Refute This!

[skye]

The universe came from the Big Bang. What was before that and how the BB came to be is still unknown. But at least scientists are looking, as opposed to theists, who aren't even looking for any proof.

As I have stated multiple times already, nothing physical can create itself. Also, consider this. Space and time are a part of the physical universe. So where and when did the BB happen if there was no where or when yet? No matter what theories scientists come up with, they cannot escape the reality that the universe requires a cause. That cause must be eternal since you cannot have an infinite regression of causes. What does that leave us? The only rational explanation is a Creator.

The universe does not require a cause. The laws of physics explain the BB quite well. Gravity pulls the matter in, and at a certain point the mass causes an explosion sending the matter outward. The fact that you claim nothing is eternal does not change that.

So you just simply ignore the law of cause and effect? And where did the laws of physics come from? No matter what crazy ideas you guys come up with, you cannot even begin to explain why anything exists. You're clueless, but refuse to admit it.

And it's so easy for you to say God did it. No need to bother trying to learn anything more at that point.

My faith in God is based on evidence. What evidence do you have for evolution? I suggest you watch the video I posted, evolution is dead. It proves that evolution as well as abiogenesis is a false narrative.

your avatar is stupid is like a smiling stupid person....

hate it sorry

 

[RWNJ]

Prove beyond a shadow of doubt that it was your particular God that is 'responsible for everything that exists'.

I don't have to prove anything. How about you prove what atheist scientist say? You can't. It all comes down to faith, no matter what you say. Science doean't have the answers. Only speculation.

Isn't that handy? YOu don't have to prove anything, and yet you require that science prove every single detail.

That's my point entirely. Science can't prove anything. They have no clue why energy and matter exist, and they never will. But you just take their word for it. But that is no surprise. After all, science is your religion.

 

[RWNJ]

As I have stated multiple times already, nothing physical can create itself. Also, consider this. Space and time are a part of the physical universe. So where and when did the BB happen if there was no where or when yet? No matter what theories scientists come up with, they cannot escape the reality that the universe requires a cause. That cause must be eternal since you cannot have an infinite regression of causes. What does that leave us? The only rational explanation is a Creator.

The universe does not require a cause. The laws of physics explain the BB quite well. Gravity pulls the matter in, and at a certain point the mass causes an explosion sending the matter outward. The fact that you claim nothing is eternal does not change that.

So you just simply ignore the law of cause and effect? And where did the laws of physics come from? No matter what crazy ideas you guys come up with, you cannot even begin to explain why anything exists. You're clueless, but refuse to admit it.

And it's so easy for you to say God did it. No need to bother trying to learn anything more at that point.

My faith in God is based on evidence. What evidence do you have for evolution? I suggest you watch the video I posted, evolution is dead. It proves that evolution as well as abiogenesis is a false narrative.

your avatar is stupid is like a smiling stupid person....

hate it sorry

Did you have something intelligent to say.Take your time. I'll wait.

 

[BULLDOG]

The universe came from the Big Bang. What was before that and how the BB came to be is still unknown. But at least scientists are looking, as opposed to theists, who aren't even looking for any proof.

As I have stated multiple times already, nothing physical can create itself. Also, consider this. Space and time are a part of the physical universe. So where and when did the BB happen if there was no where or when yet? No matter what theories scientists come up with, they cannot escape the reality that the universe requires a cause. That cause must be eternal since you cannot have an infinite regression of causes. What does that leave us? The only rational explanation is a Creator.

The universe does not require a cause. The laws of physics explain the BB quite well. Gravity pulls the matter in, and at a certain point the mass causes an explosion sending the matter outward. The fact that you claim nothing is eternal does not change that.

So you just simply ignore the law of cause and effect? And where did the laws of physics come from? No matter what crazy ideas you guys come up with, you cannot even begin to explain why anything exists. You're clueless, but refuse to admit it.

And it's so easy for you to say God did it. No need to bother trying to learn anything more at that point.

My faith in God is based on evidence. What evidence do you have for evolution? I suggest you watch the video I posted, evolution is dead. It proves that evolution as well as abiogenesis is a false narrative.

That might be funny, if it's not too long. link?

 

[skye]

The universe does not require a cause. The laws of physics explain the BB quite well. Gravity pulls the matter in, and at a certain point the mass causes an explosion sending the matter outward. The fact that you claim nothing is eternal does not change that.

So you just simply ignore the law of cause and effect? And where did the laws of physics come from? No matter what crazy ideas you guys come up with, you cannot even begin to explain why anything exists. You're clueless, but refuse to admit it.

