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1. Today, in my email, a 'trivia' question:
What is the only Best Picture Oscar winner without any female speaking roles?


They gave possible answers:
Ben Hur
Midnight Cowboy
All The King's Men
Lawrence of Arabia

Got it right? Me, too.


2. " Lawrence of Arabia is a 1962 British epic historical drama film based on the life of T. E. Lawrence. Despite running nearly four hours long, Lawrence of Arabia has no female characters with speaking roles. The closest we get are a few women in the droves of extras in some of the film’s biggest scenes, but none are focused on beyond being part of the rabble. Lawrence of Arabia was nominated for ten Oscars at the 35th Academy Awards in 1963; it won seven, including Best Picture. In the years since, it has been recognized as one of the greatest and most influential films in the history of cinema."
Trivia.com


And made me wonder if it was so due to the culture (religion) being pictured.


3. I recall this, from Chesler's experience:

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4. Chesler is an expert on all things Muslim....as she has lived the experiences: "...she met Ali, a Westernized Muslim man from Afghanistan, the son of devout Muslim parents. They married in a civil ceremony in 1961 in New York State and settled in Kabul, in the large, polygamous household of her father-in-law. ... on arrival in Afghanistan.... authorities forced her to surrender her U.S. passport, and she ended up a virtual prisoner in her in-laws' house. Chesler describes this as how foreign wives were treated.[5] This phenomenon has been documented by others."
Ibid.


Chesler is one more recovering Liberal who was strong enough to have learned from her experiences in life.


5. In Afghanistan, she was silenced by the Muslim culture, and subject to 'purda'...
"Purdah,
... practice that was inaugurated by Muslims ... involves the seclusion of women from public observation by means of concealing clothing (including the veil) and by the use of high-walled enclosures, screens, and curtains within the home."
purdah | Islamic custom

Purdah is solitary confinement.....for life.


 
Scenes in Lawrence of Arabia were primarily in the desert or Officers Club in Cairo. You wouldn’t expect many women to be around.

Plus Lawrence was gay, why would he want a bunch of women blabbing about?
 
Purdah is solitary confinement.....for life.
Incorrect ... :cool:

Purdah is the loving protection of women by isolation.


Isolation:
Synonyms


Just as I said.


6. Purdah, the Muslim practice of solitary confinement of women, as practiced in American universities:

" The latest speaker to be “disinvited” from an American college is prominent feminist scholar Phyllis Chesler, whose participation in a University of Arkansas, Fayetteville, symposium on honor killing earlier this month was withdrawn days before the event. Behind the cancellation lies a sordid tale involving faculty machinations, threats from a dean, and at least one shattered window. Together, they offer a case study on the intellectual and moral corruption of academe.

Chesler is an emerita professor of psychology and women’s studies at the City University of New York whose pioneering scholarship exposed the horrors of honor killing, forced marriages, and other brutalities women suffer in Muslim lands and beyond. She was invited to deliver a lunchtime lecture on “Worldwide Trends in Honor Killings”.....

.... opponents also resorted to violence to silence an outspoken opponent of violence against women. "
Academic Malfeasance: U. Of Arkansas Disinvites Phyllis Chesler



The two doctrines that demand submission: Liberalism and Islam.
 
"Some scholars argue that the purdah was initially designed to protect women from being harassed, but later these practices became a way to justify efforts to subjugate women and limit their mobility and freedom.[6] "
 
The two doctrines that demand submission: Liberalism and Islam.
Difference is: Islam requires submission to God.
Liberalism demands strict obedience to a man made ideology. ... :cool:


Allah is not the god of the Judeo-Christian faith.


“I have been commanded to wage war against mankind till they testify that there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah, …and if they do it, their blood and property are guaranteed protection on my behalf ….”

Know whose quote that is?

Muhammad bin Abdullah (570-632)

It is written, incidentally, in Leviticus, "Love your neighbor as yourself, I am God." I, God, tell you to be decent to other people.
 
"Some scholars argue that the purdah was initially designed to protect women from being harassed, but later these practices became a way to justify efforts to subjugate women and limit their mobility and freedom."
Definition by western so called Islamic scholars. ... :cool:


“Well-meaning Americans would do well to cease interpreting age-old Muslim doctrines—from jihad to zakat—according to their Western epistemology and instead rely on the standard rulings of mainstream Islam, as articulated by its authoritative schools of jurisprudence. That is, after all, what Muslims do.” Muslims Withhold "Charity" from Non-Muslims during COVID-19 - Raymond Ibrahim
 
“Well-meaning Americans would do well to cease interpreting age-old Muslim doctrines—from jihad to zakat—according to their Western epistemology and instead rely on the standard rulings of mainstream Islam, as articulated by its authoritative schools of jurisprudence. That is, after all, what Muslims do.” Muslims Withhold "Charity" from Non-Muslims during COVID-19 - Raymond Ibrahim
And?? ... :dunno:


If it makes you feel better to make up your own reformed views, that's fine.

