Red State Voucher Schools: The Right To Be Ignorant

[Avatar4321]

The answer of "don't live there" does nothing to help the kids that are taught this bullshit in the first place. Ignoring the fact that kids are being taught lies is not a virtue.

If you don't want your kids taught bullshit, don't teach them from Mother Jones....

I agree. Teach them to ask questions and honestly look at primary sources instead of propaganda pieces.

 

[Avatar4321]

It's turned off because ASSHOLES like you go around neg repping for no good reason and not using it the way it was intended.

So.........FU-Q

.

In other words, people are honest with you and you dont want to deal with that.

 

[rdean]

ok you are talking about Tech in schools NOT cutting Technology out in the world....right?....

There is some misconception here.

Apple computer is the master of marketing. The technology they offer is mediocre at best. To promote substandard Macs, Apple has, from the 80's, donated huge numbers of Apple products to public schools. The idea was that this would entice parents to buy Apple to be compatible, and would train children to use Apple rather than Microsoft paradigms. While a Mac costs double or triple what it's worth, schools virtually never pay that price. The computers are either from a grant, or sharply discounted to public schools.

At the time Apple owned the lion's share of the market, they did have the best technology, especially in graphics and with their icon based interface. Apple would even epoxy their boards to keep anyone from copying them. Reverse engineering would destroy the components.

Starting with the 8086, the microprocessor was licensed and clones flooded the market. Once icon based Windows came out and Pentium based processors hit the market, it was game over for Apple.

It was smart of Apple to give computers to schools, but today's GOP might consider that "socialism" and therefore, "evil".

 

[Avatar4321]

Those who can......teach

Those who can't teach pass laws and try to dictate to those who are.

That's the thing about you Quantum.

I guess that explains Democrat policy. Pass laws an try to dictate what to teach. Because you cant teach.

Teaching involves students actually learning. Our current public school system clearly lacks alot of teachers. At least according to your standards. because students arent learning.

 

[Avatar4321]

ok you are talking about Tech in schools NOT cutting Technology out in the world....right?....

There is some misconception here.

Apple computer is the master of marketing. The technology they offer is mediocre at best. To promote substandard Macs, Apple has, from the 80's, donated huge numbers of Apple products to public schools. The idea was that this would entice parents to buy Apple to be compatible, and would train children to use Apple rather than Microsoft paradigms. While a Mac costs double or triple what it's worth, schools virtually never pay that price. The computers are either from a grant, or sharply discounted to public schools.

At the time Apple owned the lion's share of the market, they did have the best technology, especially in graphics and with their icon based interface. Apple would even epoxy their boards to keep anyone from copying them. Reverse engineering would destroy the components.

Starting with the 8086, the microprocessor was licensed and clones flooded the market. Once icon based Windows came out and Pentium based processors hit the market, it was game over for Apple.

It was smart of Apple to give computers to schools, but today's GOP might consider that "socialism" and therefore, "evil".

Shocking you still cant admit that it's the GOP who advocate personal charity. It's the Dems that advocate legalized Robbery.

 

[DaGoose]

It's turned off because ASSHOLES like you go around neg repping for no good reason and not using it the way it was intended.

So.........FU-Q

.

In other words, people are honest with you and you dont want to deal with that.

Honesty I can deal with. Debate I can deal with. Smacking people around with neg reps are cowardly. By turning it off I now force people to face up to me instead of hiding behind the reps.

How many times have you tip-toed around someone you disagreed with that had a lot of rep power so as to not anger them? Plenty I'll bet.

 

[rdean]

The answer of "don't live there" does nothing to help the kids that are taught this bullshit in the first place. Ignoring the fact that kids are being taught lies is not a virtue.

If you don't want your kids taught bullshit, don't teach them from Mother Jones....

I agree. Teach them to ask questions and honestly look at primary sources instead of propaganda pieces.

About the Party :: TexasGOP - Republican Party of Texas

We oppose the teaching of Higher Order Thinking Skills (HOTS) (values clarification), critical thinking skills and similar programs that are simply a relabeling of Outcome-Based Education (OBE) (mastery learning) which focus on behavior modification and have the purpose of challenging the student’s fixed beliefs and undermining parental authority.

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Yea, don't let them question those "fixed" beliefs.

 

[DaGoose]

Those who can......teach

Those who can't teach pass laws and try to dictate to those who are.

That's the thing about you Quantum.

I guess that explains Democrat policy. Pass laws an try to dictate what to teach. Because you cant teach.

Teaching involves students actually learning. Our current public school system clearly lacks alot of teachers. At least according to your standards. because students arent learning.

If a school system is lacking in teachers it's usually because the pay is low, the working conditions suck, morons who don't know what it's like to teach try to dictate policy and they have to put up with asshole parents who say their kids never do anything wrong.