And it's so easy for you to say God did it. No need to bother trying to learn anything more at that point.

My faith in God is based on evidence. What evidence do you have for evolution? I suggest you watch the video I posted, evolution is dead. It proves that evolution as well as abiogenesis is a false narrative.

your avatar is stupid is like a smiling stupid person....

hate it sorry

Did you have something intelligent to say.Take your time. I'll wait.

no

dont wait

you are totally nothing....you aint there!

 

[BULLDOG]

So you just simply ignore the law of cause and effect? And where did the laws of physics come from? No matter what crazy ideas you guys come up with, you cannot even begin to explain why anything exists. You're clueless, but refuse to admit it.

And it's so easy for you to say God did it. No need to bother trying to learn anything more at that point.

My faith in God is based on evidence. What evidence do you have for evolution? I suggest you watch the video I posted, evolution is dead. It proves that evolution as well as abiogenesis is a false narrative.

your avatar is stupid is like a smiling stupid person....

hate it sorry

Did you have something intelligent to say.Take your time. I'll wait.

no

dont wait

you are totally nothing....you aint there!

Play nice.

 

[skye]

And it's so easy for you to say God did it. No need to bother trying to learn anything more at that point.

My faith in God is based on evidence. What evidence do you have for evolution? I suggest you watch the video I posted, evolution is dead. It proves that evolution as well as abiogenesis is a false narrative.

your avatar is stupid is like a smiling stupid person....

hate it sorry

Did you have something intelligent to say.Take your time. I'll wait.

no

dont wait

you are totally nothing....you aint there!

Play nice.

No I wont

 

[RWNJ]

So you just simply ignore the law of cause and effect? And where did the laws of physics come from? No matter what crazy ideas you guys come up with, you cannot even begin to explain why anything exists. You're clueless, but refuse to admit it.

And it's so easy for you to say God did it. No need to bother trying to learn anything more at that point.

My faith in God is based on evidence. What evidence do you have for evolution? I suggest you watch the video I posted, evolution is dead. It proves that evolution as well as abiogenesis is a false narrative.

your avatar is stupid is like a smiling stupid person....

hate it sorry

Did you have something intelligent to say.Take your time. I'll wait.

no

dont wait

you are totally nothing....you aint there!

Congratulations. You just made it onto my ignore list. Quite an honor since there are so few who have made it. You should be proud. Good riddance.

 

[skye]

And it's so easy for you to say God did it. No need to bother trying to learn anything more at that point.

My faith in God is based on evidence. What evidence do you have for evolution? I suggest you watch the video I posted, evolution is dead. It proves that evolution as well as abiogenesis is a false narrative.

your avatar is stupid is like a smiling stupid person....

hate it sorry

Did you have something intelligent to say.Take your time. I'll wait.

no

dont wait

you are totally nothing....you aint there!

Congratulations. You just made it onto my ignore list. Quite an honor since there are so few who have made it. You should be proud. Good riddance.

Freaking idiot. ^^^ lol

like anybody cares?????

 

[RWNJ]

And it's so easy for you to say God did it. No need to bother trying to learn anything more at that point.

My faith in God is based on evidence. What evidence do you have for evolution? I suggest you watch the video I posted, evolution is dead. It proves that evolution as well as abiogenesis is a false narrative.

your avatar is stupid is like a smiling stupid person....

hate it sorry

Did you have something intelligent to say.Take your time. I'll wait.

no

dont wait

you are totally nothing....you aint there!

Congratulations. You just made it onto my ignore list. Quite an honor since there are so few who have made it. You should be proud. Good riddance.

I'm sorry. Did you say something? Oh, that's right. I just placed you on my ignore list. I can't read your pointless BS anymore. Too bad you were not into intelligent discussion. Sucks to be you. Good riddance.

 

[WinterBorn]

The universe came from the Big Bang. What was before that and how the BB came to be is still unknown. But at least scientists are looking, as opposed to theists, who aren't even looking for any proof.

As I have stated multiple times already, nothing physical can create itself. Also, consider this. Space and time are a part of the physical universe. So where and when did the BB happen if there was no where or when yet? No matter what theories scientists come up with, they cannot escape the reality that the universe requires a cause. That cause must be eternal since you cannot have an infinite regression of causes. What does that leave us? The only rational explanation is a Creator.

The universe does not require a cause. The laws of physics explain the BB quite well. Gravity pulls the matter in, and at a certain point the mass causes an explosion sending the matter outward. The fact that you claim nothing is eternal does not change that.

