbachev at this time.”

Conservative pundit William F. Buckley calls the treaty a “suicide pact.”

Fellow conservative pundit George Will calls Reagan “wildly wrong” in his dealings with the Soviets. Conservatives gather to bemoan what they call “summit fever,” accusing Reagan of “appeasement” both of communists and of Congressional liberals, and protesting Reagan’s “cutting deals with the evil empire” (see March 8, 1983). They mount a letter-writing campaign, generating some 300,000 letters, and launch a newspaper ad campaign that compares Reagan to former British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain.

Senators Jesse Helms (R-NC) and Steven Symms (R-ID) try to undercut the treaty by attempting to add amendments that would make the treaty untenable; Helms will lead a filibuster against the treaty as well.

 

[Meathead]

As the end of President Reagan’s final term approaches, conservatives and hardliners have radically changed their view of him.

Conservative Opposition - Hardline conservatives protest Gorbachev’s visit to Washington, and the signing of the treaty, in the strongest possible terms. When Reagan suggests that Gorbachev address a joint session of Congress, Congressional Republicans, led by House member Dick Cheney (R-WY—see 1983), rebel. Cheney says: “Addressing a joint meeting of Congress is a high honor, one of the highest honors we can accord anyone. Given the fact of continuing Soviet aggression in Afghanistan, Soviet repression in Eastern Europe, and Soviet actions in Africa and Central America, it is totally inappropriate to confer this honor upon Gorbachev. He is an adversary, not an ally.”

Conservative Paul Weyrich of the Free Congress Committee is more blunt in his assessment of the treaty agreement: “Reagan is a weakened president, weakened in spirit as well as in clout, and not in a position to make judgments about Gorbachev at this time.”

Conservative pundit William F. Buckley calls the treaty a “suicide pact.”

Fellow conservative pundit George Will calls Reagan “wildly wrong” in his dealings with the Soviets. Conservatives gather to bemoan what they call “summit fever,” accusing Reagan of “appeasement” both of communists and of Congressional liberals, and protesting Reagan’s “cutting deals with the evil empire” (see March 8, 1983). They mount a letter-writing campaign, generating some 300,000 letters, and launch a newspaper ad campaign that compares Reagan to former British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain.

Senators Jesse Helms (R-NC) and Steven Symms (R-ID) try to undercut the treaty by attempting to add amendments that would make the treaty untenable; Helms will lead a filibuster against the treaty as well.

[/QUOTE]An excellent example Reagan's greatness. Thank you.

 

[Jroc]

[MENTION=25505]Jroc[/MENTION] [MENTION=49669]Dad2three[/MENTION] [MENTION=23262]peach174[/MENTION]

The Whitewashing of Ronald Reagan


A Gallup poll taken in 1992 found that Ronald Reagan was the most unpopular living president apart from Nixon, and ranked even below Jimmy Carter; just 46 percent of Americans had a favorable view of Reagan while Carter was viewed favorably by 63 percent of Americans.

This was before the Hollywood-style re-write of Reagan’s presidency that created the fictional character portrayed during Reagan’s 100th birthday celebration.


Vox Verax: The Whitewashing of Ronald Reagan

Yeah? 2 landslide victories and his vice president elected president in a landslide as well ....Gallop poll in 1992? Really? Is that supposed to be relevant somehow? I think you're a paid hack actually

Here we go again.......

Landslides? Reagan did not win by a popular landslide in 1980 as he did in 1984. He barely squeaked by.

Reagan's win in 1980: Facts: 489 out of 538 electoral votes of the Electoral College.
270 electoral votes needed to win. Popular vote 54,455,472

Voter Turnout 52.6%

Reagan's win: 50.8% of 52.6% in a three way race. 49.2% didn't want him.

Look at Obama's win in 2008: 365 out of 538 electoral votes of the Electoral College.
270 electoral votes needed to win. Popular vote 69,498,516

Voter Turnout 61.6% (voting eligible)

Obama's win: 52.9% of 61.6% in a two way race. 47.1% didn't want him

United States presidential election, 1984 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

United States presidential election, 2008 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Looks like a landslide to me and against a setting president too

Obama is actually the only president in American history to be reelected with fewer votes than he got the first time, because the Republicans had a weak candidate, also the government unions got out their vote

 

[Dad2three]

You are the one doing the revisionism.

His ratings went down because of the Iran-Contra affair.
His ratings was at 53%, better than Nixon, Ford & Carter.

