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[JoeNormal]

I've never seen a more douchy article. The Republican pinheads will love it.

Give Back? Yes, It's Time For The 99% To Give Back To The 1%
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[Iceweasel]

I've never seen a more douchy article. The Republican pinheads will love it.

Give Back? Yes, It's Time For The 99% To Give Back To The 1%
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[JoeNormal]

I've never seen a more douchy article. The Republican pinheads will love it.

Give Back? Yes, It's Time For The 99% To Give Back To The 1%
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Can you post some content? My scriptblocker doesn't allow it. Just highlight the relevant portion with you mouse, hit copy, then paste here.

There must've been something wrong with the link I posted previously. I've corrected it but here's the text:

It’s time to gore another collectivist sacred cow. This time it’s the popular idea that the successful are obliged to “give back to the community.” That oft-heard claim assumes that the wealth of high-earners is taken away from “the community.” And beneath that lies the perverted Marxist notion that wealth is accumulated by “exploiting” people, not by creating value–as if Henry Ford was not necessary for Fords to roll off the (non-existent) assembly lines and Steve Jobs was not necessary for iPhones and iPads to spring into existence.
Let’s begin by stripping away the collectivism. “The community” never gave anyone anything. The “community,” the “society,” the “nation” is just a number of interacting individuals, not a mystical entity floating in a cloud above them. And when some individual person–a parent, a teacher, a customer–”gives” something to someone else, it is not an act of charity, but a trade for value received in return.
It was from love–not charity–that your mother fed you, bought clothes for you, paid for your education, gave you presents on your birthday. It was for value received that your teachers worked day in and day out to instruct you. In commercial transactions, customers buy a product not to provide alms to the business, but because they want the product or service–want it for their own personal benefit and enjoyment. And most of the time they get it, which is why they choose to continue patronizing the same businesses.

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All proper human interactions are win-win; that’s why the parties decide to engage in them. It’s not the Henry Fords and Steve Jobs who exploit people. It’s the Al Capones and Bernie Madoffs. Voluntary trade, without force or fraud, is the exchange of value for value, to mutual benefit. In trade, both parties gain.
Each particular individual in the community who contributed to a man’s rise to wealth was paid at the time–either materially or, as in the case of parents and friends, spiritually. There is no debt to discharge. There is nothing to give back, because there was nothing taken away.

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Well, maybe there is–in the other direction. The shoe is on the other foot. It is “the community” that should give back to the wealth-creators. It turns out that the 99% get far more benefit from the 1% than vice-versa. Ayn Rand developed the idea of “the pyramid of ability,” which John Galt sets forth in Atlas Shrugged:

When you live in a rational society, where men are free to trade, you receive an incalculable bonus: the material value of your work is determined not only by your effort, but by the effort of the best productive minds who exist in the world around you.
When you work in a modern factory, you are paid, not only for your labor, but for all the productive genius which has made that factory possible: for the work of the industrialist who built it, for the work of the investor who saved the money to risk on the untried and the new, for the work of the engineer who designed the machines of which you are pushing the levers, for the work of the inventor who created the product which you spend your time on making . . .
In proportion to the mental energy he spent, the man who creates a new invention receives but a small percentage of his value in terms of material payment, no matter what fortune he makes, no matter what millions he earns. But the man who works as a janitor in the factory producing that invention, receives an enormous payment in proportion to the mental effort that his job requires of him. And the same is true of all men between, on all levels of ambition and ability. The man at the top of the intellectual pyramid contributes the most to all those below him, but gets nothing except his material payment, receiving no intellectual bonus from others to add to the value of his time. The man at the bottom who, left to himself, would starve in his hopeless ineptitude, contributes nothing to those above him, but receives the bonus of all of their brains. Such is the nature of the ‘competition’ between the strong and the weak of the intellect. Such is the pattern of ‘exploitation’ for which you have damned the strong.​

