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Uneducated people think that THEY are the Center of the Universe. No wonder they reject Religion.
There is no "center" of the universe.
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Uneducated people think that THEY are the Center of the Universe. No wonder they reject Religion.
I'll simplify the whole deal. I lived the church life till I was over 60 years old. I tithed my net pay, taught Sunday school and vacation bible school, coached and reffed the RA boys, mowed and raked old folk's yards, was a member of the Brotherhood...basically was in the church about three days a week. Know what? I never believed it.....not for a minute. This man put my feelings into words much better than I ever could have:
"I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own--a God, in short, who is but a reflection of human fraility. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls harbor such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotism. It is enough for me to contemplate the mystery of conscious life perpetuating itself through all eternity, to reflect upon the marvelous structure of the universe which we can dimly perceive, and to try humbly to comprehend even an infinitesimal part of the intelligence manifested in nature." ~Dr. Albert Einstein~
Einstein aside, do you imagine the constructs of justice, liberty and free will? And if not, why not? And if not based on divine authority, than what authority? By what thesis do we recognize these things and attempt to realize them . . . if at all?
Justice, liberty, free will............who the fuck are you kidding. If I were a religious person I would hide my face from the public. What about the Crusades, the Inquisitions, the witch killings.......what about events like 9/11 and the following wars? What about the tens of millions of innocent women and children who have been murdered, raped, pillaged, starved to death and otherwise caught up in religious conflicts and that doesn't even mention the hundreds of millions who have fled their homes because of them. Justice, Liberty.................for whom?
There are forty-two death-penalty sins spelled out in the Old Testament. Only the uncivilized could have dreamed or conjured up this kind of shit. With a batch of possible acceptable judgements like this to work with kinda makes one wonder how many were tortured and crucified in the public square for it's entertainment value. Gathering firewood on the Sabbath my ass!!!
Murder - Gen. 9:6; Ex. 21:12-14,20,23; Lev. 24:17,21; Num. 35:16-34; Deut. 19.
Failing to circumcise - Gen. 17:14; Ex. 4:24,25.
Eating leavened bread during feast of unleavened bread - Ex.
2:15,19.
Smiting Parents- Ex. 21:15.
Kidnapping - Ex. 21:16; Deut. 24:7.
Cursing Parents - Ex. 21:17; Lev. 20:9.
Negligence with animals that kill - Ex. 21:28-32.
Witchcraft - Ex. 22:18.
Bestiality - Ex. 22:19; Lev. 18:23-29; 20:15,16.
Idolatry - Ex. 22:20.
Making holy anointing oil - Ex. 30:33.
Putting holy anointing oil on strangers - Ex. 30:33.
Making the holy perfume - Ex. 30:38.
Defiling the Sabbath - Ex. 31:14.
Working on the Sabbath - Ex. 35:2.
Eating the flesh of the peace offerings in
uncleanness - Lev. 7:20,21.
Eating the fat of sacrifices - Lev. 7:25.
Killing sacrifices other than at the door of the tabernacle - Lev. 17:1-9.
Eating blood - Lev. 17:10-14.
Incest - Lev. 18:6-29; 20:11-22.
Eating sacrifices at the wrong time - Lev. 19:5-8.
Consecration of children to idols - Lev. 20:1-5.
Spiritualism - Lev. 20:6,27.
Adultery - Lev. 20:10; Deut. 22:22-30.
Sodomy/Homosexuality - Lev. 20:13.
Relationship with a menstruous woman - Lev. 20:18.
Whoredom - Lev. 21:9; Deut. 22:21,22.
Sacrilege - Lev. 22:3.
Refusing to fast on day of atonement - Lev. 23:29.
Working on atonement - Lev. 23:30.
Blasphemy - Lev. 24:11-16.
Failure to keep the Passover - Num. 9:13.
Presumptuous - Num. 15:30,31.
Gathering firewood on the Sabbath - Num. 15:32,36.
Failure to purify self before worship - Num. 19:13,20.
False prophecy - Deut. 13:1-18; 18:20.
Leading men away from God - Deut. 13:6-18.
Stubbornness and rebelliousness - Deut. 21:18-23.
Gluttony - Deut. 21:20-23.
Drunkenness - Deut. 21:20-23.
Backbiting - Deut. 17:2-7.
False dreams and visions - Deut. 13:1-18.