So you just simply ignore the law of cause and effect? And where did the laws of physics come from? No matter what crazy ideas you guys come up with, you cannot even begin to explain why anything exists. You're clueless, but refuse to admit it.

And it's so easy for you to say God did it. No need to bother trying to learn anything more at that point.

My faith in God is based on evidence. What evidence do you have for evolution? I suggest you watch the video I posted, evolution is dead. It proves that evolution as well as abiogenesis is a false narrative.

What evidence do you have that would stand up to the scrutiny you put evolution under? What actual evidence do you have?

 

[WinterBorn]

The universe came from the Big Bang. What was before that and how the BB came to be is still unknown. But at least scientists are looking, as opposed to theists, who aren't even looking for any proof.

As I have stated multiple times already, nothing physical can create itself. Also, consider this. Space and time are a part of the physical universe. So where and when did the BB happen if there was no where or when yet? No matter what theories scientists come up with, they cannot escape the reality that the universe requires a cause. That cause must be eternal since you cannot have an infinite regression of causes. What does that leave us? The only rational explanation is a Creator.

The universe does not require a cause. The laws of physics explain the BB quite well. Gravity pulls the matter in, and at a certain point the mass causes an explosion sending the matter outward. The fact that you claim nothing is eternal does not change that.

So you just simply ignore the law of cause and effect? And where did the laws of physics come from? No matter what crazy ideas you guys come up with, you cannot even begin to explain why anything exists. You're clueless, but refuse to admit it.

I have not ignored cause & effect.
There is far more proof in the science we are explaining to you than there is of the existence of God.

WHat proof? Let's see it.

There has been evidence pointing to evolution. That has been discussed (and you were corrected numerous times). What proof do you have that God exists?

 

[WinterBorn]

My faith in God is based on evidence. What evidence do you have for evolution? I suggest you watch the video I posted, evolution is dead. It proves that evolution as well as abiogenesis is a false narrative.

your avatar is stupid is like a smiling stupid person....

hate it sorry

Did you have something intelligent to say.Take your time. I'll wait.

no

dont wait

you are totally nothing....you aint there!

Congratulations. You just made it onto my ignore list. Quite an honor since there are so few who have made it. You should be proud. Good riddance.

I'm sorry. Did you say something? Oh, that's right. I just placed you on my ignore list. I can't read your pointless BS anymore. Too bad you were not into intelligent discussion. Sucks to be you. Good riddance.

She accepts your unconditional surrender and says "Have a nice day".

 

[Asclepias]

God is the only rational explanation for why anything exists at all. Science has tried to come up with explanations that exclude a Creator, but they are nothing but guesses. Many, if not all of them, defy science and logic. For instance, some scientists claim that energy has always existed. This is impossible since nothing physical can be eternal. It violates the law of cause and effect. That leaves us with the question of where energy came from. The problem is that it is impossible for something physical to create itself. The only reasonable answer is that someone created it. And don't even bother insulting our intelligence by asking who created God. For one, God is not physical. The laws of physics do not apply to Him. He created them. Bottom line. The universe requires a Creator. Nothing else makes any sense.

You white people are weird. Science and spirituality go hand and hand. Whites separated them and now its a forum topic on which one is real. God damn yall are stupid.

 

[WinterBorn]

Prove beyond a shadow of doubt that it was your particular God that is 'responsible for everything that exists'.

I don't have to prove anything. How about you prove what atheist scientist say? You can't. It all comes down to faith, no matter what you say. Science doean't have the answers. Only speculation.

Isn't that handy? YOu don't have to prove anything, and yet you require that science prove every single detail.

That's my point entirely. Science can't prove anything. They have no clue why energy and matter exist, and they never will. But you just take their word for it. But that is no surprise. After all, science is your religion.

Why? There is no "why" to the existence of energy and matter. There does not need to be a "why". They exist and the follow laws.

 

[Asclepias]

God is the only rational explanation for why anything exists at all. Science has tried to come up with explanations that exclude a Creator, but they are nothing but guesses.

How is God not a guess?

Also, which God?

Yahweh? Krishna? Allah? Odin? Zeus? Ik Onkar? (That's the God of the Sihks, the world's fourth largest religion, BTW.)


So imagine you spend your whole life worshiping Jesus, and then you get to heaven and its' the Sihk God without a gender who is in charge.

The Bible has never been proven wrong about anything. There are also no contradiction about doctrine. Think about that. It was written by about 40 different authors over a 1500 year period and they all agree with each other. Do you have any clue just how impossible that is?

