Red flag laws

[g5000]

The next time a gun prohibitionist says we need red flag laws tell them all 50 states already have them

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And yet no one used the New York red flag law to stop the Buffalo shooter.

 

[g5000]

"Take the guns first. Go through due process second, I like taking the guns early." - Donald J. Trump

 

[bigrebnc1775]

"Take the guns first. Go through due process second, I like taking the guns early." - Donald J. Trump

And he back off that position just about as fast as he said it.

 

[g5000]

California has one of the most expansive red-flag laws in the country, allowing anyone to petition for a court order to take guns from a high-risk individual. There is concrete data to show it is effective: One case study from 2019 found that the law averted at least 21 potential mass shootings, based on credible threats.

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One study from Indiana found that for every 10 to 20 gun-removal orders, one suicide was averted. Another study found Indiana saw a 7.5 percent reduction in its firearm suicides rate in the 10 years after its red-flag law became took effect. Connecticut, in the same study, saw its rate fall 14 percent.

These laws won’t catch every mass shooter or prevent every suicide. They are fundamentally limited by how many people know to use them. But implemented properly, they could do some real good. A 2019 analysis from the U.S. Secret Service found that in 77 percent of school shootings, at least one person knew of the perpetrator’s troubling behavior before the attack.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/06/02/gun-control-solutions-that-work/

 

[g5000]

And he back off that position just about as fast as he said it.

Whenever Trump's true inner New York limousine liberal breaks through, his handlers quickly correct him. Just like when he said he was pro-choice, and then he had to correct himself, but then he still revealed he had no clue what actual pro-lifers think and had to course correct again the next day.


"I generally oppose gun control, but I support the ban on assault weapons and I support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun." - Donald Trump,The America We Deserve

 

[g5000]

Trump tells senators 'You're afraid of the NRA' | CNN Politics

President Donald Trump asked Sen. Pat Toomey, a Pennsylvania Republican who's worked on a bill to strengthen background checks for gun purchases, whether he left a proposal to raise the gun purchasing age to 21 out of his measure because senators are "afraid of the NRA."

www.cnn.com

In an exchange during a meeting of a bipartisan group of senators at the White House, Trump asked Sens. Joe Manchin of West Virginia and Toomey if their background check bill they authored in the aftermath of a shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in 2012 included a provision that would have raised the age at which individuals could purchase rifles from 18 to 21.

Toomey said it did not.

“You know why? Because you’re afraid of the NRA,” Trump said.


That was four years ago. Several mass shootings could have been prevented.

 

[XponentialChaos]

If you're a danger you should be committed. But thanks for pointing out that red flag laws are just about gun confiscation.and not safety.

Explain that to the people who can’t afford it.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Explain that to the people who can’t afford it.

So it's not about safety just guns?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Whenever Trump's true inner New York limousine liberal breaks through, his handlers quickly correct him. Just like when he said he was pro-choice, and then he had to correct himself, but then he still revealed he had no clue what actual pro-lifers think and had to course correct again the next day.


"I generally oppose gun control, but I support the ban on assault weapons and I support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun." - Donald Trump,The America We Deserve

He spoke out of emotion. But backed off

 

[XponentialChaos]

So it's not about safety just guns?

I just said it’s about money.

M.O.N.E.Y.

It’s like talking to a brick wall.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

I just said it’s about money.

M.O.N.E.Y.

It’s like talking to a brick wall.

No it is not red flag laws are all about gun confiscation.

 

[XponentialChaos]

He spoke out of emotion. But backed off

He also favored red flag laws.

Trump: ‘Take the guns first, go through due process second’

President Trump on Wednesday voiced support for confiscating guns from certain individuals deemed to be dangerous, even if it violates due process rights. “I like taking the guns early, like in thi…

thehill.com

His handlers corrected him afterward.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

He also favored red flag laws.

Trump: ‘Take the guns first, go through due process second’

President Trump on Wednesday voiced support for confiscating guns from certain individuals deemed to be dangerous, even if it violates due process rights. “I like taking the guns early, like in thi…

thehill.com

His handlers corrected him afterward.

I said he back off brick wall

 

[g5000]

He spoke out of emotion. But backed off

Trump is, and always has been, pro gun control.

 

[XponentialChaos]

No it is not red flag laws are all about gun confiscation.

Temporarily, yes. Admitting someone costs money, however.

Both seem like viable options in certain circumstances.

 

[XponentialChaos]

I said he back off brick wall

English please.

 

[g5000]

AS PRESIDENT, Trump asked the Republicans if they included a provision to raise the age from 18 to 21 to purchase a gun in their proposed gun law.

The Republicans replied they had not.

Trump said that was because they were afraid of the NRA.

Trump clearly is in favor of stronger gun control.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

English please.

Brick wall I said he backed off

 

[XponentialChaos]

Brick wall I said he backed off

You mean he was redirected by his handlers.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

You mean he was redirected by his handlers.

No he was redirected by his supporters Twitter works both ways