Modern education systems should require a study of world religions, geology and anthropology. Education is something that ancient myths cannot handle. It's the reason modern society is beginning to withdraw from that line of thinking:
Statistics on Religion in America Report -- Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life
This survey finds that the number of people who say they are unaffiliated with any particular faith today (16.1%) is more than double the number who say they were not affiliated with any particular religion as children. Among Americans ages 18-29, one-in-four say they are not currently affiliated with any particular religion.
I'll simplify the whole deal. I lived the church life till I was over 60 years old. I tithed my net pay, taught Sunday school and vacation bible school, coached and reffed the RA boys, mowed and raked old folk's yards, was a member of the Brotherhood...basically was in the church about three days a week. Know what? I never believed it.....not for a minute. This man put my feelings into words much better than I ever could have:
"I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own--a God, in short, who is but a reflection of human fraility. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls harbor such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotism. It is enough for me to contemplate the mystery of conscious life perpetuating itself through all eternity, to reflect upon the marvelous structure of the universe which we can dimly perceive, and to try humbly to comprehend even an infinitesimal part of the intelligence manifested in nature." ~Dr. Albert Einstein~
Einstein aside, do you imagine the constructs of justice, liberty and free will? And if not, why not? And if not based on divine authority, than what authority? By what thesis do we recognize these things and attempt to realize them . . . if at all?
Justice, liberty, free will............who the fuck are you kidding. If I were a religious person I would hide my face from the public. What about the Crusades, the Inquisitions, the witch killings.......what about events like 9/11 and the following wars? What about the tens of millions of innocent women and children who have been murdered, raped, pillaged, starved to death and otherwise caught up in religious conflicts and that doesn't even mention the hundreds of millions who have fled their homes because of them. Justice, Liberty.................for whom?
There are forty-two death-penalty sins spelled out in the Old Testament. Only the uncivilized could have dreamed or conjured up this kind of shit. With a batch of possible acceptable judgements like this to work with kinda makes one wonder how many were tortured and crucified in the public square for it's entertainment value. Gathering firewood on the Sabbath my ass!!!
Murder - Gen. 9:6; Ex. 21:12-14,20,23; Lev. 24:17,21; Num. 35:16-34; Deut. 19.
Failing to circumcise - Gen. 17:14; Ex. 4:24,25.
Eating leavened bread during feast of unleavened bread - Ex.
2:15,19.
Smiting Parents- Ex. 21:15.
Kidnapping - Ex. 21:16; Deut. 24:7.
Cursing Parents - Ex. 21:17; Lev. 20:9.
Negligence with animals that kill - Ex. 21:28-32.
Witchcraft - Ex. 22:18.
Bestiality - Ex. 22:19; Lev. 18:23-29; 20:15,16.
Idolatry - Ex. 22:20.
Making holy anointing oil - Ex. 30:33.
Putting holy anointing oil on strangers - Ex. 30:33.
Making the holy perfume - Ex. 30:38.
Defiling the Sabbath - Ex. 31:14.
Working on the Sabbath - Ex. 35:2.
Eating the flesh of the peace offerings in
uncleanness - Lev. 7:20,21.
Eating the fat of sacrifices - Lev. 7:25.
Killing sacrifices other than at the door of the tabernacle - Lev. 17:1-9.
Eating blood - Lev. 17:10-14.
Incest - Lev. 18:6-29; 20:11-22.
Eating sacrifices at the wrong time - Lev. 19:5-8.
Consecration of children to idols - Lev. 20:1-5.
Spiritualism - Lev. 20:6,27.
Adultery - Lev. 20:10; Deut. 22:22-30.
Sodomy/Homosexuality - Lev. 20:13.
Relationship with a menstruous woman - Lev. 20:18.
Whoredom - Lev. 21:9; Deut. 22:21,22.
Sacrilege - Lev. 22:3.
Refusing to fast on day of atonement - Lev. 23:29.
Working on atonement - Lev. 23:30.
Blasphemy - Lev. 24:11-16.
Failure to keep the Passover - Num. 9:13.
Presumptuous - Num. 15:30,31.
Gathering firewood on the Sabbath - Num. 15:32,36.
Failure to purify self before worship - Num. 19:13,20.
False prophecy - Deut. 13:1-18; 18:20.
Leading men away from God - Deut. 13:6-18.
Stubbornness and rebelliousness - Deut. 21:18-23.
Gluttony - Deut. 21:20-23.
Drunkenness - Deut. 21:20-23.
Backbiting - Deut. 17:2-7.
False dreams and visions - Deut. 13:1-18.
Evolution is a FACT
God is a theory
Evolution is no more fact than Climate Change is man-made.