Not true. The bible says jews were in the desert for 40 years but there is not a trace of evidence backing that up.

 

[RWNJ]

As I have stated multiple times already, nothing physical can create itself. Also, consider this. Space and time are a part of the physical universe. So where and when did the BB happen if there was no where or when yet? No matter what theories scientists come up with, they cannot escape the reality that the universe requires a cause. That cause must be eternal since you cannot have an infinite regression of causes. What does that leave us? The only rational explanation is a Creator.

The universe does not require a cause. The laws of physics explain the BB quite well. Gravity pulls the matter in, and at a certain point the mass causes an explosion sending the matter outward. The fact that you claim nothing is eternal does not change that.

So you just simply ignore the law of cause and effect? And where did the laws of physics come from? No matter what crazy ideas you guys come up with, you cannot even begin to explain why anything exists. You're clueless, but refuse to admit it.

I have not ignored cause & effect.
There is far more proof in the science we are explaining to you than there is of the existence of God.

WHat proof? Let's see it.

There has been evidence pointing to evolution. That has been discussed (and you were corrected numerous times). What proof do you have that God exists?

WHat proof do you have that He doesn't? You demand proof, yet reject anything I say. I have offered proof of my claimes about the existence of matter and energy. Let's recap. Scientists claim that energy has always existed. How do they know this? They simply assume because man is incapable of creating or destroying it. A baseless assumption since, if God does exist, He is capable of doing so. Scientists have no clue how or why energy exists. This is a fact. So they make up a story to explain it. I also mentioned how nothing physical can be eternal, with no beginning and no end. It defies all science and logic. If something exists, it's because someone caused it to exist. The only one capable of such a feat is God, who exists outside of time and space. Science doesn't have any answers for this. Only fairy tales.

 

[RWNJ]

Prove beyond a shadow of doubt that it was your particular God that is 'responsible for everything that exists'.

I don't have to prove anything. How about you prove what atheist scientist say? You can't. It all comes down to faith, no matter what you say. Science doean't have the answers. Only speculation.

Isn't that handy? YOu don't have to prove anything, and yet you require that science prove every single detail.

That's my point entirely. Science can't prove anything. They have no clue why energy and matter exist, and they never will. But you just take their word for it. But that is no surprise. After all, science is your religion.

Why? There is no "why" to the existence of energy and matter. There does not need to be a "why". They exist and the follow laws.

And where did those laws come from?

 

[RWNJ]

God is the only rational explanation for why anything exists at all. Science has tried to come up with explanations that exclude a Creator, but they are nothing but guesses.

How is God not a guess?

Also, which God?

Yahweh? Krishna? Allah? Odin? Zeus? Ik Onkar? (That's the God of the Sihks, the world's fourth largest religion, BTW.)


So imagine you spend your whole life worshiping Jesus, and then you get to heaven and its' the Sihk God without a gender who is in charge.

The Bible has never been proven wrong about anything. There are also no contradiction about doctrine. Think about that. It was written by about 40 different authors over a 1500 year period and they all agree with each other. Do you have any clue just how impossible that is?

Not true. The bible says jews were in the desert for 40 years but there is not a trace of evidence backing that up.

Sure there is. There is a historical record called the Old Testament.

 

[WinterBorn]

The universe does not require a cause. The laws of physics explain the BB quite well. Gravity pulls the matter in, and at a certain point the mass causes an explosion sending the matter outward. The fact that you claim nothing is eternal does not change that.

So you just simply ignore the law of cause and effect? And where did the laws of physics come from? No matter what crazy ideas you guys come up with, you cannot even begin to explain why anything exists. You're clueless, but refuse to admit it.

I have not ignored cause & effect.
There is far more proof in the science we are explaining to you than there is of the existence of God.

WHat proof? Let's see it.

There has been evidence pointing to evolution. That has been discussed (and you were corrected numerous times). What proof do you have that God exists?

WHat proof do you have that He doesn't? You demand proof, yet reject anything I say. I have offered proof of my claimes about the existence of matter and energy. Let's recap. Scientists claim that energy has always existed. How do they know this? They simply assume because man is incapable of creating or destroying it. A baseless assumption since, if God does exist, He is capable of doing so. Scientists have no clue how or why energy exists. This is a fact. So they make up a story to explain it. I also mentioned how nothing physical can be eternal, with no beginning and no end. It defies all science and logic. If something exists, it's because someone caused it to exist. The only one capable of such a feat is God, who exists outside of time and space. Science doesn't have any answers for this. Only fairy tales.

You have claimed to have evidence that God exists. What is that evidence?