Rebels demand Israeli support

[dilloduck]

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hey---the dude knew what he was doing

So why don't the Saudis (and Qataris) provide their rebels with a little more punch instead of calling on the good old USA ?

Who has the most punch? Kuwait paid for the first invasion of Iraq and still is paying and for decades more.

They're not stupid. Have you heard of the death from a thousand cuts? Why use their own blood?

Oil is cheaper and they trust paid mercenaries more than their own people from different tribes. That's why the Saudi Air force is comprised mostly of non Saudi pilots, etc.

surely they can punish Assad for the fake gas thing then.

 

[Ropey]

T. E. Lawrence - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


hey---the dude knew what he was doing

So why don't the Saudis (and Qataris) provide their rebels with a little more punch instead of calling on the good old USA ?

Who has the most punch? Kuwait paid for the first invasion of Iraq and still is paying and for decades more.

They're not stupid. Have you heard of the death from a thousand cuts? Why use their own blood?

Oil is cheaper and they trust paid mercenaries more than their own people from different tribes. That's why the Saudi Air force is comprised mostly of non Saudi pilots, etc.

surely they can punish Assad for the fake gas thing then.

Yemen is their real border issue and they use their own pilots for those actions.

 

[dilloduck]

Pretty damn strategic spot too. Maybe they will reimburse use for our tomahawks !!

 

[Ropey]

Pretty damn strategic spot too. Maybe they will reimburse use for our tomahawks !!

Yes, you got the geography immediately and there's no maybe. Saudi Arabia is just ending their contractual obligations with the US over their oil extractions, transport, security and insurance.

I see a new Saudi oil contract coming up and it's not going to be awarded to China (imo).

 

[dilloduck]

Pretty damn strategic spot too. Maybe they will reimburse use for our tomahawks !!

Yes, you got the geography immediately and there's no maybe. Saudi Arabia is just ending their contractual obligations with the US over their oil extractions, transport, security and insurance.

I see a new Saudi oil contract coming up and it's not going to be awarded to China (imo).

It's a good thing America has a sugar daddy.

 

[Ropey]

Pretty damn strategic spot too. Maybe they will reimburse use for our tomahawks !!

Yes, you got the geography immediately and there's no maybe. Saudi Arabia is just ending their contractual obligations with the US over their oil extractions, transport, security and insurance.

I see a new Saudi oil contract coming up and it's not going to be awarded to China (imo).

It's a good thing America has a sugar daddy.

"A"

Europe & China paid for at least half of the housing crisis and America is still incrementally recessing the Chinese out of their principle, while paying the interest.

Nice bit of Capitalist tomfoolery there.

Still, the Chinese won't let that happen again.

Kuwait's on the hook for at least twenty years. Do you know Saddam's reasoning for invading Kuwait?

 

[dilloduck]

Yes, you got the geography immediately and there's no maybe. Saudi Arabia is just ending their contractual obligations with the US over their oil extractions, transport, security and insurance.

I see a new Saudi oil contract coming up and it's not going to be awarded to China (imo).

It's a good thing America has a sugar daddy.

"A"

Europe & China paid for at least half of the housing crisis and America is still incrementally recessing the Chinese out of their principle, while paying the interest.

Nice bit of Capitalist tomfoolery there.

Still, the Chinese won't let that happen again.

Kuwait's on the hook for at least twenty years. Do you know Saddam's reasoning for invading Kuwait?

I heard Kuwait was slant drilling into his oil fields.

 

[Ropey]

It's a good thing America has a sugar daddy.

"A"

Europe & China paid for at least half of the housing crisis and America is still incrementally recessing the Chinese out of their principle, while paying the interest.

Nice bit of Capitalist tomfoolery there.

Still, the Chinese won't let that happen again.

Kuwait's on the hook for at least twenty years. Do you know Saddam's reasoning for invading Kuwait?

I heard Kuwait was slant drilling into his oil fields.

They were already paying him exorbitant fees for that but that's the reason.

He demanded more and they said no. Now they're paying the US more than they would have paid Saddam.

 

[dilloduck]

"A"

Europe & China paid for at least half of the housing crisis and America is still incrementally recessing the Chinese out of their principle, while paying the interest.

Nice bit of Capitalist tomfoolery there.

Still, the Chinese won't let that happen again.

Kuwait's on the hook for at least twenty years. Do you know Saddam's reasoning for invading Kuwait?

I heard Kuwait was slant drilling into his oil fields.

They were already paying him exorbitant fees for that but that's the reason.

He demanded more and they said no. Now they're paying the US more than they would have paid Saddam.

Crazy Arabs

 

[Ropey]

I heard Kuwait was slant drilling into his oil fields.

They were already paying him exorbitant fees for that but that's the reason.

He demanded more and they said no. Now they're paying the US more than they would have paid Saddam.

Crazy Arabs

Smart Americans.

 

[dilloduck]

Nevertheless I still think it would be nice if Israel would give the Syrian rebels a little shout out and at least let em know that Israel appreciates what they are doing for them. It's the only neighborly thing to do.

 

[eagle1462010]

LOL

The Muslim Brotherhood wants a shout out from Israel.

LMAO

 

[dilloduck]

LOL

The Muslim Brotherhood wants a shout out from Israel.

LMAO

cmon now----they're kicking Hezbollah's ass.