 

[rdean]

There is some misconception here.

Apple computer is the master of marketing. The technology they offer is mediocre at best. To promote substandard Macs, Apple has, from the 80's, donated huge numbers of Apple products to public schools. The idea was that this would entice parents to buy Apple to be compatible, and would train children to use Apple rather than Microsoft paradigms. While a Mac costs double or triple what it's worth, schools virtually never pay that price. The computers are either from a grant, or sharply discounted to public schools.

At the time Apple owned the lion's share of the market, they did have the best technology, especially in graphics and with their icon based interface. Apple would even epoxy their boards to keep anyone from copying them. Reverse engineering would destroy the components.

Starting with the 8086, the microprocessor was licensed and clones flooded the market. Once icon based Windows came out and Pentium based processors hit the market, it was game over for Apple.

It was smart of Apple to give computers to schools, but today's GOP might consider that "socialism" and therefore, "evil".

Shocking you still cant admit that it's the GOP who advocate personal charity. It's the Dems that advocate legalized Robbery.

Unemployment benefits: not until Bush tax cuts pass, Senate GOP says - CSMonitor.com

 

[Obamanation]

OMG - this is retarded. It's a Mother Jones rant --- there is NO TRUTH TO IT WHATSOEVER! Just a misrepresentation of truth. It's the only thing liberals ever have to work with. They take truths and twist them to say things that are supposed to be damning...

It really is pathetic!!!

 

[DaGoose]

OMG - this is retarded. It's a Mother Jones rant --- there is NO TRUTH TO IT WHATSOEVER! Just a misrepresentation of truth. It's the only thing liberals ever have to work with. They take truths and twist them to say things that are supposed to be damning...

It really is pathetic!!!

Better than the bullshit lies that FOX news dangle out there that you Neo-Cons swallow hook, line and sinker.

REEL THEM IN!!!!!

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Meanwhile in Progressive run NY Public education, we pay $18,000 per student so the system can continue to practice Intellectual Pedophilia: 1/3 of high schoolers don't graduate (40% for minorities) and of the ones who "Graduate" the vast majority need remedial education to function at community college level

 

[Quantum Windbag]

No wonder the "Red States" are a bit slower than the "Blue States". Look at what they teach these kids in "Voucher Schools"........

1. Dinosaurs and humans probably hung out

2. Dragons were totally real

3. "God used the Trail of Tears to bring many Indians to Christ

4. Africa needs religion

5. Slave masters were nice guys

6. The KKK was A-OK

7. The Great Depression wasn't as bad as the liberals made it sound

8. SCOTUS enslaved fetuses

9. The Red Scare isn't over yet

10. Mark Twain and Emily Dickinson were a couple of hacks

11. Abstract algebra is too dang complicated

12. Gay people "have no more claims to special rights than child molesters or rapists

13. "Global environmentalists have said and written enough to leave no doubt that their goal is to destroy the prosperous economies of the world's richest nations

14. Globalization is a precursor to rapture

14 Wacky "Facts" Kids Will Learn in Louisiana's Voucher Schools | Mother Jones

Sholdn't the title of that article be "14 Wacky Claims About what Schools Teach if we don't let Unions Have Complete Control?" Are you aware that some of the best high schools in the country at preparing students for college are private religious schools?

Those who can......teach

Those who can't teach pass laws and try to dictate to those who are.

That's the thing about you Quantum.

I think you got that quote wrong.

Prov. People who are able to do something well can do that thing for a living, while people who are not able to do anything that well make a living by teaching. (Used to disparage teachers. From George Bernard Shaw's Man and Superman.) Bob: I'm so discouraged. My writing teacher told me my novel is hopeless. Jane: Don't listen to her, Bob. Remember: those who can, do; those who can't, teach.

http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/Those+who+can,+do;+those+who+can't,+teach

By the way, my point was that the article is a complete lie, not that the laws are right.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

ok you are talking about Tech in schools NOT cutting Technology out in the world....right?....

There is some misconception here.

Apple computer is the master of marketing. The technology they offer is mediocre at best. To promote substandard Macs, Apple has, from the 80's, donated huge numbers of Apple products to public schools. The idea was that this would entice parents to buy Apple to be compatible, and would train children to use Apple rather than Microsoft paradigms. While a Mac costs double or triple what it's worth, schools virtually never pay that price. The computers are either from a grant, or sharply discounted to public schools.

At the time Apple owned the lion's share of the market, they did have the best technology, especially in graphics and with their icon based interface. Apple would even epoxy their boards to keep anyone from copying them. Reverse engineering would destroy the components.

Starting with the 8086, the microprocessor was licensed and clones flooded the market. Once icon based Windows came out and Pentium based processors hit the market, it was game over for Apple.