The Whitewashing of Ronald Reagan


A Gallup poll taken in 1992 found that Ronald Reagan was the most unpopular living president apart from Nixon, and ranked even below Jimmy Carter; just 46 percent of Americans had a favorable view of Reagan while Carter was viewed favorably by 63 percent of Americans.

This was before the Hollywood-style re-write of Reagan’s presidency that created the fictional character portrayed during Reagan’s 100th birthday celebration.


Vox Verax: The Whitewashing of Ronald Reagan

My God, you've just rewritten decades of world history with a google search. Amazing!

Nah, HUNDREDS of millions of dollars right wing think tanks spent did that to create the MYTH of Ronnie


How Republicans created the myth of Ronald Reagan

With the Gipper's reputation flagging after Clinton, neoconservatives launched a stealthy campaign to remake him as a "great" president.



The myth of Ronald Reagan was already looming in the spring of 1997 — when a highly popular President Bill Clinton was launching his second-term, pre-Monica Lewinsky, and the Republican brand seemed at low ebb. But what neoconservative activist Grover Norquist and his allies proposed that spring was virtually unheard of — an active, mapped-out, audacious campaign to spread a distorted vision of Reagan’s legacy across America.

In a sense, some of the credit for triggering this may belong to those supposedly liberal editors at the New York Times, and their decision at the end of 1996 to publish that Arthur Schlesinger Jr. survey of the presidents. The below-average rating by the historians for Reagan, coming right on the heels of Clintons’ easy reelection victory, was a wake-up call for these people who came to Washington in the 1980s as the shock troops of a revolution and now saw everything slipping away.


How Republicans created the myth of Ronald Reagan - Salon.com

 

[Dad2three]

You are the one doing the revisionism.

His ratings went down because of the Iran-Contra affair.
His ratings was at 53%, better than Nixon, Ford & Carter.

The Whitewashing of Ronald Reagan


A Gallup poll taken in 1992 found that Ronald Reagan was the most unpopular living president apart from Nixon, and ranked even below Jimmy Carter; just 46 percent of Americans had a favorable view of Reagan while Carter was viewed favorably by 63 percent of Americans.

This was before the Hollywood-style re-write of Reagan’s presidency that created the fictional character portrayed during Reagan’s 100th birthday celebration.


Vox Verax: The Whitewashing of Ronald Reagan

Yeah? 2 landslide victories and his vice president elected president in a landslide as well ....Gallop poll in 1992? Really? Is that supposed to be relevant somehow? I think you're a paid hack actually

Yeah, Weird those in 1992 that actually LIVED through Reagan's disaster wouldn't know better right? It took right wing think tanks to spend hundreds of millions to create the MYTHS of Ronnie.....

 

[LA RAM FAN]

The man who gave terrorists their biggest gains ever currently sits in the Oval Office. That is if he isn't out getting in yet another round of golf.

Barry's disjointed and confused Middle East policy has led to a terrorist army on the outskirts of the capital city of Iraq. Winning gives terrorists "acceptability" and they have NEVER won like they have been under Obama's watch!

Oh nonsense. Arabs have been fighting Persians since biblical days. When Muslims separated into Sunni and Shiite they just had even more to kill each other over. You're blaming Obama for a war that has been going on since Old Testament days. I'll bet you can read about the battles between the Persians and Arabs in the Bible.

Dude I cant believe after all this time you are STILL. attempting to even try to have a rational discussion with TROLLSTYLE. you really should follow the old advise of mine which is-

 

[LA RAM FAN]

I see why you were named Meathead (dead from the neck up).

Fact: Reagan was not loved by conservatives when he left office.

Do you know what Reagan's popularity was his last year in office? Mostly between 49% & 53%.

Do you know what it must have been with conservatives? Read the past press he received form conservatives, in their very own words they now try to run away from

revisionism doesn't work where information is available

Fact: When Reagan left office his biggest detractors were conservatives

You are the one doing the revisionism.

His ratings went down because of the Iran-Contra affair.
His ratings was at 53%, better than Nixon, Ford & Carter.

The Whitewashing of Ronald Reagan


A Gallup poll taken in 1992 found that Ronald Reagan was the most unpopular living president apart from Nixon, and ranked even below Jimmy Carter; just 46 percent of Americans had a favorable view of Reagan while Carter was viewed favorably by 63 percent of Americans.