It's a possibility but not a certainty. Some of the most notable scientists believe man may have been deposited her by Space Aliens. God could have been one for all we know.
I think a far more likely scenario to be Wet Rock + Starshine + Time = Humanity
If Mother Earths Little Bastards have a Father, His name is Time.
If there is a God, His name is Luck, and He has Bad moods as well as Good.
Evolution is no more fact than Climate Change is man-made.
It's a possibility but not a certainty. Some of the most notable scientists believe man may have been deposited her by Space Aliens. God could have been one for all we know.
I think a far more likely scenario to be Wet Rock + Starshine + Time = Humanity
If Mother Earths Little Bastards have a Father, His name is Time.
If there is a God, His name is Luck, and He has Bad moods as well as Good.
I'll buy the "Wet Rock + Starshine + Time = Humanity" scenario, but my belief is that some Supreme Intelligence dictated that the primordial slime and the starlight had the prerequisite properties to suddenly spring to life and evolve as it did.
You're one of those Christians who either can't or chooses not to read:
Matthew 19
21 "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven."
Matthew 5
48 "Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect."
And I am not the rich man he was talking to at the time. Or do you think Christians are likewise supposed to start building Arks because God once commanded Noah to build one?
He also commanded Peter and the other Apostles to throw out their nets to catch fish. You think every Christian is commanded to do that?
What's funny about it is you actually think you are educated.
I have to call you on this one Avatar... the context of what Cammmpbell quoted is clearly a parable used for preaching to the masses and the context of what you quoted was clearly intended to be specific instructions to specific individuals at a specific time in history.
And common knowledge of Christianity shows a concern for the poor, at least on paper.
Uneducated people think that THEY are the Center of the Universe. No wonder they reject Religion.
There is no "center" of the universe.
Modern education systems should require a study of world religions, geology and anthropology. Education is something that ancient myths cannot handle. It's the reason modern society is beginning to withdraw from that line of thinking:
Statistics on Religion in America Report -- Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life
This survey finds that the number of people who say they are unaffiliated with any particular faith today (16.1%) is more than double the number who say they were not affiliated with any particular religion as children. Among Americans ages 18-29, one-in-four say they are not currently affiliated with any particular religion.
All science is theory..........
All ancient, mythical god worship is horse shit. When youngsters attend an accredited university and take the right courses they immediately realize that. The old "I'm a gonna' rise up from the grave, join a ghost floating on a cloud, fly off to paradise and live forever" rendition is short lived. When the present generation dies off I'd say it's within 50 years of being dead. Then it will assume a similar role to Thor, Athena, Zeus and other ancient mythological gods.
All science is theory..........
All ancient, mythical god worship is horse shit. When youngsters attend an accredited university and take the right courses they immediately realize that. The old "I'm a gonna' rise up from the grave, join a ghost floating on a cloud, fly off to paradise and live forever" rendition is short lived. When the present generation dies off I'd say it's within 50 years of being dead. Then it will be looked upon like Thor, Athena, Zeus and other ancient mythological gods.
"God" seems to be sticking around. Religion is utter BS. Religion is for the weak minded in my opinion. I dont completely disregard the whole Creator idea, but I dont believe God. I mean come on? There were many Gods before that one. With pretty much the same 411 on him or her. It was like it was a bunch of Gods rolled into one. Whats the chance of 5 gods (and Im considering jesus as a god in this instance) being born on Dec. 5th? But I ramble..
You wouldn't know education if it bit you on the butt.
BTW The more I learn the more faithful I become. History, sciences, Languages, all denote that there is a God.
His hand is in everything. After all the Glory of God is intelligence and we are commanded to learn of all things.
Could you elaborate?
All science is theory..........
All ancient, mythical god worship is horse shit. When youngsters attend an accredited university and take the right courses they immediately realize that. The old "I'm a gonna' rise up from the grave, join a ghost floating on a cloud, fly off to paradise and live forever" rendition is short lived. When the present generation dies off I'd say it's within 50 years of being dead. Then it will assume a similar role to Thor, Athena, Zeus and other ancient mythological gods.
Guess you'll find out for sure when you croak.
I'll be waiting for you when you get out of purgatory........if you don't end up on the down elevator.
Why all the hate? Why do you care what someone else believes? It's no skin off your ass, what's the deal?
You are so full of shit. have you sold your possessions and given the proceeds to the poor yet?
I am not commanded to. And if I was, I wouldnt have a problem with it. Not really sure why God would command me to sell my goods to give to myself, but I could do it quite easily.