It was smart of Apple to give computers to schools, but today's GOP might consider that "socialism" and therefore, "evil".

Apple never owned the lion's share of the market.

Last time I looked, you claimed that the GOP liked rich corporations, why would they hate Apple?

 

[Harry Dresden]

and 90% of Republicans are White....

So only 6% of scientists are White?

Dayum....

No, only 6% of scientists are Republican. But I suspect MORE than 90% of Republicans are white. Especially after that last election.

are you serious?.....holy shit!.....how come you have never said this before?.....

 

[Avatar4321]

Apple never owned the lion's share of the market.

Last time I looked, you claimed that the GOP liked rich corporations, why would they hate Apple?

He is creating a straw man. He is trying to claim we would hate them because they were charitable donating computers to schools. We would have no problem with that. Even though I am not sure whether the donations were purely altruistic. (Thankfully, that's not my place to decide).

See, he is trying to set up the argument that since we oppose politicians taking other peoples money and giving that money to their special interests (Which probably includes him in some way), we are opposed to individuals or groups voluntarily giving of themselves.

He is trying to confuse and thus decieve people about what we actually believe.

 

[Avatar4321]

OMG - this is retarded. It's a Mother Jones rant --- there is NO TRUTH TO IT WHATSOEVER! Just a misrepresentation of truth. It's the only thing liberals ever have to work with. They take truths and twist them to say things that are supposed to be damning...

It really is pathetic!!!

Better than the bullshit lies that FOX news dangle out there that you Neo-Cons swallow hook, line and sinker.

REEL THEM IN!!!!!

Funny, I dont watch Fox much. probably watch CNN as much.

Just because people can think for themselves and reach the same conclusion doesn't mean we are watching Fox.

It just means people can think. An ability sorely lacking in our current educational programs.

 

[Harry Dresden]

No wonder the "Red States" are a bit slower than the "Blue States". Look at what they teach these kids in "Voucher Schools"........

1. Dinosaurs and humans probably hung out

2. Dragons were totally real

3. "God used the Trail of Tears to bring many Indians to Christ

4. Africa needs religion

5. Slave masters were nice guys

6. The KKK was A-OK

7. The Great Depression wasn't as bad as the liberals made it sound

8. SCOTUS enslaved fetuses

9. The Red Scare isn't over yet

10. Mark Twain and Emily Dickinson were a couple of hacks

11. Abstract algebra is too dang complicated

12. Gay people "have no more claims to special rights than child molesters or rapists

13. "Global environmentalists have said and written enough to leave no doubt that their goal is to destroy the prosperous economies of the world's richest nations

14. Globalization is a precursor to rapture

14 Wacky "Facts" Kids Will Learn in Louisiana's Voucher Schools | Mother Jones

Your so called facts are as usual a list of lies made up by a lying libtard. Better being taught the truth of the bible then go to public school and filled with lies while being indoctrinated to obamaland.

until you prove what is written in the Bible is absolute proof.....your kid maybe learning lies there too.....and it is kind of an indoctrination too.....

 

[Harry Dresden]

ok you are talking about Tech in schools NOT cutting Technology out in the world....right?....

There is some misconception here.

Apple computer is the master of marketing. The technology they offer is mediocre at best. To promote substandard Macs, Apple has, from the 80's, donated huge numbers of Apple products to public schools. The idea was that this would entice parents to buy Apple to be compatible, and would train children to use Apple rather than Microsoft paradigms. While a Mac costs double or triple what it's worth, schools virtually never pay that price. The computers are either from a grant, or sharply discounted to public schools.

At the time Apple owned the lion's share of the market, they did have the best technology, especially in graphics and with their icon based interface. Apple would even epoxy their boards to keep anyone from copying them. Reverse engineering would destroy the components.

Starting with the 8086, the microprocessor was licensed and clones flooded the market. Once icon based Windows came out and Pentium based processors hit the market, it was game over for Apple.

It was smart of Apple to give computers to schools, but today's GOP might consider that "socialism" and therefore, "evil".

no....i think they would call that someone donating their product to the schools....

 

[Obamanation]

OMG - this is retarded. It's a Mother Jones rant --- there is NO TRUTH TO IT WHATSOEVER! Just a misrepresentation of truth. It's the only thing liberals ever have to work with. They take truths and twist them to say things that are supposed to be damning...

It really is pathetic!!!

Better than the bullshit lies that FOX news dangle out there that you Neo-Cons swallow hook, line and sinker.

REEL THEM IN!!!!!

Oh, I see. So because it's OK for all of MSM to twist the truth to fit Obama's talking points because they feel FOX news does it too...

Don't your get sick of being manipulated?