For their enormous contributions to our standard of living, the high-earners should be thanked and publicly honored. We are in their debt.
Here’s a modest proposal. Anyone who earns a million dollars or more should be exempt from all income taxes. Yes, it’s too little. And the real issue is not financial, but moral. So to augment the tax-exemption, in an annual public ceremony, the year’s top earner should be awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor.
Imagine the effect on our culture, particularly on the young, if the kind of fame and adulation bathing Lady Gaga attached to the more notable achievements of say, Warren Buffett. Or if the moral praise showered on Mother Teresa went to someone like Lloyd Blankfein, who, in guiding Goldman Sachs toward billions in profits, has done infinitely more for mankind. (Since profit is the market value of the product minus the market value of factors used, profit represents the value created.)
Instead, we live in a culture where Goldman Sachs is smeared as “a great vampire squid wrapped around the face of humanity.” That’s for the sin of successful investing, channeling savings to their most productive uses, instead of wasting them on government boondoggles like Solyndra and bridges to nowhere.
There is indeed a vampire squid wrapped around the face of humanity: the Internal Revenue Service. And, at a deeper level, it is the monstrous perversion of justice that makes the IRS possible: an envy-ridden moral code that damns success, profit, and earning money in voluntary exchange.
An end must be put to the inhuman practice of draining the productive to subsidize the unproductive. An end must be put to the primordial notion that one’s life belongs to the tribe, to “the community,” and that the superlative wealth-creators must do penance for the sin of creating value.
And Ayn Rand is just the lady who can do it.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Dont see the problem with the guys point.

 

[JoeNormal]

Dont see the problem with the guys point.

One problem (among many) is that the guys this was written for and about are not providing any real value to the rest of society. They're not the innovators (unless innovation means finding new ways to screw people) and they're not the producers. Then in typical fashion after making absurd claims, they double down on the stupid.

 

[Conservative65]

Dont see the problem with the guys point.

One problem (among many) is that the guys this was written for and about are not providing any real value to the rest of society. They're not the innovators (unless innovation means finding new ways to screw people) and they're not the producers. Then in typical fashion after making absurd claims, they double down on the stupid.

Stupid doubles down on itself.

 

[AceRothstein]

Harry Binswanger should be placed in a burlap sack and beaten with reeds.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Dont see the problem with the guys point.

One problem (among many) is that the guys this was written for and about are not providing any real value to the rest of society. They're not the innovators (unless innovation means finding new ways to screw people) and they're not the producers. Then in typical fashion after making absurd claims, they double down on the stupid.

There you go thinking they owe you something because they're smarter than you.
The guy made some very valid points,just because they dont fit your ideals doesnt make em any less viable.

 

[JoeNormal]

Dont see the problem with the guys point.

One problem (among many) is that the guys this was written for and about are not providing any real value to the rest of society. They're not the innovators (unless innovation means finding new ways to screw people) and they're not the producers. Then in typical fashion after making absurd claims, they double down on the stupid.

There you go thinking they owe you something because they're smarter than you.
The guy made some very valid points,just because they dont fit your ideals doesnt make em any less viable.

Tell me what I'm missing. The vast majority of these guys didn't start the companies they're making bank on. They don't even know much about the development process for the product they're hawking. What great value do you see them creating?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Dont see the problem with the guys point.

One problem (among many) is that the guys this was written for and about are not providing any real value to the rest of society. They're not the innovators (unless innovation means finding new ways to screw people) and they're not the producers. Then in typical fashion after making absurd claims, they double down on the stupid.

There you go thinking they owe you something because they're smarter than you.
The guy made some very valid points,just because they dont fit your ideals doesnt make em any less viable.

Tell me what I'm missing. The vast majority of these guys didn't start the companies they're making bank on. They don't even know much about the development process for the product they're hawking. What great value do you see them creating?

Not sure what makes you think these people owe you or society anything other than paying taxes.

 

[JoeNormal]

Dont see the problem with the guys point.