This was before the Hollywood-style re-write of Reagan’s presidency that created the fictional character portrayed during Reagan’s 100th birthday celebration.


Vox Verax: The Whitewashing of Ronald Reagan

exactly.Peach like so many other brainwahed americans who cant think outside the box and for herself ,has been taken in by the idiot box in her front living room, CIA controlled media's version of him, such as LIFE magazine and the way hollywood has put him on on a high mantle. I was pleased to see that the movie THE BUTLER actully told some of the true atrcoites that he committed while president.Thats the only time i can ever recall hollywood ever not worshipping him and actually saying something negative about him at all.

great link by the way.Thats one that I have never come across before.thanks for sharing it here.the reaganut brainwashed worshippers as always led by their ringleading cheerleader CRUSADER RETARD,CAN ONLY SLING SHIT IN DEFEAT LIKE THE MONKEY TROLLS THEY ARE.I say that all the time but have to since it is so much true.hee hee

 

[sealybobo]

Reagan & Conservatives -- Revisonist History 101

1988: Reagan Abandoned, Mocked by Hardline Conservatives​

This is why the GOP lost in 2008 and 2012: They are living in a past that never existed, just like Reagan did. Reagan raised taxes, grew government, backed socialist programs, and more. When a political party lives on myth, sooner or later it all just collapses into a warm pile of shit

1988: Reagan Abandoned, Mocked by Hardline Conservatives
George Will

As the end of President Reagan’s final term approaches, conservatives and hardliners have radically changed their view of him. They originally saw him as one of their own—a crusader for good against evil, obstinately opposed to communism in general and to any sort of arms reduction agreement with the Soviet Union in specific. But recent events—Reagan’s recent moderation in rhetoric towards the Soviets (see December 1983 and After), the summits with Soviet Premier Mikhail Gorbachev (see November 16-19, 1985 and October 11-12, 1986), and the recent arms treaties with the Soviets (see Early 1985 and December 7-8, 1987) have soured them on Reagan.

Hardliners had once held considerable power in the Reagan administration (see January 1981 and After and Early 1981 and After), but their influence has steadily waned, and their attempts to sabotage and undermine arms control negotiations (see April 1981 and After, September 1981 through November 1983, May 1982 and After, and April 1983-December 1983), initially quite successful, have grown less effective and more desperate (see Before November 16, 1985). Attempts by administration hardliners to get “soft” officials such as Secretary of State George Shultz fired do not succeed. Conservative pundits such as George Will and William Safire lambast Reagan, with Will accusing him of “moral disarmament” and Safire mocking Reagan’s rapport with Gorbachev: “He professed to see in Mr. Gorbachev’s eyes an end to the Soviet goal of world domination.” It will not be until after the collapse of the Soviet Union and the tearing down of the Berlin Wall (see November 9, 1989 and After) that conservatives will revise their opinion of Reagan, in the process revising much of history in the process. [Scoblic, 2008, pp. 143-145]

Entity Tags: George Will, George Shultz, William Safire, Mikhail Gorbachev, Ronald Reagan

So it was Reagan's becoming more liberal towards the Soviets, that brought about Reagan's deals with the Soviets, that led to a warming of the cold war and the end of the Soviets' hostility distrust of the west and the USA

Reagan sucked

Roll Back the Reagan Tax Cuts

We’d been discussing taxes on the air and the fact that Denmark has an average 52 percent income-tax rate. I asked him why people didn’t revolt at such high taxes, and he smiled and pointed out to me that the average Dane is very well paid, with a minimum wage that equals roughly $18 per hour. Moreover, what Danes get for their taxes (that we don’t) is a free college education and free health care, not to mention four weeks of paid vacation each year and notoriety as the happiest nation on earth, according to a major study done by the University of Leicester in the United Kingdom.2

But it was once we were off the air that he made the comment that I found so enlightening.

“You Americans are such suckers,” he said. “You think that the rules for taxes that apply to rich people also apply to working people, but they don’t. When working peoples’ taxes go up, their pay goes up. When their taxes go down, their pay goes down. It may take a year or two or three to all even out, but it always works this way—look at any country in Europe. And that rule on taxes is the opposite of how it works for rich people!”

My Danish guest was right. So before we get into the larger consequences of tax increases or tax cuts for the nation’s economic health, let’s parse this business about what tax increases or cuts mean for the rich and for the not-so-rich.