But they are not the views of the Q'ran, nor of authentic Islam.

One can only hope that the entire faith alters itself in that direction....or it remains a threat to civilization.
 
If it makes you feel better to make up your own reformed views, that's fine. But they are not the views of the Q'ran, nor of authentic Islam. One can only hope that the entire faith alters itself in that direction....or it remains a threat to civilization.
The west is always calling for Islam to reform itself like Christianity did over the last couple of centuries.
We have seen how well that has turned out. Many churches have closed do to lack of attendance, and now you have gay and lesbian priests and preachers, and homo marriage ceremonies performed inside the churches.
Islam is doing just fine and does't need or require a reformation. .. :cool:
 
If it makes you feel better to make up your own reformed views, that's fine. But they are not the views of the Q'ran, nor of authentic Islam. One can only hope that the entire faith alters itself in that direction....or it remains a threat to civilization.
The west is always calling for Islam to reform itself like Christianity did over the last couple of centuries.
We have seen how well that has turned out. Many churches have closed do to lack of attendance, and now you have gay and lesbian priests and preachers, and homo marriage ceremonies performed inside the churches.
Islam is doing just fine and does't need or require a reformation. .. :cool:


Slaughter of innocents is the price you are establishing for avoiding reforming the faith?

No you're not.
 
Slaughter of innocents is the price you are establishing for avoiding reforming the faith?
I have no idea what you are talking about?
Like I said before, Islam is perfect as is, and doesn't require any sort of reform. ... :cool:

Mohamed Merah, the youngest of the family's sons, killed seven people – including three Jewish children shot at point-blank range – and maimed six others in the southern French towns of Montauban and Toulouse between March 11 and March 19, 2012. He was himself killed by security forces three days later."
In France, a Deadly Mix of Antisemitism, Islamism, and Family Violence


"19 Injured In Australia As SUV Mows Down Pedestrians In 'Deliberate Act'
An SUV plowed through a group of pedestrians during rush hour Thursday in the city of Melbourne, injuring at least 19 people, in what police believe was a "deliberate act."

The driver, an Australian of Afghan descent,...."
19 Injured In Australia As SUV Mows Down Pedestrians In 'Deliberate Act'



"Florida: Teen converts to Islam, stabs friend to death, injures two others, says he did it because of Islam
He said he committed the crime because of Islam. Will non-Muslim Palm Beach Gardens authorities rush to deny that and to reassure the public that Islam is peaceful and has nothing whatsoever to do with violence? Will we hear about how the local mosque has asked for extra police protection in view of an anticipated “backlash”? Will we be lectured about how “Islamophobia” leads Muslims to become angry and violent? Or will there be an honest examination of the texts and teachings of Islam that incite Muslims to commit acts of violence against unbelievers? I’m betting on all but the last one of those eventualities to happen."
Florida: Teen converts to Islam, stabs friend to death, injures two others, says he did it because of Islam


"Three dead and six seriously wounded as Strasbourg gunman remains at liberty
Gunman has been identified as Cherif Chekatt, who had been identified as a danger to security...."
Three dead and six seriously wounded as Strasbourg gunman remains at liberty


"Dutch police hunt for Turkish man after three shot dead in tram

* Three dead, nine wounded in incident on tram in Utrecht

* Dutch police say seeking 37-year-old Turkish man

* Authorities say shooting appears to be terrorist attack

* Security beefed up at airports, schools, mosques (Adds number of deaths, injuries, newspaper, Rutte statement)

Dutch police hunt for Turkish man after three shot dead in tram


  • "In 2017, a Swedish police report, "Utsatta områden 2017" ("Vulnerable Areas 2017") showed that there are 61 such areas -- also known as no-go zones -- in Sweden. They encompass 200 criminal networks, consisting of an estimated 5,000 criminals. Most of the inhabitants are non-Western immigrants and their descendants.

  • In March, the Swedish National Forensic Centre estimated that since 2012, the number of shootings classified as murder or attempted murder had increased by almost 100 percent.

  • "Sweden is at war and it is the politicians who are responsible. Five nights in a row, cars have been set on fire in the university town of Lund. Such insane acts have occurred on hundreds of occasions in various places in Sweden over the past fifteen years. From 1955 to 1985, not a single car was ignited in Malmö, Gothenburg, Stockholm or Lund.... None of these criminals is starving or lacking in access to clean water. They have a roof over their heads and they have been offered free schooling.... They do not live in dilapidated houses.... It is called upbringing and this is missing for thousands of girls and boys in Swedish homes today." — Björn Ranelid, Swedish author, Expressen, July 5, 2019.