One problem (among many) is that the guys this was written for and about are not providing any real value to the rest of society. They're not the innovators (unless innovation means finding new ways to screw people) and they're not the producers. Then in typical fashion after making absurd claims, they double down on the stupid.

There you go thinking they owe you something because they're smarter than you.
The guy made some very valid points,just because they dont fit your ideals doesnt make em any less viable.

Tell me what I'm missing. The vast majority of these guys didn't start the companies they're making bank on. They don't even know much about the development process for the product they're hawking. What great value do you see them creating?

Not sure what makes you think these people owe you or society anything other than paying taxes.

Maybe you haven't been paying attention to (not-so) recent events but they're sucking up the productivity gains that the rest of us are working our asses off to create. You down with that?

 

[JoeNormal]

Dont see the problem with the guys point.

One problem (among many) is that the guys this was written for and about are not providing any real value to the rest of society. They're not the innovators (unless innovation means finding new ways to screw people) and they're not the producers. Then in typical fashion after making absurd claims, they double down on the stupid.

Stupid doubles down on itself.

You sure do - frequently.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Dont see the problem with the guys point.

One problem (among many) is that the guys this was written for and about are not providing any real value to the rest of society. They're not the innovators (unless innovation means finding new ways to screw people) and they're not the producers. Then in typical fashion after making absurd claims, they double down on the stupid.

There you go thinking they owe you something because they're smarter than you.
The guy made some very valid points,just because they dont fit your ideals doesnt make em any less viable.

Tell me what I'm missing. The vast majority of these guys didn't start the companies they're making bank on. They don't even know much about the development process for the product they're hawking. What great value do you see them creating?

Not sure what makes you think these people owe you or society anything other than paying taxes.

Maybe you haven't been paying attention to (not-so) recent events but they're sucking up the productivity gains that the rest of us are working our asses off to create. You down with that?

Then I guess you better improve your value to the free market.
Oh....and I retired at 46,so yeah i'm down with that.

 

[JoeNormal]

One problem (among many) is that the guys this was written for and about are not providing any real value to the rest of society. They're not the innovators (unless innovation means finding new ways to screw people) and they're not the producers. Then in typical fashion after making absurd claims, they double down on the stupid.

There you go thinking they owe you something because they're smarter than you.
The guy made some very valid points,just because they dont fit your ideals doesnt make em any less viable.

Tell me what I'm missing. The vast majority of these guys didn't start the companies they're making bank on. They don't even know much about the development process for the product they're hawking. What great value do you see them creating?

Not sure what makes you think these people owe you or society anything other than paying taxes.

Maybe you haven't been paying attention to (not-so) recent events but they're sucking up the productivity gains that the rest of us are working our asses off to create. You down with that?

Then I guess you better improve your value to the free market.
Oh....and I retired at 46,so yeah i'm down with that.

There's nothing wrong with my skills. Two college degrees and I'm the generalist in my department. Everybody I work with has PhDs and MS degrees.

You sound like one of the taker douchebags that this article was written for.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

There you go thinking they owe you something because they're smarter than you.
The guy made some very valid points,just because they dont fit your ideals doesnt make em any less viable.

Tell me what I'm missing. The vast majority of these guys didn't start the companies they're making bank on. They don't even know much about the development process for the product they're hawking. What great value do you see them creating?

Not sure what makes you think these people owe you or society anything other than paying taxes.

Maybe you haven't been paying attention to (not-so) recent events but they're sucking up the productivity gains that the rest of us are working our asses off to create. You down with that?

Then I guess you better improve your value to the free market.
Oh....and I retired at 46,so yeah i'm down with that.

There's nothing wrong with my skills. Two college degrees and I'm the generalist in my department. Everybody I work with has PhDs and MS degrees.

You sound like one of the taker douchebags that this article was written for.

You sound like a whiner who majored in underwater basket weaving and liberal arts.

 

[JoeNormal]

Tell me what I'm missing. The vast majority of these guys didn't start the companies they're making bank on. They don't even know much about the development process for the product they're hawking. What great value do you see them creating?