You're one of those Christians who either can't or chooses not to read:
Matthew 19
21 "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven."
Matthew 5
48 "Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect."
Matthew 6
34 "Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof."
Matthew 5
40" If anyone sues you to take away your coat, let him have your cloak also"
Matthew 5
44 "Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you"
Matthew 7
12 "Do to others whatever you would like them to do to you. This is the essence of all that is taught in the law and the prophets."
You're one of those Christians who either can't or chooses not to read:
Matthew 19
21 "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven."
Matthew 5
48 "Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect."
And I am not the rich man he was talking to at the time. Or do you think Christians are likewise supposed to start building Arks because God once commanded Noah to build one?
He also commanded Peter and the other Apostles to throw out their nets to catch fish. You think every Christian is commanded to do that?
What's funny about it is you actually think you are educated.
I had most of the new testament memorized and could quote it chapter and verse 55 years ago when I was in my early 20's. I find that most folks settle in on something they believe which in most cases has absolutely nothing to do with what's in the bible. So thrill me some more. I've heard it all.
Dear Cammmpbell: Just because people don't affiliate with one particular religion
doesn't mean the message or the religion is less relevant.
You can study, use and apply the knowledge in math/science WITHOUT being
a mathematician or scientist officially. These things can be used and applied broadly.
Same with the truth and wisdom in the various world religions.
The same way the laws of gravity and physics are universal and can be used by anyone,
the process of forgiveness and natural healing that Christians teach are also universal.
Modern education systems should require a study of world religions, geology and anthropology. Education is something that ancient myths cannot handle. It's the reason modern society is beginning to withdraw from that line of thinking:
Statistics on Religion in America Report -- Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life
This survey finds that the number of people who say they are unaffiliated with any particular faith today (16.1%) is more than double the number who say they were not affiliated with any particular religion as children. Among Americans ages 18-29, one-in-four say they are not currently affiliated with any particular religion.
I'll simplify the whole deal. I lived the church life till I was over 60 years old. I tithed my net pay, taught Sunday school and vacation bible school, coached and reffed the RA boys, mowed and raked old folk's yards, was a member of the Brotherhood...basically was in the church about three days a week. Know what? I never believed it.....not for a minute. This man put my feelings into words much better than I ever could have:
"I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own--a God, in short, who is but a reflection of human fraility. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls harbor such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotism. It is enough for me to contemplate the mystery of conscious life perpetuating itself through all eternity, to reflect upon the marvelous structure of the universe which we can dimly perceive, and to try humbly to comprehend even an infinitesimal part of the intelligence manifested in nature." ~Dr. Albert Einstein~
You're one of those Christians who either can't or chooses not to read:
Matthew 19
21 "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven."
Matthew 5
48 "Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect."
And I am not the rich man he was talking to at the time. Or do you think Christians are likewise supposed to start building Arks because God once commanded Noah to build one?
He also commanded Peter and the other Apostles to throw out their nets to catch fish. You think every Christian is commanded to do that?
What's funny about it is you actually think you are educated.
I have to call you on this one Avatar... the context of what Cammmpbell quoted is clearly a parable used for preaching to the masses and the context of what you quoted was clearly intended to be specific instructions to specific individuals at a specific time in history.
And common knowledge of Christianity shows a concern for the poor, at least on paper.
All science is theory..........
All ancient, mythical god worship is horse shit. When youngsters attend an accredited university and take the right courses they immediately realize that. The old "I'm a gonna' rise up from the grave, join a ghost floating on a cloud, fly off to paradise and live forever" rendition is short lived. When the present generation dies off I'd say it's within 50 years of being dead. Then it will assume a similar role to Thor, Athena, Zeus and other ancient mythological gods.
I honestly have to tell you that the fact that you think religion is "horse shit" actually makes me believe in it just a little bit more than I did.
All ancient, mythical god worship is horse shit. When youngsters attend an accredited university and take the right courses they immediately realize that. The old "I'm a gonna' rise up from the grave, join a ghost floating on a cloud, fly off to paradise and live forever" rendition is short lived. When the present generation dies off I'd say it's within 50 years of being dead. Then it will assume a similar role to Thor, Athena, Zeus and other ancient mythological gods.
I honestly have to tell you that the fact that you think religion is "horse shit" actually makes me believe in it just a little bit more than I did.
The naive, the brainwashed and the mentally deficient believe that 2000 year old fairy tale.....which one are you?