  • The police wrote in the 2017 report that global ethnic conflicts are replicated in the vulnerable areas:

    "... the [Swedish] judiciary and the rest of [Swedish] society do not understand these conflicts or have answers to how they can be solved. The police therefore need to have a better knowledge of the world and understanding of events in order to interpret what is happening in the areas. The presence of returnees, sympathizers for terrorist groups such as the Islamic State, al Qaeda and al-Shabaab, and representatives of Salafist-oriented mosques, contribute to tensions between these groups and other residents in the vulnerable areas. Since the summer of 2014, when a Caliphate was proclaimed in Syria and Iraq, sectarian contradictions have increased, especially between Sunnis, Shiites, Levantine Christians, and nationalists of Kurdish origin". (p 13)" "Sweden is at War"


"Stranger Pushes Woman, Son Off Platform Into Train's Path
Boy, 8, was killed; his mother rolled to safety

(
NEWSER) – A man standing among passengers at a train station in Germany on Monday pushed a woman and her 8-year-old son onto the tracks, in the path of a high-speed train. The boy was hit and killed instantly; his mother survived. Witnesses at the main Frankfurt station ran after the attacker, tackled him, and held him until he could be arrested, the Guardian reports. Police said the suspect tried to push another person onto the tracks who was able to fight him off. The boy's mother avoided being hit by the train by rolling into a space between platforms, police said. She was being treated Monday for shock.

Frankfurt police said the suspect is a 40-year-old man from Eritrea. They've found no connection between the man and the victims, and said they don't know of any possible motive. Germany's interior minister called the crime a "horrific act" but cautioned not to jump to conclusions before the investigation is complete, per Reuters. "The background to this heinous crime is still unclear," he said. Germany had a similar killing earlier this month, when a woman was pushed in front of a train in the town of Voerde; police said the suspect in that case didn't know the victim, either. Officials have warned passengers to stay away from the edge of the platform in train stations, and to watch for people who appear to be distressed. (Read more train tracks stories.)
Stranger Pushes Woman, Son Off Platform Into Train's Path



Man who was carrying a knife arrested in Wynyard, Sydney's CBD | 7NEWS
Man who was carrying a knife arrested in Wynyard, Sydney's CBD | 7NEWS


"WATCH: Man shouting ‘Allahu Akbar’ stabs multiple people in Sydney CBD"
WATCH: Man shouting ‘Allahu Akbar’ stabs multiple people in Sydney CBD



"Bible translator butchered by Muslims, wife’s arm hacked off

...Angus Abraham Fung was cut to death with a machete, while his wife, Eveline, had her arm hacked off.

They just went into the home, pulled them out and slaughtered them.”

“I don’t know what prompted the attack,” Tembon added. “They just came in and killed people at the home.”

Fung, who was in his 60s and worked for years with the Aghem Bible translation project, translating the New Testament into the Aghem language,...

It’s suspected Muslim Fulani herders who live outside of the town are responsible for the attack. According to Tembon, “The Fulani are Muslim..."
Bible translator butchered by Muslims, wife’s arm hacked off


"Terror in London: Stabbing Attack, Shots Fired on London Bridge"
Terror in London: Stabbing Attack, Shots Fired on London Bridge - Geller Report News


"Islamic militants kill 13 Christians, wound three, kidnap four seminary students

The attacks come after the Humanitarian Aid Relief Trust reported that more than 1,000 Christians in Nigeria were slaughtered by Islamic militants last year and more than 6,000 believers were killed in the region in the last four years.

Open Doors reported Nigeria as one of the most violent countries for Christians in the world, accounting for 90% of Christian deaths in the 2019 World Watch List reporting period."
Islamic militants kill 13 Christians, wound three, kidnap four seminary students · Caldron Pool


ALLAHU AKBAR!” Yet another knife-jihad attack by a Muslim invader posing as an asylum seeker in France
‘ALLAHU AKBAR!” Yet another knife-jihad attack by a Muslim invader posing as an asylum seeker in France

APRIL 4, 2020 BY BARENAKEDISLAM21 COMMENTS

Two dead and seven injured in knife rampage in Southeastern France by Muslim attacker shouting the standard Islamic holy war cry “Allahu Akbar.”
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Daily Mail (h/t Mano) A Sudanese Muslim asylum seeker was in custody in France today after stabbing two people to death and wounding seven others in
 

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