Not sure what makes you think these people owe you or society anything other than paying taxes.

Maybe you haven't been paying attention to (not-so) recent events but they're sucking up the productivity gains that the rest of us are working our asses off to create. You down with that?

Then I guess you better improve your value to the free market.
Oh....and I retired at 46,so yeah i'm down with that.

There's nothing wrong with my skills. Two college degrees and I'm the generalist in my department. Everybody I work with has PhDs and MS degrees.

You sound like one of the taker douchebags that this article was written for.

You sound like a whiner who majored in underwater basket weaving and liberal arts.

I'm actually in a super-technical field. I had a job interview at a startup where I was interviewed by three of their top engineers. One was a former Goldman Sachs partner (I wondered if he was one of the guys who came up with their incomprehensible new investment products). The GS guy was the only one who didn't seem to understand what I was talking about.

You guys aren't nearly as bright as you think you are.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Not sure what makes you think these people owe you or society anything other than paying taxes.

Maybe you haven't been paying attention to (not-so) recent events but they're sucking up the productivity gains that the rest of us are working our asses off to create. You down with that?

Then I guess you better improve your value to the free market.
Oh....and I retired at 46,so yeah i'm down with that.

There's nothing wrong with my skills. Two college degrees and I'm the generalist in my department. Everybody I work with has PhDs and MS degrees.

You sound like one of the taker douchebags that this article was written for.

You sound like a whiner who majored in underwater basket weaving and liberal arts.

I'm actually in a super-technical field. I had a job interview at a startup where I was interviewed by three of their top engineers. One was a former Goldman Sachs partner (I wondered if he was one of the guys who came up with their incomprehensible new investment products). The GS guy was the only one who didn't seem to understand what I was talking about.

You guys aren't nearly as bright as you think you are.

Let me know when you retire at 46......

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

I've never seen a more douchy article. The Republican pinheads will love it.

Give Back? Yes, It's Time For The 99% To Give Back To The 1%
​

Actually, it's a very good article and a good "fuck off" to the douche-bag collectivists.

 

[JoeNormal]

Maybe you haven't been paying attention to (not-so) recent events but they're sucking up the productivity gains that the rest of us are working our asses off to create. You down with that?

Then I guess you better improve your value to the free market.
Oh....and I retired at 46,so yeah i'm down with that.

There's nothing wrong with my skills. Two college degrees and I'm the generalist in my department. Everybody I work with has PhDs and MS degrees.

You sound like one of the taker douchebags that this article was written for.

You sound like a whiner who majored in underwater basket weaving and liberal arts.

I'm actually in a super-technical field. I had a job interview at a startup where I was interviewed by three of their top engineers. One was a former Goldman Sachs partner (I wondered if he was one of the guys who came up with their incomprehensible new investment products). The GS guy was the only one who didn't seem to understand what I was talking about.

You guys aren't nearly as bright as you think you are.

Let me know when you retire at 46......

Hard to do unless you're either lucky or a sociopath.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Then I guess you better improve your value to the free market.
Oh....and I retired at 46,so yeah i'm down with that.

There's nothing wrong with my skills. Two college degrees and I'm the generalist in my department. Everybody I work with has PhDs and MS degrees.

You sound like one of the taker douchebags that this article was written for.

You sound like a whiner who majored in underwater basket weaving and liberal arts.

I'm actually in a super-technical field. I had a job interview at a startup where I was interviewed by three of their top engineers. One was a former Goldman Sachs partner (I wondered if he was one of the guys who came up with their incomprehensible new investment products). The GS guy was the only one who didn't seem to understand what I was talking about.

You guys aren't nearly as bright as you think you are.

Let me know when you retire at 46......

Hard to do unless you're either lucky or a sociopath.

Not really. Just because you cant manage it you want to label it as some kind of psychosis.
Which of course is your way of making yourself feel better about your failures in life.
Elementary stuff really.