 

[eagle1462010]

Trade a Tyrant for a Group of Tyrants.

How's Egypt's Arab Spring working Out?

We have no interests in either side here.

 

[dilloduck]

Trade a Tyrant for a Group of Tyrants.

How's Egypt's Arab Spring working Out?

We have no interests in either side here.

Sure we do---we're helping to protect Israel.

 

[eagle1462010]

Actually the Syrians are doing so. They are killing each other already. Let the fanatics kill each other. It doesn't cost us a cent that way.

 

[dilloduck]

Actually the Syrians are doing so. They are killing each other already. Let the fanatics kill each other. It doesn't cost us a cent that way.

Actually it's the rebels that are killing Hezbollah but they need help finishing this off. Word has it that the rebels are easier to handle than Assad .

 

[Ropey]

Actually the Syrians are doing so. They are killing each other already. Let the fanatics kill each other. It doesn't cost us a cent that way.

Actually it's the rebels that are killing Hezbollah but they need help finishing this off. Word has it that the rebels are easier to handle than Assad .

No doubt, and they're certainly easier to handle than Assad and the Hezbollah.

I heard Kuwait was slant drilling into his oil fields.

They were already paying him exorbitant fees for that but that's the reason.

He demanded more and they said no. Now they're paying the US more than they would have paid Saddam.

Crazy Arabs

Saddam was broke after the Iraq/Iran war and no one was playing nice with him anymore. He expected to be able to get more from Kuwait and they refused The US was angry with Saddam's attempts to turn from the petro dollar.

Iran tries the same thing but with a far greater effort and response. They've done quite well with trade.

The Demise of the Petrodollar

Rumors are swirling that India and Iran are at the negotiating table right now, hammering out a deal to trade oil for gold. Why does that matter, you ask? Only because it strikes at the heart of both the value of the US dollar and today's high-tension standoff with Iran.

The world is in a transitional movement and America is not stepping back to step away, but it is stepping back.

 

[dilloduck]

Actually the Syrians are doing so. They are killing each other already. Let the fanatics kill each other. It doesn't cost us a cent that way.

Actually it's the rebels that are killing Hezbollah but they need help finishing this off. Word has it that the rebels are easier to handle than Assad .

No doubt, and they're certainly easier to handle than Assad and the Hezbollah.

Crazy Arabs

Saddam was broke after the Iraq/Iran war and no one was playing nice with him anymore. He expected to be able to get more from Kuwait and they refused The US was angry with Saddam's attempts to turn from the petro dollar.

Iran tries the same thing but with a far greater effort and response. They've done quite well with trade.

The Demise of the Petrodollar

Rumors are swirling that India and Iran are at the negotiating table right now, hammering out a deal to trade oil for gold. Why does that matter, you ask? Only because it strikes at the heart of both the value of the US dollar and today's high-tension standoff with Iran.

The world is in a transitional movement and America is not stepping back to step away, but it is stepping back.

now there's a good reason to be concerned. Way more important than some poison gas.

 

[Ropey]

Actually it's the rebels that are killing Hezbollah but they need help finishing this off. Word has it that the rebels are easier to handle than Assad .

No doubt, and they're certainly easier to handle than Assad and the Hezbollah.


Saddam was broke after the Iraq/Iran war and no one was playing nice with him anymore. He expected to be able to get more from Kuwait and they refused The US was angry with Saddam's attempts to turn from the petro dollar.

Iran tries the same thing but with a far greater effort and response. They've done quite well with trade.

The Demise of the Petrodollar

Rumors are swirling that India and Iran are at the negotiating table right now, hammering out a deal to trade oil for gold. Why does that matter, you ask? Only because it strikes at the heart of both the value of the US dollar and today's high-tension standoff with Iran.

The world is in a transitional movement and America is not stepping back to step away, but it is stepping back.

now there's a good reason to be concerned. Way more important than some poison gas.

And certainly more important than silly little Palestinians/Jews.

The Iraq war provides a good example. Until November 2000, no OPEC country had dared to violate the US dollar-pricing rule, and while the US dollar remained the strongest currency in the world there was also little reason to challenge the system. But in late 2000, France and a few other EU members convinced Saddam Hussein to defy the petrodollar process and sell Iraq's oil for food in euros, not dollars. In the time between then and the March 2003 American invasion of Iraq, several other nations hinted at their interest in non-US dollar oil trading, including Russia, Iran, Indonesia, and even Venezuela. In April 2002, Iranian OPEC representative Javad Yarjani was invited to Spain by the EU to deliver a detailed analysis of how OPEC might at some point sell its oil to the EU for euros, not dollars.

This movement, founded in Iraq, was starting to threaten the dominance of the US dollar as the global reserve currency and petro currency. In March 2003, the US invaded Iraq, ending the oil-for-food program and its euro payment program.

Russia, India, and China – three members of the rising economic powerhouse group known as the BRICs (which also includes Brazil) – are allied with Iran and are major gold producers. If petrodollars go out of vogue and trading in other currencies gets too complicated, they can easily tap their gold storehouses to keep the crude flowing for the world.

We may be in some transitional times but I don't see major world powers fighting a full out war over the US Oil Hegemony and Iran.

When i saw the ambassadors being pulled i had an inkling of trouble. Now I wonder if it wasn't a practiced withdrawal.